Logging Accurately..step by step guide
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Strange enough, when I click NO on the Nutritional Data page, it doesn't give me a popup with ability to edit the information. What am I doing wrong?
If the food entry has a green check mark, meaning it has been "verified" by a computer algorithm and still could contain errors, only MFP staff can edit those types of database records.2 -
@CyberTone Thanks for your response. The entry has a green check mark so I guess that's the issue. Are you MFP staff, or how do we get this to their attention?
Quaker Instant Oatmeal Apples & Cinnamon is the item I had for breakfast this morning, and the numbers in MFP vary a bit from what's on the packet.
Barcode 0 30000 31684 9 for the assorted Flavor Variety pack.0 -
@CyberTone Thanks for your response. The entry has a green check mark so I guess that's the issue. Are you MFP staff, or how do we get this to their attention?
Quaker Instant Oatmeal Apples & Cinnamon is the item I had for breakfast this morning, and the numbers in MFP vary a bit from what's on the packet.
Barcode 0 30000 31684 9 for the assorted Flavor Variety pack.
Not staff, just a long-time member. You will have to open a Case with Customer Support and provide detailed changes that you request. It should help to submit a pic of the Nutrition Facts label, or the URL to the website to your Case.
https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/emails/new
Expect an immediate form email from Customer Support asking for irrelevant information. Be patient with them, they are the intermediaries between you and the database admins. Expect Customer Support to close the Case when they are done with it, but it will not necessarily be "closed" while the database admins work on it. You can always go back to the Case and re-open it to ask on the status.
Examples for changes to request:
Change Fiber from 1.0 to 1.5.
Change Potassium from N/A to 15.
Change Serving Size from 1/2 cup (130g) to 130g.1 -
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@CyberTone I got a response telling me how easy it is to Edit the entry myself. They obviously didn't read anything I said. Following up now.1
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What does “Logging Accurately” mean???? *warning long post*
I have thought long and hard about this post as there have been a lot of discussions lately over logging accurately…that well have gotten a bit “heated”…
That phrase “logging accurately” doesn’t mean just weighing your solids and measuring your liquids there are things involved. It involves logging everything. Every bite, lick and taste…choosing correct entries from the MFP database and therein lies a lot of the issues when it comes to “logging accurately”.
When someone looks at your diary (if you allow it) and they see entries that are in cups or inches or that start with homemade or generic the automatic assumption is that you don’t weigh your food. Why? Because your entries do not reflect it…and you can debate it all you want…if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s a duck…and by that I mean you are not logging accurately…you might weigh but you are not logging it accurately. You can’t weigh your chicken for 100g and log it as 1cup or 1 breast as those calories probably don’t equate to the calories in 100g. You could be cheating yourself out of calories or under estimating calories, both of which are not good.
So in order to aid those new to this site or even those who aren’t new but are new to the kitchen scale, I thought this post might help.
*I will try to keep this short and sweet but in order to cover all aspects of logging it might get long…but no worries there are pictures….
Tabs when adding to your diary
As you can see by this SS you have a few tabs (Recent, Frequent, My Foods, Meals, Recipes) These are all useful and make logging accurately easier. You can save “meals” and add your own recipes which help with logging accurately. My foods tab is where you have added your own data or edited an existing entry (to be covered later). Get familiar with the functions in your diary they are all there to help you be more accurate.
Searching for correct entries
As you search for correct entries it can be difficult to find them. The key for this is this…the actual name will be as you see in the SS, nothing in front of the text…no words like Generic, homemade or an asterisk. The confirmations are there as well…this particular entry has 2177 confirmations…chances are it’s correct or you have 2177 people just being mean…highly unlikely.
Entries that are not correct typically do not have confirmations, Start with an asterisk (*), the words generic or homemade…the drop down menu will not have very many options if any at all…note here in the SS no confirmations…and has odd serving sizes…3.9oz???
Note here the words “GENERIC” and “HOMEMADE”…Homemade could be anything these you do not want to use ever….ever…..ever.
Checking nutritional data
This area of the entry can be seen by clicking the blue text “nutritional data” as seen in the SS above right below the confirmations. This is the only way to ensure the entry you are using is correct. When you click that link you are brought to a page like this….
