Biggest Loser Finale...what is going on??
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Also felt Bobby was too small to for a man. The man in third place looked the healthiest out of the 3 for sure.0
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She's only skin and bones now.
I remember reading that one of the contestants tried to keep at her end weight, but it took so much effort she realised it wasn't healthy and put on 30 pounds or so to be at a weight she felt was healthy and she could maintain without sacrificing time with family.
Can't tell you which contestant it was, but I am sure it is a common theme among them.
EDIT: And she looked fantastic in this photo
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Biggest loser Australia- one of the contestants stated that the trainer has them on a diet of 1000 calories, no dairy and expected to burn minimum 600 in the gym- thats 400 calories consumed before you take into account BMR... I weigh a third of what most of these guys weigh, I'm eating 2000 calories most days, earning about 800 a day from exercise! no wonder the ones in finale look sick0
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I am reminded that there *is* a $250,000 prize. If I were to work that hard to get healthy, and then at the VERY end have a possibility of winning $250,000 ... I hate to say it, but I'd temporarily stop eating food too. (And then commence shortly thereafter!)0
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Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs! They need to have a rule that you can't win if you are under the recommended BMI for your height... if they need to change the rules elsewhere to make it more fair, since some people have an advantage because they have more to lose, then so be it, but that was not cool. They should not encourage people to win by being anorexic because they have to achieve a certain percentage of weight loss that is ridiculous and unhealthy for them. Anorexia is NOT cool! I usually like TBL, but that was not good at all. She was appallingly skinny and needs to gain 20 lbs stat! Hopefully she does so now that she won! Jillian's Oh my God, Oh my God, did not seem like a good kind of shock.
While she does not have the body type that I want, I think we should be careful in what we say. I am under my recommended BMI and on the border of healthy and underweight, according to the charts, and you certainly can't say that I am "all skin and bones". "Appallingly" skinny to you, is what some people are naturally. They eat just as much as I do, exercise less, and are completely healthy. I'm sure I would get bashed if I called somebody appallingly fat. Lets be careful with what we say, since I am positive there are healthy, active, well fed women on here that have her exact body type.0 -
Biggest loser Australia- one of the contestants stated that the trainer has them on a diet of 1000 calories, no dairy and expected to burn minimum 600 in the gym- thats 400 calories consumed before you take into account BMR... I weigh a third of what most of these guys weigh, I'm eating 2000 calories most days, earning about 800 a day from exercise! no wonder the ones in finale look sick
I just watched "half ton killer" on TLC and they had her on a 1000 calorie diet for months. Considering her weight, her BMR is probably more than that. The heavier you are, the more you can cut calories....or so I read.
I haven't watched the show, but have watched celebrity fit club in the past. Didn't the doctor on there have them on a veggie and fruit only diet for the first 2 weeks, at about 800 calories a day?0 -
Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs! They need to have a rule that you can't win if you are under the recommended BMI for your height... if they need to change the rules elsewhere to make it more fair, since some people have an advantage because they have more to lose, then so be it, but that was not cool. They should not encourage people to win by being anorexic because they have to achieve a certain percentage of weight loss that is ridiculous and unhealthy for them. Anorexia is NOT cool! I usually like TBL, but that was not good at all. She was appallingly skinny and needs to gain 20 lbs stat! Hopefully she does so now that she won! Jillian's Oh my God, Oh my God, did not seem like a good kind of shock.
While she does not have the body type that I want, I think we should be careful in what we say. I am under my recommended BMI and on the border of healthy and underweight, according to the charts, and you certainly can't say that I am "all skin and bones". "Appallingly" skinny to you, is what some people are naturally. They eat just as much as I do, exercise less, and are completely healthy. I'm sure I would get bashed if I called somebody appallingly fat. Lets be careful with what we say, since I am positive there are healthy, active, well fed women on here that have her exact body type.
The difference is, you still have muscles. She doesn't, anymore!0 -
I thought Rachel looked her best during makeover week and right before she went home. Now, she looks GROSS and well, OLD! She's skin and bones! I agree that Bobby looked too thin too. I love this show, but this was a very sad ending. The look on the trainers faces, and the other contestants said it all!
I hope they adjust the rules in the future to account for muscle gained -- Rachel has NONE!!0 -
I think Bob and Jillian's (and Tonya's!) reactions say it all:
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I think Bob and Jillian's (and Tonya's!) reactions say it all:
I have no opinion on this Rachel girl or how she looks (Not my business) but the look on these people's faces!!
