How do you keep your food intake "Clean"?

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  • Natmarie73
    Natmarie73 Posts: 287 Member
    "Clean" means something different to everyone. I've been eating my own version of 'clean' for a month now, purely for nutrition reasons, not to lose more weight, and I honestly feel amazing. I eat whole foods, organic, lean proteins, etc. As little processed food as possible. I think what I go for though is 'basic eating'; I don't add a tablespoon of sauce here or fifty different seasonings and extra ingredients. If I'm having chicken and veggies for dinner, then that's exactly what I'm having.

    This doesn't mean I feel guilty about the occasional burger and beer, though!

    This. Everyone has a different opinion about what clean eating is, and that's fine. To me "clean" eating means basically eating unprocessed, chemical free food. I take it to the extreme where 95% of my diet consists of single-ingredient food ie absolutely nothing manufactured or added. If it comes out of a packet, tin or box, I don't eat it unless it is 100% organic and only has one ingredient. If it comes from a fast food restaurant, I definately don't eat it. I make as much of my food as I can at home only buy organic veggies, fruit and meat/eggs.

    I don't eat this way to lose weight as I've never been fat in my life - I simply treat my body like an expensive sports car. You wouldn't put low octane dirty fuel into a Ferrari would you? So why fuel your body with low octane, dirty food? That said, I do enjoy eating out in fine dining restaurants and enjoy the occasional bottle of wine, cocktail and sweet treat when I feel like it and I don't care if it fits my macros or not :)
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member


    except when it is delivered from angels in the form of fruit..then it is fine….but added sugar…that stuff will make you go on a one month bender and you will end up broke living in ditch surrounded by a pile of your own vomit….

    Wow. I just thought you burn the energy from it quickly and will get hungry again soon. I didn't know all that. Where'd you hear that? You'd think that kind of info would be shared here.

    run a search of "sugar" and read through some of threads…
  • Natmarie73
    Natmarie73 Posts: 287 Member
    I try and follow as close to Paleo nutrition as possible = try and eat as little or no processed food as possible. Paleo = if a caveman was alive how or what would he eat. No grocery store bag food etc. I too have had great success with this down 40 pounds and 25 inches. I also watch my carb intake, but with working out we still need 150g minimum or so porbably more for a guy. Good Luck on continued sucess!!! You got this! Read the websit "Mark's Daily Apple".
    Lol, cavemen drank untreated water and sucked marrow out of bones.

    AND had a life expectancy of about 40 years...

    Common misconception.

    In reality, the "life expectancy" of prehistoric men was artificially low because of infant morality and accidental death due to injury. For the most part people who avoided dying of a minor disease while an infant, or breaking their leg on a hunt and being left behind, lived well into their 60s, 70s, and 80s.

    And they didn't have anti-biotics. If we didn't have anti-biotics nowadays we probably wouldn't live much past 40 either.
    I would also bet that no caveman died of heart disease, diabetes or cancer either.
  • fast_eddie_72
    fast_eddie_72 Posts: 719 Member


    except when it is delivered from angels in the form of fruit..then it is fine….but added sugar…that stuff will make you go on a one month bender and you will end up broke living in ditch surrounded by a pile of your own vomit….

    Wow. I just thought you burn the energy from it quickly and will get hungry again soon. I didn't know all that. Where'd you hear that? You'd think that kind of info would be shared here.

    run a search of "sugar" and read through some of threads…

    This one had enough nonsense for me. I know my experience with refined sugar. All the "sugar is sugar" in the world won't keep my blood sugar spikes at bay. I tried to tell it not to worry, but it didn't seem to care. Maybe I should eat a dictionary.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I would also bet that no caveman died of heart disease, diabetes or cancer either.

    .. Why?
  • Natmarie73
    Natmarie73 Posts: 287 Member
    Now there are going to be dozens of people that are things like gym teachers, stay at home dads and car sales men that are going to come into this thread and tout that "science" does not suggest that eating kale is better than eating doritos and that will fight tooth and nail that a cheeseburger from 5 guys is just as healthy as a spinach salad. I laugh and move on.

    What does this even mean?

    considering kale is absolutely the most disgusting thing pushed on us by the "health food" guru's I'm all about dorito's and bugers.

