This is what is wrong with the fitness industry
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I know exactly what you mean. You would not believe the reactions I am getting when I tell people I want to start weight lifting...
I lol'd. I decided to start weight training a few weeks ago and when I told my friends that I want to start doing lifts, all of them were like "But you're gonna look like a dude?!"0 -
Like so?IDk.
If they made an entire line of pink kettle balls that went heavy (and I was into kettle balls) I'd probably buy them because I like the color pink.
I agree I like pink...I would buy pink plates for lifting, I want pink gloves with orange lacy bits and pink and orange shoes...
so what it's pink.
ETA I don't want to live in a gender neutral society ...I am not a feminist either, I am just a woman who likes pink, I like purple and blue too..and when I had my son...he never wore pink as a baby..if he wants to now fine...he preferred trucks to dolls didn't have much to do with me.
Am I reading this wrong, or do those pink plates have only 20lbs printed on them?0 -
No but you can paint it. I can't put the URL because it has d*icks in it but they sell a pink iron one, at 8kg.They make it bigger because they use a lower density material to make it more aesthetic.
You can't make pink iron.0 -
just admit that this has everything to do with the fact that you are (OP) butt hurt that you can't but pink kettbells, and just a little bit less with the evil fitness industry controlling your workout based on what color they make what amount of weight.So the problem with the fitness industry is that D*i*c*k*s doesn't sell heavy enough pink kettlebells and models aren't muscular enough?
Maybe the problem with consumers is that people are too particular about their kettlebell color and the muscle mass of random models.
I'm (OP) fine now that someone showed me I can buy pink weight plates
ok then all is well lol0 -
just admit that this has everything to do with the fact that you are (OP) butt hurt that you can't but pink kettbells, and just a little bit less with the evil fitness industry controlling your workout based on what color they make what amount of weight.So the problem with the fitness industry is that D*i*c*k*s doesn't sell heavy enough pink kettlebells and models aren't muscular enough?
Maybe the problem with consumers is that people are too particular about their kettlebell color and the muscle mass of random models.
Oh, but you totally can.
https://sites.google.com/site/kauaferreiralimafas/cff-pink-44-lb-20-kg-russian-kettlebell-chalk-block-great-for-cross-training-and-mma-training
You can even get them skull shaped.
http://www.ironskullfitness.com/70-POUND-SKULLBELL-THE-DEUCE-CS70.htm
And that was just through a cursory search (although I admit that I had the skull shaped ones bookmarked). Granted, mine are all black, but if one wanted them in pink, you could get them.
The problem the OP is trying to point out is that the fitness industry is forever telling women that if you lift anything "too heavy" you'll get "bulky" and "look like a man" and we all know that it isn't true. If you have ever looked inside a women's fitness magazine, you get pictures of fitness models holding tiny pink 2 lb dumbbells accompanying articles about how to get "toned" without "getting bulky".0 -
If a woman is more likely to use a pink one because it matches her nail polish, I have no problem with that. If an out of shape woman sees a skinny woman on the kettlebell box and wants to be more like the skinny woman, I'm ok with that as well.
Are we trying to kid ourselves into thinking these things don't matter to most woman? The fitness industry is trying to sell products - when women start painting their nails "dumbbell gray" instead of pink and start buying magazines with muscled woman on the cover instead of anorexics, I'm sure the advertisers will respond accordingly.0 -
Yes, on average women are a bit weaker but not THAT much...
Men's raw bench press world record: 710 pounds
Women's raw bench press world record: 430 pounds
So...yes...men are in fact that much stronger.
We are not talking about comparing the strongest man on earth to the strongest woman on earth at a lift that men are exceptionally stronger at than women. Not to mention the need to factor weight into those kinds of numbers, I'm guessing there is less difference between relative squat numbers.
However, if we are comparing untrained males to untrained females in exercises that aren't challenging the absolute limit that an individual can lift, I would have to seriously doubt that the strongest female novice is weaker than the weakest male novice.