I died.0 -
What the?! When did Bob go "punk" style?0 -
Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs! They need to have a rule that you can't win if you are under the recommended BMI for your height... if they need to change the rules elsewhere to make it more fair, since some people have an advantage because they have more to lose, then so be it, but that was not cool. They should not encourage people to win by being anorexic because they have to achieve a certain percentage of weight loss that is ridiculous and unhealthy for them. Anorexia is NOT cool! I usually like TBL, but that was not good at all. She was appallingly skinny and needs to gain 20 lbs stat! Hopefully she does so now that she won! Jillian's Oh my God, Oh my God, did not seem like a good kind of shock.
While she does not have the body type that I want, I think we should be careful in what we say. I am under my recommended BMI and on the border of healthy and underweight, according to the charts, and you certainly can't say that I am "all skin and bones". "Appallingly" skinny to you, is what some people are naturally. They eat just as much as I do, exercise less, and are completely healthy. I'm sure I would get bashed if I called somebody appallingly fat. Lets be careful with what we say, since I am positive there are healthy, active, well fed women on here that have her exact body type.
The difference is, you still have muscles. She doesn't, anymore!
So its ok to have a low body fat percentage as long as you have muscles? Maybe she doesn't want an athletic build. It said she was at 19% body fat. I guarantee you that jillian michaels has a lower BF percentage. I have a lower body fat percentage. What makes her unhealthy and jillian not? She wanted a more slender build. I have seen competitions with women who have a lot of muscles, and 13% body fat. THAT is unhealthy for a woman. They don't even menstruate any more. Yet we celebrate them and call them awesome and bash this woman? While you may not find it attractive or desirable, it doesn't give you the right to bash her. Plenty of men and women call me gross and ugly for having muscles. I don't see how it is any of their business unless they are my husband.0 -
Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs! They need to have a rule that you can't win if you are under the recommended BMI for your height... if they need to change the rules elsewhere to make it more fair, since some people have an advantage because they have more to lose, then so be it, but that was not cool. They should not encourage people to win by being anorexic because they have to achieve a certain percentage of weight loss that is ridiculous and unhealthy for them. Anorexia is NOT cool! I usually like TBL, but that was not good at all. She was appallingly skinny and needs to gain 20 lbs stat! Hopefully she does so now that she won! Jillian's Oh my God, Oh my God, did not seem like a good kind of shock.
While she does not have the body type that I want, I think we should be careful in what we say. I am under my recommended BMI and on the border of healthy and underweight, according to the charts, and you certainly can't say that I am "all skin and bones". "Appallingly" skinny to you, is what some people are naturally. They eat just as much as I do, exercise less, and are completely healthy. I'm sure I would get bashed if I called somebody appallingly fat. Lets be careful with what we say, since I am positive there are healthy, active, well fed women on here that have her exact body type.
You beat me to it. Pardon me but I'm a young lady who floats comfortably between 104 and 107lbs. And I think I look pretty darn good, thank you kindly. My bmi says I'm underweight, you assume I'm skeletal and yet every doctor I've had has given me the thumbs up health-wise. Quit making such rash generalizations and coming up with arbitrary "acceptable" weight ranges for women other than yourself.
Please and thank you:)0 -
I think Bob and Jillian's (and Tonya's!) reactions say it all:
The one in the back cracked me up!0 -
Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs! They need to have a rule that you can't win if you are under the recommended BMI for your height... if they need to change the rules elsewhere to make it more fair, since some people have an advantage because they have more to lose, then so be it, but that was not cool. They should not encourage people to win by being anorexic because they have to achieve a certain percentage of weight loss that is ridiculous and unhealthy for them. Anorexia is NOT cool! I usually like TBL, but that was not good at all. She was appallingly skinny and needs to gain 20 lbs stat! Hopefully she does so now that she won! Jillian's Oh my God, Oh my God, did not seem like a good kind of shock.
While she does not have the body type that I want, I think we should be careful in what we say. I am under my recommended BMI and on the border of healthy and underweight, according to the charts, and you certainly can't say that I am "all skin and bones". "Appallingly" skinny to you, is what some people are naturally. They eat just as much as I do, exercise less, and are completely healthy. I'm sure I would get bashed if I called somebody appallingly fat. Lets be careful with what we say, since I am positive there are healthy, active, well fed women on here that have her exact body type.
You beat me to it. Pardon me but I'm a young lady who floats comfortably between 104 and 107lbs. And I think I look pretty darn good, thank you kindly. My bmi says I'm underweight, you assume I'm skeletal and yet every doctor I've had has given me the thumbs up health-wise. Quit making such rash generalizations and coming up with arbitrary "acceptable" weight ranges for women other than yourself.
