Guys - Wowen in the gym - Lululemon's or short shorts
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I just read the last page and it seems there is some turmoil...I posted the other day that the gym I was at was empty and I wish I had "pony tail" motivation and a man siad that is not why I should be there nor is it why they are there...my question is...if it pushes me harder and longer and I do not approach or even make much eye contact is that bad?0
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Not at all (assuming you aren't creepily staring at her rear end or something. A quick glance here and there is another story.).I just read the last page and it seems there is some turmoil...I posted the other day that the gym I was at was empty and I wish I had "pony tail" motivation and a man siad that is not why I should be there nor is it why they are there...my question is...if it pushes me harder and longer and I do not approach or even make much eye contact is that bad?
It isn't so much that men look as it is the tone of this thread.0 -
Yes, yes, yes.
I've been going to gyms for years. I have even been approached by men in the gym. They were ALWAYS perfectly respectful, though. I'm not afraod of that environment at all. But I am also a lot bolder than a lot of women. And when you also have the women who have been overweight all their lives, who are either not used to or are actually afraid of any attention, the problem is compounded.
Hence my remark about what gets said in the male locker room...stays in the male locker room. Most men will talk crap with each other in there, and yes, we are no angels at time. That said, the vast majority of us will not, and have no intention of, harassing a lady or making her feel uncomfortable or unwelcome when we step onto the gym floor.
Unfortunately the online environment gives both men and women the opportunity to bump their gums with seemingly little regard to the messages they are playing into - maybe we need to develop our internal monologues a bit better these days.
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That is actually incorrect.
All cells have a life cycle. Fat cells is I believe5 years. Your body only makes extra fat cells, beyond a predetermined healthy number, if you are over eating. This means that within 5 years of maintaining a healthy bf% you are just like you would have been if you had never been overweight to begin with.Study Finds That Fat Cells Die and Are Replaced
By GINA KOLATA
Every year, whether you are fat or thin, whether you lose weight or gain, 10 percent of your fat cells die. And every year, those cells that die are replaced with new fat cells, researchers in Sweden reported Sunday.
The result is that the total number of fat cells in the body remains the same, year after year throughout adulthood. Losing or gaining weight affects only the amount of fat stored in the cells, not the number of cells.
The finding was published online Sunday in the journal Nature.
Obesity investigators say the study raises tantalizing questions: What determines how many fat cells are in a person’s body? When is that number determined? Is there a way to intervene so people end up with fewer fat cells when they reach adulthood? And could obesity be treated by making fat cells die faster than they are born?
“This is a new way of looking at obesity,” said Dr. Lester Salans, an obesity researcher and emeritus professor at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York.
But for now, researchers say, they do not have a clue about how to answer those questions.
“There is a system waiting to be discovered,” said Dr. Jeffrey S. Flier, an obesity researcher and dean of Harvard Medical School.
Dr. Flier and other obesity researchers cautioned, though, that even if scientists knew how the fat cell system worked, it was not clear that it would be safe or effective to treat obesity by intervening. One of the hard lessons of the past couple of decades has been that the body has redundant controls to maintain weight.
“I suspect that the body’s regulation of weight is so complex that if you intervene at this site, something else is going to happen to neutralize this intervention,” Dr. Salans said.
But the discovery is also leading to new ways to address other questions about obesity. For example, what happens to people who are thin until adulthood and then gain a lot of weight? The study focused on people who had been fat since childhood, the usual route for adult obesity. The situation may be different for people who got fat later. They may actually grow new fat cells — the ones they had may have become so stuffed with fat that they could hold no more.
Another question is whether fat cells removed with liposuction grow back.
Both questions are now under investigation by the Swedish researchers.
In a way, Dr. Flier noted, the discovery is a sort of back-to-the-future moment. There was a time a few decades ago, before the current interest in how the brain regulates how much is eaten, when obesity researchers spent all their time studying and discussing fat cells. Investigators discovered that fat people had more fat cells than thin people and that fat cells shrank with weight loss and bulged with weight gain.
