Cow's milk is bad?
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Recently I stopped drinking cow's milk, first I ditched full cream because it was too 'heavy' and then just gave it up completely in favour of almond milk. IMHO, milk was designed to make a 100 kg calf into a 1000 kg cow. Not good for us! Also, there's that myth about pus and blood. I know it's not true but it gets me every time... ugh.
I like almond milk in my coffee and sub it out to save calories in some dessert recipes. Milk isn't bad for you though, although that's a popular MFP myth people like to spout on here. In fact I sure your trolling right now with your op. Raw milk has excellent health benefits and most people who are lactose intolerant have no problems drinking raw milk. Most of the benefits of milk are lost in the pasteurization process. That's why calves often don't survive when fed pasteurized milk. I'm sure someone will chime in in how bad it is for you momentarily....
Eh. I fed my kids raw human milk and frozen human milk. Many of the benefits were lost during the freezing process, but I wouldn't say most. However, raw milk is an effective topical antibiotic (anti-viral agent as well)
That's actually true. Human breastmilk is awesome like that, I've used it many times on my own kids for conjunctivitis when they were babies.
I wondered for a long time...you know all those stories of famous beauties bathing in milk? Was there actually benefit from the immune factors as well as the oils and fats?0 -
Donated breast milk is pasteurized, and many hospitals feel this is a better option than formula for mothers who are unable to lactate or cannot produce enough milk to sustain their child. The NIH is currently conducting a trial for which is more effective for premies: http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01534481?term=milk+trial&rank=1Recently I stopped drinking cow's milk, first I ditched full cream because it was too 'heavy' and then just gave it up completely in favour of almond milk. IMHO, milk was designed to make a 100 kg calf into a 1000 kg cow. Not good for us! Also, there's that myth about pus and blood. I know it's not true but it gets me every time... ugh.
I like almond milk in my coffee and sub it out to save calories in some dessert recipes. Milk isn't bad for you though, although that's a popular MFP myth people like to spout on here. In fact I sure your trolling right now with your op. Raw milk has excellent health benefits and most people who are lactose intolerant have no problems drinking raw milk. Most of the benefits of milk are lost in the pasteurization process. That's why calves often don't survive when fed pasteurized milk. I'm sure someone will chime in in how bad it is for you momentarily....
Eh. I fed my kids raw human milk and frozen human milk. Many of the benefits were lost during the freezing process, but I wouldn't say most. However, raw milk is an effective topical antibiotic (anti-viral agent as well)
Many but not most huh? Kinda splitting hairs if you ask me. Anyways freezing is the opposite of pasteurizing so I wouldn't try to compare the effects of the two.0 -
How many other mammals drink animal milk past a very young age?
How many have that option?
A lot of adult male animals, lions, apes, cats, could if they wanted to.
Ok I'll bite. I'm an adult male lion, where do I get my milk if I want some? Whole Foods or Publix?
The harem of female lions you're protecting.
What just pin her down and suck a tittie? Me thinks she may protest too much....
Rape happens all the time in the animal kingdom. If they wanted some milk, they'd gang up if they had a problem one on one.
inconclusive...the male lion can also just eat one of the cubs she is nursing much more easily...0 -
How many other mammals drink animal milk past a very young age?
How many have that option?
A lot of adult male animals, lions, apes, cats, could if they wanted to.
Ok I'll bite. I'm an adult male lion, where do I get my milk if I want some? Whole Foods or Publix?
The harem of female lions you're protecting.
What just pin her down and suck a tittie? Me thinks she may protest too much....
Rape happens all the time in the animal kingdom. If they wanted some milk, they'd gang up if they had a problem one on one.
inconclusive...the male lion can also just eat one of the cubs she is nursing much more easily...
Also, it would be counterproductive to the propagation of the species. It doesn't happen because if the adults started taking the nutrients from the cubs, the species would quickly die out. If a male lion takes over a pride, killing or running off the previous male, he will kill the young cubs that already exist. That way the females come into heat sooner and he can get them pregnant with his genetics. If that instinct is so strong, he's not going to turn around and start taking the milk from those same cubs he just expended so much effort to create.
Well, this thread is totally derailed. At least it's more interesting now. The dairy debate is a bit overdone.0 -
We need to find a way to farm and milk blue whales. The milk is probably much higher in omega 3's anyway...0
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Recently I stopped drinking cow's milk, first I ditched full cream because it was too 'heavy' and then just gave it up completely in favour of almond milk. IMHO, milk was designed to make a 100 kg calf into a 1000 kg cow. Not good for us! Also, there's that myth about pus and blood. I know it's not true but it gets me every time... ugh.