Please and thank you:)
You look great! I'm sorry that many find it perfectly acceptable to comment about your weight....you don't have to say it, I already know that they do. Just today I was called too thin AND too muscular. WTF?0 -
Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs! They need to have a rule that you can't win if you are under the recommended BMI for your height... if they need to change the rules elsewhere to make it more fair, since some people have an advantage because they have more to lose, then so be it, but that was not cool. They should not encourage people to win by being anorexic because they have to achieve a certain percentage of weight loss that is ridiculous and unhealthy for them. Anorexia is NOT cool! I usually like TBL, but that was not good at all. She was appallingly skinny and needs to gain 20 lbs stat! Hopefully she does so now that she won! Jillian's Oh my God, Oh my God, did not seem like a good kind of shock.
While she does not have the body type that I want, I think we should be careful in what we say. I am under my recommended BMI and on the border of healthy and underweight, according to the charts, and you certainly can't say that I am "all skin and bones". "Appallingly" skinny to you, is what some people are naturally. They eat just as much as I do, exercise less, and are completely healthy. I'm sure I would get bashed if I called somebody appallingly fat. Lets be careful with what we say, since I am positive there are healthy, active, well fed women on here that have her exact body type.
You beat me to it. Pardon me but I'm a young lady who floats comfortably between 104 and 107lbs. And I think I look pretty darn good, thank you kindly. My bmi says I'm underweight, you assume I'm skeletal and yet every doctor I've had has given me the thumbs up health-wise. Quit making such rash generalizations and coming up with arbitrary "acceptable" weight ranges for women other than yourself.
Please and thank you:)
No negativity intended to either or any of you. :flowerforyou: But I was also not one of the people who posted those comments quoted above (though I did say I felt Rachel was down to mostly bone and tendons, and I felt it wasn't a good thing).
Another thing to keep in mind is that in her case, the change to a thinner body was made so quickly that it placed a lot of stress on her. There is no way it didn't.
Btw, my own BMI is only 20.7 currently (though I'm working on increasing it)...so I am definitely *not* bashing thin people...I *am* one.
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Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs! They need to have a rule that you can't win if you are under the recommended BMI for your height... if they need to change the rules elsewhere to make it more fair, since some people have an advantage because they have more to lose, then so be it, but that was not cool. They should not encourage people to win by being anorexic because they have to achieve a certain percentage of weight loss that is ridiculous and unhealthy for them. Anorexia is NOT cool! I usually like TBL, but that was not good at all. She was appallingly skinny and needs to gain 20 lbs stat! Hopefully she does so now that she won! Jillian's Oh my God, Oh my God, did not seem like a good kind of shock.
While she does not have the body type that I want, I think we should be careful in what we say. I am under my recommended BMI and on the border of healthy and underweight, according to the charts, and you certainly can't say that I am "all skin and bones". "Appallingly" skinny to you, is what some people are naturally. They eat just as much as I do, exercise less, and are completely healthy. I'm sure I would get bashed if I called somebody appallingly fat. Lets be careful with what we say, since I am positive there are healthy, active, well fed women on here that have her exact body type.
You beat me to it. Pardon me but I'm a young lady who floats comfortably between 104 and 107lbs. And I think I look pretty darn good, thank you kindly. My bmi says I'm underweight, you assume I'm skeletal and yet every doctor I've had has given me the thumbs up health-wise. Quit making such rash generalizations and coming up with arbitrary "acceptable" weight ranges for women other than yourself.
Please and thank you:)
I definitely agree with not blanket-generalizing - that 104-107lb range looks great with you!
On Rachel from TBL.. 105 is definitely too little for her. I figured she would be "optimal" somewhere within the 120s.
I have a friend who is about 5'2" and has an extremely petite frame - I've observed her weigh in at about 93lbs on the gym scale - but she actually looks great at that weight as well. She could stand to put on a bit more lean mass, but she neither looks nor is anorexic/bulimic.0 -
I am the one that started this topic and it was not set up to bash anyone thin or fat. I do think that this episode is going to raise the concern that a lot of people have had with the show as far as health. Do I think that someone can be underweight and be healthy? YES! Do I think that some can be overweight and healthy? YES! But beyond that, there gets to a point where unhealthy is unhealthy no matter how you tip the scale. On the skinny side, yes Nicole Richie is thin, but she is a slender healthy thin. What we saw tonight on Biggest Loser was a different level, at least what I saw. If we are too afraid to say it when we see it, then we are just as big as a problem than the people who call others "fat" or "twiggy". Its not about that...it is about being HEALTHY.0
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Normal weight for her height would be 117lbs to about 127lbs. That 12lbs less makes her look a little "willowy".Rachel looks too thin @105 lbs!
