Logging Accurately..step by step guide

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  • dljones67
    dljones67 Posts: 88 Member
    Thank you so much for posting this. I'm new and learning so much from everyone's helpful suggestions.
  • Chabela53
    Chabela53 Posts: 130 Member
    As a newbie here, this info is great! There is much confusion on which choice is the best one.
  • aliciamariaq
    aliciamariaq Posts: 272 Member
    bump
  • JeffBrown3
    JeffBrown3 Posts: 161 Member
    edited September 2015
    It seems to me, that if MFP would give us the option of hiding user submitted entries, it would make life so much easier (with an option to see your own of course). I don't know if you can do that on the site, but I can't on the Android app.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    JeffBrown3 wrote: »
    It seems to me, that if MFP would give us the option of hiding user submitted entries, it would make life so much easier (with an option to see your own of course). I don't know if you can do that on the site, but I can't on the Android app.

    This is true and it has been suggested, but for some reason they won't do it.
  • drhelibhatt
    drhelibhatt Posts: 31 Member
    Thank you so much for the post!! Its awesome and very helpful...

    I have a slightly different question: I am from India, and so most of what I cook is Indian style (especially typical Gujarati style). A lot of things can be cooked so many different ways and so I always am confused. I try to cook it with least amount of oil and sugars and try to make my own recipes but it becomes very tedious as I cook too much variety. Is there a good resource to look up ethnic style foods for accurate calories and nutrient content??

    Anybody else cooking ethnic food and having trouble finding accurate nutritional info??
  • Coybean
    Coybean Posts: 2 Member
    Ive been on mfp for a long long loooooong time and I never realized this issue before. Thanks for the tips.
  • retirehappy
    retirehappy Posts: 4,756 Member
    Thank you so much for the post!! Its awesome and very helpful...

    I have a slightly different question: I am from India, and so most of what I cook is Indian style (especially typical Gujarati style). A lot of things can be cooked so many different ways and so I always am confused. I try to cook it with least amount of oil and sugars and try to make my own recipes but it becomes very tedious as I cook too much variety. Is there a good resource to look up ethnic style foods for accurate calories and nutrient content??

    Anybody else cooking ethnic food and having trouble finding accurate nutritional info??

    Best thing I have found is search for a recipe using google. If the ingredients match, I use MFP and put it into the recipe section, it gives the calories and other nutrition. Or I put my version of the dish into the old recipe creater tool, and it will give me the information. Neither is perfect, but better than a total guesstimate.
  • Ashyknucklez
    Ashyknucklez Posts: 4 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    What does “Logging Accurately” mean???? *warning long post*

    I have thought long and hard about this post as there have been a lot of discussions lately over logging accurately…that well have gotten a bit “heated”…

    That phrase “logging accurately” doesn’t mean just weighing your solids and measuring your liquids there are things involved. It involves logging everything. Every bite, lick and taste…choosing correct entries from the MFP database and therein lies a lot of the issues when it comes to “logging accurately”.

    When someone looks at your diary (if you allow it) and they see entries that are in cups or inches or that start with homemade or generic the automatic assumption is that you don’t weigh your food. Why? Because your entries do not reflect it…and you can debate it all you want…if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s a duck…and by that I mean you are not logging accurately…you might weigh but you are not logging it accurately. You can’t weigh your chicken for 100g and log it as 1cup or 1 breast as those calories probably don’t equate to the calories in 100g. You could be cheating yourself out of calories or under estimating calories, both of which are not good.

    So in order to aid those new to this site or even those who aren’t new but are new to the kitchen scale I thought this post might help.

    *I will try to keep this short and sweet but in order to cover all aspects of logging it might get long…but no worries there are pictures….

    Tabs when adding to your diary

    As you can see by this SS you have a few tabs (Recent, Frequent, My foods, Meals, Recipes) These are all useful and make logging accurately easier. You can save “meals” and add your own recipes which help with logging accurately. My foods tab is where you have added your own data or edited an existing entry (to be covered later). Get familiar with the functions in your diary they are all there to help you be more accurate.

