Does anyone else have crap genetics?
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Yes, I may be new, however I'm not new to debating, which we are. I don't think you are seeing what I'm saying. I AGREE with you, but everyone seems to be hung up on my sympathy for the OP. I've not said anywhere that she should just give up on trying to love her body, not once. I only tried to defend her against those who (now if it's not you, it doesn't apply, I'm not *accusing* unless you actually did) were saying she was not working hard enough at LOSING. I believe I've tried to make my point clear enough, if I haven't, well I don't think that's on me.
If you continue to lurk in the forums, you will see every excuse known to mankind why people are overweight.
To SO MANY, it's not their fault.
It's Mom's fault, Dad's fault, SOs fault, childbirth, parenthood, the government, Big Food Corp... even blamed on "my friend the pastry chef"0 -
I get people that say I have great genetics, till they see what I looked like in high school. I look the way I look now because of A LOT of dedicated working out, proper nutrition and patience.
Does my shape help genetically? Yeah, that's something we can't change too much, but improvement on what you have will ALWAYS have you looking better.
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Yes, I may be new, however I'm not new to debating, which we are. I don't think you are seeing what I'm saying. I AGREE with you, but everyone seems to be hung up on my sympathy for the OP. I've not said anywhere that she should just give up on trying to love her body, not once. I only tried to defend her against those who (now if it's not you, it doesn't apply, I'm not *accusing* unless you actually did) were saying she was not working hard enough at LOSING. I believe I've tried to make my point clear enough, if I haven't, well I don't think that's on me.
Here's the thing. This is a public forum. This post is going to garner a variety of responses from people with a variety of perspectives. Sure, there are lots here that support through empathy. There are others that support through agitation (as I mentioned earlier). There are others posting here that want to share a different perspective with the OP. And there are definitely several here stating that things could be worse (and they could).
Just because we aren't all empathizing with her rant, does not mean that she is being attacked. It means that we have something to share that she might find more helpful than focusing on things she has no control over (AKA her "crap" genetics).0 -
I'm going to agree with the OP. Genetics can sometimes suck. However, they are what they are and we can't do anything about them. My daughter is freckled, even more than I am. It doesn't matter that we slathered sunscreen on her all.the.time, she's genetically predisposed to get them and she does.
I have a big bum, not huge, but big, so does my mom. However, my mom has an itty bitty waist too. I, don't. My sisters and I get big arms, quickly, when lifting. One of my sisters tested this to the extreme and has a very manly look to her shoulders and arms. If I lift heavy, I get big arms and shoulders. It doesn't work that way for my legs, but it does for my arms. It's genetic. Another sister is skinny (she's a runner, but her bone structure is very different from mine and she's skinny, but if she lifts heavy, even her arms get bulky, for her).
So, I work with what I got. I'm short (5'4") and finding pants to fit my shorts legs sucks. It's genetic, my mom is all of 4'10".
So, yes, genes can hinder the way we want to look, so we have to accept who we are and work with what we got. I know I will never look like a 5'9" model and I'm ok with it. I want to be thinner, but accept that I'll never be skinny (and I'm ok with it). Genetically, women in my family live long (my grandmothers are still alive, they are 97 and 94, their moms were both 85 when they died), so I'm grateful for that.
Maybe the OP needs to understand that genetically speaking there are limits to looking a certain way and she needs to decide how to work with her body and accept it for its beauty and uniqueness.0 -
This thread has been interesting indeed. I think we can all relate to striving for a certain goal and feeling a bit down when we don't progress the way we envision.0
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I'm sure you've never, ever been frustrated in your life and gotten mad at something not working the way you wanted before, either. Never muttered the words "stupid computer" or "crappy car" when you were upset, yea? Nah, never. Again, it's obviously a struggle for her. Too bad a fitness forum can't be an appropriate outlet for her.
You can fix, trade-in or buy a new computer or car with the only inconvenience being cost. You cannot fix, trade-in or buy a different body type. You can only work on making it the best it can be. That darn reality again.