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I am the one that started this topic and it was not set up to bash anyone thin or fat. I do think that this episode is going to raise the concern that a lot of people have had with the show as far as health. Do I think that someone can be underweight and be healthy? YES! Do I think that some can be overweight and healthy? YES! But beyond that, there gets to a point where unhealthy is unhealthy no matter how you tip the scale. On the skinny side, yes Nicole Richie is thin, but she is a slender healthy thin. What we saw tonight on Biggest Loser was a different level, at least what I saw. If we are too afraid to say it when we see it, then we are just as big as a problem than the people who call others "fat" or "twiggy". Its not about that...it is about being HEALTHY.
What makes you think that she is unhealthy? It said she was at 19% bodyfat. If that is unhealthy, then I guess I have one foot in the grave, and jillian 6 feet under. Yet I'm willing to bet that Rachel could probably outrun the majority of people making the negative comments about her.
Yes, she is very thin. But she is far from anorexic. And judging by the amount of negative comments on here and the internet in general, we have a huge perception problem in this country when it comes to what "healthy" looks like.0 -
What makes you think that she is unhealthy? It said she was at 19% bodyfat. If that is unhealthy, then I guess I have one foot in the grave, and jillian 6 feet under. Yet I'm willing to bet that Rachel could probably outrun the majority of people making the negative comments about her.
Yes, she is very thin. But she is far from anorexic. And judging by the amount of negative comments on here and the internet in general, we have a huge perception problem in this country when it comes to what "healthy" looks like.
She's not at 19% bodyfat here, she was at 19% in the footage of the semi-final show presented last week but was filmed well before that. The amount of muscle and fat she lost from the time they filmed the portion of the show when it was declared she was at 19% bodyfat, to tonight's footage, is absolutely staggering. She is unhealthy right now.0 -
What makes you think that she is unhealthy? It said she was at 19% bodyfat. If that is unhealthy, then I guess I have one foot in the grave, and jillian 6 feet under. Yet I'm willing to bet that Rachel could probably outrun the majority of people making the negative comments about her.
Yes, she is very thin. But she is far from anorexic. And judging by the amount of negative comments on here and the internet in general, we have a huge perception problem in this country when it comes to what "healthy" looks like.
She's not at 19% bodyfat here, she was at 19% in the footage of the semi-final show presented last week but was filmed well before that. The amount of muscle and fat she lost from the time they filmed the portion of the show when it was declared she was at 19% bodyfat, to tonight's footage, is absolutely staggering. She is unhealthy right now.
She doesn't look unhealthy to me. Very thin? Yes. Dangerously thin and unhealthy? No.
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I am the one that started this topic and it was not set up to bash anyone thin or fat. I do think that this episode is going to raise the concern that a lot of people have had with the show as far as health. Do I think that someone can be underweight and be healthy? YES! Do I think that some can be overweight and healthy? YES! But beyond that, there gets to a point where unhealthy is unhealthy no matter how you tip the scale. On the skinny side, yes Nicole Richie is thin, but she is a slender healthy thin. What we saw tonight on Biggest Loser was a different level, at least what I saw. If we are too afraid to say it when we see it, then we are just as big as a problem than the people who call others "fat" or "twiggy". Its not about that...it is about being HEALTHY.
What makes you think that she is unhealthy? It said she was at 19% bodyfat. If that is unhealthy, then I guess I have one foot in the grave, and jillian 6 feet under. Yet I'm willing to bet that Rachel could probably outrun the majority of people making the negative comments about her.
Yes, she is very thin. But she is far from anorexic. And judging by the amount of negative comments on here and the internet in general, we have a huge perception problem in this country when it comes to what "healthy" looks like.
