not giving up meat for Lent
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I need the protein. I already don't get enough- I don't get nearly any vegetarian protein. I am giving up alcohol, even on Sundays... I will give up all drinks besides water, coffee, and an occasional diet soda. I think limiting my eating (i.e. not eating pizza, cheesesteaks, or the cheesecake that is currently in my fridge) is enough... I think God can forgive me for that.
Lol, God. :laugh:
What, you don't think God's not just hanging out up there waiting for some human to eat a piece of meat on a Friday so he can make a note in the official Catholic tally?0 -
The way you wrote it did not come across as you intended.
Thank you, Cliff Clavin.thinking of actually going vegetarian because I actually love fish so it's not all that much of a penance.
That would be pescatarian, not vegetarian
I was talking about just eating vegetarian Friday meals INSTEAD of including fish in them.
But making the distinction is important because when people think "vegetarian" means you eat fish, you get served fish a lot. People who eat fish calling themselves vegetarian is annoying.
Yeah but according to some religious and cultural traditions, fish isn't meat so that's where you get that. There are some Roman Catholics in South America that dub any aquatic animal 'not meat' (like a capybara).
religious voodoo's can say it's not meat all they want- it doesn't change the fact an animal died and now you are eating it- just because it's not a mammal doesn't mean it's not a living thing..
meat is dead flesh.
fish served for the purpose of eating is: drum roll please.......... dead flesh.
If you eat veggies and eat meat- you aren't a vegetarian. it's Super annoying to me for some reason no idea why but it is.
Vegetarian =/ pescatarian.
and yeah- 46 grams of protein? BAW HA HA HA HA HA HA
not. My goal is 150-200. Why are some of those things even on there for sources of protein? That's hysterical- what is the point of eating a 500 calorie bagel if your goal is to get protein?
^^This. All of what Jo said. Get your labels and your voodoo right.0 -
I need the protein. I already don't get enough- I don't get nearly any vegetarian protein. I am giving up alcohol, even on Sundays... I will give up all drinks besides water, coffee, and an occasional diet soda. I think limiting my eating (i.e. not eating pizza, cheesesteaks, or the cheesecake that is currently in my fridge) is enough... I think God can forgive me for that.
Lol, God. :laugh:
What, you don't think God's not just hanging out up there waiting for some human to eat a piece of meat on a Friday so he can make a note in the official Catholic tally?
I hear He was forced to upgrade to Oracle because his SQL Database couldnt handle all the data.0 -
I love my meat too much to give it up.0
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I need the protein. I already don't get enough- I don't get nearly any vegetarian protein. I am giving up alcohol, even on Sundays... I will give up all drinks besides water, coffee, and an occasional diet soda. I think limiting my eating (i.e. not eating pizza, cheesesteaks, or the cheesecake that is currently in my fridge) is enough... I think God can forgive me for that.
Lol, God. :laugh:
What, you don't think God's not just hanging out up there waiting for some human to eat a piece of meat on a Friday so he can make a note in the official Catholic tally?
Nope. lol!0 -
Thank you, Cliff Clavin.thinking of actually going vegetarian because I actually love fish so it's not all that much of a penance.
That would be pescatarian, not vegetarian
I was talking about just eating vegetarian Friday meals INSTEAD of including fish in them.
