Why are MFP's protein recommendations so high?
leericle
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Every day, human adults need 0.36 of protein grams per pound of weight.
For me, that's 60 grams of protein per day.
But MFP wants me at 135 grams of protein per day!
If that's happening to everyone else, it explains all the attention on protein bars and protein powders and other so-called boosts that are barely recognizable as food.
Are the MFP formulas victims of meat industry propaganda?
*** Source: http://breakingmuscle.com/nutrition/how-much-protein-do-you-need-science-weighs-in
For me, that's 60 grams of protein per day.
But MFP wants me at 135 grams of protein per day!
If that's happening to everyone else, it explains all the attention on protein bars and protein powders and other so-called boosts that are barely recognizable as food.
Are the MFP formulas victims of meat industry propaganda?
*** Source: http://breakingmuscle.com/nutrition/how-much-protein-do-you-need-science-weighs-in
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I always thought their recommendations were pretty low...0
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These points notwithstanding, there is ample evidence the optimal level of protein intake is greater than the RDA. A variety of studies have shown levels of protein intake above the RDA benefiting muscle mass, strength, bone health, maintenance of energy balance, cardiovascular function, and wound healing. Close examination of these and related research studies should enable a reasonable estimation of the optimal level of protein intake in a variety of circumstances.What if you’re an avid strength-trainer? What if an endurance or sport-playing athlete? The daily menu of intense, energy-depleting training components such as lifting, running, and practicing, taxes the skeletal-muscle system way beyond the average sedentary Jane and Joe. Will .36 grams/pound/day of protein be enough for growth and repair? NO!
did you read your own link?
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There is a difference between "need" from a "in order to not get sick/die" perspective and "useful" from a "for the sake of your weight loss/athletic goals" perspective.
That said, MFP just uses percentages, so if your caloric needs are very very high, it will also over estimate your protein and fat needs - and it will UNDERestimate them for people with lower caloric intakes, which is why for the vast majority of people the protein that MFP recommends by default is too low.
Protein bars and powders are useful because they usually give you a lot of protein bang for your buck and people who have a limited number of calories to work with find that helpful.0 -
Are the MFP formulas victims of meat industry propaganda?
You have to be trolling.0 -
In for Big Meat0
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These points notwithstanding, there is ample evidence the optimal level of protein intake is greater than the RDA. A variety of studies have shown levels of protein intake above the RDA benefiting muscle mass, strength, bone health, maintenance of energy balance, cardiovascular function, and wound healing. Close examination of these and related research studies should enable a reasonable estimation of the optimal level of protein intake in a variety of circumstances.What if you’re an avid strength-trainer? What if an endurance or sport-playing athlete? The daily menu of intense, energy-depleting training components such as lifting, running, and practicing, taxes the skeletal-muscle system way beyond the average sedentary Jane and Joe. Will .36 grams/pound/day of protein be enough for growth and repair? NO!
did you read your own link?
:laugh:In for Big Meat
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In for Big Meat
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Yes, I read the article. Like most people, I'm not an avid strength-trainer. (Maximum I lift is 5 pounds per hand.) I'm not an endurance athlete. (I walk 3-5 miles at a stretch.) So why should I be treated like one in MFP's recommendations? And by people who look at my food diary, I might add...What if you’re an avid strength-trainer? What if an endurance or sport-playing athlete? The daily menu of intense, energy-depleting training components such as lifting, running, and practicing, taxes the skeletal-muscle system way beyond the average sedentary Jane and Joe. Will .36 grams/pound/day of protein be enough for growth and repair? NO!
did you read your own link?0 -
Yes, I read the article. Like most people, I'm not an avid strength-trainer. (Maximum I lift is 5 pounds per hand.) I'm not an endurance athlete. (I walk 3-5 miles at a stretch.) So why should I be treated like one in MFP's recommendations? And by people who look at my food diary, I might add...What if you’re an avid strength-trainer? What if an endurance or sport-playing athlete? The daily menu of intense, energy-depleting training components such as lifting, running, and practicing, taxes the skeletal-muscle system way beyond the average sedentary Jane and Joe. Will .36 grams/pound/day of protein be enough for growth and repair? NO!
did you read your own link?
when you are eating reduced calories, eating higher protein will prevent some of the normal muscle loss that occurs while dieting.
Do you "have" to do it for health? No. But most people prefer to lose 10lbs of fat instead of 7lbs of fat and 3 lbs of muscle, because it makes their bodies look better at that same weight.
You can stick to the bare minimum if you don't care about that.0 -
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No trolling. The meat and diary industries have been influencing government nutrition recommendations for decades:
http://grist.org/food/protein-propaganda-its-whats-for-dinner/Are the MFP formulas victims of meat industry propaganda?
You have to be trolling.0 -
Big Meat propaganda!
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Yes, I read the article. Like most people, I'm not an avid strength-trainer. (Maximum I lift is 5 pounds per hand.) I'm not an endurance athlete. (I walk 3-5 miles at a stretch.) So why should I be treated like one in MFP's recommendations? And by people who look at my food diary, I might add...What if you’re an avid strength-trainer? What if an endurance or sport-playing athlete? The daily menu of intense, energy-depleting training components such as lifting, running, and practicing, taxes the skeletal-muscle system way beyond the average sedentary Jane and Joe. Will .36 grams/pound/day of protein be enough for growth and repair? NO!
did you read your own link?
You know you can custom change your macros, right? And that things are based on averages and unfortunately, MFP isn't equipped to design specific calorie/macro/micro numbers for the individual...which is why there are options to tweak as needed manually.