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Because if you aren't, you missed my point entirely. I'm saying there's nothing wrong with her genes, she's just frustrated. Therefore, if someone was just frustrated with their computer or car and there was nothing wrong with it, they may have possibly called it stupid or crappy or whatever in the past with no reason for a new one, it was just words of frustration.
The way to deal with frustration over something you cannot change is to accept it and get over it. Once she accepts it, then she won't place blame there and will likely be a happier person.0 -
Genetics blah!!! There is not a petite person in my family!! However know what they ALL have that I do not?!?!? A freaking set of boobs!! Real boobs not ant mounds
I have had two pregnancies - singleton and twins...I have worn the same cup size bra since high school! Pregnancies making no difference. But you know what was one of the first things on my body to lose fat (that I did not even know I had any to lose) Thats right...the boobs!!:sad: If and when the ladies in my family lose weight...they keep their boobs! I get their hip and thighs why not the chest?!?!?!?
Now...I am doing squats and lunges to try and save what is left of my *kitten* which BTW used to be my best feature!!
On a positive note: with hard work and dedication...I have the best body in our family now :blushing: Keep working at it - you will get to a point that makes you happy if you do not give up. As a woman..there "may" always be a part of your body you dis like...we after all are very critical of ourselves. Just be proud of how far you have come..not how far you have to go!0 -
The amount of simplistic whining based on genetics in this thread is disgusting.
Try having a TRUE genetic disorder like an autoimmune disease or cancer- then complain about your bra straps making your back look fat.0 -
My goodness, reading comprehension goes a long way. She's not making excuses. She's frustrated with certain parts of her body. If she was making excuses, she'd be saying "I'm not working out anymore, crap genetics." Did she? No. I friggin hate that my back is holding on to the extra fat for dear life. How is that making an excuse? How did any of you pass English? And furthermore, you should never be hateful or rude to someone you have never met, because you do not know their life story. Every single person has their own personal problems that none of us know nothing about.
I'm going to proudly say that my back is fat, and it looks weird with the rest of my body, and I'm doing everything I can to make it go away, but SOME DAYS IT FEELS LIKE IT ISN'T. And if some of you are defining it as an excuse for something I'm not aware of, then I guess I'm in the wrong thread. But last time I checked, it was 'motivation and support'
The OP said in her opening line: "We all know genetics play a big role in weight loss/muscle gain. I can definitely say I've got crappy genetics because I'm not losing fat where I would like! "
How many ways can be interpreted?
Pointing out the reality that you can't lose fat where you would like to isn't rude, it's truth.
But here's a happy unicorn, for "motivation and support"
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The amount of simplistic whining based on genetics in this thread is disgusting.
Try having a TRUE genetic disorder like an autoimmune disease or cancer- then complain about your bra straps making your back look fat.
You didn't read the entire thread, did you......?0 -
The amount of simplistic whining based on genetics in this thread is disgusting.
Try having a TRUE genetic disorder like an autoimmune disease or cancer- then complain about your bra straps making your back look fat.
You didn't read the entire thread, did you......?
I did, thank you. I gear that towards those wining about crap genetics not letting them lose fat where they would like. There are some people in here with a voice of reason, and I thank them for that.
Speaking as someone who has true genetic disorders, it's frustrating to see whining about things that aren't true problems in the scope of reality. I see that you understand that, but it ruffles my feathers a bit when people are so vanity driven and do not put any further thought into the things they are saying.0 -
My goodness, reading comprehension goes a long way. She's not making excuses. She's frustrated with certain parts of her body. If she was making excuses, she'd be saying "I'm not working out anymore, crap genetics." Did she? No. I friggin hate that my back is holding on to the extra fat for dear life. How is that making an excuse? How did any of you pass English? And furthermore, you should never be hateful or rude to someone you have never met, because you do not know their life story. Every single person has their own personal problems that none of us know nothing about.
