KATIE COURIC'S PERILS OF FOOD POLICS
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eating too much food is the cause of the obesity epidemic …no need to watch this documentary ..
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I'm fed up with the scare tactics the media likes to use. :flowerforyou:
I'll keep my sugar, in moderation, thank you. :drinker:0 -
Ah yes, another "documentary" full of exaggerations and half truths. People still pay attention to these? Really?0
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The message that the "messenger, Katie Couric" is trying to send is : EXCESS sugar is dangerous. EXCESS. According to experts, EXCESS is this case, is more than 10 percent of one's calories.
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
What happens if more than 10% of my calories come from sugar, exactly? (Because in my case about half my carbs are sugar carbs, which would mean 15-20% of my calories) What dangers am I courting, exactly?0 -
Popcorn anyone - Am i allowed anything on it though as I thought salt would kill me! But Sugar will kill me!! Damm what Am I to do but popcorns a carb and that will kill me. OK water anyone but what happens if my water has flouride in it ................... .............................
Or you manage to overhydrate? You're a gonner!0 -
Yet again this is quoted wrong the actual advice is 10% after your daily nutrient needs have been met. So it's not 10% overall as all the usual suspects keep quoting. Not that I'm surprised that it's taken out of context. The full report is on the AHA website if you wish to check
The message that the "messenger, Katie Couric" is trying to send is : EXCESS sugar is dangerous. EXCESS. According to experts, EXCESS is this case, is more than 10 percent of one's calories.
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group0 -
Stop it with this common sense. This is MFP and it's no place for itYou think we'd have learned a lesson from demonizing fats. But no.
Next they demonized carbs. Or salt. Now sugar.
Because it's the easy way out. Looking at someone's diet as a whole...oh man, that sounds like work. And what do you mean I'm to blame for the food I choose to ingest? I'd much rather blame food manufacturers for making food taste good. Rotten businesses trying to make a profit...they should be concerned about my health! So I don't have to be.
What I don't get is that knowing they've been wrong so many times before, why people would listen now?
Go ahead. Ignore your diet as a whole. Tell yourself it's not about calories, just blame sugar. You're not going to succeed, you won't lose weight or get any healthier. But hey, now you can blame someone else for making you fat. You've found your excuse. And that's what you really want, isn't it? An excuse to stay the way you are.0 -
So Couric's show should only be about topics she is an expert on? That's never been a requirement for documentaries before, not sure why it would be now.
I'll watch this because it's a topic that's of interest to me and I have an open mind to see the various viewpoints presented.
Absolutely. Here however, at lovely MFP it's a total split if you talk about sugar-you're either for it or against it, love it or hate it, won't kill you or slowly kills you bit by bit. That seems to be the only view points (or so some would have it portrayed that way) and I'm sure this thread will turn into another ridiculous "good vs bad" issue when in reality your right, it's just a documentary.
Okay how about this.
Sugar, in moderation - it's not good and it's not bad!
In fact some might say it's our neutral buddy!
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Watched the trailer then read the article about it in "New York Times"
Interesting that the film apparently quotes research by Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, an associate professor of medicine and epidemiology and the article even links to his research here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21696306
Strangely enough his research shows potato chips and potatoes are a bigger cause of weight gain than sugar sweetened drinks while the film seems to be arguing sugar only
I am doing ok eating potatoes in moderation so can't see why eating sugar in moderation would be any different0 -
The same Katie Couric with the anti HPV vaccine stance for which she had to publicly apologize?
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Yet again this is quoted wrong the actual advice is 10% after your daily nutrient needs have been met. So it's not 10% overall as all the usual suspects keep quoting. Not that I'm surprised that it's taken out of context. The full report is on the AHA website if you wish to check
The message that the "messenger, Katie Couric" is trying to send is : EXCESS sugar is dangerous. EXCESS. According to experts, EXCESS is this case, is more than 10 percent of one's calories.
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
So. Are you saying that since I eat my veg and meat and fruit first then, once that's taken care of, I eat my ice cream and cookies, I'm not actually in any danger from the sugars?
Is Joanne lying to me?0 -
You think we'd have learned a lesson from demonizing fats. But no.
Next they demonized carbs. Or salt. Now sugar.
Because it's the easy way out. Looking at someone's diet as a whole...oh man, that sounds like work. And what do you mean I'm to blame for the food I choose to ingest? I'd much rather blame food manufacturers for making food taste good. Rotten businesses trying to make a profit...they should be concerned about my health! So I don't have to be.
What I don't get is that knowing they've been wrong so many times before, why people would listen now?
Go ahead. Ignore your diet as a whole. Tell yourself it's not about calories, just blame sugar. You're not going to succeed, you won't lose weight or get any healthier. But hey, now you can blame someone else for making you fat. You've found your excuse. And that's what you really want, isn't it? An excuse to stay the way you are.
exactly...
personal responsibilty for choices is out the window...even the "documentry" says..."it's not your fault your fat..."0 -
You think we'd have learned a lesson from demonizing fats. But no.
Next they demonized carbs. Or salt. Now sugar.
Because it's the easy way out. Looking at someone's diet as a whole...oh man, that sounds like work. And what do you mean I'm to blame for the food I choose to ingest? I'd much rather blame food manufacturers for making food taste good. Rotten businesses trying to make a profit...they should be concerned about my health! So I don't have to be.
What I don't get is that knowing they've been wrong so many times before, why people would listen now?
Go ahead. Ignore your diet as a whole. Tell yourself it's not about calories, just blame sugar. You're not going to succeed, you won't lose weight or get any healthier. But hey, now you can blame someone else for making you fat. You've found your excuse. And that's what you really want, isn't it? An excuse to stay the way you are.
