not giving up meat for Lent

WendyTerry420

I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will.

Really? REALLY???

I don't like when religious people push their beliefs on me. It isn't any more welcome when it's an atheist. Keep it to yourself. No one cares. And if there is no God and religion is all fake, then what difference does it make if people believe?

In the end, according to you, we're all just going to be dust and none of this matters, anyway. So let people do what makes them happy and leave them alone. Of course, if they get in your face, go right ahead and give it back. But when they're keeping to themselves or being respectful, why do you have to ridicule them? What are you getting out of it?

Amen!

mccindy72

I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will.

You're no better than any of the members of an organized religion who say they feel it's their duty to force everyone to convert to what they believe.

Christian or Catholic, Muslim or Buddhist, Agnostic or Atheist, we're all entitled to believe what we want. you have no right to ridicule anyone or force your own beliefs on anyone.
SHUT. UP.

MelRC117

You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.

No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?

I agree with this.

Well said.

And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.

Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.

As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.

How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?

People could argue that Atheism is a religion. Athiests may not believe it but it certainly fulfills some of the criteria of religion.

rml_16

People could argue that Atheism is a religion. Athiests may not believe it but it certainly fulfills some of the criteria of religion.

I got in trouble on FB once for using the term "fundamentalist atheist." I got lectured about just why an atheist cannot be a fundamentalist.

I think my point is proven here. lol

sjaplo

I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will.

Really? REALLY???

I don't like when religious people push their beliefs on me. It isn't any more welcome when it's an atheist. Keep it to yourself. No one cares. And if there is no God and religion is all fake, then what difference does it make if people believe?

In the end, according to you, we're all just going to be dust and none of this matters, anyway. So let people do what makes them happy and leave them alone. Of course, if they get in your face, go right ahead and give it back. But when they're keeping to themselves or being respectful, why do you have to ridicule them? What are you getting out of it?

Not a thing - simply expressing my opinion - as is everyone else. Thank you for expressing yours. This is how discourse works..........

sjaplo

You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.

No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?

I agree with this.

Well said.

And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.

Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.

As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.

How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?

People could argue that Atheism is a religion. Athiests may not believe it but it certainly fulfills some of the criteria of religion.

oh agreed - but believing in imaginary friends isn't one of them.

sjaplo

I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will.

You're no better than any of the members of an organized religion who say they feel it's their duty to force everyone to convert to what they believe.

Christian or Catholic, Muslim or Buddhist, Agnostic or Atheist, we're all entitled to believe what we want. you have no right to ridicule anyone or force your own beliefs on anyone.
SHUT. UP.

"an organized religion" don't you mean all of them? I have every right to express my opinion - you are free to do what you want with the information.

MelRC117

What's your problem? No one said it's like that either.

the whole thing is trite- and people do it because they think they have to. it is- for the bulk of people who participate- dis-in-genuine and fake.

and has nothing to do with their desire to be a better person (I support challenges that strive to improve something about yours life)-if it was - they wouldn't wait around till now to do it.... they do it because a church they don't attend says they should.

And it's symbolic so it's supposed to mean something- most of the people it doesn't. Here they are "oh what should I give up- oh gee I dunno- has to be something I can't actually live without- and it has to be something I don't like- because that's not a "sacrifice"- giving up chocolate isn't sacrifice. Giving up facebook isn't sacrifice- just look at that and read it out loud a few times and listen to how stupid it sounds.

I gave up face book for lent. really? that's your big commitment? to the God who sacrificed his son? you're giving social media.

the whole thing is just amusing and trite. and more importantly- shouldn't be in Food and Nutrition.

I dont' have an issue with people who are earnest and genuine in their beliefs. I may not agree- but I respect them for holding to their morals/ethics and beliefs. But most people do this because "it's what we do" to be good Catholics.

oh- and I think organized religion causes more problems than it solves and makes people worse not better- but more power to them for sticking with it. but that's a different thing all together.

Fine with you if you find it amusing and trite. I'm glad you wasted so much of your time saying how amusing and trite it is.

