Sugar Detox

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  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    To all the people who mocked my earlier post. It must be so nice to be able to eat things in 'moderation' and mock others for not being able to control their diets. As someone else earlier said, I can't just have a piece of cake, I have to eat the whole thing. I can't just eat one penguin biscuit, I have to have the entire pack. In one day, I ate an entire packet of maryland cookies, an entire packet of cadbury's fingers, and an entire family sized profiterole gateau.

    The only way I can stop binging on sugar, is to just cut it out. As soon as I have a tiny piece of chocolate, or a boiled sweet, then I just want to eat the entire thing. I've tried moderation, and in the past 2 months I've put on 16lbs. Thank you for your mockery.

    Staying away from highly savory foods you cannot moderate (at least not yet) seems to be working for you. I can't argue with that! However, blaming it on sugar, and calling sugar 'addictive' is what most folks are objecting to. There is no scientific evidence AT ALL that sugar is addictive. In fact, we like it so much because our bodies run it exclusively. What makes some foods hard to resist are their combinations of fats and sugars. No one who claims to have a sugar addiction sits down and eats an entire bag of sugar (for example). That would indicate that sugar really IS addictive. It's not the sugar by itself that makes some foods hard to resist. I have a hard time resisting cake (for example). So when I want it, I usually eat it. But it doesn't consume my every waking thought - I guess I am lucky not to be a 'foodie'.

    We can't survive without food, so it's no wonder our bodies crave it. I wish you continued success in your weight loss journey.:flowerforyou:
  • nikkihk
    nikkihk Posts: 487 Member


    The word DETOX, when used in the MEDICAL sense, refers to ceasing the ingestion of a certain substance, such as alcohol or drugs, to allow the body to rid itself of the substance. Sometimes doctors will use other substances to help slow or increase the rate of detox, as they see fit.
    Altho most people think of detoxing only in the sense of alcohol and illegal drugs, physical detoxing is simply the process of allowing your body to rid itself of ANY substance that you have been putting in it, by ceasing to ingest that substance.

    de·tox·i·fi·ca·tion (dē-tŏk′sə-fĭ-kā′shən)
    n.
    The metabolic process by which the toxic qualities of a poison or toxin are reduced by the body.

    Sugar =/= Toxin or poison.

    “As long as you match for calories, fructose does not behave differently than does any other form of carbohydrate, namely starches or fine starches and glucose. And that's not to say that they're benign, because I don't think we should be having a lot of refined starch or glucose. But it's not behaving any differently.” -Dr. John Sievenpiper, a researcher at St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto.

    So far, I can only find one non peer supported study that claims sugar is any more "toxic" then a potato. I often wonder if these kinds of threads are an excuse to not learn how to eat responsibly. It's like, if people can find a culprit to blame for their weight issues that removes the possibility that they are personally responsible for not regulating what goes in their mouth? It's seems to be easier for them to accept their own body issues.

    "I'm unhappy with myself because of sugar, because of carbs, because of animal fats... etc." But rarely, I'm unhappy because I've refused to learn how to eat responsibly and what I've done to my body is my fault... I think if more people accepted that? They might actually do something positive, make the necessary changes, and find they don't need to demonize the very substances that keeps them alive to enjoy great figures and good food.

    BUT, that's just me.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Sugar is indeed additive, there are many books on it,
    There are many books on how a magical being in the sky (a different one to one you believe in, if you do) is the one and true god.
    Must be correct.

    Why must Christianity be dragged (in an insulting way) into conversations that have nothing to do with religion? :angry:
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    I think it's important to moderate. I mean, I cut out sweet tea and soda, but I still eat fruit and I make my own juice for a glass a day. Carbohydrates are the only food your brain eats.

    Actually no, your brain needs fats more than carbohydrates. Ever wonder why they call peanut butter-brain food? and they highly recommend Omega 3s for brain function. Omegas 3s come from healthy fats, not carbohydrates. Recent studies have shown that people who follow high carbohydrate diets have an increased risk of developing Alzheimers.

    Fatty acids are essential for brain 'upkeep'. But the brain's fuel is glucose, just like gas is a car's fuel.
  • nikkihk
    nikkihk Posts: 487 Member
    Sugar is indeed additive, there are many books on it,
    There are many books on how a magical being in the sky (a different one to one you believe in, if you do) is the one and true god.
    Must be correct.

