not giving up meat for Lent
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I'm not Catholic but still giving something up during Lent, not for the church, but to concentrate and focus on what Jesus has done for me. I think you may be missing the point of Lent. Wink.
Lent isn't just for Catholics any longer, they did give it the name (the world Lent in various anglo languages meaning 'spring') and used it to show respect and thanks for Jesus. It was originally 40 days (to represent Jesus' 40 days in the desert) and I believe it was full fasting... then they changed it to just meat... then again to just on Fridays... then again to Meat's ok on Friday's give up whatever the heck you want (I could be wrong about all this, Im not Catholic so never learned the full history).
You are still supposed to fast on Ash Wednesday (today) and on Good Friday and not eat meat. You can have one meal and then a couple small snacks whenever you would eat your other 2 meals so its not a full blown fast. You are also not to eat meat on Fridays during Lent (I don't know about anyone else by Friday Fish Fry is a big thing where I live no matter what time of year). Then, for Lent which lasts 40 days, you sacrifice something or commit to doing good deeds that you wouldn't normally do to remember the sacrifices that Jesus did during the 40 days.
Yep, fish fry's are big around here and even bigger during Lent. The local news even has a fish fry finder and there is another website that tells you all about the local fish fry's, LOL.
http://www.fridaynightfish.com/0 -
You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.
No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?
I agree with this.
Well said.
And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.
Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.
As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.
How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?
So it's your duty to be unkind to people.
Because other people were cruel to OTHER people who were dead before you were born.
To stomp out "hypocracy"
Got it.
Cool thanks for catching my spelling mistake. hypocrisy, hypocrisy, hypocrisy - only another 99 times to go.
Not sure how opening up a discussion on organized religion is being unkind to people, but if that's your take - you go ahead and own it.
If you don't question organized religion and those who practice it, then how does one stop situations such as the Rwanda's, the Holocaust's, the Jone's Towns, the Branch Davidian's, and on and on and on and on..............
People are being cruel to people right now - in the name of religion.0 -
I love this place.
seriously.
so fab.0 -
You know. I don't practice any religion or take part in the rituals, but I don't see the point of belittling and maknig fun of people for following their own path.
No one in this thread who is a practicing Catholic is pushing a belief on anyone, yet several people feel the need to make nasty remarks about something a lot of people hold dear. Is that really necessary?
I agree with this.
Well said.
And I disagree entirely. As an RC - recovering Catholic and a practicing athiest (no really) I feel it is our duty to ridicule and tear down the structures of any and all religions that people use as a shield to hide from the truth that there is no god, never has been and never will. People chose religion because we are social creatures (well most of us, myself not so much) and need to band together to belong to something, anything.
Organized religion is the bane of humanity's existence and has caused and is still causing much of the worlds issues.
As for the terrible suffering on the cross? I'm pretty sure there were worse deaths during the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody expected by the way) and who was in charge of that? Oh right the Catholics.
How about we give up religion and all its hypocracy for Lent?
So it's your duty to be unkind to people.
Because other people were cruel to OTHER people who were dead before you were born.
To stomp out "hypocracy"
Got it.
you realize it's no different from Christians evangelizing and going on missions and trying to save the heathens in africa right?
Would that be the part where they bring medicines and supplies to said "heathens"? Improve their drinking water, quality of life and help them stay alive? Would that be the unkindness that you're speaking of?
with absolutely NO ulterior motive of course.
Right - all that Christian money wouldn't have anything to do with homosexuality being outlawed in Uganda, of course not silly me.0 -
Methodist don't give up meat for Lent. If you are catholic you can have fish on Fridays.
Remember Lent is about sacrifice and reflection so you can become closer to God. You don't necessarly have teo give up any food.
I am giving up my snooze button in favor or getting up and saying morning prayers or spending that extra 10 minutes reading the Bible. My husband and I also give up curse words. We donate 25 cents for every curse word.
Eat healthy and treat you body well and appriceate what it can do. I can't speek for him but I htink that will please God.0 -
Methodist don't give up meat for Lent. If you are catholic you can have fish on Fridays.