A sacrifice is an offering, something you would probably rather keep or continue to do. No one is saying giving up chocolate is like suffering for 40 days in the wilderness. No one is say it's just going to kill them to not go onto Facebook. It is very small in comparision to what Jesus did, but it's a way to remember that each time you think about eating a piece of chocolate, each time you would rather hit the snooze button, each time you want to check out your Newsfeed. I don't see how you take that as them saying that they are suffering just like Jesus did because they are giving up red meat as they sit in their heated homes driving nice cars, and watching television.

sjaplo

I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will.

You're no better than any of the members of an organized religion who say they feel it's their duty to force everyone to convert to what they believe.

Christian or Catholic, Muslim or Buddhist, Agnostic or Atheist, we're all entitled to believe what we want. you have no right to ridicule anyone or force your own beliefs on anyone.
SHUT. UP.

"an organized religion"? don't you mean all of them. I have the right to an opinion as do you. I have expressed mine, you don't have to like it. You have expressed yours, ditto and noted.

mccindy72

I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will.

You're no better than any of the members of an organized religion who say they feel it's their duty to force everyone to convert to what they believe.

Christian or Catholic, Muslim or Buddhist, Agnostic or Atheist, we're all entitled to believe what we want. you have no right to ridicule anyone or force your own beliefs on anyone.
SHUT. UP.

"an organized religion"? don't you mean all of them. I have the right to an opinion as do you. I have expressed mine, you don't have to like it. You have expressed yours, ditto and noted.

Not all religions are organized. I personally don't believe in religion or belong to one. That doesn't mean I think anyone has the right to belittle people for believing in one or belonging to one, as long as they aren't using it as a means to hurt other people, and no one here has done that, until you came along said it gave you an excuse to "ridicule" people. Just because you disagree with people doesn't mean you have to force them to change their minds, or bully them into feeling bad because they believe differently than you.

MelRC117

You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.

No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?

I agree with this.

Well said.

And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.

Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.

As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.

How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?

People could argue that Atheism is a religion. Athiests may not believe it but it certainly fulfills some of the criteria of religion.

oh agreed - but believing in imaginary friends isn't one of them.

So you're agreeing it is a religion?

sjaplo

You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.

No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?

I agree with this.

Well said.

And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.

Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.

As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.

How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?

People could argue that Atheism is a religion. Athiests may not believe it but it certainly fulfills some of the criteria of religion.

oh agreed - but believing in imaginary friends isn't one of them.

So you're agreeing it is a religion?

haha you're funny - playing semantics to score points.

JoRocka

Fine with you if you find it amusing and trite. I'm glad you wasted so much of your time saying how amusing and trite it is.

A sacrifice is an offering, something you would probably rather keep or continue to do. No one is saying giving up chocolate is like suffering for 40 days in the wilderness. No one is say it's just going to kill them to not go onto Facebook. It is very small in comparision to what Jesus did, but it's a way to remember that each time you think about eating a piece of chocolate, each time you would rather hit the snooze button, each time you want to check out your Newsfeed. I don't see how you take that as them saying that they are suffering just like Jesus did because they are giving up red meat as they sit in their heated homes driving nice cars, and watching television.

it's in an open portion of the forum- which is not where it should be- but it also means I am allowed to comment on it without feeling like I'm int the wrong.

I personally do NOT agree with tearing down people's walls of religion-you are entitled to believe what every you want but I'm a realist- whatever you believe is up to you. But the bulk of the people that participate in this tradition do it because "it's what you do" that's what bothers me the most I think- and it's supposed to represent something- mostly it just is a mild inconvenience to them.

You can't honestly tell me that the bulk of people who participate are genuine people who strive to represent their religion, their beliefs and their God all year round.

Mostly it's a change to get on track and feel better about themselves- say their hail mary's and that's it- life goes back to the way it was. it's trite.

And it's a forum- the whole point is a waste of time for me- education and to waste time/pass time/fill time. I dont' see it as a great loss to engage in conversation via forum- even on controversial topics. I never directly insulted anyone's religion- just practices that are trite and tend to bring "the masses" to mass if you will. I'm not mocking a person for their faith.- I'm questioning the institution and tradition and why typically it means nothing to people. Those two are not the same.

cwsreddy

You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.

No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?

I agree with this.

Well said.

And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.

Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.

As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.

How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?

:drinker: :drinker: :drinker:

Holly_Roman_Empire

Back just to say this: If you're concerned about giving up meat for Lent, no meat on Fridays, or fasting two meals on Fridays, you're probably doing it for the wrong reasons. Don't get bogged down in the "rules" of it all.

cwsreddy

Guys can we learn to use quotes correctly? Reading this page was difficult.

