This is what is wrong with the fitness industry
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See my earlier comment re: former heavyweight boxing champion Pinklon Thomas.
they are breaking their social conditioning and will be frowned upon by society for picking small girly weights. duh.
What happens if a man chooses to buy the pink one?
I just can't believe nobody gives a damn about this. It is essentially saying that men's absolute minimum is women's absolute maximum. It's infuriating! The problem isn't the colour, its the mentality behind the entire thing.0 -
I just can't believe nobody gives a damn about this. It is essentially saying that men's absolute minimum is women's absolute maximum. It's infuriating! The problem isn't the colour, its the mentality behind the entire thing.
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
for what its worth, i would go for the metal ones because i don't like pink. but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.0 -
Who wants to tell former heavyweight boxing champion Pinklon Thomas that his trademark pink boxing trunks were obviously made for a girl because of their color?
Anyone?
looks like the fact that they were his trademark speaks clearly enough. Otherwise nobody would give a damn what colour he wore.0 -
I just can't believe nobody gives a damn about this. It is essentially saying that men's absolute minimum is women's absolute maximum. It's infuriating! The problem isn't the colour, its the mentality behind the entire thing.
This was the heaviest of the "pretty" kettlebells clearly being marketed to women, and the lightest of the one's being marketed neutrally (or to men for that matter). Yes, they are the same exact weight.
It's called marketing.0 -
It's called marketing.but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.
i know its called marketing.0 -
Ah, so anyone who has a different opinion than yours is wrong. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.I just can't believe nobody gives a damn about this. It is essentially saying that men's absolute minimum is women's absolute maximum. It's infuriating! The problem isn't the colour, its the mentality behind the entire thing.
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.0 -
I just can't believe nobody gives a damn about this. It is essentially saying that men's absolute minimum is women's absolute maximum. It's infuriating! The problem isn't the colour, its the mentality behind the entire thing.
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
for what its worth, i would go for the metal ones because i don't like pink. but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.
Those marketing the kettlebells, first and foremost, have intentions of selling and creating a profit, not to make sure your feelings are not hurt.0 -
This is what's wrong with all advertising. There's a lot of criticism for the way toys are marketed as well.
Someone needs to come up with the Science Princess or something, complete with pink microscope and test tubes. I expect advertising execs to fail our children and society by turning most of our girls into fashion divas, but would some clever script writer with Disney connections please step up and save us? Thanks.
They have tons of pink test tubes and science stuff at Hobby Lobby.
You're welcome.
Thanks! Now I know what my niece is getting for her birthday. But a hit Disney movie could set off a proper princess scientist craze. I can dream, right?0 -
I just can't believe nobody gives a damn about this. It is essentially saying that men's absolute minimum is women's absolute maximum. It's infuriating! The problem isn't the colour, its the mentality behind the entire thing.
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
for what its worth, i would go for the metal ones because i don't like pink. but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.
LOL Well fellow person, pleas feel free to buy the metal ones, boldy making your point and holding your ever vigilant head high the whole time, while the rest of the world callously doesn't notice because they're too busy giving a damn about things that matter. And if you disagree with me then you probably hate all men. (See, I can make ridiculous assertions about people who disagree with me without knowing anything about them as well.)0 -
Pink is such a cliché. I actually think that's the most insulting part. My kettlebell (from Sport's Authority) is neon green. I avoid pink in running clothes too.0
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I so love those pink plates. I would be way more enthusiastic about lifting if I had pink plates. lol. I do have pink and purple dumb bells. I also love girly colored work out clothes. Its all about what makes you happy.
I do agree that the girls arms in the advertisement are extremely skinny.0 -
I am taking a co-ed boxing class and got these:
I want the guys to think I'm just a soft girl before I smack them in the head with a hook.
I have the same gloves!!!! I also have pink laces in my workboots and pink work gloves!0 -
I so love those pink plates. I would be way more enthusiastic about lifting if I had pink plates. lol. I do have pink and purple dumb bells. I also love girly colored work out clothes. Its all about what makes you happy.
I do agree that the girls arms in the advertisement are extremely skinny.
Squatting 315 with pink plates, that would be awesome.0 -
Ah, so anyone who has a different opinion than yours is wrong. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.I just can't believe nobody gives a damn about this. It is essentially saying that men's absolute minimum is women's absolute maximum. It's infuriating! The problem isn't the colour, its the mentality behind the entire thing.
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
Don't gaslight me bro.0 -
I can't believe that so many women are admitting to wanting the pink fitness equipment. Don't you realize that you're perpetuating the stereotype?!
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Go to the store's web site and look at the selection of kettlebells. Both types shown in this photo come in all colors and sizes and the plastic-looking ones are bigger because they're sand-filled.
I just can't believe nobody gives a damn about this. It is essentially saying that men's absolute minimum is women's absolute maximum. It's infuriating! The problem isn't the colour, its the mentality behind the entire thing.