I'm going to proudly say that my back is fat, and it looks weird with the rest of my body, and I'm doing everything I can to make it go away, but SOME DAYS IT FEELS LIKE IT ISN'T. And if some of you are defining it as an excuse for something I'm not aware of, then I guess I'm in the wrong thread. But last time I checked, it was 'motivation and support'
The OP said in her opening line: "We all know genetics play a big role in weight loss/muscle gain. I can definitely say I've got crappy genetics because I'm not losing fat where I would like! "
How many ways can be interpreted?
Pointing out the reality that you can't lose fat where you would like to isn't rude, it's truth.
But here's a happy unicorn, for "motivation and support"
Perfect post is perfect.0 -
The amount of simplistic whining based on genetics in this thread is disgusting.
Try having a TRUE genetic disorder like an autoimmune disease or cancer- then complain about your bra straps making your back look fat.
You didn't read the entire thread, did you......?
I did, thank you. I gear that towards those wining about crap genetics not letting them lose fat where they would like. There are some people in here with a voice of reason, and I thank them for that.
Speaking as someone who has true genetic disorders, it's frustrating to see whining about things that aren't true problems in the scope of reality.
It's pretty blanket to just post what you did at the end of the thread when some others of us who do have auto immune diseases and cancer did post about that very thing in the middle of the thread. Your particular post did not address that at all, just the people who posted about genetics and weight.0 -
The amount of simplistic whining based on genetics in this thread is disgusting.
Try having a TRUE genetic disorder like an autoimmune disease or cancer- then complain about your bra straps making your back look fat.
You didn't read the entire thread, did you......?
I did, thank you. I gear that towards those wining about crap genetics not letting them lose fat where they would like. There are some people in here with a voice of reason, and I thank them for that.
Speaking as someone who has true genetic disorders, it's frustrating to see whining about things that aren't true problems in the scope of reality.
It's pretty blanket to just post what you did at the end of the thread when some others of us who do have auto immune diseases and cancer did post about that very thing in the middle of the thread. Your particular post did not address that at all, just the people who posted about genetics and weight.
I commented way back in the beginning as well sharing my own (real) issues with genetics. Following along with this thread just boosted the disgust factor.0 -
I am more upset that I am more carb sensitive than most people. Which seems to be genetic0
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The amount of simplistic whining based on genetics in this thread is disgusting.
Try having a TRUE genetic disorder like an autoimmune disease or cancer- then complain about your bra straps making your back look fat.
You didn't read the entire thread, did you......?
I did, thank you. I gear that towards those wining about crap genetics not letting them lose fat where they would like. There are some people in here with a voice of reason, and I thank them for that.
Speaking as someone who has true genetic disorders, it's frustrating to see whining about things that aren't true problems in the scope of reality.
It's pretty blanket to just post what you did at the end of the thread when some others of us who do have auto immune diseases and cancer did post about that very thing in the middle of the thread. Your particular post did not address that at all, just the people who posted about genetics and weight.
You two are saying the same thing, FFS. She isn't the only person who's made a redundant or generic point in a thread before and if someone couldn't figure out who she was addressing, well they lack some common sense.0 -
Nice excuse OP, but I hate to break it to you, you're not special, you're just not working as hard as you could. Stop looking for reasons as to why you can't be better, and just put in the work TO be better.
Rigger
Work at what, exactly? Lots of exercise to combat your overeating, or are your ancestors actually holding you down and shoving food in your mouth?
Meh... Rigger is like that.
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I have crap genetics. Family history of hypothyroidism, and many of the females in my family are short but broad across the shoulders (i'm 18" from shoulder tip to shoulder tip). I know I'll never really have the "long and lean" look since my ribcage is a little disporportionate to my height, but that won't stop me from getting healthy. I may be at a disadvantage, but that doesn't give me license to give up :-)0
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My goodness, reading comprehension goes a long way. She's not making excuses. She's frustrated with certain parts of her body. If she was making excuses, she'd be saying "I'm not working out anymore, crap genetics." Did she? No. I friggin hate that my back is holding on to the extra fat for dear life. How is that making an excuse? How did any of you pass English? And furthermore, you should never be hateful or rude to someone you have never met, because you do not know their life story. Every single person has their own personal problems that none of us know nothing about.