Ignorance is bliss, isn't it? I haven't ever seen any hard, scientific proof that a diet consisting of moderate amounts of sugar (both added and natural) is unhealthy.0 -
You think we'd have learned a lesson from demonizing fats. But no.
Next they demonized carbs. Or salt. Now sugar.
Because it's the easy way out. Looking at someone's diet as a whole...oh man, that sounds like work. And what do you mean I'm to blame for the food I choose to ingest? I'd much rather blame food manufacturers for making food taste good. Rotten businesses trying to make a profit...they should be concerned about my health! So I don't have to be.
What I don't get is that knowing they've been wrong so many times before, why people would listen now?
Go ahead. Ignore your diet as a whole. Tell yourself it's not about calories, just blame sugar. You're not going to succeed, you won't lose weight or get any healthier. But hey, now you can blame someone else for making you fat. You've found your excuse. And that's what you really want, isn't it? An excuse to stay the way you are.
exactly...
personal responsibilty for choices is out the window...even the "documentry" says..."it's not your fault your fat..."
But its not my fault, if it were my fault wouldn't I be able to do something about it? Wouldn't I be able to lose weight? No wait........0 -
i think the mfp community doesnt realize that for us, sugar may not be "bad" because we count calories and account for it in our daily totals, whereas someone who doesnt count calories doesnt necessarily know what is going into their bodies calorie wise, so a bit of sugar can make a large difference for them. this i believe is the main reason for the demonizing of sugar, if producers and institutions (schools ect.) cut back on the sugar output then I'm sure we would see a decrease in obesity rates.
though i definitely agree moderation should be the emphasis of any nutritional based documentary0 -
i think the mfp community doesnt realize that for us, sugar may not be "bad" because we count calories and account for it in our daily totals, whereas someone who doesnt count calories doesnt necessarily know what is going into their bodies calorie wise, so a bit of sugar can make a large difference for them. this i believe is the main reason for the demonizing of sugar, if producers and institutions (schools ect.) cut back on the sugar output then I'm sure we would see a decrease in obesity rates.
though i definitely agree moderation should be the emphasis of any nutritional based documentary
This applies to everything. A bit of fat can make a huge difference (In fact with fat having more calories per gram than carbs fat will actually have a bigger impact than sugar). A bit of protein can make a difference. Excess carbs will make a difference.
I can easily take down a 10-12 ounce steak and if I did that constantly I'd put on weight and yet I don't see documentaries about how steak is making me a fatass. (Or at least not one people take seriously. :indifferent: ) I can crush 4 or 5 apples at a time (seriously apples are so unsatisfying.) and at 125-150 calories a pop that surely adds up, yet I see people insisting I should eat more fruit with no regard for the fact that fruit does nothing for my satiety.0 -
Yep all sugars fault and not the fact that people ride their office chairs for 8-12 hours a day then come home and ride the couch the rest of the night, people hire landscapers or use a riding mower to mow their less than .25 acre yard, people drive their car to go 1 block down the street etc..........where is that documentary.0
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You think we'd have learned a lesson from demonizing fats. But no.
Next they demonized carbs. Or salt. Now sugar.
Because it's the easy way out. Looking at someone's diet as a whole...oh man, that sounds like work. And what do you mean I'm to blame for the food I choose to ingest? I'd much rather blame food manufacturers for making food taste good. Rotten businesses trying to make a profit...they should be concerned about my health! So I don't have to be.
What I don't get is that knowing they've been wrong so many times before, why people would listen now?
Go ahead. Ignore your diet as a whole. Tell yourself it's not about calories, just blame sugar. You're not going to succeed, you won't lose weight or get any healthier. But hey, now you can blame someone else for making you fat. You've found your excuse. And that's what you really want, isn't it? An excuse to stay the way you are.
Ignorance is bliss, isn't it? I haven't ever seen any hard, scientific proof that a diet consisting of moderate amounts of sugar (both added and natural) is unhealthy.
I suppose what would need to be defined is the word moderate.
There are studies showing that excessive amounts of sugar is harmful to overall health.
I should think as the poster above has commented, the documentary is aimed at a large portion of westernised society who do not observe the same eating restrictions as we all do (who are looking to loss or maintain weight) on MFP.0 -
i think the mfp community doesnt realize that for us, sugar may not be "bad" because we count calories and account for it in our daily totals, whereas someone who doesnt count calories doesnt necessarily know what is going into their bodies calorie wise, so a bit of sugar can make a large difference for them. this i believe is the main reason for the demonizing of sugar, if producers and institutions (schools ect.) cut back on the sugar output then I'm sure we would see a decrease in obesity rates.
though i definitely agree moderation should be the emphasis of any nutritional based documentary
This applies to everything. A bit of fat can make a huge difference. A bit of protein can make a difference. Excess carbs will make a difference.
I can easily take down a 10-12ounce steak and if I did that constantly I'd put on weight and yet I don't see documentaries about how steak is making me a fatass. (Or at least not one people take seriously. :indifferent: )
We can make it happen. Quick, call Katie.0 -
i think the mfp community doesnt realize that for us, sugar may not be "bad" because we count calories and account for it in our daily totals, whereas someone who doesnt count calories doesnt necessarily know what is going into their bodies calorie wise, so a bit of sugar can make a large difference for them. this i believe is the main reason for the demonizing of sugar, if producers and institutions (schools ect.) cut back on the sugar output then I'm sure we would see a decrease in obesity rates.
though i definitely agree moderation should be the emphasis of any nutritional based documentary
This argument could be made for any calorie rich food that is part of the Standard American Diet and it would STILL be wrong.
Let's demonize bread, pop, chocolate, processed food, pizza, fat, carbs, fast food, etc....
oh, wait ....0
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