This was the heaviest of the "pretty" kettlebells clearly being marketed to women, and the lightest of the one's being marketed neutrally (or to men for that matter). Yes, they are the same exact weight.
The fact that this photo shows a big pink one and a small black one implies nothing, if you ask me.0 -
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
for what its worth, i would go for the metal ones because i don't like pink. but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.
LOL Well fellow person, pleas feel free to buy the metal ones, boldy making your point and holding your ever vigilant head high the whole time, while the rest of the world callously doesn't notice because they're too busy giving a damn about things that matter. And if you disagree with me then you probably hate all men. (See, I can make ridiculous assertions about people who disagree with me without knowing anything about them as well.)
So... choosing metal over pink is me making a statement against the world? I'm not allowed to choose the apparently 'neutral' ones?0 -
Could you clarify why choosing the pink one is a de facto negative, sexist statement when choosing the other isn't a de facto statement with undertones based in gender?
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
for what its worth, i would go for the metal ones because i don't like pink. but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.
LOL Well fellow person, pleas feel free to buy the metal ones, boldy making your point and holding your ever vigilant head high the whole time, while the rest of the world callously doesn't notice because they're too busy giving a damn about things that matter. And if you disagree with me then you probably hate all men. (See, I can make ridiculous assertions about people who disagree with me without knowing anything about them as well.)
So... choosing metal over pink is me making a statement against the world? I'm not allowed to choose the apparently 'neutral' ones?0 -
this reminds of a conversation I had with one of the girls in the office today. She was complaining that she was doing all this "ab work" but her stomach was not getting flatter. i asked do you count calories, do you do any compounds? To which she replied no.
Her workout routine was basically 10 minutes treadmill….some dumbbell step ups, dumbbell squats, tricep ext, and like 20 minutes abs to finish. I told her "you should really do a workout where you are hitting like chest/arms mon; legs wens; back/shoulders friday or an upper/lower split if you want more leg work…then she said but I don't want to be all "big" like a man….to which I had to explain that she does not have enough testosterone to build muscle….LOL it is attitudes like this that drive the 10# kettle ball industry and what not…
I did give her some ideas for an updated routine and emails them to her…I told her to make sure she does deadlifts and squats..we shall see….0 -
The situation in the OP doesn't bother me, I will just get the iron one.
However what bugs me is inferior supplements marketed at women. I don't buy them, but it pisses me off that they even exist0 -
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
for what its worth, i would go for the metal ones because i don't like pink. but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.
LOL Well fellow person, pleas feel free to buy the metal ones, boldy making your point and holding your ever vigilant head high the whole time, while the rest of the world callously doesn't notice because they're too busy giving a damn about things that matter. And if you disagree with me then you probably hate all men. (See, I can make ridiculous assertions about people who disagree with me without knowing anything about them as well.)
So... choosing metal over pink is me making a statement against the world? I'm not allowed to choose the apparently 'neutral' ones?
LOL I'm not wasting a facepalm gif here. Where did I (or anyone else) say you weren't allowed to do anything? Let me guess, "It was implied". This is what I'm talking about...taking an isolated situation, adding your own context to it, and creating dragons where there are only windmills.0 -
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
for what its worth, i would go for the metal ones because i don't like pink. but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.
LOL Well fellow person, pleas feel free to buy the metal ones, boldy making your point and holding your ever vigilant head high the whole time, while the rest of the world callously doesn't notice because they're too busy giving a damn about things that matter. And if you disagree with me then you probably hate all men. (See, I can make ridiculous assertions about people who disagree with me without knowing anything about them as well.)
So... choosing metal over pink is me making a statement against the world? I'm not allowed to choose the apparently 'neutral' ones?
"DO WHATEVER THE F>CK YOU WANNATO DO" ~HodgeTwins0 -
The situation in the OP doesn't bother me, I will just get the iron one.
However what bugs me is inferior supplements marketed at women. I don't buy them, but it pisses me off that they even exist
This is absolutely a valid issue! The prevalence of gurus taking advantage of misinformation to exploit a certain area of the market sucks!0 -
IDGAF what color they are, nor do I care that the pink one is designed to have a softer look to it and is larger than the other more compact 10 lb kettlebell.
Silly argument is silly.
I simply will choose the product that fits my goals. If I need two kettlebells to do moves, I'll buy the smaller ones since they're compact. If I need one kettlebell to do moves, I'll buy the larger one that has more room for me to hold it with two hands.0 -
Your post was overwhelmingly condescending because I said fwiw I like metal things more than pink. Like I said to someone else, don't gaslight me bro.
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
for what its worth, i would go for the metal ones because i don't like pink. but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.
LOL Well fellow person, pleas feel free to buy the metal ones, boldy making your point and holding your ever vigilant head high the whole time, while the rest of the world callously doesn't notice because they're too busy giving a damn about things that matter. And if you disagree with me then you probably hate all men. (See, I can make ridiculous assertions about people who disagree with me without knowing anything about them as well.)