I believe Rachel was at 19% bf on the previous episode when she weighed in at 150 (the triathlon epi filmed 3 months ago). She was literally skin and bones tonight. It's not quite as obvious in the before/after pic posted earlier....but her absolute *frailty* was astonishing when the other contestants and Alison hugged her. She look like a light draft could blow her over like it was a gale force wind. It didn't look like shehad lost ssome muscle tone...it looked like she had lost nearly ALL her muscle. No way could she do a triathlon today...she wouldn't even have the strength to complete the swim. I have my doubts that she would even have the strength to tread water. I am seriously concerned for her health (both mental and physical), because I really identified with her on the show.0 -
Oh wow, I just pulled it up on youtube...this show should be cancelled! Rachel looks sick! Several of them looks sick and the trainers know it!0
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I agree and I loved her!!!!0
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What makes you think that she is unhealthy? It said she was at 19% bodyfat. If that is unhealthy, then I guess I have one foot in the grave, and jillian 6 feet under. Yet I'm willing to bet that Rachel could probably outrun the majority of people making the negative comments about her.
Yes, she is very thin. But she is far from anorexic. And judging by the amount of negative comments on here and the internet in general, we have a huge perception problem in this country when it comes to what "healthy" looks like.
She's not at 19% bodyfat here, she was at 19% in the footage of the semi-final show presented last week but was filmed well before that. The amount of muscle and fat she lost from the time they filmed the portion of the show when it was declared she was at 19% bodyfat, to tonight's footage, is absolutely staggering. She is unhealthy right now.
She doesn't look unhealthy to me. Very thin? Yes. Dangerously thin and unhealthy? No.
Imho, it's not her current *state* that's the potentially dangerous part. It's that she got there so...fast. This appears to be the fastest fat/LBM loss on the show, ever. It doesn't set a healthy precedent.0 -
I am the one that started this topic and it was not set up to bash anyone thin or fat. I do think that this episode is going to raise the concern that a lot of people have had with the show as far as health. Do I think that someone can be underweight and be healthy? YES! Do I think that some can be overweight and healthy? YES! But beyond that, there gets to a point where unhealthy is unhealthy no matter how you tip the scale. On the skinny side, yes Nicole Richie is thin, but she is a slender healthy thin. What we saw tonight on Biggest Loser was a different level, at least what I saw. If we are too afraid to say it when we see it, then we are just as big as a problem than the people who call others "fat" or "twiggy". Its not about that...it is about being HEALTHY.
What makes you think that she is unhealthy? It said she was at 19% bodyfat. If that is unhealthy, then I guess I have one foot in the grave, and jillian 6 feet under. Yet I'm willing to bet that Rachel could probably outrun the majority of people making the negative comments about her.
Yes, she is very thin. But she is far from anorexic. And judging by the amount of negative comments on here and the internet in general, we have a huge perception problem in this country when it comes to what "healthy" looks like.
I believe Rachel was at 19% bf on the previous episode when she weighed in at 150 (the triathlon epi filmed 3 months ago). She was literally skin and bones tonight. It's not quite as obvious in the before/after pic posted earlier....but her absolute *frailty* was astonishing when the other contestants and Alison hugged her. She look like a light draft could blow her over like it was a gale force wind. It didn't look like shehad lost ssome muscle tone...it looked like she had lost nearly ALL her muscle. No way could she do a triathlon today...she wouldn't even have the strength to complete the swim. I have my doubts that she would even have the strength to tread water. I am seriously concerned for her health (both mental and physical), because I really identified with her on the show.
There is no way she was 5'4" and 150, with only 19% bodyfat. Unless she was a body builder, which she obviously is not.0 -
Okay, I'm trying SO HARD to watch this show, but a lot of the badly written script is making me laugh
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought she was actually too skinny now and appeared unhealthy.0
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What makes you think that she is unhealthy? It said she was at 19% bodyfat. If that is unhealthy, then I guess I have one foot in the grave, and jillian 6 feet under. Yet I'm willing to bet that Rachel could probably outrun the majority of people making the negative comments about her.
Yes, she is very thin. But she is far from anorexic. And judging by the amount of negative comments on here and the internet in general, we have a huge perception problem in this country when it comes to what "healthy" looks like.
She's not at 19% bodyfat here, she was at 19% in the footage of the semi-final show presented last week but was filmed well before that. The amount of muscle and fat she lost from the time they filmed the portion of the show when it was declared she was at 19% bodyfat, to tonight's footage, is absolutely staggering. She is unhealthy right now.
She doesn't look unhealthy to me. Very thin? Yes. Dangerously thin and unhealthy? No.
Imho, it's not her current *state* that's the potentially dangerous part. It's that she got there so...fast. This appears to be the fastest fat/LBM loss on the show, ever. It doesn't set a healthy precedent.
Losing weight too fast is one thing. But that is not what people are saying on here. They are saying she is sickly, skin and bones, and anorexic. And it makes me wonder if they have ever seen somebody who is actually anorexic. Its a sad day for humanity when she is considered anorexic.0
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