large or small breakfast to lose weight?
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If you go more than 4 hours without food then your blood sugar will drop which in turn drops your metabolism. If your metabolism is low then your body won't burn calories.
That's not true. Also, your body burns calories just being alive... Unless after the 4 hour Window. ..zombies
I have to disagree because it's not the point that your body burns calories. The point is it will burn slow and will not burn enough to lose weight.
Then I must be a mutant because I go well over 4 hours without eating ALL the time and lost 50 lbs doing so. My key was staying in my calorie limits.
Well you must be a mutant then because I stand by my experience as well. If anyone cares to research then they would find most health experts do not recommend going more than 4 hours without food, especially if a person wants to lost weight. In order to lose in a healthy manner, metabolism must be up. In order for that to happen, the blood sugar level must be balanced. In order for that to happen, a person should each healthy at regular intervals throughout the day. I have lost 45lbs doing it this way on Sparkpeople.com and 5 lbs since joing this board again.
The only correlation I can see is by spacing your meals out this way, it is preferable for you and helps you adhere to your diet. That's great, I'm happy for you but there are other ways in which people sustain their hunger levels. This is very personal. There's tons of people who practice intermittent fasting and they also lose well. The point being, do what works for you.
The correlation is not just in spacing your meals. It also relates to the type of weight a person loses as well - water, fat, and muscle mass. Losing weight is not the issue. Losing fat and maintaining a health weight are the goals here. Furthermore, you don't know if those "tons" of people who practice intermittent fasting are losing well or healthy just because they are losing weight. The same point could be stated to you. You do whatever floats your boat as well!
What about sleep? Do you wake up every 4 hours to eat?
Also, my gains are doing just fine, thanks for asking though. Macro ratios come into play for body comp, btw. Many bodybuilders practice IF0 -
I hate breakfast foods (except bacon!), and I cannot bring myself to eat anything in the morning. I do have a large glass of water and a couple cups of coffee though. Like pp's said before me, I don't think it matters when you eat or what you eat, as long as your calories and macros are eaten at the end of the day.0
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If you go more than 4 hours without food then your blood sugar will drop which in turn drops your metabolism. If your metabolism is low then your body won't burn calories.
That's not true. Also, your body burns calories just being alive... Unless after the 4 hour Window. ..zombies
I have to disagree because it's not the point that your body burns calories. The point is it will burn slow and will not burn enough to lose weight.
Then I must be a mutant because I go well over 4 hours without eating ALL the time and lost 50 lbs doing so. My key was staying in my calorie limits.
Well you must be a mutant then because I stand by my experience as well. If anyone cares to research then they would find most health experts do not recommend going more than 4 hours without food, especially if a person wants to lost weight. In order to lose in a healthy manner, metabolism must be up. In order for that to happen, the blood sugar level must be balanced. In order for that to happen, a person should each healthy at regular intervals throughout the day. I have lost 45lbs doing it this way on Sparkpeople.com and 5 lbs since joing this board again.
The only correlation I can see is by spacing your meals out this way, it is preferable for you and helps you adhere to your diet. That's great, I'm happy for you but there are other ways in which people sustain their hunger levels. This is very personal. There's tons of people who practice intermittent fasting and they also lose well. The point being, do what works for you.
The correlation is not just in spacing your meals. It also relates to the type of weight a person loses as well - water, fat, and muscle mass. Losing weight is not the issue. Losing fat and maintaining a health weight are the goals here. Furthermore, you don't know if those "tons" of people who practice intermittent fasting are losing well or healthy just because they are losing weight. The same point could be stated to you. You do whatever floats your boat as well!
What about sleep? Do you wake up every 4 hours to eat?
Also, my gains are doing just fine, thanks for asking though. Macro ratios come into play for body comp, btw. Many bodybuilders practice IF
Considering your body needs about 8 hours of sleep in order to process the food intake, exercise and water, my answer is no.
Good for you but it doesn't change the facts from the experts who are educated and practice health management for a living.
BTW - Many bodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles nor do I want to be or look like a bodybuilder. Therefore, if that is your point of reference then I'll pass.0 -
Considering your body needs about 8 hours of sleep in order to process the food intake, exercise and water, my answer is no.
Good for you but it doesn't change the facts from the experts who are educated and practice health management for a living.
BTW - Many bodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles nor do I want to be or look like a bodybuilder. Therefore, if that is your point of reference then I'll pass.
Many people in general practice unhealthy lifestyles, so that point is moot.
You don't have to want to look like a body builder, my point being is they build muscle (which is difficult to do with bad health practices) and achieve great feats by being health conscious. health and fitness is about feeding your body the right nutrients and training to achieve your goals, which is what many people do every single day eating in a timing that doesn't fit your very close minded view.0 -
Considering your body needs about 8 hours of sleep in order to process the food intake, exercise and water, my answer is no.