Remember Lent is about sacrifice and reflection so you can become closer to God. You don't necessarly have teo give up any food.
I am giving up my snooze button in favor or getting up and saying morning prayers or spending that extra 10 minutes reading the Bible. My husband and I also give up curse words. We donate 25 cents for every curse word.
Eat healthy and treat you body well and appriceate what it can do. I can't speek for him but I htink that will please God.
totes adorbs.0 -
Why didn't you say that then?
Because the primary subject matter I was discussing was penitential nature of eating fish. I was NOT discussing the difference between pescetarianism and vegetarianism.
My apologies for not appreciating what you thought you were putting across, rather than what you said.
Must go and redo the psychic course
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What's your problem? No one said it's like that either.
the whole thing is trite- and people do it because they think they have to. it is- for the bulk of people who participate- dis-in-genuine and fake.
and has nothing to do with their desire to be a better person (I support challenges that strive to improve something about yours life)-if it was - they wouldn't wait around till now to do it.... they do it because a church they don't attend says they should.
And it's symbolic so it's supposed to mean something- most of the people it doesn't. Here they are "oh what should I give up- oh gee I dunno- has to be something I can't actually live without- and it has to be something I don't like- because that's not a "sacrifice"- giving up chocolate isn't sacrifice. Giving up facebook isn't sacrifice- just look at that and read it out loud a few times and listen to how stupid it sounds.
I gave up face book for lent. really? that's your big commitment? to the God who sacrificed his son? you're giving social media.
the whole thing is just amusing and trite. and more importantly- shouldn't be in Food and Nutrition.
I dont' have an issue with people who are earnest and genuine in their beliefs. I may not agree- but I respect them for holding to their morals/ethics and beliefs. But most people do this because "it's what we do" to be good Catholics.
oh- and I think organized religion causes more problems than it solves and makes people worse not better- but more power to them for sticking with it. but that's a different thing all together.
wow you really care about what others do0 -
What's your problem? No one said it's like that either.
the whole thing is trite- and people do it because they think they have to. it is- for the bulk of people who participate- dis-in-genuine and fake.
and has nothing to do with their desire to be a better person (I support challenges that strive to improve something about yours life)-if it was - they wouldn't wait around till now to do it.... they do it because a church they don't attend says they should.
And it's symbolic so it's supposed to mean something- most of the people it doesn't. Here they are "oh what should I give up- oh gee I dunno- has to be something I can't actually live without- and it has to be something I don't like- because that's not a "sacrifice"- giving up chocolate isn't sacrifice. Giving up facebook isn't sacrifice- just look at that and read it out loud a few times and listen to how stupid it sounds.
I gave up face book for lent. really? that's your big commitment? to the God who sacrificed his son? you're giving social media.
the whole thing is just amusing and trite. and more importantly- shouldn't be in Food and Nutrition.
I dont' have an issue with people who are earnest and genuine in their beliefs. I may not agree- but I respect them for holding to their morals/ethics and beliefs. But most people do this because "it's what we do" to be good Catholics.
oh- and I think organized religion causes more problems than it solves and makes people worse not better- but more power to them for sticking with it. but that's a different thing all together.
Yup.0 -
wow you really care about what others do
not so much.
annoyed- yes.
care? not particularly. I don't view them as the same thing to be honest.0 -
Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:
Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
Haven't spent too much time reading the Bible, have we?
I have spent a LOT of time reading the bible.
In the old testament of the bible, God is portrayed as a killer and an annihilator, violence, the killing of children, etc. It is also stated in the Old Testament that God does not change.
Sound very loving to you? The priest once said when we were in Sunday School that if God were a fair God none of us would make it to heaven.0 -
I know I should. LMFAOGuys can we learn to use quotes correctly? Reading this page was difficult.
Maybe I should give that up for lent... about on par with what Jesus went through I'd wager.
Maybe you should give up the forums for Lent.Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
oh is this a new and improved bible? where can I get my copy????
Actually No, the OLD testament, which was made way before the new testament, before Jesus was born and walked the earth.0 -
Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:
Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
Haven't spent too much time reading the Bible, have we?