Why didn't you say that then?0 -
All of the intense focus on refraining from (certain types) of meat 1 day a week and giving up some petty, insignificant vice for a few months. Isn't there a nagging voice in the back of your mind questioning why this matters at all to people anymore? Why not pledge to do something that actually matters to / helps people (you can't tell me rationally that any sort of credible deity cares whether you eat a piece of bologna on Friday or that you you temporarily gave up Skittles)?0
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And here I thought this was a supportive community... Now I know why I rarely post on the message boards.0
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ChamplainHeavi, aarontfen, skinnygirls -
Believe me, I clearly understand the point of lent and I certainly am not missing it. I just disagree with it and that's ok for me. I apologize if I didn't articulate it clearly in my original post. I do not believe I need to give up something for temporary period of time to show my love and appreciation for Jesus. There are many other ways you can honor and appreciate his sacrifices such as living your life all year long the way Jesus would have wanted or pray on a regular basis thanking him for his sacrifices and for your life instead of praying for things you need. IMO giving up something for Lent is meaningless if the rest of the year you are not living your life the way Jesus would have wanted you to. I choose not to do something for the season of Lent but to practice it all year long. I am happy and content with my choices and beliefs. I believe Jesus and God would be too. :flowerforyou:Remember you also don't have to abstain from a specific thing during lent as you can add something such as meditation, or volunteer, make a donation, random acts of kindness, etc.:drinker:
I agree 100%. But why limit this to 1 season. Why not practice this all year long?
I agree. It is something we should practice all year round.0 -
yeah- that's how the owner of my resturant where I work is- he mostly only eats fish... I'm like- that's not vegetarian LOL. just <facepalm>Hey. I'm totally with you! It's why so many people think they're vegetarian when they still eat fish.
My cousin used to claim she was veg and she ate everything but red meat.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH my boyfriend's roommate is "vegetarian" but he couldn't give up sushi. I was like- so your pescetarian?Oof, like that girl that posted a month or so ago that she was vegan, except that she still drank milk and had eggs "sometimes".....
"well yeah I guess- but mostly vegetarian" sigh
yeah- no- not angry at you- just it makes me head want to explode LOL.
Thank you for this.
:flowerforyou:
As a vegetarian (lacto-ovo), things like this are really frustrating for me as well. Due to it I get people trying to feed me things such as fish or meat sauce minus the chunks of meat because they know a "vegetarian" who ate such and such. When I try to explain what I will eat and vegetarianism the other person gets argumentative. They insist that I can eat fish or whatever because of the one person they know of claiming to be something they really aren't. Followed by good old Oh you are one of "those people" trying to change the world to be like you. Now, anyone who truly knows me knows I really don't care what other people choose to consume. My husband is a meat eater and it has no effect on what I choose to put in my own body. I don't give him or anyone else flak over eating meat. I just wish people would take a moment to learn about various diets and truly understand them before speaking about them. It is frustrating indeed.
As far as the people saying they are vegetarian or vegan and follow by adding I only eat such and such from time to time, I have some theories. My first is I think these people are really more concerned with having that label because for whatever reason it makes them feel better about themselves or for whatever reason makes them feel morally superior. (Please see note at end) My second is they may find it easier to claim they are vegetarian or vegan instead of saying they mostly eat a vegetarian or vegan diet or transitioning to a vegetarian/vegan lifestyle.
***Note***
I DO NOT (not shouting - just don't know how to put that in bold) believe I am morally superior for choosing a vegetarian life style. I do know people though who believe there is some morally superiority to it. :noway: That's why I mentioned it.0 -
All of the intense focus on refraining from (certain types) of meat 1 day a week and giving up some petty, insignificant vice for a few months. Isn't there a nagging voice in the back of your mind questioning why this matters at all to people anymore? Why not pledge to do something that actually matters to / helps people (you can't tell me rationally that any sort of credible deity cares whether you eat a piece of bologna on Friday or that you you temporarily gave up Skittles)?
Because that's not the way being Catholic works- duh.0 -
As a vegetarian (lacto-ovo), things like this are really frustrating for me as well. Due to it I get people trying to feed me things such as fish or meat sauce minus the chunks of meat because they know a "vegetarian" who ate such and such. When I try to explain what I will eat and vegetarianism the other person gets argumentative.
My partner puts it across as "nothing with a face"
Personally I quite like dead animal now and again, but not often 0 -
My partner puts it across as "nothing with a face"
Personally I quite like dead animal now and again, but not often
had a friend who said "fish aren't animals- they are tubes- with eyes"
shrug. whatever helps you get through the day I guess.0 -
All of the intense focus on refraining from (certain types) of meat 1 day a week and giving up some petty, insignificant vice for a few months. Isn't there a nagging voice in the back of your mind questioning why this matters at all to people anymore? Why not pledge to do something that actually matters to / helps people (you can't tell me rationally that any sort of credible deity cares whether you eat a piece of bologna on Friday or that you you temporarily gave up Skittles)?
