Why does everyone hate me? The forum Survival Guide.

kgeyser

Love it! I would add one more category:

Help Us Help You - Nothing brings out the butthurt like the posts where the OP only gives out tidbits of information. The OP gets upset that people aren't giving them the answer they are looking for, and the rest of the forum gets annoyed that we have to drag things out of you and you're arguing with us. Then it's all cat gifs and burning dumpsters.

1. Open your diary so people can help you. Tell us if you weigh and measure food. Include any special medical or dietary conditions in the OP so people don't spend five pages trying to give suggestions only to find out you have PCOS or a food allergy.

2. Be upfront about your resources. If you're asking for help with an exercise routine, tell people what you have available to you. It is incredibly frustrating to write out suggested workout plan only to have the person shoot down every suggestion because they think they need to recreate a gym in their basement to succeed. People here workout in gyms, outside, in their homes, and they find ways to do it morning, noon, after work, and even in the dead of night. They have everything from home gyms to a few dumbbells to no equipment at all. They make it work, and if you want it, so can you. Your arguments are invalid.

3. It really IS about the math. Yes, repeating this point from our wonderful OP, but it is. It doesn't matter what your HRM said you burned, how clean your food is, or how many hours of cardio you've done today. If you are not losing weight, you are not in a calorie deficit. The reason for that could be anything from underestimating food intake to a medical condition to overestimating calorie burn, but somewhere there a disturbance in the energy equation. Let people help you identify where the problem might be. Your numbers are going to change as you lose weight and you're going to need to tweak - it's normal. Don't sit there and argue. Your HRM and food labels are calorie estimates, not written in stone. You have to put in the time and look for trends to find your calorie sweet spot.

4. Think about what you want to say before you say it. If you don't want your post to turn into an epic train wreck, then find ways to ask for help without insulting other people. If you need food advice, tell us what you are looking for ("desserts with fruit") and not what you don't want ("bad" "unhealthy" "processed junk food" "crap food"). No one cares if you prefer fruit to chocolate; you don't need to belittle another person's food choices just because it isn't your thing. Same thing with exercise/body type. Say you want to cut fat and get muscle definition. Or just lose some weight and improve overall fitness. Post a picture of someone who has the body type you want. Find some way to convey your goal without labeling another body type as unattractive. Again, just because it's not your thing doesn't make it bad.

EvgeniZyntx

Search function is your friend.


And IN!

neandermagnon

Love it! I would add one more category:

Help Us Help You - Nothing brings out the butthurt like the posts where the OP only gives out tidbits of information. The OP gets upset that people aren't giving them the answer they are looking for, and the rest of the forum gets annoyed that we have to drag things out of you and you're arguing with us. Then it's all cat gifs and burning dumpsters.

and then there are those who take this whole concept up a whole level, who ask for advice but fail to mention that they have a medical condition that would mean that the general advice doesn't work for them, then gets butthurt because they're given advice that's suitable for the general population but isn't suitable for them and don't people know that someone with their medical condition shouldn't do that, and then when people say they should have mentioned the medical condition in the OP, they get butthurt again saying that they shouldn't have to post such personal information on a public website..... *facepalm*

zoeysasha37

Awesome post!!
(hopefully they read this before posting!)

malcolmjcooper

Well said love it

tennisdude2004

Love it! I would add one more category:

Help Us Help You - Nothing brings out the butthurt like the posts where the OP only gives out tidbits of information. The OP gets upset that people aren't giving them the answer they are looking for, and the rest of the forum gets annoyed that we have to drag things out of you and you're arguing with us. Then it's all cat gifs and burning dumpsters.

1. Open your diary so people can help you. Tell us if you weigh and measure food. Include any special medical or dietary conditions in the OP so people don't spend five pages trying to give suggestions only to find out you have PCOS or a food allergy.

2. Be upfront about your resources. If you're asking for help with an exercise routine, tell people what you have available to you. It is incredibly frustrating to write out suggested workout plan only to have the person shoot down every suggestion because they think they need to recreate a gym in their basement to succeed. People here workout in gyms, outside, in their homes, and they find ways to do it morning, noon, after work, and even in the dead of night. They have everything from home gyms to a few dumbbells to no equipment at all. They make it work, and if you want it, so can you. Your arguments are invalid.

3. It really IS about the math. Yes, repeating this point from our wonderful OP, but it is. It doesn't matter what your HRM said you burned, how clean your food is, or how many hours of cardio you've done today. If you are not losing weight, you are not in a calorie deficit. The reason for that could be anything from underestimating food intake to a medical condition to overestimating calorie burn, but somewhere there a disturbance in the energy equation. Let people help you identify where the problem might be. Your numbers are going to change as you lose weight and you're going to need to tweak - it's normal. Don't sit there and argue. Your HRM and food labels are calorie estimates, not written in stone. You have to put in the time and look for trends to find your calorie sweet spot.