    *kitten* eating kale. that *kitten* is nasty.

    Kale is food that no one actually likes, but everyone feels like they're supposed to, so they act like it's tasty. It's the elephant in the room that no one will talk about. Lol

    Clean eaters are obnoxious. It doesn't exist and it's utter trash.

    If you read this thread in its entirety, along with all the other threads that feature healthy food you will clearly see that it is not the clean eaters who are the obnoxious ones. I have not seen one single post where anyone has been insulting or rude to those people who choose to eat junk food, but plenty where junk food eaters feel they have the right to insult those of us who choose to avoid processed foods and eat healthy. I mean what's up with that? Eat all the junk food you like no one really cares but at least have the common decency and manners not to insult people who may have different views to yours. If you can't hold a civilised discussion on a public board without resorting to personal attacks and insults you might want to think about getting some psychological counselling or something.

    I can only assume that you subconsciously feel threatened by any person who has differing views and opinions to you because you know your views are not the be all and end all truth and you don't have the language or social skills to communicate with other people.

    The OP was asking how people eat clean, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute, then move on without posting.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Now there are going to be dozens of people that are things like gym teachers, stay at home dads and car sales men that are going to come into this thread and tout that "science" does not suggest that eating kale is better than eating doritos and that will fight tooth and nail that a cheeseburger from 5 guys is just as healthy as a spinach salad. I laugh and move on.

    What does this even mean?

    considering kale is absolutely the most disgusting thing pushed on us by the "health food" guru's I'm all about dorito's and bugers.

    *kitten* eating kale. that *kitten* is nasty.

    Kale is food that no one actually likes, but everyone feels like they're supposed to, so they act like it's tasty. It's the elephant in the room that no one will talk about. Lol

    Clean eaters are obnoxious. It doesn't exist and it's utter trash.

    If you read this thread in its entirety, along with all the other threads that feature healthy food you will clearly see that it is not the clean eaters who are the obnoxious ones. I have not seen one single post where anyone has been insulting or rude to those people who choose to eat junk food, but plenty where junk food eaters feel they have the right to insult those of us who choose to avoid processed foods and eat healthy. I mean what's up with that? Eat all the junk food you like no one really cares but at least have the common decency and manners not to insult people who may have different views to yours. If you can't hold a civilised discussion on a public board without resorting to personal attacks and insults you might want to think about getting some psychological counselling or something.

    I can only assume that you subconsciously feel threatened by any person who has differing views and opinions to you because you know your views are not the be all and end all truth and you don't have the language or social skills to communicate with other people.

    The OP was asking how people eat clean, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute, and believe me you don't, then shove off and let the grown ups talk.

    The people on the "eat clean" side of this debate have it exactly backwards. It's the clean eaters who constantly tell others that the food they eat will give them cancer, heart disease, etc. It's the clean eaters who constantly shame the actual foods that other people eat.

    The rest of us are trying to free people from the tyranny of "this bad food that you love will kill you." It's madness.

    It's not about insulting people whose views are different. It's about attacking pseudoscience and nonsense and food phobia.
  • fast_eddie_72
    fast_eddie_72 Posts: 719 Member
    Now there are going to be dozens of people that are things like gym teachers, stay at home dads and car sales men that are going to come into this thread and tout that "science" does not suggest that eating kale is better than eating doritos and that will fight tooth and nail that a cheeseburger from 5 guys is just as healthy as a spinach salad. I laugh and move on.

    What does this even mean?

    considering kale is absolutely the most disgusting thing pushed on us by the "health food" guru's I'm all about dorito's and bugers.

    *kitten* eating kale. that *kitten* is nasty.

    Kale is food that no one actually likes, but everyone feels like they're supposed to, so they act like it's tasty. It's the elephant in the room that no one will talk about. Lol

    Clean eaters are obnoxious. It doesn't exist and it's utter trash.

    If you read this thread in its entirety, along with all the other threads that feature healthy food you will clearly see that it is not the clean eaters who are the obnoxious ones. I have not seen one single post where anyone has been insulting or rude to those people who choose to eat junk food, but plenty where junk food eaters feel they have the right to insult those of us who choose to avoid processed foods and eat healthy. I mean what's up with that? Eat all the junk food you like no one really cares but at least have the common decency and manners not to insult people who may have different views to yours. If you can't hold a civilised discussion on a public board without resorting to personal attacks and insults you might want to think about getting some psychological counselling or something.