Dr. Jules Hirsch of Rockefeller University in New York, who did many of the initial studies with humans, said he started because he could not understand why people who lost weight regained. “They should have been cured,” Dr. Hirsch said. After all, he said, if you cut out a fatty tumor, the fat does not grow back. Why was fat lost from dieting different?
The result was the fat cell hypothesis, a notion that obsessed researchers. Fat cells, the hypothesis said, are laid down early in life and after that, they can change only in size, not in number. When people lose weight and their fat cells shrink, that creates a signal to fill the cells again, making people regain. “We didn’t know a lot about obesity, so that was what we talked about,” Dr. Flier said.
But the discussions stalled. It was not clear what to do about those discoveries or what they meant to efforts to help people lose weight. And no one had a method to ask whether fat cells were being created and destroyed during life. Few even thought to ask that question.
That changed only recently when the new paper’s first author, Kirsty L. Spalding, a neurobiologist at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden, developed a way to ask whether new cells grow in the cortical and cerebellum regions of the human brain. She found no new cells there since birth. One day, she was giving a talk on her brain study when a scientist in the audience, Erik Arner, suggested she use the method to look at fat cells. (Dr. Arner is the second author of Dr. Spalding’s paper.) The method for dating human cells takes advantage of an effect caused by above-ground nuclear bomb testing that took place from 1955 to 1963.
When the bombs were tested, their radioactivity created a spike in the amount of a carbon isotope, C14, in the atmosphere. The C14 made its way into plants and animals that ate the plants. When people ate those plants and meat from the animals, the C14 was incorporated into their human DNA. After the nuclear test ban, C14 levels started to drop. The result is that every cell has a C14 level that reflects the level in the atmosphere at the time the cell was born.
“Each cell is a time capsule of sorts,” Dr. Spalding said.
First the researchers confirmed that the number of fat cells remained constant in adults. Obese people who had weight loss surgery had as many fat cells two years after the surgery as before it, even though they were much thinner.
Then the investigators asked whether fat cells were being born and dying. To do that, they examined fat cells taken from 35 people, fat and lean, who had had liposuction or abdominal wall reconstruction. The amount of C14 in the cells would reveal how old the cells were. Since the number of fat cells remained constant, the number being born had to equal the number dying. And a mathematical model would reveal the dynamics of the cell turnover.
“We found the cells were really quite young,” Dr. Spalding said. “That tells us new cells are being born.”
She added: “The million-dollar question now is, What regulates this process? And where can we intervene?”0 -
That is actually incorrect.
All cells have a life cycle. Fat cells is I believe5 years. Your body only makes extra fat cells, beyond a predetermined healthy number, if you are over eating. This means that within 5 years of maintaining a healthy bf% you are just like you would have been if you had never been overweight to begin with.Study Finds That Fat Cells Die and Are Replaced
By GINA KOLATA
Every year, whether you are fat or thin, whether you lose weight or gain, 10 percent of your fat cells die. And every year, those cells that die are replaced with new fat cells, researchers in Sweden reported Sunday.
The result is that the total number of fat cells in the body remains the same, year after year throughout adulthood. Losing or gaining weight affects only the amount of fat stored in the cells, not the number of cells.
The finding was published online Sunday in the journal Nature.
Obesity investigators say the study raises tantalizing questions: What determines how many fat cells are in a person’s body? When is that number determined? Is there a way to intervene so people end up with fewer fat cells when they reach adulthood? And could obesity be treated by making fat cells die faster than they are born?
“This is a new way of looking at obesity,” said Dr. Lester Salans, an obesity researcher and emeritus professor at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York.
But for now, researchers say, they do not have a clue about how to answer those questions.
“There is a system waiting to be discovered,” said Dr. Jeffrey S. Flier, an obesity researcher and dean of Harvard Medical School.