I have spent a LOT of time reading the bible.
In the old testament of the bible, God is portrayed as a killer and an annihilator, violence, the killing of children, etc. It is also stated in the Old Testament that God does not change.
Sound very loving to you? The priest once said when we were in Sunday School that if God were a fair God none of us would make it to heaven.
And this is why people don't like organized religion. :ohwell:0 -
You never fail to disappoint in the entertainment department.Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:
Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
It is not an opinion. It is stated over and over and over in the Old Testament. People tend to forget about the old testament and speak only of the new testament.
I have taken several religion classes in college as well as I grew up Catholic and we were taught that God is a vengeful God.
Why do you think the Old Testament states "An eye for an eye, etc........." Because God was full of annihilation, violence, and venegence. the killing of children, etc.0 -
Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:
Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
Haven't spent too much time reading the Bible, have we?
1 John 4:7,8
Do you know anything about the OLD Testament or do you only read the New Testament????
I took a semester of study of the Old Testament and it was part philosophy as to why WE thought God was so vengeful and such.0 -
You never fail to disappoint in the entertainment department.Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:
Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
It is not an opinion. It is stated over and over and over in the Old Testament. People tend to forget about the old testament and speak only of the new testament.
I have taken several religion classes in college as well as I grew up Catholic and we were taught that God is a vengeful God.
Why do you think the Old Testament states "An eye for an eye, etc........." Because God was full of annihilation, violence, and venegence. the killing of children, etc.
I assume you've never cut your hair either then, since you go by the Old Testament.
In the Old Testament, men had many wives and concubines. Because it talks about it, does that make it okay for you?0 -
Methodist don't give up meat for Lent. If you are catholic you can have fish on Fridays.
Remember Lent is about sacrifice and reflection so you can become closer to God. You don't necessarly have teo give up any food.
I am giving up my snooze button in favor or getting up and saying morning prayers or spending that extra 10 minutes reading the Bible. My husband and I also give up curse words. We donate 25 cents for every curse word.
Eat healthy and treat you body well and appriceate what it can do. I can't speek for him but I htink that will please God.
totes adorbs.
At least some others that disagree can actual frame out sentences and their ideas, rather than resorting to mocking every person that disagrees with them and not adding one bit of an even semi-logical thought or idea.0 -
In because this has gotten hilarious.0
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You never fail to disappoint in the entertainment department.Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:
Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
It is not an opinion. It is stated over and over and over in the Old Testament. People tend to forget about the old testament and speak only of the new testament.
I have taken several religion classes in college as well as I grew up Catholic and we were taught that God is a vengeful God.
Why do you think the Old Testament states "An eye for an eye, etc........." Because God was full of annihilation, violence, and venegence. the killing of children, etc.
I'm more curious about how we got away from the holy trinity- only one God- and all.0 -
You never fail to disappoint in the entertainment department.Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:
Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
It is not an opinion. It is stated over and over and over in the Old Testament. People tend to forget about the old testament and speak only of the new testament.
I have taken several religion classes in college as well as I grew up Catholic and we were taught that God is a vengeful God.
Why do you think the Old Testament states "An eye for an eye, etc........." Because God was full of annihilation, violence, and venegence. the killing of children, etc.
I assume you've never cut your hair either then, since you go by the Old Testament.
In the Old Testament, men had many wives and concubines. Because it talks about it, does that make it okay for you?
I didn't say I lived by the Old Testament personally. I stated that I have studied it and God is not the loving God that the New Testament portrays him as.
It is also stated somewhere in the New Testament that God doesn't change, so how can he be such a loving, caring God when he has ordered the destruction of cities, killing of babies and children, violence, total annihilation, etc.
And, I wear my hair very short. I wear mixed fibers, etc.0 -
You never fail to disappoint in the entertainment department.Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:
Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
It is not an opinion. It is stated over and over and over in the Old Testament. People tend to forget about the old testament and speak only of the new testament.
I have taken several religion classes in college as well as I grew up Catholic and we were taught that God is a vengeful God.
