not giving up meat for Lent
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It's supposed to be something that's not easy for you, that is a struggle so we can get an idea of his suffering. I originally said meat but really that's not suffering for me because I can't eat it anyway (for medical reasons)... I was thinking chocolate. That will be a struggle that will turn me into a holy *****....
not to get into it- but I fail to see how giving up something trivial in your life is remotely close to dying in one of the most long and inhuman ways possible.0 -
It's supposed to be something that's not easy for you, that is a struggle so we can get an idea of his suffering. I originally said meat but really that's not suffering for me because I can't eat it anyway (for medical reasons)... I was thinking chocolate. That will be a struggle that will turn me into a holy *****....
not to get into it- but I fail to see how giving up something trivial in your life is remotely close to dying in one of the most long and inhuman ways possible.
but... it's symbolic0 -
It's supposed to be something that's not easy for you, that is a struggle so we can get an idea of his suffering. I originally said meat but really that's not suffering for me because I can't eat it anyway (for medical reasons)... I was thinking chocolate. That will be a struggle that will turn me into a holy *****....
not to get into it- but I fail to see how giving up something trivial in your life is remotely close to dying in one of the most long and inhuman ways possible.
but... it's symbolic
oooohhhhoooooooooo
<insert gold halo and trumpets>
all makes sense now.0 -
Lent used to mean in my family that at the end (on Easter Sunday) we got to eat crescia. But now we just eat it whenever we want.0
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I'm not Catholic but still giving something up during Lent, not for the church, but to concentrate and focus on what Jesus has done for me. I think you may be missing the point of Lent. Wink.
Lent isn't just for Catholics any longer, they did give it the name (the world Lent in various anglo languages meaning 'spring') and used it to show respect and thanks for Jesus. It was originally 40 days (to represent Jesus' 40 days in the desert) and I believe it was full fasting... then they changed it to just meat... then again to just on Fridays... then again to Meat's ok on Friday's give up whatever the heck you want (I could be wrong about all this, Im not Catholic so never learned the full history).
You are still supposed to fast on Ash Wednesday (today) and on Good Friday and not eat meat. You can have one meal and then a couple small snacks whenever you would eat your other 2 meals so its not a full blown fast. You are also not to eat meat on Fridays during Lent (I don't know about anyone else by Friday Fish Fry is a big thing where I live no matter what time of year). Then, for Lent which lasts 40 days, you sacrifice something or commit to doing good deeds that you wouldn't normally do to remember the sacrifices that Jesus did during the 40 days.0 -
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
"i need protein so can't give up meat"
OMG
FUNIEST THING IVE SEEN ON THE INTERNET TODAY
^^ I aim for double that amount.
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OP: someone mentioned fish. I'm not Catholic, but I look forward to Lent for the Friday Fish Fry at the local Catholic church. Love me some fried fish! Lots of protein!0 -
Oh wow! 4 whole grams of protein in a potato, we're saved!
Vegetarian propaganda aside most people require more protein than 40-50 grams and a lot of those foods are high in calories or carbs which people are trying to avoid.
IKR? I'm always amused when someone says peanut butter is a great source of protein. It's not. Hell, my reduced-fat peanut butter *still* has more grams of fat than protein per 2tbsp serving (8g protein/ 12g fat). To me, a *good* source of protein has 10+ grams of protein per serving. A *great* source has 20g.
But hey, to each their own.
^^ Great source of fat, moderate protein, but too yummy to avoid! :bigsmile:0 -
I went to catholic school, and I can remember during lent the brothers would gather for a lobster feast every friday night during lent. I always had a problem with this. I cheap hamburger honors the idea of sacrificing something more than lobsterfest. Honoring the letter of the rule while ignoring the spirit of it never sat well with me.
That's something that always baffled me too. But I figure that since it's not my religion, I'll just let it go. I wish our local Catholic church did lobster. Love it! :ohwell:0 -
Please explain to me the benefits of a religion where you change the rules to fit how you'd like to live. Isn't that convenient? What are the rules for if you are just going to change them to your own needs and/or desires?
IN for the benefits of religion....
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I went to catholic school, and I can remember during lent the brothers would gather for a lobster feast every friday night during lent. I always had a problem with this. I cheap hamburger honors the idea of sacrificing something more than lobsterfest. Honoring the letter of the rule while ignoring the spirit of it never sat well with me.