Squats and deadlifts are a different story, but if we're talking about bench....I had to train for at least 6-8 months to bench press what most untrained men can bench press, and I'm pretty serious about my training and fairly strong for a woman.0 -
As a man and I'm only speaking for myself. If I walk in a gym and the only 45s available are pink, purple, or any other color. I would lift them sh*ts till I couldn't any more. I don't care what color the weights are. As long as I can lift heavy who cares.0
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Like so?
Am I reading this wrong, or do those pink plates have only 20lbs printed on them?
Well, I don't think I could handle an 85# overhead lunge (bum shoulder) but at least with plates you can always just put more on lol.0 -
The problem the OP is trying to point out is that the fitness industry is forever telling women that if you lift anything "too heavy" you'll get "bulky" and "look like a man" and we all know that it isn't true. If you have ever looked inside a women's fitness magazine, you get pictures of fitness models holding tiny pink 2 lb dumbbells accompanying articles about how to get "toned" without "getting bulky".
i guess you can blame the articles for influencing the consumers, but they are only going to put out the products that sell.
But, if its really the case that magazines are pushing that sort of workout (haven't picked one up since highschool) then they are not very good sources of information.
I guess you can say the industry is evil, but the truth is they are only as evil as people are stupid0 -
bah, nevermind0
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Am I reading this wrong, or do those pink plates have only 20lbs printed on them?
They are called 'bumper plates.' They are used for overhead type power lifts as shown so that you pick them up from the same spot as a bar with a full 45 lb plate and put them down without damaging the floor or the weights. Also useful for doing deadlifts or snatches.
They make them in all sorts of different colors so you can easily tell the difference between them. My gym has blue, green, red and black ones.0 -
If a woman is more likely to use a pink one because it matches her nail polish, I have no problem with that. If an out of shape woman sees a skinny woman on the kettlebell box and wants to be more like the skinny woman, I'm ok with that as well.
Are we trying to kid ourselves into thinking these things don't matter to most woman? The fitness industry is trying to sell products - when women start painting their nails "dumbbell gray" instead of pink and start buying magazines with muscled woman on the cover instead of anorexics, I'm sure the advertisers will respond accordingly.
I don't wear nail polish so pink weights wouldn't match anything. :flowerforyou:
I just like the color pink not because I want to match my nail polish and pearly lipstick to everything but because it's my favorite color.0 -
20 kg, standard 45 lb plates.
Like so?IDk.
If they made an entire line of pink kettle balls that went heavy (and I was into kettle balls) I'd probably buy them because I like the color pink.
I agree I like pink...I would buy pink plates for lifting, I want pink gloves with orange lacy bits and pink and orange shoes...
so what it's pink.
ETA I don't want to live in a gender neutral society ...I am not a feminist either, I am just a woman who likes pink, I like purple and blue too..and when I had my son...he never wore pink as a baby..if he wants to now fine...he preferred trucks to dolls didn't have much to do with me.
Am I reading this wrong, or do those pink plates have only 20lbs printed on them?0 -
It cracks me up when people blame certain industries, manufacturers and marketing/advertising for the availability or lack of availability of certain products. Pissed off that there aren't enough pink weights that are above 10lbs? Then start getting large numbers of women in the gym who lift some serious weight. There is no conspiracy to "hold women back" in the fitness industry. There aren't manufactures out there saying "what can we make that people don't want?". Advertising teams aren't saying, "Hmmm, let's create an ad that will humiliate and infuriate our target market.". It's simple, the majority of women out there are buying the lightweight cutesy pink crap, gimmick gear and apparel that is wrapped in a packaging that displays some unrealistic woman having an absolute blast with her pink 2lb kettle bell, matching sport bra in some swanky home gym. If it bothers you, there are two options. One, start your own company producing what YOU think the people want, packaging it with YOU on the box working your buns off and advertise with YOUR own commercial. Hey, maybe you’ll make a million, maybe you’ll go bankrupt in a week. Option two is start slapping the fools who buy this crap and educate them. </rant>0
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IDk.