Good for you but it doesn't change the facts from the experts who are educated and practice health management for a living.
BTW - Many bodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles nor do I want to be or look like a bodybuilder. Therefore, if that is your point of reference then I'll pass.
Many people in general practice unhealthy lifestyles, so that point is moot.
You don't have to want to look like a body builder, my point being is they build muscle (which is difficult to do with bad health practices) and achieve great feats by being health conscious. health and fitness is about feeding your body the right nutrients and training to achieve your goals, which is what many people do every single day eating in a timing that doesn't fit your very close minded view.
If the point is moot then why did you bring it up? I couldn't care less about the manner in which body builders formulate their deformed nasty looking bodies unhealthy bodies. Their methods are not healthly at all. Like I previously stated, if that's your point of reference then knock yourself out. I will continue to follow the advice of medical and health professionals who have invested years in the business and not those of bodybuilders. If this makes me a close minded person then I wear it proudly.0 -
If you go more than 4 hours without food then your blood sugar will drop which in turn drops your metabolism. If your metabolism is low then your body won't burn calories. There is a lot of truth to that saying about breakfast being the most important meal of the day. Breakfast or lack of sets you up for the rest of the day. Breakfast doesn't have to be big. A granola bar with light yogurt works. A mini-bagel with yogurt or fruit and granola or bar also works. Grab a protein bar with fruit. This will curve your hunger throughout the day. You could buy these items beforehand and grab and go in the morning.
Meal timing, size and frequency has little to no effect on weight loss (read: so minute it doesn't matter). Thermic Effect of Food (TEF) is the smallest determining variable when it comes to metabolism.Since you speak of your experience, how do you explain weight loss from intermittent fasting?
Bottom line, burn more calories then you consume. How and when you do it is pretty much irrelevant in weight loss. Law of biological thermodymics.0 -
Considering your body needs about 8 hours of sleep in order to process the food intake, exercise and water, my answer is no.
Good for you but it doesn't change the facts from the experts who are educated and practice health management for a living.
BTW - Many bodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles nor do I want to be or look like a bodybuilder. Therefore, if that is your point of reference then I'll pass.
Many people in general practice unhealthy lifestyles, so that point is moot.
You don't have to want to look like a body builder, my point being is they build muscle (which is difficult to do with bad health practices) and achieve great feats by being health conscious. health and fitness is about feeding your body the right nutrients and training to achieve your goals, which is what many people do every single day eating in a timing that doesn't fit your very close minded view.
If the point is moot then why did you bring it up? I couldn't care less about the manner in which body builders formulate their deformed nasty looking bodies unhealthy bodies. Their methods are not healthly at all. Like I previously stated, if that's your point of reference then knock yourself out. I will continue to follow the advice of medical and health professionals who have invested years in the business and not those of bodybuilders. If this makes me a close minded person then I wear it proudly.
The moot point: You brought it up, dear. Not me. I feel like there's no longer an intelligent discussion to be had at this point. I leave you with this
and my disgusting avi.0 -
If you go more than 4 hours without food then your blood sugar will drop which in turn drops your metabolism. If your metabolism is low then your body won't burn calories. There is a lot of truth to that saying about breakfast being the most important meal of the day. Breakfast or lack of sets you up for the rest of the day. Breakfast doesn't have to be big. A granola bar with light yogurt works. A mini-bagel with yogurt or fruit and granola or bar also works. Grab a protein bar with fruit. This will curve your hunger throughout the day. You could buy these items beforehand and grab and go in the morning.
I very much doubt most people get up twice in the night to eat something so they don't go more than 4 hours without food, thereby (according to you, RUINING their metabolism). Please, just don't.
OP, eat the kind of breakfast you want (or none), if it fits into your daily allotment and it makes you feel good. We need food to live, but we are allowed to enjoy eating it too.0 -
If you go more than 4 hours without food then your blood sugar will drop which in turn drops your metabolism. If your metabolism is low then your body won't burn calories. There is a lot of truth to that saying about breakfast being the most important meal of the day. Breakfast or lack of sets you up for the rest of the day. Breakfast doesn't have to be big. A granola bar with light yogurt works. A mini-bagel with yogurt or fruit and granola or bar also works. Grab a protein bar with fruit. This will curve your hunger throughout the day. You could buy these items beforehand and grab and go in the morning.
Meal timing, size and frequency has little to no effect on weight loss (read: so minute it doesn't matter). Thermic Effect of Food (TEF) is the smallest determining variable when it comes to metabolism.Since you speak of your experience, how do you explain weight loss from intermittent fasting?