I'm going to proudly say that my back is fat, and it looks weird with the rest of my body, and I'm doing everything I can to make it go away, but SOME DAYS IT FEELS LIKE IT ISN'T. And if some of you are defining it as an excuse for something I'm not aware of, then I guess I'm in the wrong thread. But last time I checked, it was 'motivation and support'
The OP said in her opening line: "We all know genetics play a big role in weight loss/muscle gain. I can definitely say I've got crappy genetics because I'm not losing fat where I would like! "
How many ways can be interpreted?
Pointing out the reality that you can't lose fat where you would like to isn't rude, it's truth.
But here's a happy unicorn, for "motivation and support"
Uh, thanks for the happy unicorn I guess? That's not what I was saying, that telling her spot reducing can't happen. It's telling her that she's making up excuses and being entirely rude about it, as to not be allowed to ***** about something you don't like about yourself, and seeking others who may feel the same way or also feel the same frustrations. I mean, how hard is that to interpret? There are some really rude comments in here, and if you're going to deny that then that's okay, but denial can only go so far. 0 -
Cue the "I put something out there on the internet and got all kinds of responses that I didn't appreciate" music, and we'll see everyone over on the next "mean people" thread.0
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Cue the "I put something out there on the internet and got all kinds of responses that I didn't appreciate" music, and we'll see everyone over on the next "mean people" thread.
Yeah, you're right. I mean, how hard is it to be a decent human being and not just treat everyone as if they have nerves of steel? I mean, everyone can take everything with a grain of salt, everyone appreciates being judged and belittled for asking questions, seeking help, or finding people with the same problems as them. Not everyone expects an onslaught of people to show up with their pitchforks and end with "Deal with it, it's the internet, I have permission to be a complete turd because I can't physically see the emotion on your face and couldn't handle it in real life myself."
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I know, I was being fecetious.Nope. I have human genetics. If I had crap genetics I wouldn't be multicellular or able to type this. (And would probably be smelly.)
Have they sequenced the crap genome yet?
crap has no genome because it's not an organism (although the food eaten by the organism which produced the crap that is the topic of this discussion did have a genome...)
but :drinker: @ your post because it's great
(Rim shot.)
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Cue the "I put something out there on the internet and got all kinds of responses that I didn't appreciate" music, and we'll see everyone over on the next "mean people" thread.
Yeah, you're right. I mean, how hard is it to be a decent human being and not just treat everyone as if they have nerves of steel? I mean, everyone can take everything with a grain of salt, everyone appreciates being judged and belittled for asking questions, seeking help, or finding people with the same problems as them. Not everyone expects an onslaught of people to show up with their pitchforks and end with "Deal with it, it's the internet, I have permission to be a complete turd because I can't physically see the emotion on your face and couldn't handle it in real life myself."
k.
Um... first you say that we don't have reading comprehension.
But WE are the rude ones.
This OP that you are so defending is complaining about her "crap genetics" when in reality, she doesn't have "crap genetics", just a bad body image.
And frankly, *I* (among others) am offended that she would consider not being able to spot reduce as having "crap genetics" when so many of us have ACTUAL "crap genetics".
And I think that YOU are the mean one for being supportive of that.