Dr. Flier and other obesity researchers cautioned, though, that even if scientists knew how the fat cell system worked, it was not clear that it would be safe or effective to treat obesity by intervening. One of the hard lessons of the past couple of decades has been that the body has redundant controls to maintain weight.
“I suspect that the body’s regulation of weight is so complex that if you intervene at this site, something else is going to happen to neutralize this intervention,” Dr. Salans said.
But the discovery is also leading to new ways to address other questions about obesity. For example, what happens to people who are thin until adulthood and then gain a lot of weight? The study focused on people who had been fat since childhood, the usual route for adult obesity. The situation may be different for people who got fat later. They may actually grow new fat cells — the ones they had may have become so stuffed with fat that they could hold no more.
Another question is whether fat cells removed with liposuction grow back.
Both questions are now under investigation by the Swedish researchers.
In a way, Dr. Flier noted, the discovery is a sort of back-to-the-future moment. There was a time a few decades ago, before the current interest in how the brain regulates how much is eaten, when obesity researchers spent all their time studying and discussing fat cells. Investigators discovered that fat people had more fat cells than thin people and that fat cells shrank with weight loss and bulged with weight gain.
Dr. Jules Hirsch of Rockefeller University in New York, who did many of the initial studies with humans, said he started because he could not understand why people who lost weight regained. “They should have been cured,” Dr. Hirsch said. After all, he said, if you cut out a fatty tumor, the fat does not grow back. Why was fat lost from dieting different?
The result was the fat cell hypothesis, a notion that obsessed researchers. Fat cells, the hypothesis said, are laid down early in life and after that, they can change only in size, not in number. When people lose weight and their fat cells shrink, that creates a signal to fill the cells again, making people regain. “We didn’t know a lot about obesity, so that was what we talked about,” Dr. Flier said.
But the discussions stalled. It was not clear what to do about those discoveries or what they meant to efforts to help people lose weight. And no one had a method to ask whether fat cells were being created and destroyed during life. Few even thought to ask that question.
That changed only recently when the new paper’s first author, Kirsty L. Spalding, a neurobiologist at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden, developed a way to ask whether new cells grow in the cortical and cerebellum regions of the human brain. She found no new cells there since birth. One day, she was giving a talk on her brain study when a scientist in the audience, Erik Arner, suggested she use the method to look at fat cells. (Dr. Arner is the second author of Dr. Spalding’s paper.) The method for dating human cells takes advantage of an effect caused by above-ground nuclear bomb testing that took place from 1955 to 1963.
When the bombs were tested, their radioactivity created a spike in the amount of a carbon isotope, C14, in the atmosphere. The C14 made its way into plants and animals that ate the plants. When people ate those plants and meat from the animals, the C14 was incorporated into their human DNA. After the nuclear test ban, C14 levels started to drop. The result is that every cell has a C14 level that reflects the level in the atmosphere at the time the cell was born.
“Each cell is a time capsule of sorts,” Dr. Spalding said.
First the researchers confirmed that the number of fat cells remained constant in adults. Obese people who had weight loss surgery had as many fat cells two years after the surgery as before it, even though they were much thinner.
Then the investigators asked whether fat cells were being born and dying. To do that, they examined fat cells taken from 35 people, fat and lean, who had had liposuction or abdominal wall reconstruction. The amount of C14 in the cells would reveal how old the cells were. Since the number of fat cells remained constant, the number being born had to equal the number dying. And a mathematical model would reveal the dynamics of the cell turnover.
“We found the cells were really quite young,” Dr. Spalding said. “That tells us new cells are being born.”
She added: “The million-dollar question now is, What regulates this process? And where can we intervene?”
^^that may possibly (although not conclusively) refute the post you quoted. But how does it support your earlier comment? It is also highly debatable whether someone who was overweight needs to stay 'low calorie' in any event.It's quite simple, actually. The fat cells that were created aren't going anywhere... stay low calorie for the rest of your life.