Maybe I should give that up for lent... about on par with what Jesus went through I'd wager.

mccindy72

Guys can we learn to use quotes correctly? Reading this page was difficult.

Maybe I should give that up for lent... about on par with what Jesus went through I'd wager.

Maybe you should give up the forums for Lent.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"

I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.

Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!

I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:

Umm, Jesus is not God...............

Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.

mccindy72

Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"

I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.

Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!

I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:

Umm, Jesus is not God...............

Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.

Haven't spent too much time reading the Bible, have we?

JoRocka

Guys can we learn to use quotes correctly? Reading this page was difficult.

Maybe I should give that up for lent... about on par with what Jesus went through I'd wager.

Maybe you should give up the forums for Lent.

I know I should. LMFAO

Umm, Jesus is not God...............

Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.

oh is this a new and improved bible? where can I get my copy????

Sorilea

It's not about whether God will judge you for eating or not eating something. Of course He won't. It's about sacrificing something you like or enjoy to remember the sacrifice that God made for us.

cwsreddy

Guys can we learn to use quotes correctly? Reading this page was difficult.

Maybe I should give that up for lent... about on par with what Jesus went through I'd wager.

Maybe you should give up the forums for Lent.

I know I should. LMFAO

HEY. HEY.

She was talking to ME buddy. Haven't you heard that everything is always about me?

Sheesh. Rude.

rml_16

Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"

I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.

Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!

I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:

Umm, Jesus is not God...............

Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.

You never fail to disappoint in the entertainment department.

cwsreddy

Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"

I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.

Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!

I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:

Umm, Jesus is not God...............

Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.

You never fail to disappoint in the entertainment department.

i mean... all this stuff is just opinion anyway... why is his opinion wrong? yall so funny.

WendyTerry420

Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"

I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.

Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!

I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:

Umm, Jesus is not God...............

Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.

Haven't spent too much time reading the Bible, have we?

1 John 4:7,8

DamePiglet

You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.

No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?

I agree with this.

Well said.

And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.

Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.

As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.

How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?

So it's your duty to be unkind to people.
Because other people were cruel to OTHER people who were dead before you were born.

To stomp out "hypocracy"

Got it.

cwsreddy

You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.

No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?

I agree with this.

Well said.

And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.

Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.

As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.

How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?

So it's your duty to be unkind to people.
Because other people were cruel to OTHER people who were dead before you were born.

To stomp out "hypocracy"

Got it.

you realize it's no different from Christians evangelizing and going on missions and trying to save the heathens in africa right?

DamePiglet

You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.

No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?

I agree with this.

Well said.

And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.

Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.

As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.

How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?

So it's your duty to be unkind to people.
Because other people were cruel to OTHER people who were dead before you were born.

To stomp out "hypocracy"

Got it.

you realize it's no different from Christians evangelizing and going on missions and trying to save the heathens in africa right?

Would that be the part where they bring medicines and supplies to said "heathens"? Improve their drinking water, quality of life and help them stay alive? Would that be the unkindness that you're speaking of?

'cause yeah, ribbing on Christians in internet forums is EXACTLY like that.

cwsreddy

You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.

No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?

I agree with this.

Well said.

And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.

Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.

As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.

How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?

So it's your duty to be unkind to people.
Because other people were cruel to OTHER people who were dead before you were born.

To stomp out "hypocracy"

Got it.

you realize it's no different from Christians evangelizing and going on missions and trying to save the heathens in africa right?

Would that be the part where they bring medicines and supplies to said "heathens"? Improve their drinking water, quality of life and help them stay alive? Would that be the unkindness that you're speaking of?

with absolutely NO ulterior motive of course.

DamePiglet

You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.

No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?

I agree with this.

Well said.

And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.

Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.

As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.

How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?

So it's your duty to be unkind to people.
Because other people were cruel to OTHER people who were dead before you were born.

To stomp out "hypocracy"

Got it.

you realize it's no different from Christians evangelizing and going on missions and trying to save the heathens in africa right?

Would that be the part where they bring medicines and supplies to said "heathens"? Improve their drinking water, quality of life and help them stay alive? Would that be the unkindness that you're speaking of?

with absolutely NO ulterior motive of course.

Different is different.