    I can only assume that you subconsciously feel threatened by any person who has differing views and opinions to you because you know your views are not the be all and end all truth and you don't have the language or social skills to communicate with other people.

    The OP was asking how people eat clean, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute, and believe me you don't, then shove off and let the grown ups talk.

    The people on the "eat clean" side of this debate have it exactly backwards. It's the clean eaters who constantly tell others that the food they eat will give them cancer, heart disease, etc. It's the clean eaters who constantly shame the actual foods that other people eat.

    The rest of us are trying to free people from the tyranny of "this bad food that you love will kill you." It's madness.

    It's not about insulting people whose views are different. It's about attacking pseudoscience and nonsense and food phobia.

    Is it? It's about freeing people? How many does it look like you're convincing?

    Maybe you need a new approach.

    The OP asked people who eat clean how they do it. If you want to start a "Why you don't have to eat clean" thread, might go over better than threadjacking every question you don't like. Doesn't make you look like a liberator. Makes you look.... like something else.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Is it? It's about freeing people? How many does it look like you're convincing?

    Maybe you need a new approach.

    The OP asked people who eat clean how they do it. If you want to start a "Why you don't have to eat clean" thread, might go over better than threadjacking every question you don't like. Doesn't make you look like a liberator. Makes you look.... like something else.

    A lot, actually. Look how popular IIFYM is on this site. Every week I get a new PM from someone thanking me for helping them learn to enjoy the foods they love and understand that losing weight doesn't require punishing yourself. I imagine SideSteel and Sara and others get far more of those than I do.

    That's what IIFYM is all about. Freeing you from the mental bondage of having to think of foods you love to eat as "bad food" you're supposed to feel guilty for enjoying.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member


    except when it is delivered from angels in the form of fruit..then it is fine….but added sugar…that stuff will make you go on a one month bender and you will end up broke living in ditch surrounded by a pile of your own vomit….

    Wow. I just thought you burn the energy from it quickly and will get hungry again soon. I didn't know all that. Where'd you hear that? You'd think that kind of info would be shared here.

    run a search of "sugar" and read through some of threads…

    This one had enough nonsense for me. I know my experience with refined sugar. All the "sugar is sugar" in the world won't keep my blood sugar spikes at bay. I tried to tell it not to worry, but it didn't seem to care. Maybe I should eat a dictionary.

    just make sure it does not have sugar in it...
  • fast_eddie_72
    fast_eddie_72 Posts: 719 Member
    Thing is, I don't disagree with you guys. There are a lot of opportunities to give that advice without intentionally threadjacking every question.

    I just gave this answer in another thread:

    "Good answer above. From a purely weight loss point of view, maintain a deficit and you'll lose weight. And eating some of the things you like from time to time makes it a lot easier to stick with it. Just record them, watch your calorie goal and your macros, enjoy them and don't feel guilty."

    That's the essence of your "liberation" message, isn't it? I'm telling you, as a relative newcomer here, that's not how it comes across in threads like this one. It just seems like you want to fight with anyone who chooses to do it differently than you do it.

    Just my opinion. Like I said, I don't disagree with you (a point I don't seem to be able to make enough). I just don't think it needs to dominate every thread, and don't think the site needs to be intolerant of questions about things other people want to try.

    There are also a ton of questions that get very few answers. I got politely yelled at in another thread today for suggesting that a woman who is gaining weight does NOT need to eat more calories. Why don't you, you know, look around and spread the wealth of your knowledge. I thought it was ironic that there were so few people jumping in to explain in that thread when these few seem to get posts all day long - usually from the same 10 people. If you're really trying to spread the word, that's not a very efficient way to do it. Really does make it look like you just want to argue.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I would also bet that no caveman died of heart disease, diabetes or cancer either.

    .. Why?

    I was considering the same question….not sure why cancer would not have been present, as it is primarily caused by cells mutating and then rapidly dividing….unless paleo diet prevents this?
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Thing is, I don't disagree with you guys. There are a lot of opportunities to give that advice without intentionally threadjacking every question.