You can pledge to DO something instead of pledging to give up something. I don't get why it matters so much to others about what people choose to do or not do for Lent.
The sacrifice of whatever vice someone chooses to give up is to remember the sacrificing that Jesus did and his 40 day fast. If you think it's silly or irrational then don't participate. Simple as that.0 -
When I try to explain what I will eat and vegetarianism the other person gets argumentative. They insist that I can eat fish or whatever because of the one person they know of claiming to be something they really aren't.
My aunt got nasty with me over the vegetarians can eat fish thing.
But what's truly funny about that is that even before I became veg, I didn't eat fish or any kind of seafood. I never liked the taste. This is something my entire family knows about me, so it was especially ridiculous that she was insisting I must eat fish as a veg when I didn't eat it as a meat-eater!0 -
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AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
"i need protein so can't give up meat"
OMG
FUNIEST THING IVE SEEN ON THE INTERNET TODAY
I guess it is fine if your protein goal is 41. 0 -
When I try to explain what I will eat and vegetarianism the other person gets argumentative. They insist that I can eat fish or whatever because of the one person they know of claiming to be something they really aren't.
My aunt got nasty with me over the vegetarians can eat fish thing.
But what's truly funny about that is that even before I became veg, I didn't eat fish or any kind of seafood. I never liked the taste. This is something my entire family knows about me, so it was especially ridiculous that she was insisting I must eat fish as a veg when I didn't eat it as a meat-eater!
The exact same for me. It actually was my aunt insisting I could eat fish and my uncle with the meat sauce. I didn't eat any seafood prior to becoming vegetarian either. Like you, I never liked the taste.0 -
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
"i need protein so can't give up meat"
OMG
FUNIEST THING IVE SEEN ON THE INTERNET TODAY
I guess it is fine if your protein goal is 41.
Also unless any of the above mention foods were cut up into animal shapes I would touch them!!!!!0 -
Why didn't you say that then?
Because the primary subject matter I was discussing was penitential nature of eating fish. I was NOT discussing the difference between pescetarianism and vegetarianism.0 -
When I try to explain what I will eat and vegetarianism the other person gets argumentative. They insist that I can eat fish or whatever because of the one person they know of claiming to be something they really aren't.
My aunt got nasty with me over the vegetarians can eat fish thing.
But what's truly funny about that is that even before I became veg, I didn't eat fish or any kind of seafood. I never liked the taste. This is something my entire family knows about me, so it was especially ridiculous that she was insisting I must eat fish as a veg when I didn't eat it as a meat-eater!
The exact same for me. It actually was my aunt insisting I could eat fish and my uncle with the meat sauce. I didn't eat any seafood prior to becoming vegetarian either. Like you, I never liked the taste.
People are weird.0 -
All of the intense focus on refraining from (certain types) of meat 1 day a week and giving up some petty, insignificant vice for a few months. Isn't there a nagging voice in the back of your mind questioning why this matters at all to people anymore? Why not pledge to do something that actually matters to / helps people (you can't tell me rationally that any sort of credible deity cares whether you eat a piece of bologna on Friday or that you you temporarily gave up Skittles)?
You can pledge to DO something instead of pledging to give up something. I don't get why it matters so much to others about what people choose to do or not do for Lent.
The sacrifice of whatever vice someone chooses to give up is to remember the sacrificing that Jesus did and his 40 day fast. If you think it's silly or irrational then don't participate. Simple as that.
I don't - but that doesn't prohibit me from expressing my opinion. If reading critical and/or contradictory opinions disturbs you, an internet message board probably isn't for you...0 -
ROFLMAO. I love that move. It makes me laugh every time I watch it.0 -
I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, church every Sunday - the whole 9 yards.