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This is talking about when a persons healthy bf% is set. As an early teen your body sets the amount of fat cells it needs to be healthy. This is thought to be determined by aprox # of bf cells existing at the time.That is actually incorrect.
All cells have a life cycle. Fat cells is I believe5 years. Your body only makes extra fat cells, beyond a predetermined healthy number, if you are over eating. This means that within 5 years of maintaining a healthy bf% you are just like you would have been if you had never been overweight to begin with.Study Finds That Fat Cells Die and Are Replaced
By GINA KOLATA
Every year, whether you are fat or thin, whether you lose weight or gain, 10 percent of your fat cells die. And every year, those cells that die are replaced with new fat cells, researchers in Sweden reported Sunday.
The result is that the total number of fat cells in the body remains the same, year after year throughout adulthood. Losing or gaining weight affects only the amount of fat stored in the cells, not the number of cells.
The finding was published online Sunday in the journal Nature.
Obesity investigators say the study raises tantalizing questions: What determines how many fat cells are in a person’s body? When is that number determined? Is there a way to intervene so people end up with fewer fat cells when they reach adulthood? And could obesity be treated by making fat cells die faster than they are born?
“This is a new way of looking at obesity,” said Dr. Lester Salans, an obesity researcher and emeritus professor at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York.
But for now, researchers say, they do not have a clue about how to answer those questions.
“There is a system waiting to be discovered,” said Dr. Jeffrey S. Flier, an obesity researcher and dean of Harvard Medical School.
Dr. Flier and other obesity researchers cautioned, though, that even if scientists knew how the fat cell system worked, it was not clear that it would be safe or effective to treat obesity by intervening. One of the hard lessons of the past couple of decades has been that the body has redundant controls to maintain weight.
“I suspect that the body’s regulation of weight is so complex that if you intervene at this site, something else is going to happen to neutralize this intervention,” Dr. Salans said.
But the discovery is also leading to new ways to address other questions about obesity. For example, what happens to people who are thin until adulthood and then gain a lot of weight? The study focused on people who had been fat since childhood, the usual route for adult obesity. The situation may be different for people who got fat later. They may actually grow new fat cells — the ones they had may have become so stuffed with fat that they could hold no more.
Another question is whether fat cells removed with liposuction grow back.
Both questions are now under investigation by the Swedish researchers.
In a way, Dr. Flier noted, the discovery is a sort of back-to-the-future moment. There was a time a few decades ago, before the current interest in how the brain regulates how much is eaten, when obesity researchers spent all their time studying and discussing fat cells. Investigators discovered that fat people had more fat cells than thin people and that fat cells shrank with weight loss and bulged with weight gain.
Dr. Jules Hirsch of Rockefeller University in New York, who did many of the initial studies with humans, said he started because he could not understand why people who lost weight regained. “They should have been cured,” Dr. Hirsch said. After all, he said, if you cut out a fatty tumor, the fat does not grow back. Why was fat lost from dieting different?
The result was the fat cell hypothesis, a notion that obsessed researchers. Fat cells, the hypothesis said, are laid down early in life and after that, they can change only in size, not in number. When people lose weight and their fat cells shrink, that creates a signal to fill the cells again, making people regain. “We didn’t know a lot about obesity, so that was what we talked about,” Dr. Flier said.
But the discussions stalled. It was not clear what to do about those discoveries or what they meant to efforts to help people lose weight. And no one had a method to ask whether fat cells were being created and destroyed during life. Few even thought to ask that question.
That changed only recently when the new paper’s first author, Kirsty L. Spalding, a neurobiologist at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden, developed a way to ask whether new cells grow in the cortical and cerebellum regions of the human brain. She found no new cells there since birth. One day, she was giving a talk on her brain study when a scientist in the audience, Erik Arner, suggested she use the method to look at fat cells. (Dr. Arner is the second author of Dr. Spalding’s paper.) The method for dating human cells takes advantage of an effect caused by above-ground nuclear bomb testing that took place from 1955 to 1963.