    Why must Christianity be dragged (in an insulting way) into conversations that have nothing to do with religion? :angry:

    Agreed.
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    Sugar is indeed additive, there are many books on it,
    There are many books on how a magical being in the sky (a different one to one you believe in, if you do) is the one and true god.
    Must be correct.

    Why must Christianity be dragged (in an insulting way) into conversations that have nothing to do with religion? :angry:

    They meant the Church of the Flying Spaghetti monster. It was to illustrate people's ridiculous beliefs beyond facts, science and plain old common sense.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Why must Christianity be dragged (in an insulting way) into conversations that have nothing to do with religion? :angry:
    But, the point was; so much of this sort of thing DOES seem to be a religion:
    It requires 'faith' rather than reasoned thought.
    As per the post - just because it's written in a book, people will both take it as the truth and THEIR truth, often cherry picking the bits they like.

    I think the fact that Christianity was presumed nicely makes part of the point.

    And no; I wasn't talking FSM, who of course IS the one true belief! ;)
  • your body needs sugar for energy..try eating more fruit..also little and often..with a comlex carb too stop insulin levels from crashing..
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    I think it's important to moderate. I mean, I cut out sweet tea and soda, but I still eat fruit and I make my own juice for a glass a day. Carbohydrates are the only food your brain eats.

    Actually no, your brain needs fats more than carbohydrates. Ever wonder why they call peanut butter-brain food? and they highly recommend Omega 3s for brain function. Omegas 3s come from healthy fats, not carbohydrates. Recent studies have shown that people who follow high carbohydrate diets have an increased risk of developing Alzheimers.

    Fatty acids are essential for brain 'upkeep'. But the brain's fuel is glucose, just like gas is a car's fuel.

    Glucose is only one of a couple of fuels the brain can run efficiently on. The Brain indeed must has glucose to function (which is why we produce it naturally in our body),but it it does not need to be 100% glucose around 30g can be sufficient.
  • I also agree with most of the posts. You should definitely stay away from processed sugars or foods with added sugars, but your body does need some sugar for the digestion process & absorption of several vitamins. As a veteran bariatric bypass patient and looser of over 200 lbs, I tend as well to be very careful about the quantities and forms of sugar I consume, but would definitely recommend that it is not safe or healthy to completely cut sugar out ... stick with fresh fruits or freshly squeezed juices (not concentrated or processed) - that is probably the best and most natural source that I can think of recommending. You will probably find that if you incorporate a bit of natural sugar into your diet and span it out over a few hours your symptoms will go away and you will probably have a much more successful weight loss. Good luck!!
  • snazzyjazzy21
    snazzyjazzy21 Posts: 1,298 Member
    Sugar is indeed additive, there are many books on it,
    There are many books on how a magical being in the sky (a different one to one you believe in, if you do) is the one and true god.
    Must be correct.

    Why must Christianity be dragged (in an insulting way) into conversations that have nothing to do with religion? :angry:

    They meant the Church of the Flying Spaghetti monster. It was to illustrate people's ridiculous beliefs beyond facts, science and plain old common sense.

    WOAH HEY! My belief in a flying ball of carbs is not RIDICULOUS. I am insulted. WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN?!?!?!?!
  • Sandiki2Point0
    Sandiki2Point0 Posts: 26 Member
    Fact..the brain relies on sugar to function.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Fact..the brain relies on sugar to function.

    Fact.. The body makes it own glucose (sugar) in the form of glycogen.

    The human body can run efficiently on no dietary sugar. The food we eat might not be as interesting, but it's not essential food.
  • Sandiki2Point0
    Sandiki2Point0 Posts: 26 Member
    Naw..really? ( enter sarcasm) fully aware of this. Just passing time by commenting. But thanks for the physiology update.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    We also need oxygen - but only in moderation.
  • Sandiki2Point0
    Sandiki2Point0 Posts: 26 Member
    Yes.. moderation is key. I prefer a anaerobic state..especially when working out. Although to really benefit and go the distance I suppose I might need sufficient sugar. ;·]~
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Yes.. moderation is key. I prefer a anaerobic state..especially when working out. Although to really benefit and go the distance I suppose I might need sufficient sugar. ;·]~

    Well in an anaerobic state carbs are key, no disagreement from me. I always need to carb up on a sprint session!
  • Sandiki2Point0
    Sandiki2Point0 Posts: 26 Member
    Yes.. moderation is key. I prefer a anaerobic state..especially when working out. Although to really benefit and go the distance I suppose I might need sufficient sugar. ;·]~

    Well in an anaerobic state carbs are key, no disagreement from me. I always need to carb up on a sprint session!