IMO I think giving up something for Lent is one of those silly traditions the church has us do. Do you honestly think God is really going to judge you for eating or not eating this or that? God's judgement will really be more on how you live your life, treat others and the Earth not what you do or don't eat.
So what I am saying is do what you feel is right for you. Don't worry about what the church dictates you "should" do. I think you will be ok.
FYI - I am vegetarian and I have no problem getting in protein. My intake last night was 96.
The purpose of giving up something for Lent is to show our gratitude for all the sacrifices Christ made for us so we can live the way we do. It is not just something the Church dictates.
One can "give up" things that are not material, physical or temporal... that's just what everyone first thinks of when they think of giving up something for Lent. I mentioned to my Godson (he's 12 and was just baptised into the Anglican church) he could give up fighting with his sister for Lent, after he commented on the fact that, due to mischeviousness, and otherwise 12yr old boy things, had most of his 'fun stuff' taken away from him, and therefore didn't really have anything to "give up"
Or you can do something out of your ordinary that will bring you closer to God. It doesn't have to be anything you "give up." Our Church is one that usually recommends doing good deeds you wouldn't normally do instead of giving up something deemed "bad."0 -
Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:0 -
ROFLMAO. I love that move. It makes me laugh every time I watch it.
I know. Windex on everything! LOL!0 -
Very happy in my giving-up-nothing agnoticism right now.0
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Very happy in my giving-up-nothing agnoticism right now.
indeed.
I'm starting to cut next month so I'll be giving up carbs in copious quanities
but that's another ball of wax. 0 -
I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, church every Sunday - the whole 9 yards.
IMO I think giving up something for Lent is one of those silly traditions the church has us do. Do you honestly think God is really going to judge you for eating or not eating this or that? God's judgement will really be more on how you live your life, treat others and the Earth not what you do or don't eat.
So what I am saying is do what you feel is right for you. Don't worry about what the church dictates you "should" do. I think you will be ok.
FYI - I am vegetarian and I have no problem getting in protein. My intake last night was 96.
The purpose of giving up something for Lent is to show our gratitude for all the sacrifices Christ made for us so we can live the way we do. It is not just something the Church dictates.
One can "give up" things that are not material, physical or temporal... that's just what everyone first thinks of when they think of giving up something for Lent. I mentioned to my Godson (he's 12 and was just baptised into the Anglican church) he could give up fighting with his sister for Lent, after he commented on the fact that, due to mischeviousness, and otherwise 12yr old boy things, had most of his 'fun stuff' taken away from him, and therefore didn't really have anything to "give up"
Or you can do something out of your ordinary that will bring you closer to God. It doesn't have to be anything you "give up." Our Church is one that usually recommends doing good deeds you wouldn't normally do instead of giving up something deemed "bad."
I agree with what you are saying. :flowerforyou:
But my question is wouldn't it bring you closer to God to practice that good deed 365 days a year rather than just for the season for Lent? I am thinking of the people who most likely go back to their familiar ways once Lent ends. IMO it would be better to practice these things all year long rather than a short period of time.0 -
I'm not Catholic but still giving something up during Lent, not for the church, but to concentrate and focus on what Jesus has done for me. I think you may be missing the point of Lent. Wink.
Lent isn't just for Catholics any longer, they did give it the name (the world Lent in various anglo languages meaning 'spring') and used it to show respect and thanks for Jesus. It was originally 40 days (to represent Jesus' 40 days in the desert) and I believe it was full fasting... then they changed it to just meat... then again to just on Fridays... then again to Meat's ok on Friday's give up whatever the heck you want (I could be wrong about all this, Im not Catholic so never learned the full history).
Nowadays Lent is a way for Christian's of all denominations to thank Jesus for his suffering to give up something for those 40 days before Easter (the time he spent in the desert).
It's supposed to be something that's not easy for you, that is a struggle so we can get an idea of his suffering. I originally said meat but really that's not suffering for me because I can't eat it anyway (for medical reasons)... I was thinking chocolate. That will be a struggle that will turn me into a holy *****....0
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