So... choosing metal over pink is me making a statement against the world? I'm not allowed to choose the apparently 'neutral' ones?
LOL I'm not wasting a facepalm gif here. Where did I (or anyone else) say you weren't allowed to do anything? Let me guess, "It was implied". This is what I'm talking about...taking an isolated situation, adding your own context to it, and creating dragons where there are only windmills.0 -
this reminds of a conversation I had with one of the girls in the office today. She was complaining that she was doing all this "ab work" but her stomach was not getting flatter. i asked do you count calories, do you do any compounds? To which she replied no.
Her workout routine was basically 10 minutes treadmill….some dumbbell step ups, dumbbell squats, tricep ext, and like 20 minutes abs to finish. I told her "you should really do a workout where you are hitting like chest/arms mon; legs wens; back/shoulders friday or an upper/lower split if you want more leg work…then she said but I don't want to be all "big" like a man….to which I had to explain that she does not have enough testosterone to build muscle….LOL it is attitudes like this that drive the 10# kettle ball industry and what not…
I did give her some ideas for an updated routine and emails them to her…I told her to make sure she does deadlifts and squats..we shall see….
But if she's not eating at a deficit, she doesn't need a man's amount of testosterone to build muscle. Women build more slowly than men (about half as slowly), but it's not like we can't build muscle at all.
I'm not saying her routine sounds good for it or anything, but dumbbells can get pretty heavy. I hope you at least asked how much weight she had on them. Dumbbells rock. Nothing wrong with dumbbells (up until certain weights, naturally).0 -
Could you clarify why choosing the pink one is a de facto negative, sexist statement when choosing the other isn't a de facto statement with undertones based in gender?
I didn't
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
for what its worth, i would go for the metal ones because i don't like pink. but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.
LOL Well fellow person, pleas feel free to buy the metal ones, boldy making your point and holding your ever vigilant head high the whole time, while the rest of the world callously doesn't notice because they're too busy giving a damn about things that matter. And if you disagree with me then you probably hate all men. (See, I can make ridiculous assertions about people who disagree with me without knowing anything about them as well.)
So... choosing metal over pink is me making a statement against the world? I'm not allowed to choose the apparently 'neutral' ones?
It's not. Should be able to choose whatever colour you like. Male or female. I said from the start that my issue is with the attitude behind the marketing0 -
Your post was overwhelmingly condescending because I said fwiw I like metal things more than pink. Like I said to someone else, don't gaslight me bro.
Except the gray one doesn't say anywhere on it that it's for men. They're both 10 pounds, and one is pink. That's all the picture shows. The only sexism apparent in this picture is one that is created by bored people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.
it is heavily implied. us women don't like nasty dark metals when we can have pretty pink things (again, social conditioning). if you can't see sexism in that picture, you probably also think feminism is a dirty word.
for what its worth, i would go for the metal ones because i don't like pink. but its the attitude behind the marketing that i have an issue with.
LOL Well fellow person, pleas feel free to buy the metal ones, boldy making your point and holding your ever vigilant head high the whole time, while the rest of the world callously doesn't notice because they're too busy giving a damn about things that matter. And if you disagree with me then you probably hate all men. (See, I can make ridiculous assertions about people who disagree with me without knowing anything about them as well.)
So... choosing metal over pink is me making a statement against the world? I'm not allowed to choose the apparently 'neutral' ones?
LOL I'm not wasting a facepalm gif here. Where did I (or anyone else) say you weren't allowed to do anything? Let me guess, "It was implied". This is what I'm talking about...taking an isolated situation, adding your own context to it, and creating dragons where there are only windmills.
My post was condescending because every opinion you've shared is rooted in assumtion, including this one. You presume to know what people are really saying without ever actually asking. Fact-based, rational discussion can't happen when every word is presumed to be couched in implication and subtext. Don't gaslight me sis.0 -
My post was condescending because every opinion you've shared is rooted in assumtion, including this one. You presume to know what people are really saying without ever actually asking. Fact-based, rational discussion can't happen when every word is presumed to be couched in implication and subtext. Don't gaslight me sis.
Fact-based, rational discussion? I put quite a bit of time into my first post (linked to examples etc) and these are the kind of responses I've had:
“…people who have a pathological need to get bent out of shape over nothing at all.”
“Ah, so anyone who has a different opinion than yours is wrong. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.”
“pleas feel free to buy the metal ones, boldy making your point and holding your ever vigilant head high the whole time”
“LOL I'm not wasting a facepalm gif here … creating dragons where there are only windmills.”
All of the above are wildly inapproriate in a civil, rational, fact-based discussion. By saying this sort of thing, you guys are manipulating the situation to make me seem unreasonable and hysterical. Hence, gaslighting.0 -
edited to remove my whole post because this ridiculous discussion is never going to go anywhere....0
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