When the bombs were tested, their radioactivity created a spike in the amount of a carbon isotope, C14, in the atmosphere. The C14 made its way into plants and animals that ate the plants. When people ate those plants and meat from the animals, the C14 was incorporated into their human DNA. After the nuclear test ban, C14 levels started to drop. The result is that every cell has a C14 level that reflects the level in the atmosphere at the time the cell was born.
“Each cell is a time capsule of sorts,” Dr. Spalding said.
First the researchers confirmed that the number of fat cells remained constant in adults. Obese people who had weight loss surgery had as many fat cells two years after the surgery as before it, even though they were much thinner.
Then the investigators asked whether fat cells were being born and dying. To do that, they examined fat cells taken from 35 people, fat and lean, who had had liposuction or abdominal wall reconstruction. The amount of C14 in the cells would reveal how old the cells were. Since the number of fat cells remained constant, the number being born had to equal the number dying. And a mathematical model would reveal the dynamics of the cell turnover.
“We found the cells were really quite young,” Dr. Spalding said. “That tells us new cells are being born.”
She added: “The million-dollar question now is, What regulates this process? And where can we intervene?”
Is only confirms my statement.
Edit to add fat cells can only fill so much, just like skin can only streaches so much. Once copasity is reached the body increases the number of cells produced till demands are met. Once this happens it goes back to business as usual.0 -
Some adults develop new fat cells
When normal-weight people gain modest amounts of fat, they do so by enlarging the fat cells in their upper body subcutaneous fat depot. In contrast, gain of lower body fat is largely the result of increasing the number of fat cells. Dr. Jensen highlights: "We found that the gain of as little as 1.2 kg of leg fat resulted in an average gain of 2.6 billion new fat cells! This finding refuted the long-held belief that adult humans do not develop new fat cells but are instead stuck with those that developed in their adolescence. We recently reported that adults do not lose these new leg fat cells when they lose weight.
"New fat cells in adults, like new fat cells in children, come from preadipocytes. Preadipocytes are one of the most common cell types found mixed in among fat cells within adipose tissue. They are typically thought of as capable of replicating and, therefore, of generating a continuous potential supply of preadipocytes and adipocytes. When a preadipocyte receives an appropriate signal from the body, it will cease replicating and develop into a mature adipocyte, which then stores and releases fatty acids under relatively strict hormonal and neural control. Adipocytes also release various hormones, known as adipokines."
From here: http://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-professionals/clinical-updates/endocrinology/what-new-adipose-tissue
Not that it really matters. It all shrinks.0 -
I got bored reading all the quoted stuff several pages back, so forgive me if I'm asking something already mentioned.
But surely I'm not the ONLY woman on the planet who loves getting checked out? I'm happily married and not actually interested, but hey if someone wants to do some harmless window shopping and checks me out as part of that, that makes me feel great and not at all "objectified". Please do carry on looking!0 -
This is talking about when a persons healthy bf% is set. As an early teen your body sets the amount of fat cells it needs to be healthy. This is thought to be determined by aprox # of bf cells existing at the time.
Is only confirms my statement.
Edit to add fat cells can only fill so much, just like skin can only streaches so much. Once copasity is reached the body increases the number of cells produced till demands are met. Once this happens it goes back to business as usual.
I'm just clarifying my earlier statement, and hoping to see members do some research on their own.
Curious though, do you not believe that epigenetic changes can be passed through the germ line for many generations? Or that getting your genotype from a methyl markup from your grandmother doesn't matter?
* done with this thread.
I'd rather be happy than right.0 -
This is talking about when a persons healthy bf% is set. As an early teen your body sets the amount of fat cells it needs to be healthy. This is thought to be determined by aprox # of bf cells existing at the time.
Is only confirms my statement.
Edit to add fat cells can only fill so much, just like skin can only streaches so much. Once copasity is reached the body increases the number of cells produced till demands are met. Once this happens it goes back to business as usual.