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Yes, I read the article. Like most people, I'm not an avid strength-trainer. (Maximum I lift is 5 pounds per hand.) I'm not an endurance athlete. (I walk 3-5 miles at a stretch.) So why should I be treated like one in MFP's recommendations? And by people who look at my food diary, I might add...What if you’re an avid strength-trainer? What if an endurance or sport-playing athlete? The daily menu of intense, energy-depleting training components such as lifting, running, and practicing, taxes the skeletal-muscle system way beyond the average sedentary Jane and Joe. Will .36 grams/pound/day of protein be enough for growth and repair? NO!
did you read your own link?
Um, MPF's recommendation is the low end of the scale. They certanly don't treat everyone like "athletes", It is far too low for those of us who are very active. They have it set for 15% of your calories, hardly a huge portion of you calories or pushing the protein. Many of us set it to 30% or higher. As someone else mentioned, if you have a higher calorie goal, it will be a little off. As someone else mentioned, the goals are customizable.0 -
No trolling. The meat and diary industries have been influencing government nutrition recommendations for decades:
http://grist.org/food/protein-propaganda-its-whats-for-dinner/Are the MFP formulas victims of meat industry propaganda?
You have to be trolling.
Wait. I thought that was the grain and dairy who were doing that?
Anytime the food pyramid is discussed it's all about too many carbs and the grain propoganda. :ohwell:
Does Big Meat have deeper pockets?0 -
No trolling. The meat and diary industries have been influencing government nutrition recommendations for decades:
http://grist.org/food/protein-propaganda-its-whats-for-dinner/
Is that the fault of the meat and dairy industries or government?0 -
Since a lot of protein powders are made with Whey-based protein it's obviously Big Dairy that's the problem.0
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In for Big Meat
Always.
I could go for a nice pork loin.0 -
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Yes, I read the article. Like most people, I'm not an avid strength-trainer. (Maximum I lift is 5 pounds per hand.) I'm not an endurance athlete. (I walk 3-5 miles at a stretch.) So why should I be treated like one in MFP's recommendations? And by people who look at my food diary, I might add...
You should start lifting heavier weight, don't worry, women don't get bulky by accident!!! You might see a little gain in weight at first and during your time of the month but that's normal!!!0 -
...or maybe it's because meat is an excellent source of protein and other vital nutrients??
Notice I didn't say the only source, but an excellent one nonetheless. This feels like the anti-egg movement from the 90's...0 -
I'll keep that in mind if I ever become a woman. I don't lift heavy weights because I don't like lifting heavy weights, I don't have a weight room to go to, and I don't want to do it wrong and injure myself.Yes, I read the article. Like most people, I'm not an avid strength-trainer. (Maximum I lift is 5 pounds per hand.) I'm not an endurance athlete. (I walk 3-5 miles at a stretch.) So why should I be treated like one in MFP's recommendations? And by people who look at my food diary, I might add...
You should start lifting heavier weight, don't worry, women don't get bulky by accident!!! You might see a little gain in weight at first and during your time of the month but that's normal!!!0 -
What is on your face?0
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I'll keep that in mind if I ever become a woman. I don't lift heavy weights because I don't like lifting heavy weights, I don't have a weight room to go to, and I don't want to do it wrong and injure myself.Yes, I read the article. Like most people, I'm not an avid strength-trainer. (Maximum I lift is 5 pounds per hand.) I'm not an endurance athlete. (I walk 3-5 miles at a stretch.) So why should I be treated like one in MFP's recommendations? And by people who look at my food diary, I might add...
You should start lifting heavier weight, don't worry, women don't get bulky by accident!!! You might see a little gain in weight at first and during your time of the month but that's normal!!!
Totally assumed you were a chick...0 -
Meat Industry Propaganda is the name of my supah secret bully clique. MIPs in the hizzouse!0
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I'll keep that in mind if I ever become a woman. I don't lift heavy weights because I don't like lifting heavy weights, I don't have a weight room to go to, and I don't want to do it wrong and injure myself.Yes, I read the article. Like most people, I'm not an avid strength-trainer. (Maximum I lift is 5 pounds per hand.) I'm not an endurance athlete. (I walk 3-5 miles at a stretch.) So why should I be treated like one in MFP's recommendations? And by people who look at my food diary, I might add...
You should start lifting heavier weight, don't worry, women don't get bulky by accident!!! You might see a little gain in weight at first and during your time of the month but that's normal!!!
You must make a lot of trips to carry in your groceries.
And there are other forms of strength and resistance training you could do without a gym. You could work on heavier..much heavier..dumbbells or even body weight exercises that have variations to make it harder as you progress.0 -
I always thought their recommendations were pretty low...
^^this, i had to change my goals to MAKE it higher...:huh:0 -
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Every day, human adults need 0.36 of protein grams per pound of weight.
For me, that's 60 grams of protein per day.
But MFP wants me at 135 grams of protein per day!
If that's happening to everyone else, it explains all the attention on protein bars and protein powders and other so-called boosts that are barely recognizable as food.
Are the MFP formulas victims of meat industry propaganda?
*** Source: http://breakingmuscle.com/nutrition/how-much-protein-do-you-need-science-weighs-in
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60g a day??? Do you like being hungry all the time. You want high protein and fat, just not to retain muscle while losing weight but because it is better at satiating your appetite than carbs. I like me some carbs, but I try to keep my Protein above 150g a day strictly because I feel fuller.
I have had a low protein day today because I need to go grocery shopping and can't till Friday, and I can tell. I want to raid the candy machine at work. Normally it doesn't bug me.
Each to their own though :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: :drinker:0 -
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