    High five:wink:
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    Fact..the brain relies on sugar to function.

    Fact.. The body makes it own glucose (sugar) in the form of glycogen.

    The human body can run efficiently on no dietary sugar. The food we eat might not be as interesting, but it's not essential food.

    Given that the brain relies on sugar to function and given that the body makes its own glucose, rendering dietary sugar moot, then how does one "detox" the body from sugar?
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Fact..the brain relies on sugar to function.

    Fact.. The body makes it own glucose (sugar) in the form of glycogen.

    The human body can run efficiently on no dietary sugar. The food we eat might not be as interesting, but it's not essential food.

    Given that the brain relies on sugar to function and given that the body makes its own glucose, rendering dietary sugar moot, then how does one "detox" the body from sugar?

    I don't have a scooby!
  • Sandiki2Point0
    Sandiki2Point0 Posts: 26 Member
    Fact..the brain relies on sugar to function.

    Fact.. The body makes it own glucose (sugar) in the form of glycogen.

    The human body can run efficiently on no dietary sugar. The food we eat might not be as interesting, but it's not essential food.

    Given that the brain relies on sugar to function and given that the body makes its own glucose, rendering dietary sugar moot, then how does one "detox" the body from sugar?

    It doesn't..haha..#catch22!
  • Bernadette60614
    Bernadette60614 Posts: 707 Member
    I think what the OP means is maybe refined/added sugar. The kind that's addictive and found in fruit juices, chocolate, ice cream, cookies, cake... I've been on a sugar detox a few times (I ate fruit to curb any cravings and avoid sugar crashes). Takes 2 weeks before you don't crave it anymore, but it is totally worth it.

    I'd agree. Also, there are some groups on MFP which might have a different perspective..Perimeter Eaters, e.g., where the goal is to minimize processed foods.
  • gbbarbru
    gbbarbru Posts: 23 Member
    Vitamin C will take away the headaches, dizziness, and other carbohydrate withdrawal symptoms. Try a dose of Emergen-c and good luck!
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    Fact..the brain relies on sugar to function.

    Fact.. The body makes it own glucose (sugar) in the form of glycogen.

    The human body can run efficiently on no dietary sugar. The food we eat might not be as interesting, but it's not essential food.

    The word 'efficiently' seems to mean something different to you.
  • Roaringgael
    Roaringgael Posts: 339 Member
    Highly refined carbohydrate has no nutritional value. Its junk.
    'sugar detox' is just a description for this.
    No one needs added sugar, white flour products etc.
    Of course the brain uses glucose.
    The body is a factory it breaks down complex foods for us to use.
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    Highly refined carbohydrate has no nutritional value. Its junk.
    'sugar detox' is just a description for this.
    No one needs added sugar, white flour products etc.
    Of course the brain uses glucose.
    The body is a factory it breaks down complex foods for us to use.

    Needs of a Tour de France competitor? You know anything about that?
    Hypoglycemia? You know anything about that?

    The reoccurring problem in this forum is that people are using nonsense terms that large groups of people have different terms for. Indeed, some use the term sugar detox to abstain from fruit also.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Fact..the brain relies on sugar to function.

    Fact.. The body makes it own glucose (sugar) in the form of glycogen.

    The human body can run efficiently on no dietary sugar. The food we eat might not be as interesting, but it's not essential food.

    The word 'efficiently' seems to mean something different to you.

    Do you have any studies to prove other wise?
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    No one needs significant fibre, whole meal products etc.
    Also true.
    That doesn't make those two 'junk' either.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    No one needs significant fibre, whole meal products etc.
    Also true.
    That doesn't make those two 'junk' either.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Back in. For how people like me are the problem.