If they made an entire line of pink kettle balls that went heavy (and I was into kettle balls) I'd probably buy them because I like the color pink.
I have a pink vinyl-dipped kettlebell (25), and am also a pink addict. I don't buy ridiculous impractical things, but if I have the choice of pink for something I would buy anyway? YES YES YES.0 -
Option two is start slapping the fools who buy this crap and educate them. </rant>
I'm just gonna stick with this option. Less hassle. Step 1: Post pictures of the ridiculousness on the internet and start a discussion about it.... 0 -
I have a pink vinyl-dipped kettlebell (25), and am also a pink addict. I don't buy ridiculous impractical things, but if I have the choice of pink for something I would buy anyway? YES YES YES.
I play on a coed hockey team. I'm the one with the pink laces in my skates lol.0 -
The material each kettle ball is constructed of may be another attractive feature for women. The ''man'' kettleball is metal, while the ''female'' kettleball has a rubber handle. For the sake of avoiding callouses, I'd go with the pink one.
The model to me seems fine. Muscle mass is NOT indicative of someone's abilities to lift weights. I have a slender build, but I'm strong as sh^t.0 -
I have a green one that size. I WISH it was pink.IDk.
If they made an entire line of pink kettle balls that went heavy (and I was into kettle balls) I'd probably buy them because I like the color pink.
I have a pink vinyl-dipped kettlebell (25), and am also a pink addict. I don't buy ridiculous impractical things, but if I have the choice of pink for something I would buy anyway? YES YES YES.0 -
The problem the OP is trying to point out is that the fitness industry is forever telling women that if you lift anything "too heavy" you'll get "bulky" and "look like a man" and we all know that it isn't true. If you have ever looked inside a women's fitness magazine, you get pictures of fitness models holding tiny pink 2 lb dumbbells accompanying articles about how to get "toned" without "getting bulky".
i guess you can blame the articles for influencing the consumers, but they are only going to put out the products that sell.
But, if its really the case that magazines are pushing that sort of workout (haven't picked one up since highschool) then they are not very good sources of information.
I guess you can say the industry is evil, but the truth is they are only as evil as people are stupid
Not disagreeing with you at all. Just pointing out what my take on OP's beef was. I agree that if there is going to be a change, it needs to be driven by the women who are financially supporting the industry. And those women's fitness magazines make my brain hurt with all the broscience and spot-reduction misinformation.0 -
Like so?IDk.
If they made an entire line of pink kettle balls that went heavy (and I was into kettle balls) I'd probably buy them because I like the color pink.
I agree I like pink...I would buy pink plates for lifting, I want pink gloves with orange lacy bits and pink and orange shoes...
so what it's pink.
ETA I don't want to live in a gender neutral society ...I am not a feminist either, I am just a woman who likes pink, I like purple and blue too..and when I had my son...he never wore pink as a baby..if he wants to now fine...he preferred trucks to dolls didn't have much to do with me.
OMG!!! LOVE THIS!!!! I want!!!
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Option two is start slapping the fools who buy this crap and educate them. </rant>
I'm just gonna stick with this option. Less hassle. Step 1: Post pictures of the ridiculousness on the internet and start a discussion about it....
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So the problem with the fitness industry is that part of their marketing strategy is based on marketing to different genders. Got it.0
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As for the kiddie ads, check out GoldieBlox.com! I wish they had those when I was a child, so much more fun than a Barbie doll!
Just looked up the Goldieblox stuff...ummm, awesome!!! Why did I not know about this last month? I would have got one of those sets and a t-shirt for Christmas instead of some of the other CRAP we ended up with!0 -
Factoring out weight is only a legitimate data manipulation if men and women average out to similar weights/sizes.