As you can see there is a drop down menu for servings, and with this entry, there are multiple servings available…my personal favorites are the ones in 100g (makes entering serving size of weighed food so much easier) and here you can see the text “Is this data correct?” with buttons to confirm, deny or say you don’t know. If it is correct based on your package etc. click yes…it is important that the confirmations are done to ensure others know it’s correct too. If you know it’s not correct you can click “NO”.
You will then see this screen.
Now you can edit this entry. I do this quite frequently as I often cannot find an entry for items that do not have the words Generic and homemade or an asterisk in front of them. When you do this, it now shows up in the tab (mentioned in the first paragraph) “MY FOODS”
Edit to Existing Entries
After clicking “Edit” this screen pops up.
You can change anything you want in here. The Brand/Restaurant, Description, nutrition facts, serving size etc. so that it is correct based on what you see on the package/website. *I often will end the description with my initials SCW so I know that it is my entry when searching in the database*
After you have done all that ensure you go to the bottom and explain the changes. I often just type per pkg. or per website, then click save.
Finding correct nutrition without a package
This too can be daunting at first. Google is your friend. Websites for the restaurants can often be found, and if you are lucky you can “build” your meal and get the exact calorie content which can then be added to the MFP database as described above. Or if it is at home google “Calories in ________________” and often times this will be displayed (I used chicken for this SS)
As you can see there is an area in the top left-hand side along with information along the right-hand side. The source for this data is the USDA website. You can see that below the larger box with 306 calories and if you click that link you are taken directly to the USDA website for that food.
If however, you wish to just go to that site and search for your food here is the link
http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list
Another good site for information is
http://nutritiondata.self.com/
The only other things to note about logging accurately are as follows:
Ensure the entry you chose reflects cooked or uncooked depending on when you weighed the food. I personally cannot weigh uncooked as I cook for 3 typically so I search for items that indicate “cooked” and how it was cooked…broiled grilled panfried etc. This is doubly important for pasta, rice, and potatoes.
As well ensure that the entry reflects what you are eating. If you are eating chicken breast meat log chicken breast meat, if you are eating baked potatoes, log baked potatoes not boiled/fried etc.
In conclusion, logging accurately is one of the most important keys to keeping in goal with calories, therefore, losing weight. It may seem silly or a lot of work to weigh your food, spend a couple minutes looking for the correct entry and if you can’t find it going through the trouble of making one…but in the end if you don’t you are only cheating yourself. Once the work is done (esp for frequently eaten foods) it’s done and you just have to go to your entry and use it as you know it’s correct.
I hope this helps at least one person…
PS if I have missed anything please feel free to add it in…the goal here is to help as much as possible.
edited for SS Size.
Thank you. Found this really helpful. I have identified areas where I have gone wrong. Will definitely start writing down everything, will weigh my protein, pasta ie not guess amounts. This has been a real wakeup call.5 -
@Elaine352962 Thanks for bringing that reference up again. A very helpful link for all of us.
This thread tends to get buried and forgotten sometimes.1 -
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Someone recommended this thread for reading and I have found it very helpful! There are many times when I thought I was doing it right...but maybe not. I usually just pick the highest calorie entry because I have when I get the auto response, "You are likely not eating enough!"1
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Bumping threads with fun gifs earns a negative woo, now? Carry on MFP. This is why I rarely bump anymore but the January crowd deserve to see some good info at the top of the boards this week.4 -
diannethegeek wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »
Bumping threads with fun gifs earns a negative woo, now? Carry on MFP. This is why I rarely bump anymore but the January crowd deserve to see some good info at the top of the boards this week.
Maybe someone doesn't like ... cats?? Party hats?? ... Umm ... ruled paper??0 -
Awesome gif. And another reason to bump this back to the top, for all the resolutioners out there. (I don't mean that in a bad way!)0
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A good read - start at first page.0
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Is there ever any new information, or just people bumping the thread to keep it alive??0
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Great thread
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I wish I knew. MFP should have a button for folks to select to report erroneous food info/data on a food in the data base.
You can edit the entry in the database to correct the information. If it's based on a bar code, it should correct that for the app as well.
The trick is finding the exact entry you're after so sometimes you'll need to add it in to your meal and then look it up and correct it.
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No need to report it. You can open it and edit it yourself, for the benefit of others.1 -
No need to report it. You can open it and edit it yourself, for the benefit of others.
Cool. Will do it next time.1
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