I'm just clarifying my earlier statement, and hoping to see members do some research on their own.
Curious though, do you not believe that epigenetic changes can be passed through the germ line for many generations? Or that getting your genotype from a methyl markup from your grandmother doesn't matter?
* done with this thread.
YAY! Derail over!!!
Now, more yoga pants / short shorts!0 -
*high five*I got bored reading all the quoted stuff several pages back, so forgive me if I'm asking something already mentioned.
But surely I'm not the ONLY woman on the planet who loves getting checked out? I'm happily married and not actually interested, but hey if someone wants to do some harmless window shopping and checks me out as part of that, that makes me feel great and not at all "objectified". Please do carry on looking!
I love being appreciated!0 -
don't we all go to the gym because of vanity [and health and gainz and whatever...but also vanity]? why wouldn't we want our hard work appreciated?
i'm not saying slap me on the *kitten* and take me to dinner, but come on kids... we can all appreciate each other without being hyper-sensitive about it, just like we can appreciate each other without being complete creepers about it.0 -
High fivedon't we all go to the gym because of vanity [and health and gainz and whatever...but also vanity]? why wouldn't we want our hard work appreciated?
i'm not saying slap me on the *kitten* and take me to dinner, but come on kids... we can all appreciate each other without being hyper-sensitive about it, just like we can appreciate each other without being complete creepers about it.0 -
This is talking about when a persons healthy bf% is set. As an early teen your body sets the amount of fat cells it needs to be healthy. This is thought to be determined by aprox # of bf cells existing at the time.
Is only confirms my statement.
Edit to add fat cells can only fill so much, just like skin can only streaches so much. Once copasity is reached the body increases the number of cells produced till demands are met. Once this happens it goes back to business as usual.
I'm just clarifying my earlier statement, and hoping to see members do some research on their own.
Curious though, do you not believe that epigenetic changes can be passed through the germ line for many generations? Or that getting your genotype from a methyl markup from your grandmother doesn't matter?
* done with this thread.
YAY! Derail over!!!
Now, more yoga pants / short shorts!
Am I the only one still waiting for more pics?0 -
This is talking about when a persons healthy bf% is set. As an early teen your body sets the amount of fat cells it needs to be healthy. This is thought to be determined by aprox # of bf cells existing at the time.
Is only confirms my statement.
Edit to add fat cells can only fill so much, just like skin can only streaches so much. Once copasity is reached the body increases the number of cells produced till demands are met. Once this happens it goes back to business as usual.
I'm just clarifying my earlier statement, and hoping to see members do some research on their own.
Curious though, do you not believe that epigenetic changes can be passed through the germ line for many generations? Or that getting your genotype from a methyl markup from your grandmother doesn't matter?
* done with this thread.
YAY! Derail over!!!
Now, more yoga pants / short shorts!
Am I the only one still waiting for more pics?
I find butt selfies particularly difficult.
ETA: however, I don't wear Lulus so maybe my *kitten* doesn't belong in this thread anyhow.0 -
This is talking about when a persons healthy bf% is set. As an early teen your body sets the amount of fat cells it needs to be healthy. This is thought to be determined by aprox # of bf cells existing at the time.
Is only confirms my statement.
Edit to add fat cells can only fill so much, just like skin can only streaches so much. Once copasity is reached the body increases the number of cells produced till demands are met. Once this happens it goes back to business as usual.
I'm just clarifying my earlier statement, and hoping to see members do some research on their own.
Curious though, do you not believe that epigenetic changes can be passed through the germ line for many generations? Or that getting your genotype from a methyl markup from your grandmother doesn't matter?
* done with this thread.
YAY! Derail over!!!
Now, more yoga pants / short shorts!
Am I the only one still waiting for more pics?
I find butt selfies particularly difficult.
ETA: however, I don't wear Lulus so maybe my *kitten* doesn't belong in this thread anyhow.
I'm pretty sure a pic without pants of any sort would be most popular.0 -
Any woman who is willing to shell out $100+ for a pair of yoga pants = not sexy in my eyes.