That's something that always baffled me too. But I figure that since it's not my religion, I'll just let it go. I wish our local Catholic church did lobster. Love it! :ohwell:
Well Catholic churches HAVE always been the gaudy ones
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yeah I just don't get it- I mean meat- dead animal- fish is an animal- so I'd be puzzled to not understand how a basic human couldn't get that- but thankfully those people are dead- so whatever. I mean I get WHY they would eat fish- but not considering it meat- I've never gotten that. like you said- **shrug** just try to fix the left overs of that in today's population LOL
A LOT of people even today don't consider fish meat. Heck, I've come across an awful lot of people who think only beef is meat. Chicken, pork, fish, etc., they think are not.
When my son was little, he thought all meat was chicken. He'd say, "Mommy, what kind of chicken is this, cow or pig?" :laugh:0 -
Nowadays Lent is a way for Christian's of all denominations to thank Jesus for his suffering to give up something for those 40 days before Easter (the time he spent in the desert).
Not all of them. Lots of denominations still view it as a Catholic thing. I can't imagine my parents (A/G) giving up meat for a day, let alone for 40 days. (And my dad can't eat fish very often because of gout.) And my friend is Baptist and still teases about "The Catholics and their guilt." (even though Baptists tend to be Hellfire/Brimstone as well)0 -
Please explain to me the benefits of a religion where you change the rules to fit how you'd like to live. Isn't that convenient? What are the rules for if you are just going to change them to your own needs and/or desires?
IN for the benefits of religion....
Now that's just adorable!0 -
Nowadays Lent is a way for Christian's of all denominations to thank Jesus for his suffering to give up something for those 40 days before Easter (the time he spent in the desert).
Not all of them. Lots of denominations still view it as a Catholic thing. I can't imagine my parents (A/G) giving up meat for a day, let alone for 40 days. (And my dad can't eat fish very often because of gout.) And my friend is Baptist and still teases about "The Catholics and their guilt." (even though Baptists tend to be Hellfire/Brimstone as well)
yeah not even most of them. it's a way for people to "give up chocolate" and try and lose weight for a couple weeks.
yep no chocolate totally = dying and suffering and all that jazz.0 -
Nowadays Lent is a way for Christian's of all denominations to thank Jesus for his suffering to give up something for those 40 days before Easter (the time he spent in the desert).
Not all of them. Lots of denominations still view it as a Catholic thing. I can't imagine my parents (A/G) giving up meat for a day, let alone for 40 days. (And my dad can't eat fish very often because of gout.) And my friend is Baptist and still teases about "The Catholics and their guilt." (even though Baptists tend to be Hellfire/Brimstone as well)
yeah not even most of them. it's a way for people to "give up chocolate" and try and lose weight for a couple weeks.
yep no chocolate totally = dying and suffering and all that jazz.
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And not to mention that it was Jesus who said that what goes in the mouth should not be considered sinful, but what comes out of the mouth. (because the mouth speaks from the heart)0 -
not to get into it- but I fail to see how giving up something trivial in your life is remotely close to dying in one of the most long and inhuman ways possible.
I don't think it has to do with his dying on the cross, but what he suffered his 40 says in the desert... which is what Lent represents.0 -
I usually give up meat and chocolate, but like you, i cannot give up meat this year. Chocolate is easy but I've given up a lot of things since Thanksgiving lol It's hard to leave anymore things behind.
Maybe I can adopt a new way of thinking for Lent. Be positive and not give up0 -
not to get into it- but I fail to see how giving up something trivial in your life is remotely close to dying in one of the most long and inhuman ways possible.
I don't think it has to do with his dying on the cross, but what he suffered his 40 says in the desert... which is what Lent represents.
oh my bad. Let me rephrase.
It's EXACTLY like that. yes_ i see it now- I understand: the blisters and sunburn- dehydration and constant hunger- just like giving up chocolate or alcohol.0 -
not to get into it- but I fail to see how giving up something trivial in your life is remotely close to dying in one of the most long and inhuman ways possible.
I don't think it has to do with his dying on the cross, but what he suffered his 40 says in the desert... which is what Lent represents.
so giving up chocolate in your climate controlled house, driving your car to and from work, messing with your iPhone and iPad.... yeah... seems about equivalent to suffering in a friggin desert for a month and a half. :drinker:0 -
I usually give up meat and chocolate, but like you, i cannot give up meat this year. Chocolate is easy but I've given up a lot of things since Thanksgiving lol It's hard to leave anymore things behind.
Isn't. That. Exactly. The. Point?
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You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.
No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?0 -
It's MFP, of course it is!You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.
No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?0 -
What's your problem? No one said it's like that either.not to get into it- but I fail to see how giving up something trivial in your life is remotely close to dying in one of the most long and inhuman ways possible.
I don't think it has to do with his dying on the cross, but what he suffered his 40 says in the desert... which is what Lent represents.
oh my bad. Let me rephrase.