So... enjoy your unicorn ride.0 -
Yep...hate my genetics0
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Genetics ABSOLUTELY play a role in how you look - everyone who says they don't, a question for you... don't you know ANYONE who eats like crap, doesn't work out a second in their life, and stays skinnier/looks to be in better shape than you? Because I definitely know people who got a better deal, genetically, than me! No matter how much I watch what I eat, excercise or wish... I will never be taller than 5'3"... I will never have a longer torso, and a smaller ribcage... I will never have thick, wavy, beautiful hair. It doesn't mean I'm not good with who I am, it's just reality. Everyone can only try to be THEIR best... but sometimes it is frustrating when you look at those who have been genetically blessed. It just is.0
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Genetics ABSOLUTELY play a role in how you look - everyone who says they don't, a question for you... don't you know ANYONE who eats like crap, doesn't work out a second in their life, and stays skinnier/looks to be in better shape than you? Because I definitely know people who got a better deal, genetically, than me! No matter how much I watch what I eat, excercise or wish... I will never be taller than 5'3"... I will never have a longer torso, and a smaller ribcage... I will never have thick, wavy, beautiful hair. It doesn't mean I'm not good with who I am, it's just reality. Everyone can only try to be THEIR best... but sometimes it is frustrating when you look at those who have been genetically blessed. It just is.
Most of those people you mention in the bolded section have very active jobs, move more than you would estimate or eat less than you would estimate.0 -
Cue the "I put something out there on the internet and got all kinds of responses that I didn't appreciate" music, and we'll see everyone over on the next "mean people" thread.
Yeah, you're right. I mean, how hard is it to be a decent human being and not just treat everyone as if they have nerves of steel? I mean, everyone can take everything with a grain of salt, everyone appreciates being judged and belittled for asking questions, seeking help, or finding people with the same problems as them. Not everyone expects an onslaught of people to show up with their pitchforks and end with "Deal with it, it's the internet, I have permission to be a complete turd because I can't physically see the emotion on your face and couldn't handle it in real life myself."
k.
Um... first you say that we don't have reading comprehension.
But WE are the rude ones.
This OP that you are so defending is complaining about her "crap genetics" when in reality, she doesn't have "crap genetics", just a bad body image.
And frankly, *I* (among others) am offended that she would consider not being able to spot reduce as having "crap genetics" when so many of us have ACTUAL "crap genetics".
And I think that YOU are the mean one for being supportive of that.
So... enjoy your unicorn ride.
Perhaps I said things in the heat of the moment (reading comprehension) but that is weak in comparison to the many comments made towards OP in general. Whether it be her logic, her exercise habits, her eating habits, whatever, that have all been gathered from a single post. I'm hardly mean for being supportive of OP, I suffer from anxiety and one of my triggers is my weight and how my body looks. It's almost crippling to face it every day, and I feel sad that there are people out there who feel like me, or are becoming that person. Showing empathy to someone because they feel ****ty about their body, even though they work out, is not being a bad person. Kicking someone when they're down is a bad person. Comparing your life situations to theirs, having not known them at all, is being a bad person. Sure, some people actually have genetic issues, but to tell someone that they feel less than you is terrible. There is always something that is going on in someones life, and saying that their feelings/thoughts aren't validated because you have it worse, is bad.0 -
Cue the "I put something out there on the internet and got all kinds of responses that I didn't appreciate" music, and we'll see everyone over on the next "mean people" thread.
Yeah, you're right. I mean, how hard is it to be a decent human being and not just treat everyone as if they have nerves of steel? I mean, everyone can take everything with a grain of salt, everyone appreciates being judged and belittled for asking questions, seeking help, or finding people with the same problems as them. Not everyone expects an onslaught of people to show up with their pitchforks and end with "Deal with it, it's the internet, I have permission to be a complete turd because I can't physically see the emotion on your face and couldn't handle it in real life myself."
k.
For one, I don't think anyone was purposely being a turd. They were offering THEIR perspective. I have had this same "genetics" conversation with someone in real life who dreams of fitting into size 8 pants, however her hip bones are just too wide. It is never going to happen. She dieted down to a healthy weight and body fat %, but she will never fit in a size 8, she is a size 10. I pointed out reality to her too, accept it, you can't change it, just because you are not a size 8 doesn't mean that you are not thin, healthy, beautiful, valued.