I like almond milk in my coffee and sub it out to save calories in some dessert recipes. Milk isn't bad for you though, although that's a popular MFP myth people like to spout on here. In fact I sure your trolling right now with your op. Raw milk has excellent health benefits and most people who are lactose intolerant have no problems drinking raw milk. Most of the benefits of milk are lost in the pasteurization process. That's why calves often don't survive when fed pasteurized milk. I'm sure someone will chime in in how bad it is for you momentarily....
Eh. I fed my kids raw human milk and frozen human milk. Many of the benefits were lost during the freezing process, but I wouldn't say most. However, raw milk is an effective topical antibiotic (anti-viral agent as well)
That's actually true. Human breastmilk is awesome like that, I've used it many times on my own kids for conjunctivitis when they were babies.
I wondered for a long time...you know all those stories of famous beauties bathing in milk? Was there actually benefit from the immune factors as well as the oils and fats?
It's much better to bathe in the blood of thine enemies . . .
All those anti-aging effects and what not. Or, if you're a vampire.0 -
Cows milk is awful........................if it is spoiled.0
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Depends. Has the cow dallied with the dark arts?
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I eat low fat dairy with no problem, but I like almond milk too.0
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We need to find a way to farm and milk blue whales. The milk is probably much higher in omega 3's anyway...
Brilliant idea.0 -
Congrats0
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I eat low fat dairy with no problem, but I like almond milk too.
Almond milk is for baby almonds0 -
I eat low fat dairy with no problem, but I like almond milk too.
Almond milk is for baby almonds
Actually, that's true.0 -
Baby almonds are tasty.
Almond milk is for baby almondsI eat low fat dairy with no problem, but I like almond milk too.0 -
Baby almonds are tasty.
Almond milk is for baby almondsI eat low fat dairy with no problem, but I like almond milk too.
almond sprouts? I bet they would be.0 -
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OP said that they stopped drinking cow's milk in favor of almond milk because they think it isn't "good" for us, without defining "good" or offering any support. This thread never had any rails.0
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OP said that they stopped drinking cow's milk in favor of almond milk because they think it isn't "good" for us, without defining "good" or offering any support. This thread never had any rails.
Good point.0 -
OP said that they stopped drinking cow's milk in favor of almond milk because they think it isn't "good" for us, without defining "good" or offering any support. This thread never had any rails.
Good point.
What ? You haven't defined good, or offered any support. You looking to continue running without rails???
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Which is why I prefer drinking Bull's milk.0 -
How many other mammals drink animal milk past a very young age?
How many have that option?
A lot of adult male animals, lions, apes, cats, could if they wanted to.
Ok I'll bite. I'm an adult male lion, where do I get my milk if I want some? Whole Foods or Publix?
The harem of female lions you're protecting.
What just pin her down and suck a tittie? Me thinks she may protest too much....
Rape happens all the time in the animal kingdom. If they wanted some milk, they'd gang up if they had a problem one on one.
This is one of the most bizarre series of responses I've read on this website.
Anyway, yeah, a lot of animals don't drink milk after infancy because 1) It's impossible/highly difficult/impractical to obtain, 2) most cannot digest lactose after infancy. Fortunately, humans developed a mutation some many thousand years ago that allowed them to digest milk forever. If you're not lactose intolerant, there's no reason (barring some other medical issue) not to drink milk. Have at it.0 -
OP said that they stopped drinking cow's milk in favor of almond milk because they think it isn't "good" for us, without defining "good" or offering any support. This thread never had any rails.
Good point.
What ? You haven't defined good, or offered any support. You looking to continue running without rails???
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Yup. That's why I served up my "breast milk has antibiotic qualities" comment.
BTW, my mammal milk did a little more than make my baby mammals fat, but where's the fun in that?0 -
Baby almonds are tasty.
Almond milk is for baby almondsI eat low fat dairy with no problem, but I like almond milk too.
So, what you're saying... You like nuts.0 -
OP said that they stopped drinking cow's milk in favor of almond milk because they think it isn't "good" for us, without defining "good" or offering any support. This thread never had any rails.
Good point.
What ? You haven't defined good, or offered any support. You looking to continue running without rails???
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Yup. That's why I served up my "breast milk has antibiotic qualities" comment.
BTW, my mammal milk did a little more than make my baby mammals fat, but where's the fun in that?
Did you ever spray anyone with it? My sister did this once to her husband and I think it almost ended in divorce. Not really but he didn't take it very well. We bought him a spray bottle for Christmas and filled it with cows milk right before wrapping it (he opened it a few minutes later). By that time, he'd gotten over the trauma and found it hilarious. He did spray her once. We all giggled.0 -
OP said that they stopped drinking cow's milk in favor of almond milk because they think it isn't "good" for us, without defining "good" or offering any support. This thread never had any rails.
Good point.
What ? You haven't defined good, or offered any support. You looking to continue running without rails???
[/smiley sarcasm]
Yup. That's why I served up my "breast milk has antibiotic qualities" comment.
BTW, my mammal milk did a little more than make my baby mammals fat, but where's the fun in that?