It's EXACTLY like that. yes_ i see it now- I understand: the blisters and sunburn- dehydration and constant hunger- just like giving up chocolate or alcohol.0 -
Posted this in the other Lent thread:
I'm a recovering Catholic, but when I was practicing I gave up some of my time every year, and volunteered somewhere.
If the whole point was to consider what Jesus had given up for you, I figured that besides the very obvious way he gave, Jesus gave up all his time to help others. And so, giving up my own time to help others was the best way to honor him. Not giving up foods I enjoy.0 -
What's your problem? No one said it's like that either.
the whole thing is trite- and people do it because they think they have to. it is- for the bulk of people who participate- dis-in-genuine and fake.
and has nothing to do with their desire to be a better person (I support challenges that strive to improve something about yours life)-if it was - they wouldn't wait around till now to do it.... they do it because a church they don't attend says they should.
And it's symbolic so it's supposed to mean something- most of the people it doesn't. Here they are "oh what should I give up- oh gee I dunno- has to be something I can't actually live without- and it has to be something I don't like- because that's not a "sacrifice"- giving up chocolate isn't sacrifice. Giving up facebook isn't sacrifice- just look at that and read it out loud a few times and listen to how stupid it sounds.
I gave up face book for lent. really? that's your big commitment? to the God who sacrificed his son? you're giving social media.
the whole thing is just amusing and trite. and more importantly- shouldn't be in Food and Nutrition.
I dont' have an issue with people who are earnest and genuine in their beliefs. I may not agree- but I respect them for holding to their morals/ethics and beliefs. But most people do this because "it's what we do" to be good Catholics.
oh- and I think organized religion causes more problems than it solves and makes people worse not better- but more power to them for sticking with it. but that's a different thing all together.0 -
What's your problem? No one said it's like that either.
the whole thing is trite- and people do it because they think they have to. it is- for the bulk of people who participate- dis-in-genuine and fake.
and has nothing to do with their desire to be a better person (I support challenges that strive to improve something about yours life)-if it was - they wouldn't wait around till now to do it.... they do it because a church they don't attend says they should.
And it's symbolic so it's supposed to mean something- most of the people it doesn't. Here they are "oh what should I give up- oh gee I dunno- has to be something I can't actually live without- and it has to be something I don't like- because that's not a "sacrifice"- giving up chocolate isn't sacrifice. Giving up facebook isn't sacrifice- just look at that and read it out loud a few times and listen to how stupid it sounds.
I gave up face book for lent. really? that's your big commitment? to the God who sacrificed his son? you're giving social media.
the whole thing is just amusing and trite. and more importantly- shouldn't be in Food and Nutrition.
I dont' have an issue with people who are earnest and genuine in their beliefs. I may not agree- but I respect them for holding to their morals/ethics and beliefs. But most people do this because "it's what we do" to be good Catholics.
oh- and I think organized religion causes more problems than it solves and makes people worse not better- but more power to them for sticking with it. but that's a different thing all together.
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You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.
No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?
I agree with this.
Well said.0 -
You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.
No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?
I agree with this.
Well said.
And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.
Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.
As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.
How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?0 -
ChamplainHeavi, aarontfen, skinnygirls -
Believe me, I clearly understand the point of lent and I certainly am not missing it. I just disagree with it and that's ok for me. I apologize if I didn't articulate it clearly in my original post. I do not believe I need to give up something for temporary period of time to show my love and appreciation for Jesus. There are many other ways you can honor and appreciate his sacrifices such as living your life all year long the way Jesus would have wanted or pray on a regular basis thanking him for his sacrifices and for your life instead of praying for things you need. IMO giving up something for Lent is meaningless if the rest of the year you are not living your life the way Jesus would have wanted you to. I choose not to do something for the season of Lent but to practice it all year long. I am happy and content with my choices and beliefs. I believe Jesus and God would be too. :flowerforyou:Remember you also don't have to abstain from a specific thing during lent as you can add something such as meditation, or volunteer, make a donation, random acts of kindness, etc.:drinker:
I agree 100%. But why limit this to 1 season. Why not practice this all year long?
I agree. It is something we should practice all year round.
Totally with you, common courtesy and kindness towards others is something we should all practice daily. However in my opinion I just feel like a little extra effort should be made during lent
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I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will.
Really? REALLY???
I don't like when religious people push their beliefs on me. It isn't any more welcome when it's an atheist. Keep it to yourself. No one cares. And if there is no God and religion is all fake, then what difference does it make if people believe?
In the end, according to you, we're all just going to be dust and none of this matters, anyway. So let people do what makes them happy and leave them alone. Of course, if they get in your face, go right ahead and give it back. But when they're keeping to themselves or being respectful, why do you have to ridicule them? What are you getting out of it?0
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