4. Think about what you want to say before you say it. If you don't want your post to turn into an epic train wreck, then find ways to ask for help without insulting other people. If you need food advice, tell us what you are looking for ("desserts with fruit") and not what you don't want ("bad" "unhealthy" "processed junk food" "crap food"). No one cares if you prefer fruit to chocolate; you don't need to belittle another person's food choices just because it isn't your thing. Same thing with exercise/body type. Say you want to cut fat and get muscle definition. Or just lose some weight and improve overall fitness. Post a picture of someone who has the body type you want. Find some way to convey your goal without labeling another body type as unattractive. Again, just because it's not your thing doesn't make it bad.

enidite

Love your post; thank you so much.
Would there be a way to make t a sticky (is that what they are called? Not sure if I have the right word).

nikkihk

Your totally welcome guys... just getting tired of woe is me threads from the person with 5 posts. Get to know a place before you cry wolf.

That is all. =D

WOW

Sarcasm... or a victim of everything I just wrote? If the latter I have a solution for you. Step one, remove keyboard from computer and melt with fire. Step two, continue browsing the internet. Your problem is solved, your welcome.

Have a great day!

nikkihk

Love your post; thank you so much.
Would there be a way to make t a sticky (is that what they are called? Not sure if I have the right word).

I wish I could. Just bookmark and reference the next time you see a topic go south. =D

wheird

Well said.

tennisdude2004

Love your post; thank you so much.
Would there be a way to make t a sticky (is that what they are called? Not sure if I have the right word).

I wish I could. Just bookmark and reference the next time you see a topic go south. =D

anotherplayer

TL;DR... But I pick up what you're layin down...

nikkihk

YOU ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG - chickpeas are the answer to everything, why won't you just believe me, why ohh why


:drinker:

Dammit!! I knew I got something wrong.

wheird

TL;DR... But I pick up what you're layin down...

I disagree that it was too long.

IrishHarpy1

Pure awesome -- this should be required reading before someone is allowed to post in the forums here. :happy:

lauren3101

This is sitting nicely in my bookmarks alongside the guide to sexypants and in place of a roadmap, ready to use in the next butthurt thread.

eric_sg61

This is why I have been known to say "Read more...........post less" It is even funnier when they have less than 10 posts.
Great post OP!

Lesson Three: Read more then you type.

gypsy_spirit

Well said. Too bad the only people that will read and appreciate it, have excellent survival skills in place. :drinker:

Therealobi1

Your totally welcome guys... just getting tired of woe is me threads from the person with 5 posts. Get to know a place before you cry wolf.

That is all. =D

WOW

Sarcasm... or a victim of everything I just wrote? If the latter I have a solution for you. Step one, remove keyboard from computer and melt with fire. Step two, continue browsing the internet. Your problem is solved, your welcome.

Have a great day!

for me its neither. but you can always do the same when you see the woe is me posts too.
problem solved too.

anotherplayer

TL;DR... But I pick up what you're layin down...

I disagree that it was too long.

I disagree with the disagreeance... Is that a word? Ah well...

tennisdude2004

TL;DR... But I pick up what you're layin down...

I disagree that it was too long.

A quicker version would be:

Topsking2010

Well said!!!!

anotherplayer

TL;DR... But I pick up what you're layin down...

I disagree that it was too long.

A quicker version would be:

Well, I cant refute... I have to agree with this....

bekim123

Darn! I was just going to start a thread about this great new diet where you only eat marshmellows and cat food. Back to the drawing board...

Iron_Feline

10/10 Would read again. :drinker:

Monty_P

Yeh. People can be condescending k**bs. But I don't know you and I don't give a s**t.

jstout365

YOU ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG - chickpeas are the answer to everything, why won't you just believe me, why ohh why


:drinker:

But can they be made into things like rice and pizza crust?

89nunu

So much truth!!

Dan6000istheman

Great Post!!!

nikkihk

Your totally welcome guys... just getting tired of woe is me threads from the person with 5 posts. Get to know a place before you cry wolf.

That is all. =D

WOW

Sarcasm... or a victim of everything I just wrote? If the latter I have a solution for you. Step one, remove keyboard from computer and melt with fire. Step two, continue browsing the internet. Your problem is solved, your welcome.

Have a great day!

for me its neither. but you can always do the same when you see the woe is me posts too.
problem solved too.

Butthurt topics are posted to be responded to... it's a cry for attention no matter the quality of the response. Don't fool yourself in to thinking someone who isn't emotionally stable enough to handle an argument with complete strangers without re-engaging in more bickering over the bickering doesn't need to be corrected because then you risk continued repetitive ridiculousness.. Woe is me threads are better left unwritten.... hence my topic. Sorry if you don't agree, but I think you're out numbered.