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    Searching for correct entries

    As you search for correct entries it can be difficult to find them. The key for this is this…the actual name will be as you see in the SS, nothing in front of the text…no words like Generic, homemade or an asterisk. The confirmations are there as well…this particular entry has 2177 confirmations…chances are it’s correct or you have 2177 people just being mean…highly unlikely.

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    Entries that are not correct typically do not have confirmations, Start with an asterisk (*), the words generic or homemade…the drop down menu will not have very many options if any at all…note here in the SS no confirmations…and has odd serving sizes…3.9oz???

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    Note here the words “GENERIC” and “HOMEMADE”…Homemade could be anything these you do not want to use ever….ever…..ever.

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    Checking nutritional data

    This area of the entry can be seen by clicking the blue text “nutritional data” as seen in the SS above right below the confirmations. This is the only way to ensure the entry you are using is correct. When you click that link you are brought to a page like this….

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    As you can see there is a drop down menu for servings, and with this entry there are multiple servings available…my personal favorites are the ones in 100g (makes entering serving size of weighed food so much easier) and here you can see the text “Is this data correct?” with buttons to confirm, deny or say you don’t know. If it is correct based on your package etc. click yes…it is important that the confirmations are done to ensure others know it’s correct too. If you know it’s not correct you can click “NO”.

    You will then see this screen.

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    Now you can edit this entry. I do this quite frequently as I often cannot find an entry for items that do not have the words Generic and homemade or an asterisk in front of them. When you do this, it now shows up in the tab (mentioned in the first paragraph) “MY FOODS”

    Edit to Existing Entries

    After clicking “Edit” this screen pops up.

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    You can change anything you want in here. The Brand/Restaurant, Description, nutrition facts, serving size etc. so that it is correct based on what you see on the package/website. *I often will end the description with my initials SCW so I know that it is my entry when searching in the database*

    After you have done all that ensure you go to the bottom and explain the changes. I often just type per pkg. or per website, then click save.

    Finding correct nutrition without a package

    This too can be daunting at first. Google is your friend. Websites for the restaurants can often be found, and if you are lucky you can “build” your meal and get the exact calorie content which can then be added to the MFP database as described above. Or if it is at home google “Calories in ________________” and often times this will be displayed (I used chicken for this SS)

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    As you can see there is an area in the top left hand side along with information along the right hand side. The source for this data is the USDA website. You can see that below the larger box with 306 calories and if you click that link you are taken directly to the USDA website for that food.

    If however you wish to just go to that site and search for you food here is the link

    http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list

    Another good site for information is

    http://nutritiondata.self.com/

    The only other things to note about logging accurately are as follows:

    Ensure the entry you chose reflects cooked or uncooked depending on when you weighed the food. I personally cannot weigh uncooked as I cook for 3 typically so I search for items that indicate “cooked” and how it was cooked…broiled grilled panfried etc. This is doubly important for pastas, rice and potatoes.

    As well ensure that the entry reflects what you are eating. If you are eating chicken breast meat log chicken breast meat, if you are eating baked potatoes, log baked potatoes not boiled/fried etc.

    In conclusion logging accurately is one of the most important keys to keeping in goal with calories therefore losing weight. It may seem silly or a lot of work to weigh your food, spend a couple minutes looking for the correct entry and if you can’t find it going through the trouble of making one…but in the end if you don’t you are only cheating yourself. Once the work is done (esp for frequently eaten foods) it’s done and you just have to go to your entry and use it as you know it’s correct.

    I hope this helps at least one person…

    PS if I have missed anything please feel free to add it in…the goal here is to help as much as possible.

    edited for SS Size.