    I just gave this answer in another thread:

    "Good answer above. From a purely weight loss point of view, maintain a deficit and you'll lose weight. And eating some of the things you like from time to time makes it a lot easier to stick with it. Just record them, watch your calorie goal and your macros, enjoy them and don't feel guilty."

    That's the essence of your "liberation" message, isn't it? I'm telling you, as a relative newcomer here, that's not how it comes across in threads like this one. It just seems like you want to fight with anyone who chooses to do it differently than you do it.

    Just my opinion. Like I said, I don't disagree with you (a point I don't seem to be able to make enough). I just don't think it needs to dominate every thread, and don't think the site needs to be intolerant of questions about things other people want to try.

    There are also a ton of questions that get very few answers. I got politely yelled at in another thread today for suggesting that a woman who is gaining weight does NOT need to eat more calories. Why don't you, you know, look around and spread the wealth of your knowledge. I thought it was ironic that there were so few people jumping in to explain in that thread when these few seem to get posts all day long - usually from the same 10 people. If you're really trying to spread the word, that's not a very efficient way to do it. Really does make it look like you just want to argue.

    There are two inherent reasons for that:

    1) "Clean" has no remotely consistent meaning. As a term it's useless.

    2) Whenever the thread comes up - often in the initial post itself - people make claims that are either clearly false or highly misleading. In case you haven't noticed in your short time on the board, such claims are immediately descended upon. Which makes sense, as IMO the constant barrage of horrendous lies and misinformation from the fitness and diet industry is the #1 reason people have so much trouble getting their bodies under control.

    Also, I'm not sure why you're telling me to "spread the knowledge." Go review my 8500+ posts and then tell me I don't spread knowledge. I'll wait.
  • Zumaria1
    Zumaria1 Posts: 225 Member
    Now there are going to be dozens of people that are things like gym teachers, stay at home dads and car sales men that are going to come into this thread and tout that "science" does not suggest that eating kale is better than eating doritos and that will fight tooth and nail that a cheeseburger from 5 guys is just as healthy as a spinach salad. I laugh and move on.

    What does this even mean?

    considering kale is absolutely the most disgusting thing pushed on us by the "health food" guru's I'm all about dorito's and bugers.

    *kitten* eating kale. that *kitten* is nasty.

    Obviously you have never enjoyed "soul food" before. Kale and Collard greens are absolutely delicious, if you know how to cook them. It's not just a food "pushed by health food gurus".
  • IVMarkIV
    IVMarkIV Posts: 116
    Having read every FDA label on anything I've consumed since age 12 and having backgrounds in both chemistry and pharmacy. C'mon, who wants to eat bread made with dry wall ingredients?
  • Zumaria1
    Zumaria1 Posts: 225 Member
    Kale is food that no one actually likes, but everyone feels like they're supposed to, so they act like it's tasty. It's the elephant in the room that no one will talk about. Lol

    Clean eaters are obnoxious. It doesn't exist and it's utter trash.

    I love kale, as does my processed food loving non-dieting drinks-too-much-beer husband.

    And reading through the posts in this thread, the clean eaters don't really sound like the obnoxious ones.

    It's odd sometimes how the reverse logic makes the truth look false.

    It happens a lot in real life. Usually because of low IQs and people jumping to conclusions without thinking through the situation.

    WOW. Your post is proof of what they were saying. Supposedly the clean eaters are the ones that look down their noses, but this post is just ridiculous. "low IQs". Just wow. So the reverse would be that all the so called "dirty eaters" have high IQ's????
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,222 Member
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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I wash all my hands and food before I eat it.

    I don't even do this all the time.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I wash all my hands and food before I eat it.

    I don't even do this all the time.

    joff - you are such a dirty eater…what are you doing in this thread?
  • beachlover317
    beachlover317 Posts: 2,848 Member
    I would also bet that no caveman died of heart disease, diabetes or cancer either.

    .. Why?

    I was considering the same question….not sure why cancer would not have been present, as it is primarily caused by cells mutating and then rapidly dividing….unless paleo diet prevents this?