Bottom line, burn more calories then you consume. How and when you do it is pretty much irrelevant in weight loss. Law of biological thermodymics.
I don't agree with your assessment because size and timing of meals have much to do with healthy weight loss?
My "experience" led me to believe there are various weight loss methods, not all are healthy. One more time! The point isn't whether or not weight loss is achieve, rather if healthy weight loss is achieved through the method a person chose (i.e. intermittent fasting).0 -
Duly noted.If this makes me a close minded person then I wear it proudly.
By the way, the body shaming of bodybuilders is a nice touch too.
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Considering your body needs about 8 hours of sleep in order to process the food intake, exercise and water, my answer is no.
Good for you but it doesn't change the facts from the experts who are educated and practice health management for a living.
BTW - Many bodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles nor do I want to be or look like a bodybuilder. Therefore, if that is your point of reference then I'll pass.
Many people in general practice unhealthy lifestyles, so that point is moot.
You don't have to want to look like a body builder, my point being is they build muscle (which is difficult to do with bad health practices) and achieve great feats by being health conscious. health and fitness is about feeding your body the right nutrients and training to achieve your goals, which is what many people do every single day eating in a timing that doesn't fit your very close minded view.
If the point is moot then why did you bring it up? I couldn't care less about the manner in which body builders formulate their deformed nasty looking bodies unhealthy bodies. Their methods are not healthly at all. Like I previously stated, if that's your point of reference then knock yourself out. I will continue to follow the advice of medical and health professionals who have invested years in the business and not those of bodybuilders. If this makes me a close minded person then I wear it proudly.
In for obese people body shaming bodybuilders.0 -
If you go more than 4 hours without food then your blood sugar will drop which in turn drops your metabolism. If your metabolism is low then your body won't burn calories. There is a lot of truth to that saying about breakfast being the most important meal of the day. Breakfast or lack of sets you up for the rest of the day. Breakfast doesn't have to be big. A granola bar with light yogurt works. A mini-bagel with yogurt or fruit and granola or bar also works. Grab a protein bar with fruit. This will curve your hunger throughout the day. You could buy these items beforehand and grab and go in the morning.
Meal timing, size and frequency has little to no effect on weight loss (read: so minute it doesn't matter). Thermic Effect of Food (TEF) is the smallest determining variable when it comes to metabolism.Since you speak of your experience, how do you explain weight loss from intermittent fasting?
Bottom line, burn more calories then you consume. How and when you do it is pretty much irrelevant in weight loss. Law of biological thermodymics.
I don't agree with your assessment because size and timing of meals have much to do with healthy weight loss?
My "experience" led me to believe there are various weight loss methods, not all are healthy. One more time! The point isn't whether or not weight loss is achieve, rather if healthy weight loss is achieved through the method a person chose (i.e. intermittent fasting).
So your "experience" gives you the foundational and scientific knowledge required to determine whether "healthy" weight loss can be achieved? So not eating breakfast, or not eating every 4 hours is unhealthy? How so? And what research have you done or read to come to this conclusion? Please post a link... hopefully not to Dr. Oz0 -
Considering your body needs about 8 hours of sleep in order to process the food intake, exercise and water, my answer is no.
Good for you but it doesn't change the facts from the experts who are educated and practice health management for a living.
BTW - Many bodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles nor do I want to be or look like a bodybuilder. Therefore, if that is your point of reference then I'll pass.
Many people in general practice unhealthy lifestyles, so that point is moot.
You don't have to want to look like a body builder, my point being is they build muscle (which is difficult to do with bad health practices) and achieve great feats by being health conscious. health and fitness is about feeding your body the right nutrients and training to achieve your goals, which is what many people do every single day eating in a timing that doesn't fit your very close minded view.
If the point is moot then why did you bring it up? I couldn't care less about the manner in which body builders formulate their deformed nasty looking bodies unhealthy bodies. Their methods are not healthly at all. Like I previously stated, if that's your point of reference then knock yourself out. I will continue to follow the advice of medical and health professionals who have invested years in the business and not those of bodybuilders. If this makes me a close minded person then I wear it proudly.
The only thing nasty around here is your attitude.0 -
Considering your body needs about 8 hours of sleep in order to process the food intake, exercise and water, my answer is no.
Good for you but it doesn't change the facts from the experts who are educated and practice health management for a living.
BTW - Many bodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles nor do I want to be or look like a bodybuilder. Therefore, if that is your point of reference then I'll pass.
Many people in general practice unhealthy lifestyles, so that point is moot.
You don't have to want to look like a body builder, my point being is they build muscle (which is difficult to do with bad health practices) and achieve great feats by being health conscious. health and fitness is about feeding your body the right nutrients and training to achieve your goals, which is what many people do every single day eating in a timing that doesn't fit your very close minded view.