Why do you think the Old Testament states "An eye for an eye, etc........." Because God was full of annihilation, violence, and venegence. the killing of children, etc.
I'm more curious about how we got away from the holy trinity- only one God- and all.
God and Jesus aren't the same thing. Jesus is a real man that really roamed the earth. God is the deity that no one has seen nor heard from.............I really don't know if he truly exists, but Jesus did exist and was a real, living human being.0 -
Methodist don't give up meat for Lent. If you are catholic you can have fish on Fridays.
Remember Lent is about sacrifice and reflection so you can become closer to God. You don't necessarly have teo give up any food.
I am giving up my snooze button in favor or getting up and saying morning prayers or spending that extra 10 minutes reading the Bible. My husband and I also give up curse words. We donate 25 cents for every curse word.
Eat healthy and treat you body well and appriceate what it can do. I can't speek for him but I htink that will please God.
totes adorbs.
What is that even supposed to mean? It sounds like something a toddler would say.0 -
Why didn't you say that then?
Because the primary subject matter I was discussing was penitential nature of eating fish. I was NOT discussing the difference between pescetarianism and vegetarianism.
My apologies for not appreciating what you thought you were putting across, rather than what you said.
Must go and redo the psychic course
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You never fail to disappoint in the entertainment department.Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:
Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
It is not an opinion. It is stated over and over and over in the Old Testament. People tend to forget about the old testament and speak only of the new testament.
I have taken several religion classes in college as well as I grew up Catholic and we were taught that God is a vengeful God.
Why do you think the Old Testament states "An eye for an eye, etc........." Because God was full of annihilation, violence, and venegence. the killing of children, etc.
I assume you've never cut your hair either then, since you go by the Old Testament.
In the Old Testament, men had many wives and concubines. Because it talks about it, does that make it okay for you?
I didn't say I lived by the Old Testament personally. I stated that I have studied it and God is not the loving God that the New Testament portrays him as.
It is also stated somewhere in the New Testament that God doesn't change, so how can he be such a loving, caring God when he has ordered the destruction of cities, killing of babies and children, violence, total annihilation, etc.
And, I wear my hair very short. I wear mixed fibers, etc.
Newsflash: There are lots of inconsistencies in the Bible.
There are lots of loving people fighting wars right now. I don't know why a deity can't be just AND loving.0 -
In because this has gotten hilarious.
Pretty much the only reason I'm still here. Hehe.0 -
You never fail to disappoint in the entertainment department.Tennisdude200~"What did Jesus give up for me?"
I don't wanna be that gal...but, He gave up His life for you. He was beaten until they could not recognise Him. No other "god" did this for you/us. I hope you will see that God is LOVE not a big bully up in the sky.
Just my 2 cents/ pounds and not hard feelings!
I wish all of life's BEST and CHEERZ! :drinker:
Umm, Jesus is not God...............
Jesus is love. God is a vengeful God, not a loving God.
It is not an opinion. It is stated over and over and over in the Old Testament. People tend to forget about the old testament and speak only of the new testament.
I have taken several religion classes in college as well as I grew up Catholic and we were taught that God is a vengeful God.
Why do you think the Old Testament states "An eye for an eye, etc........." Because God was full of annihilation, violence, and venegence. the killing of children, etc.
I'm more curious about how we got away from the holy trinity- only one God- and all.
God and Jesus aren't the same thing. Jesus is a real man that really roamed the earth. God is the deity that no one has seen nor heard from.............I really don't know if he truly exists, but Jesus did exist and was a real, living human being.
I don't think that Jesus, Luke, Peter, Paul, Matthew, John and so forth are Hebrew names. Or Thomas.0 -
Newsflash: There are lots of inconsistencies in the Bible.
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See: Mark of Cain.0 -
/sigh
why do people always think they need meat to get enough protein?0 -
This thread has gotten nuts (quelle surprise)...
Cool....I can check off "Watch a religious debate unfold on a food and nutrition board" from my bucket list now.
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i hate fish. i would fail miserably at anything that would require me to eat fish.0
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