Did you ever spray anyone with it? My sister did this once to her husband and I think it almost ended in divorce. Not really but he didn't take it very well. We bought him a spray bottle for Christmas and filled it with cows milk right before wrapping it (he opened it a few minutes later). By that time, he'd gotten over the trauma and found it hilarious. He did spray her once. We all giggled.
I probably did accidentally spray my husband with it - when my milk first came in, the reflex wasn't easy to control so I got it just about everywhere else. That is a great gag gift.
I use it on surface scrapes and diaper rash all the time. Seriously, it's better than Neosporin. It's the one thing I'm going to miss when I go dry.0 -
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OP said that they stopped drinking cow's milk in favor of almond milk because they think it isn't "good" for us, without defining "good" or offering any support. This thread never had any rails.
Good point.
What ? You haven't defined good, or offered any support. You looking to continue running without rails???
[/smiley sarcasm]
Yup. That's why I served up my "breast milk has antibiotic qualities" comment.
BTW, my mammal milk did a little more than make my baby mammals fat, but where's the fun in that?
Did you ever spray anyone with it? My sister did this once to her husband and I think it almost ended in divorce. Not really but he didn't take it very well. We bought him a spray bottle for Christmas and filled it with cows milk right before wrapping it (he opened it a few minutes later). By that time, he'd gotten over the trauma and found it hilarious. He did spray her once. We all giggled.
I've warned my husband that he's going to get sprayed (if we decide to have kids). I figure he can't be mad if he's given advanced notice.0 -
Depends. Has the cow dallied with the dark arts?
The Unicow! I took my daughter to see that.
Well it was probably a different cow with a horn. That poor thing looked so fat and miserable.
Also, as a public service announcement, don't drink raw milk. There's a reason we pasteurize, it's not just for funsies. Raw milk can literally kill you.
This anti-science stuff has to end, we're using the internet for pete's sake!
Didn't you know that the internet readily encourages anti-science?0 -
Organic whole milk is fine. It's also delicious. I grew up with only skim or 1% milk in the house and never liked milk much at all until I finally tried whole milk.
Non-organic milk can contain bovine growth hormone, pesticides, and residue from antibiotics. Since it's probably not pasture raised, the omega 6 to omega 3 ratios aren't optimal. This is one of the instances where the organic version does make a big difference.
The other problem is that the fat in milk is a good thing in that it helps buffer the sugar to prevent insulin spikes. It may not taste sweet, but milk has quite a bit of sugars in it. I think the fat may also help absorption of protein along with fat soluble nutrients that obviously get removed with the fat. Saturated fat is finally being vindicated of being the villain in our diets. Saturated fat is very stable and provides a great nutritious fuel source and as long as you burn all of your daily calories, there's no excess in your bloodstream anyway.
Whole milk is around 4% fat, so drinking 2% milk denies you of the benefits and taste with minimal caloric reduction. 1% and skim milk taste like water and shouldn't even be called milk in my book.
Milk is however, not a great calcium source which many people consume it for. The dairy association pushes it for that, but there's a big difference between what nutrients may be in a food and how much of that is bio available. You do get some, but it's not absorbed that well for humans. Much better calcium sources are dark greens, sea vegetables, and veggies in general.
If you decide on almond or soy milk as an alternative, beware of the extremely high sugar content in most of the brands and be sure to factor that into your decision. I'd rather have the fat since essential fats are nutrients my body needs and sugar is well, just empty calories.
Btw, you should try full fat organic yogurts. That's what yogurt is supposed to taste like instead of like instant pudding. I love the full fat plain Greek yogurt that Cabot makes with 10% milk fat. It's as thick as sour cream and I go through a couple 2 lb containers a week.0 -
OP said that they stopped drinking cow's milk in favor of almond milk because they think it isn't "good" for us, without defining "good" or offering any support. This thread never had any rails.
Good point.
What ? You haven't defined good, or offered any support. You looking to continue running without rails???
[/smiley sarcasm]
Yup. That's why I served up my "breast milk has antibiotic qualities" comment.
BTW, my mammal milk did a little more than make my baby mammals fat, but where's the fun in that?
Did you ever spray anyone with it? My sister did this once to her husband and I think it almost ended in divorce. Not really but he didn't take it very well. We bought him a spray bottle for Christmas and filled it with cows milk right before wrapping it (he opened it a few minutes later). By that time, he'd gotten over the trauma and found it hilarious. He did spray her once. We all giggled.
I've warned my husband that he's going to get sprayed (if we decide to have kids). I figure he can't be mad if he's given advanced notice.
I almost want to get pregnant just so I can do this. I'd probably find out I had one of those guys that's into 'mothering' and the joke would be on me.
(Please, before anyone get's their panties in a wad, note that this is sarcastic and I would not let this be a main reason for having a kid.)0
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