  • Ashyknucklez
    Ashyknucklez Posts: 4 Member
    Thanks, for the post. I'm new to the program, and have a lot to learn.
  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    Bump to keep this going. Great info here
  • bethus87
    bethus87 Posts: 1 Member
    katro111 wrote: »
    Very helpful! I've been using MFP for a while and didn't realize you could edit food entries and they'd pop into the My Foods tab (I was adding a whole new entry based on a food package just so I could get an entry with an accurate weight or I would weigh my food and give up on finding an entry with a weight in ounces or grams and just use the asterisk entry as long if the weight of my food matched the calorie content on the entry).

  • lore11a
    lore11a Posts: 166 Member
    Bump
  • jodidari
    jodidari Posts: 95 Member
    Thank you (:
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
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    Bumping for visibility.
  • tatt13
    tatt13 Posts: 9 Member
    Very helpful. I do not weigh my stuff but I do measure it out. Most of the stuff I use I will use Google to convert it. It may not be perfect, but i do admit when I am in doubt I add and not subtract. So I may actually eat less calories than I log. My goal though here is not to be role model just to make myself accountable for what put in my mouth. I may be hurting myself though. I just so not always have time to weigh everything, just to be honest.

    Thank you for the great advice though will try it.
  • javabean161
    javabean161 Posts: 10 Member
    A really useful post and thank you for taking the time to write it up.

    I want to draw special attention to checking the nutritional values in the MFP data base which more often than not are in fact incorrect when I'm looking at the nutritional label on the product packaging. So I highly recommend checking the nutritional values to make sure it is correct against what the nutritional values are on the product package.
  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    Bump!! All the newcomers should see this !
  • Hearts_2015
    Hearts_2015 Posts: 12,031 Member
    edited December 2015
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    Bump!! All the newcomers should see this !

    I love it every time it's bumped and I'm not new... glad you bumped it again @thorsmom01 ;)

    It's a very helpful thread!! @SezxyStef Thanks so much for taking time out to put it together for everyone!
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    Hump day, bump day.
  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    This time of year , this thread deserves another bump ! Lots of newcomers are not using food scales so this would be helpful to them !
  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    @ejhankle here it is !!!
  • Wiseandcurious
    Wiseandcurious Posts: 730 Member
    Bump
  • WCCmommy
    WCCmommy Posts: 9 Member
    Bump
  • LoriReedy912
    LoriReedy912 Posts: 1 Member
    @SezxyStef
    Thank you for the time it took you to write this post, very helpful, in deed! It explains some questions I've had about the logging of foods. I am new to Fitbit ChargeHR syncing to My Fitness Pal...this blog seems like be helpful for questions that will arise. Again, appreciate the helpfulness of this blog.
  • d14u2006
    d14u2006 Posts: 1 Member
    edited January 2016
    I am having a hard time following any diet. I feel sometimes that I can't stop eating even if I am not hungry. Any suggestions? How can I curb my appetite?
  • Fiftyls2looz
    Fiftyls2looz Posts: 45 Member
    edited February 2016
    I think MFP should change the format of the site so that your not bombarded with lots of different options. So for eg say - chicken breast, it should just be:

    In grams only (forever eliminate cups)
    Pan fried, Deep Fried, baked, braised,boiled, stewed,grilled,steamed etc

    THAT'S IT.

    AND the same method with other foods like fruits, dairy etc. That would be so helpful.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    I think MFP should change the format of the site so that your not bombarded with lots of different options. So for eg say - chicken breast, it should just be:

    In grams only (forever eliminate cups)
    Pan fried, Deep Fried, baked, braised,boiled, stewed,grilled,steamed etc

    THAT'S IT.

    AND the same method with other foods like fruits, dairy etc. That would be so helpful.

    I agree...if users want their own entries let them but don't put it in the database for all to see...use USDA website to update the database.

    If I could be guaranteed the only entries I would see were usda plus what I entered I would pay for premium.
  • mollieb76
    mollieb76 Posts: 20 Member
    YES!!! Thank you!!! This is such great info for someone just becoming a faithful logger! :) Just one question...99% of the time I am logging on the AP...I don't think it has the confirmations...but it does have certain items with a green check. Are these items generally the most trustworthy?