The OP's subject title of the thread says "does anyone else have crap genetics?" And many people came in this thread, having real genetic health problems, and saw the whole thing was complaining about her body type. Could it possibly be that some of these people felt a little offended, that this thread makes light of their situation, that it was a little rude? I'm sure the OP didn't mean to come off that way. But there it is. The most helpful thing people could do was to point out reality.0 -
Genetics ABSOLUTELY play a role in how you look - everyone who says they don't, a question for you... don't you know ANYONE who eats like crap, doesn't work out a second in their life, and stays skinnier/looks to be in better shape than you? Because I definitely know people who got a better deal, genetically, than me! No matter how much I watch what I eat, excercise or wish... I will never be taller than 5'3"... I will never have a longer torso, and a smaller ribcage... I will never have thick, wavy, beautiful hair. It doesn't mean I'm not good with who I am, it's just reality. Everyone can only try to be THEIR best... but sometimes it is frustrating when you look at those who have been genetically blessed. It just is.
Most of those people you mention in the bolded section have very active jobs, move more than you would estimate or eat less than you would estimate.
"some" not most....My best friend is thin as a rail and is the laziest person I know!!! Doesn't work - nor does she cook or clean. I call her Princess!! She has been a size 0 since middle school - had two kids and is still thin as a rail. Genetics - her Mother, her twin and a quarter of her family are the same....
Disagree all you want however genetics DO sometimes play a role in this. I have twin girls myself - one takes after my family to the max right down to looks the other either a mix or solely her Dads - SOLID as a rock since birth. Again genetics! Doesn't mean she will always be over weight & thick looking- just means she has to work a lot harder than her sister.0 -
Cue the "I put something out there on the internet and got all kinds of responses that I didn't appreciate" music, and we'll see everyone over on the next "mean people" thread.
Yeah, you're right. I mean, how hard is it to be a decent human being and not just treat everyone as if they have nerves of steel? I mean, everyone can take everything with a grain of salt, everyone appreciates being judged and belittled for asking questions, seeking help, or finding people with the same problems as them. Not everyone expects an onslaught of people to show up with their pitchforks and end with "Deal with it, it's the internet, I have permission to be a complete turd because I can't physically see the emotion on your face and couldn't handle it in real life myself."
k.
Um... first you say that we don't have reading comprehension.
But WE are the rude ones.
This OP that you are so defending is complaining about her "crap genetics" when in reality, she doesn't have "crap genetics", just a bad body image.
And frankly, *I* (among others) am offended that she would consider not being able to spot reduce as having "crap genetics" when so many of us have ACTUAL "crap genetics".
And I think that YOU are the mean one for being supportive of that.
So... enjoy your unicorn ride.
Perhaps I said things in the heat of the moment (reading comprehension) but that is weak in comparison to the many comments made towards OP in general. Whether it be her logic, her exercise habits, her eating habits, whatever, that have all been gathered from a single post. I'm hardly mean for being supportive of OP, I suffer from anxiety and one of my triggers is my weight and how my body looks. It's almost crippling to face it every day, and I feel sad that there are people out there who feel like me, or are becoming that person. Showing empathy to someone because they feel ****ty about their body, even though they work out, is not being a bad person. Kicking someone when they're down is a bad person. Comparing your life situations to theirs, having not known them at all, is being a bad person. Sure, some people actually have genetic issues, but to tell someone that they feel less than you is terrible. There is always something that is going on in someones life, and saying that their feelings/thoughts aren't validated because you have it worse, is bad.
Monstergirl may be the most sensible person on MFP. OP posted on the motivation & support board because she wanted to vent her frustration and see if anyone else was feeling the same way. She did not post on a Genetic Disorders message board because she is not trying to say she has a diagnosable genetic-related medical condition. Forums cannot work as they are intended if the people who need/want to use them must be in fear of getting flamed by overly-sensitive internet trolls.0
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