Men's raw bench press world record: 710 poundsYes, on average women are a bit weaker but not THAT much...
Women's raw bench press world record: 430 pounds
So...yes...men are in fact that much stronger.Not to mention the need to factor weight into those kinds of numbers...
Which they don't.
So it's not a legitimate numeric manipulation.
A typical male novice can do "a few" pushups. A typical female novice can do none.However, if we are comparing untrained males to untrained females in exercises that aren't challenging the absolute limit that an individual can lift, I would have to seriously doubt that the strongest female novice is weaker than the weakest male novice.
Typical male is much stronger than a typical female, not just at the extremes, but at all levels of equivalent fitness.
All this aside, I'm still baffled by a thread *****ing about the fitness industry trying sell weightlifting equipment to women. Somehow I had the strange idea that was actually a *good* thing...silly me...
It IS a good thing.0 -
The fitness industry has long known that females will spend more money than males on personal self improvement. This is actually how the word "TONED" came about. Rather than saying "weight lifting" (which was associated with building huge muscles with males) "toning" sounded much softer and more feminine and didn't reek of muscularity. This help to create many "toning" programs out there catering to females and yes it's made the fitness industry BILLIONS.
Unfortunately lots of females out there are under the impression that female muscles can grow at the same rate as male muscles and that's why there is so much confusion on how to train. Good thing is that sites like this help to dispell the myths of muscle gain (especially on a calorie deficit) and how hard it actually is to put on pounds of muscle with moderate training.
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When I met with the trainer at my gym last week, he wanted to know what I had done previously. After I explained what NROLFW was, he said he didn't know women were supposed to train differently from men. I like that guy! He never used the word "tone", either.0 -
Feminists don't have anything against pink as a general rule, nor do they want a gender neutral society. :happy: They want a society where people are free to be as they choose and marketers don't shove the idea down my daughters throat that in order to be ok, she has to be pretty and sweet and soft and want to dress like a princess...or force a boy to feel that unless he's built like the hulk and squashes his feelings he's not manly. It's cool that your son digs toy cars and trucks, it just so happens that my daughter does too. As a feminist, I'm totally cool with that. I'm also totally cool with it if he decided he wanted an easy bake oven and to decorate cakes like the guy on "Cake Boss." Or maybe he could do both? No skin off my nose either way. My daughter likes trucks, and tools and blocks...and her miniature kitchen apron and oven mitts. So, no worries. While you are not a feminist, it doesn't sound like you and I are actually all that different in our views towards gender and child rearing.IDk.
If they made an entire line of pink kettle balls that went heavy (and I was into kettle balls) I'd probably buy them because I like the color pink.
I agree I like pink...I would buy pink plates for lifting, I want pink gloves with orange lacy bits and pink and orange shoes...
so what it's pink.
ETA I don't want to live in a gender neutral society ...I am not a feminist either, I am just a woman who likes pink, I like purple and blue too..and when I had my son...he never wore pink as a baby..if he wants to now fine...he preferred trucks to dolls didn't have much to do with me.
( I hope this didn't sound like I was attacking you. My intent was more to defend feminism and point out that the average feminists agenda really isn't terribly radical.)0 -
I am taking a co-ed boxing class and got these:
I want the guys to think I'm just a soft girl before I smack them in the head with a hook.0 -
Am I reading this wrong, or do those pink plates have only 20lbs printed on them?
They are called 'bumper plates.' They are used for overhead type power lifts as shown so that you pick them up from the same spot as a bar with a full 45 lb plate and put them down without damaging the floor or the weights. Also useful for doing deadlifts or snatches.
They make them in all sorts of different colors so you can easily tell the difference between them. My gym has blue, green, red and black ones.
Ah, ok, thanks. It has been 20 yrs since I have been in a gym. They didn't have those back then. Thought maybe they were 20kg, as they looked the same size as 45s.0
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