    I'm curious how we would know if cavemen had cancer. Lots of people died of things we knew nothing about at the time.
  • Jezebel9
    Jezebel9 Posts: 396 Member
    I eat mostly organic food. I try not to eat too much sugar, salt or fat. I like kale... but I am weird, so this probably doesn't mean anything. For me, eating clean means not eating things I believe are unhealthy for me, or at least not eating very much of them. I do this by spending a lot of money on organic and local food, by growing my own and by limiting my access to the foods that I do not think are healthy for me. I usually do not eat foods that have commercials. I wish you the best.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I would also bet that no caveman died of heart disease, diabetes or cancer either.

    .. Why?

    I was considering the same question….not sure why cancer would not have been present, as it is primarily caused by cells mutating and then rapidly dividing….unless paleo diet prevents this?

    I'm curious how we would know if cavemen had cancer. Lots of people died of things we knew nothing about at the time.

    Cancers leave pretty distinct biological markers which can persist through fossilization. The most obvious would be bone cancer, which can cause pretty obvious bone deformities.
  • beachlover317
    beachlover317 Posts: 2,848 Member
    I would also bet that no caveman died of heart disease, diabetes or cancer either.

    .. Why?

    I was considering the same question….not sure why cancer would not have been present, as it is primarily caused by cells mutating and then rapidly dividing….unless paleo diet prevents this?

    I'm curious how we would know if cavemen had cancer. Lots of people died of things we knew nothing about at the time.

    Cancers leave pretty distinct biological markers which can persist through fossilization. The most obvious would be bone cancer, which can cause pretty obvious bone deformities.

    Interesting, thanks.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Now there are going to be dozens of people that are things like gym teachers, stay at home dads and car sales men that are going to come into this thread and tout that "science" does not suggest that eating kale is better than eating doritos and that will fight tooth and nail that a cheeseburger from 5 guys is just as healthy as a spinach salad.
    In to find out how being a stay at home dad prevents me from understanding science.
    I laugh and move on. I have personal experience that eating processed crap gives me inflammation and causes me pain. There is no such thing as junk food, there is junk and there is food.
    There's your problem: failure to understand context and dosage, and the fact that we all don't have an autoimmune disease just because you do.
  • Natmarie73
    Natmarie73 Posts: 287 Member

    The people on the "eat clean" side of this debate have it exactly backwards. It's the clean eaters who constantly tell others that the food they eat will give them cancer, heart disease, etc. It's the clean eaters who constantly shame the actual foods that other people eat.

    The rest of us are trying to free people from the tyranny of "this bad food that you love will kill you." It's madness.

    It's not about insulting people whose views are different. It's about attacking pseudoscience and nonsense and food phobia.

    Well the post I was replying to clearly stated that "clean eaters are obnoxious" so how is that not insulting people who's views are different? I disagree that clean eaters are constantly food shaming those who choose to eat junk food. I can't understand why people would want to eat junk food all the time but it's your choice. I don't know about anyone else but when I say "I eat clean because XYZ" it doesn't mean that I think you should too, it's a simple statement, not a judgement about you or anything else.

    As for clean eating being "pseudoscience and nonsense" I honestly don't think there is a definitive "truth" either way - every piece of information on this planet is theory, not fact, and it is up to each individual to read and make their own decisions for themselves. For all I know McDonalds could be the cure for cancer :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: .
  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    I just came in here to say...nvm *sulks out*
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    Eating clean means eating no processed foods or minimally processed foods. Lean meats, fruits, veggies, nuts, cheese.
    Not to a vegetarian.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    I can't understand why people would want to eat junk food all the time but it's your choice.
    Why do you feel that junk food, say everyday (just thrown in not every meal), leaves you baffled?

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    Having read every FDA label on anything I've consumed since age 12 and having backgrounds in both chemistry and pharmacy. C'mon, who wants to eat bread made with dry wall ingredients?
    Do you take supplements? Cause you know as well as I do that supplements aren't regulated by the FDA unless there's an endangerment to the public from them. So isn't that taking a "chance" since it's not really regulated?
    As for the "dry wall" ingredients, people do it for taste. If it tasted like crap, they probably wouldn't eat it. Taste and palatibility of foods are why many are over weight.

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  • As for the "dry wall" ingredients, people do it for taste. If it tasted like crap, they probably wouldn't eat it. Taste and palatibility of foods are why many are over weight.

    Of course they would, because they eat what they are conditioned to eat - that's part of what makes it so difficult for some to change their diet even when their health depends on it.