Plus - who doesn't love when a girl with a nice booty has the cheeks hanging out the bottom of some itty bitty spandex shorts? I sure do love that ****.0 -
*high five*I got bored reading all the quoted stuff several pages back, so forgive me if I'm asking something already mentioned.
But surely I'm not the ONLY woman on the planet who loves getting checked out? I'm happily married and not actually interested, but hey if someone wants to do some harmless window shopping and checks me out as part of that, that makes me feel great and not at all "objectified". Please do carry on looking!
I love being appreciated!
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I am a huge fan of Lulu's, completely has taken my focus away from the short shorts in the gym. anyone else?
real men don't need a gym.0 -
Hey Folks,
Quick reminder to please keep it civil or move on and remember our photo guidelines when posting:
12. No Profane, Vulgar, Sexually Explicit or Illegal Images
All images on the site, including all profile pictures and images posted in the forums, should be work-place friendly. While we reserve the right to remove any photo we feel is inappropriate, here are some partial guidelines as to what is not acceptable:
- no nudity
- no underwear, thongs, g-strings, or banana hammocks
- no pants or shorts worn mid-hip or below (no saggers)
- no photos in which hands or objects are the only bodily covering
- no excessive cleavage (if you would wear it to work, it’s probably OK)
- no close-up shots of cleavage, butt, breasts or crotch in any state of dress
- no hateful or violent imagery
- no images containing profanity or vulgarity
Thanks,
Olivia
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^ someone had to specifically write "banana hammock" into the rules and guidelines. That's bananas! (I hate myself for that one)0
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^ someone had to specifically write "banana hammock" into the rules and guidelines. That's bananas! (I hate myself for that one)
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Ooooh, back in...
...to see if this thread survives post-mod reminder of the rules.*
(In my experience, that's usually the kiss of death for a thread.)
Oh, and I vote for either. Who am I to tell someone what they should or shouldn't wear (and how much they should or shouldn't spend on their clothing?) I've learned in life that you often get what you pay for and that it is usually more expensive to buy the cheapest option...
...and in some cases the extra $$$ buys you a membership in some kind of secret club.
*edit: my bet is that this dies out now...
...but could certainly still end in an Olivilock™.0 -
$h!t just got real. I'm breaking out the popcorn and just watching the drama unfold. This is better than if "Mean Girls" and "The Biggest Loser" were made into one show.
The Meanest Loser?0 -
Any woman who is willing to shell out $100+ for a pair of yoga pants = not sexy in my eyes.
Plus - who doesn't love when a girl with a nice booty has the cheeks hanging out the bottom of some itty bitty spandex shorts? I sure do love that ****.
I'm not sexy because I bought lululemon stuff?
Got it.0 -
$h!t just got real. I'm breaking out the popcorn and just watching the drama unfold. This is better than if "Mean Girls" and "The Biggest Loser" were made into one show.
The Meanest Loser?
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What a woman wears is only part of the sexiness... I am looking at confidence that she carries herself in.... But in all honesty, if she's in decent shape both are nice... Some woman shouldn't wear either..0
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last night at the gym i wore light grey shorts with blue stripes on the side and a dark grey t-shirt with "Trust me Im a JEDI" in gold writing on it.
i set up an amphitheater so the girls could watch me.
it was empty.0 -
Any woman who is willing to shell out $100+ for a pair of yoga pants = not sexy in my eyes.
Plus - who doesn't love when a girl with a nice booty has the cheeks hanging out the bottom of some itty bitty spandex shorts? I sure do love that ****.
what if the spandex shorts cost $100+ does that make them not sexy to you?0 -
last night at the gym i wore light grey shorts with blue stripes on the side and a dark grey t-shirt with "Trust me Im a JEDI" in gold writing on it.
i set up an amphitheater so the girls could watch me.
it was empty.
I admire your optimism and that you were planning for success.0
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