So this was something new today
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I don't believe that because gays are subjected to unfair things in life that I should be as well. That theory defeats itself immediately.
So, do you think you deserve more "special treatment" just because you don't feel comfortable naked?0 -
I don't mind if the person is gay, lesbian, or bi and in the same locker room with me. They are people like everyone else and deserve the right to be in the locker room too. Do I think that just because they are gay, lesbian, or bi they are going to look at me or everyone with this kind of grin :bigsmile: no, I don't. Besides I am not comfortable being naked around anyone so I use the bathroom stall to change and I take showers at home.
If someone feels uncomfortable changing or showering in front of a possible gay, lesbian, or bi person then don't. Change in the bathroom and shower at home like I do... problem solved!0 -
It would be possible to look. That makes me uncomfortable.
Get over yourself.0 -
Sounding like locker rooms aren't for everyone...0
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Fair enough. I feel the same way. There are always exceptions, social rule-breakers, and that possibility alone makes me uncomfortable.0
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I don't believe that because gays are subjected to unfair things in life that I should be as well. That theory defeats itself immediately.
Someone call the human rights commission. We can't let your horrific oppression continue any longer. WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN.0 -
I understand that some people are cool with it. I'm not, and I shouldn't have to be.
you're welcome to not use the locker room
This really is the right answer. I mean, it's not that different from my discomfort with the dude who insists on walking around naked for 10 minutes. Not really his problem, it's mine. I could chose not to use the locker room. (But in reality, I was just making lighthearted banter. Yeah, it does kinda bug me, but not enough to go home in sweaty clothes.)0 -
It would be possible to look. That makes me uncomfortable.
Get over yourself.
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It would be possible to look. That makes me uncomfortable.
Get over yourself.
Bingo.0 -
Fair enough. I feel the same way. There are always exceptions, social rule-breakers, and that possibility alone makes me uncomfortable.
Who are the social rule breakers?
I understand someone who robs people at gunpoint being a "social rule breaker". But people in a gym locker room who happen to have a different sexual preference in the privacy of their own homes does not compute to me.
How do you know your best friend isn't sleeping with the same sex? You don't. You really have no say in how people live their private sexual lives. The locker room is not a sexually charged place by any stretch of the imagination.
They don't even serve booze. :ohwell:0 -
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Couldn't care less. The locker rooms have been shared forever already with those who are not out. Now if there's obvious staring and gawking it would be different.
I take full advantage of the facilities including the steam room, dry sauna and showers. I get my money's worth. Never had any issues and I'm pretty sure there were a few gay guys in there over the years.0 -
You are exactly right however our society discriminates against the heterosexual male.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!0 -
How did he even know they were gay?
And Maximus - what about bisexuals? Seems to me we are going to need a lot of locker rooms!
ETA: straight male; no problems with sharing a locker room
You're right. Right now, from a locker room level, women are protected from men who are sexually attracted to them. Why aren't men afforded that same luxury?
And to the others on this thread.... take this to another level... Are you comfortable with a gay individual being in the locker room of your child?
I don't have any problem with gays in the locker room, long as they, like everyone else, keep it to them selves.
What bugs me are the guys who "hang out" in the locker room and insist on spending an eternity standing around buck naked. Seems like there's always one guy. Dude, I'm glad you are comfortable with your body, but don't swing that thing at me, gay straight or otherwise.Nope, don't care one bit. If a gay guy is attracted to me in a locker room...so what? I'll let the insecure folks of the world worry about that.
So you're cool if I go into your wife's locker room? I mean, surely she isn't insecure about that.
In theory, there shouldn't be any issue with a co-ed locker room. As long as you kept the same "rules" I assume for a gay man in the guys locker room. If someone in there is gay, I assume I'd get in and out without ever knowing.
In practice, I doubt it would go as smoothly in a co-ed locker room.
You are exactly right however our society discriminates against the heterosexual male.
especially us white ones!
