A Calorie is NOT just a Calorie

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  • Cortelli
    Cortelli Posts: 1,369 Member
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  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
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    Not a GIF s are creat equal. :smile:
  • ChrisM8971
    ChrisM8971 Posts: 1,067 Member
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    Yes but they don't all deliver the same end hit.

    Ok I cannot post the study but am sure that I read that the differences are so small as to make no noticeable difference when counting calories for weight loss.
  • MireyGal76
    MireyGal76 Posts: 7,334 Member
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  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
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    I remember that episode.
  • DamePiglet
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  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
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    Yes but they don't all deliver the same end hit.

    Ok I cannot post the study but am sure that I read that the differences are so small as to make no noticeable difference when counting calories for weight loss.

    Fats 98%
    Animal based proteins 90 - 95%

    Some carbs (probably twinkles) less than 80%

    Yeah not much difference!!!!
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
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    It matters where your calories come from for a variety of reasons.

    How can it if they are all exactly the same?

    Because there are properties to foods that exist outside of energy value.
  • Cortelli
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  • silken555
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    Differences in diet induced thermogensis are represented on the calories-out side of the equation. Isocaloric foods across different macronutrients would have identical calories but you would expend a different amount of calories digesting them.

    this is like word porn.

    :heart: sidesteel!

    *breaths om deeply* I love the smell of smart in the evening...:)
  • HappyStack
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    No I was questioning the fact a comment was made that it doesn't matter where you get your calories from - be it a Twinkie or something else.

    Before disputing this I wanted to clarify the statement meant the energy was used by the body in the same way.

    I think you need to be more specific on context for that question or statement to be answered correctly.

    For the most part your body, like honey badger, don't care.

    It works based on a sufficient unit of measurement per mass. In this case grams per kilogram. Twinkie diet will allow you to lose weight, provided you hit a consistent calorie deficit, and the body will efficiently use the calories provided by a diet consisting of just Twinkies.

    Whether it's particularly healthful to subsist on Twinkies alone is debatable. How much protein is in a Twinkie? that'd be the only macro of concern, I think. Micros would be a bigger concern, but the SAD (or should we call it the standard Western diet?) - even the new & improved healthier SAD! - is deficient in a lot of micros anyway...

    Ultimately a variation in diet is only necessary for three things... interest in food, a good variety of micronutrients, and manipulating your intake of macronutrients. Food energy is a separate entity.

    When I'm shooting for a calorie surplus, I like to eat a handful of jellybeans for my excess carbs. True story.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,404 MFP Moderator
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    Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

    Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

    absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.
  • ChrisM8971
    ChrisM8971 Posts: 1,067 Member
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    Yes but they don't all deliver the same end hit.

    Ok I cannot post the study but am sure that I read that the differences are so small as to make no noticeable difference when counting calories for weight loss.

    Fats 98%
    Animal based proteins 90 - 95%

    Some carbs (probably twinkles) less than 80%

    Yeah not much difference!!!!

    Always open to new ideas so would love to read the studies if you could message me or post them and a list of what foods give what levels
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
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    well we might as well just keep talking so the thread rolls again. even though we all basically agree

    You have created a monster!
  • DamePiglet
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  • MireyGal76
    MireyGal76 Posts: 7,334 Member
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    well we might as well just keep talking so the thread rolls again. even though we all basically agree

    You have created a monster!

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    This one?
  • MireyGal76
    MireyGal76 Posts: 7,334 Member
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    cuz... well...
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  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
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    well we might as well just keep talking so the thread rolls again. even though we all basically agree

    You have created a monster!

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    This one?

    No.
    That's a carb gif.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
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    Yes but they don't all deliver the same end hit.

    Ok I cannot post the study but am sure that I read that the differences are so small as to make no noticeable difference when counting calories for weight loss.

    Fats 98%
    Animal based proteins 90 - 95%

    Some carbs (probably twinkles) less than 80%

    Yeah not much difference!!!!

    Always open to new ideas so would love to read the studies if you could message me or post them and a list of what foods give what levels

    There are. Few sources but a well explained one is http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-energy-balance-equation.html

    Worth a read.

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