If the point is moot then why did you bring it up? I couldn't care less about the manner in which body builders formulate their deformed nasty looking bodies unhealthy bodies. Their methods are not healthly at all. Like I previously stated, if that's your point of reference then knock yourself out. I will continue to follow the advice of medical and health professionals who have invested years in the business and not those of bodybuilders. If this makes me a close minded person then I wear it proudly.
The moot point: You brought it up, dear. Not me. I feel like there's no longer an intelligent discussion to be had at this point. I leave you with this
and my disgusting avi.
No, I did not bring the bodybuilders up first. You were the first to mentioned it and anyone who cares to see it could very way go back through the conversation and see it. I wasn't trying to cause trouble. My point was if you want to skip or prolong meals then have at it. My choice will always be to follow the advice of medical and health professional.0 -
Pro tip: Might want to avoid statements like "nasty looking deformed bodies" if you're not trying to cause trouble.I wasn't trying to cause trouble.0 -
Duly noted.If this makes me a close minded person then I wear it proudly.
By the way, the body shaming of bodybuilders is a nice touch too.
Some bodybuilders shame themselves!0 -
Pro tip: Might want to avoid statements like "nasty looking deformed bodies" if you're not trying to cause trouble.I wasn't trying to cause trouble.
I have a right to my opinions just like the rest of you. If I feel that the body builders I have seen looked that way then it's my right.0 -
Duly noted.If this makes me a close minded person then I wear it proudly.
By the way, the body shaming of bodybuilders is a nice touch too.
Some bodybuilders shame themselves!
Evidently, so do some posters on these forums.
Rigger0 -
Considering your body needs about 8 hours of sleep in order to process the food intake, exercise and water, my answer is no.
Good for you but it doesn't change the facts from the experts who are educated and practice health management for a living.
BTW - Many bodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles nor do I want to be or look like a bodybuilder. Therefore, if that is your point of reference then I'll pass.
Many people in general practice unhealthy lifestyles, so that point is moot.
You don't have to want to look like a body builder, my point being is they build muscle (which is difficult to do with bad health practices) and achieve great feats by being health conscious. health and fitness is about feeding your body the right nutrients and training to achieve your goals, which is what many people do every single day eating in a timing that doesn't fit your very close minded view.
If the point is moot then why did you bring it up? I couldn't care less about the manner in which body builders formulate their deformed nasty looking bodies unhealthy bodies. Their methods are not healthly at all. Like I previously stated, if that's your point of reference then knock yourself out. I will continue to follow the advice of medical and health professionals who have invested years in the business and not those of bodybuilders. If this makes me a close minded person then I wear it proudly.
The moot point: You brought it up, dear. Not me. I feel like there's no longer an intelligent discussion to be had at this point. I leave you with this
and my disgusting avi.
No, I did not bring the bodybuilders up first. You were the first to mentioned it and anyone who cares to see it could very way go back through the conversation and see it. I wasn't trying to cause trouble. My point was if you want to skip or prolong meals then have at it. My choice will always be to follow the advice of medical and health professional.
Hold up. Let me type this slowly.
You said you think bodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles. THIS is the moot point. Lots of people, not just bodybuilders can practice unhealthy lifestyles. Therefore, throwing around that boooodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles is moot. It's a better statement to say there are many different types of people who practice unhealthy lifestyles. Not all bodybuilders OR people practice unhealthy lifestyles. ... I can repeat unhealthy lifestyles one more time to make it clearer0 -
Considering your body needs about 8 hours of sleep in order to process the food intake, exercise and water, my answer is no.
Good for you but it doesn't change the facts from the experts who are educated and practice health management for a living.
BTW - Many bodybuilders practice unhealthy lifestyles nor do I want to be or look like a bodybuilder. Therefore, if that is your point of reference then I'll pass.
Many people in general practice unhealthy lifestyles, so that point is moot.
You don't have to want to look like a body builder, my point being is they build muscle (which is difficult to do with bad health practices) and achieve great feats by being health conscious. health and fitness is about feeding your body the right nutrients and training to achieve your goals, which is what many people do every single day eating in a timing that doesn't fit your very close minded view.
If the point is moot then why did you bring it up? I couldn't care less about the manner in which body builders formulate their deformed nasty looking bodies unhealthy bodies. Their methods are not healthly at all. Like I previously stated, if that's your point of reference then knock yourself out. I will continue to follow the advice of medical and health professionals who have invested years in the business and not those of bodybuilders. If this makes me a close minded person then I wear it proudly.
The only thing nasty around here is your attitude.
There isn't anything nasty about my attitude. Furthermore, if you don't like my posts then by all means don't read them.0
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