Its so hard in todays society to be a heteroseual male0 -
I am gay. There is nothing more uncomfortable to me than changing in a locker room. Not because I'm gay, not because there are women undressing in front of me. I'm uncomfortable because there is nothing LESS SEXY than being in that situation, worried people will wonder if you are looking. Everyone sneaks a peak now and then, gay or not, its a matter of curiosity and comparing yourself to someone else. I have never ogled or wanted to look in a sexual way at anyone in the locker room. I gather most gay people probably feel the same way. I do the "look straight forward, get in and get out" approach for this reason. Gay people have plenty of places to "get a free show", believe me the stinky locker room is not high on the list.
But it's so much more awesome than that in movies.0 -
Fair enough. I feel the same way. There are always exceptions, social rule-breakers, and that possibility alone makes me uncomfortable.
It is literally possible for anyone to do anything to anyone at any time! It might be a good long term strategy to work on your anxiety and reduce feelings of uncomfortableness (which I can only assume must be ever-present due to the constant threat posed by those exceptions and rule breakers).0 -
To be honest, I'd be a little uncomfortable just because that's not my thing but then I got to thinking about it and if it's ok to have gay and straight genders in the same locker, why do we even care about having separate gender lockers? Sort of defeats the purpose right? I'd think a gay male/female is just as likely to check out their preferred gender as straight male/females tend to check out the opposite gender. Perhaps it's the fact that we split everything up that makes our society so incapable of controlling our hormones to begin with?0
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I'm not seeing a ton of valid counterarguments here, so I rest my case. It seems we're resorting to petty insults and anonymous disrespect, neither of which suit me.0
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You are exactly right however our society discriminates against the heterosexual male.
I know! I can barely make it from my upscale neighborhood to my six figure job without the Gay, Illegal, Black police pulling me over for "suspicion of being straight"! lol0 -
You are exactly right however our society discriminates against the heterosexual male.
Bahahahahaha .... *and I'm out*0 -
I'm not seeing a ton of valid counterarguments here, so I rest my case. It seems we're resorting to petty insults and anonymous disrespect, neither of which suit me.
guess you win0 -
That old man is an idiot who doesn't see he is discriminating openly
As a straight man I'm also offended that women have separate locker rooms0 -
That old man is an idiot who doesn't see he is discriminating openly
As a straight man I'm also offended that women have separate locker rooms
I'd tell the gym I'm gay and everyone would be more comfortable if I used the women's locker room, but I'm pretty sure my wife would rat me out.0 -
You are exactly right however our society discriminates against the heterosexual male.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!
Umm is someone actually seriously saying society discriminates against the heterosexual male?? You should just add white in there for good measure. That is laughable.
Also women do not have separate changing rooms to protect us from everyone that may be attracted to us. You act like if we all changed together hands would be flying everywhere. It is just because it is more comfortable to be around someone with the same parts as you. We all have boobs therefore it is nothing new to see.0 -
Are you comfortable with a gay individual being in the locker room of your child?
Of course. Gay DOES NOT mean pedophile. :noway:
And hetrosexual DOES NOT mean pedophile.... so you'd be ok with me going into your daughter's locker room?
I think you might be sexually confused0 -
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I'm not seeing a ton of valid counterarguments here, so I rest my case. It seems we're resorting to petty insults and anonymous disrespect, neither of which suit me.
Wow. You've turned us all.
Thank you for your contribution? (is that what you are searching for, unconditional love?)0 -
I'm not seeing a ton of valid counterarguments here, so I rest my case. It seems we're resorting to petty insults and anonymous disrespect, neither of which suit me.
Where are the insults and disrespect? I missed those bits...*shrug* all my responses to you have been genuine. To summarise: any feelings of uncomfortableness are your own issue to work on; they are certainly not valid justification for excluding LGBT people from changing rooms. If you can't get over the uncomfortabless then you should avoid public changing rooms until you can.0 -
Just because someone might be gay doesn't mean they find YOU attractive.
But... but ... but... How could they not be attracted to me????
On a more serious note, I really have a problem with the lesbians, I hate the competition. (rim shot oh yeah!)
Seriously, if you keep to yourself and don't try to push your lifestyle/wants/opinions on me I really don't give 2 ****s what you do.0
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