What YOU should know about GLUTEN SENSITIVITY
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I understand that study involved 37 subjects. Not what I would consider scientifically conclusive. Also screw them.0
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Lactose intolerant means that you can't digest lactose. The result is foul smelling gas, loose bowel movements, vomiting, etc. If gluten produces the same symptoms, you would naturally consider yourself to be gluten intolerant. Seems like a simple conclusion.
I agree. I am lactose intolerant, but apparently not to gluten, and people who have issues with gluten complain about similar symptoms to mine.
Also, many people who don't eat gluten don't even know what gluten is. They're just following along with everyone else because it's cool. Like the cottage cheese diet in the 60s....or Atkins.
Not eating gluten is cool? That's funny… I beg to differ. I'd love to eat bread and pasta and cookies and muffins but I can't.
MOST people don't eat gluten free for the hell of it. MOST people who eat gluten free do it because they have a legitimate medical reason to… whether it's Celiac, Crohn's, insulin resistance, PCOS, diabetes, etc.
The people who eat gluten free because they think it causes weight loss… well, that's just silly obviously. Those are also the people who start eating gluten again faster than they stopped because they realize how big of a lifestyle change it is.1 -
I understand that study involved 37 subjects. Not what I would consider scientifically conclusive. Also screw them.
What is it exactly that makes you so angry about the results of this study?0 -
I understand that study involved 37 subjects. Not what I would consider scientifically conclusive. Also screw them.
This exactly.
There are 20 million people in the world who may have a gluten sensitivity. Therefore, a sample size of 37 doesn't mean jack-****. And let's not forget that ONE study is not enough evidence. In fact, there are more studies that prove gluten sensitivity is real.0 -
Here we go… another person who tries to tell others that their physical symptoms aren't real.
Do you have Celiacs?0 -
I understand that study involved 37 subjects. Not what I would consider scientifically conclusive. Also screw them.
This exactly.
There are 20 million people in the world who may have a gluten sensitivity. Therefore, a sample size of 37 doesn't mean jack-****. And let's not forget that ONE study is not enough evidence. In fact, there are more studies that prove gluten sensitivity is real.
The only one I found with a quick google search was the original study by the same researcher from 2011. I'd be interested in other studies if you happen to have links.0 -
I understand that study involved 37 subjects. Not what I would consider scientifically conclusive. Also screw them.
This exactly.
There are 20 million people in the world who may have a gluten sensitivity. Therefore, a sample size of 37 doesn't mean jack-****. And let's not forget that ONE study is not enough evidence. In fact, there are more studies that prove gluten sensitivity is real.
Yup. May have. But it's looking more and more like they may not. It reminds me of the kids/sugar/hyperactive study. The only positive correlation found was mothers who thought that sugar makes kids hyperactive. The kids acted hyper on sugar because that is what their mother's expected would happen. The power of suggestion is greatly under estimated when it comes to physical symptoms.0 -
Here we go… another person who tries to tell others that their physical symptoms aren't real.
Do you have Celiacs?
No. I have Crohn's and insulin resistance. Both of which require me to eat gluten free as gluten exacerbates the symptoms of Crohn's and insulin resistance.0 -
Self-diagnosis is seriously prone to error and harmful, scary business. Misdiagnosis often results in improper health care, including the wrong treatments and lack of care for serious medical conditions. Why, without any background in medicine whatsoever, would you believe yourself to be a superior source of knowledge to a peer-reviewed scientific study or a medical professional? Stop it. And it is especially unacceptable coming from a moderator of the site.0
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http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/does-non-celiac-gluten-intolerance-actually-exist
This article admits celiac's exists and admits that cutting out gluten does help them. However, their follow up study with those who claim to have a gluten sensitivity found that cutting out the gluten did not help as much as the participants claimed it helped.
Interesting note from a guy who has celiac's disease. He said he was glad people have jumped on the gluten-free bandwagon because there has been an increase of the gluten free foods. So for them, they don't care.
ETA: they articles were a similar. just a different source, I guess.0 -
Here we go… another person who tries to tell others that their physical symptoms aren't real.
Do you have Celiacs?
No. I have Crohn's and insulin resistance. Both of which require me to eat gluten free as gluten exacerbates the symptoms of Crohn's and insulin resistance.
Having Crohn's has nothing to do with gluten, nor has gluten been shown to exacerbate it.
Unlike the gluten-free diet for celiac sprue, which has a well-researched basis, and well-demonstrated track record for affecting the underlying mechanisms at work in the disease process, the SCD does not. Bottom line: it may be worth a try (there are plenty of other diets being touted in the marketplace), but do not abandon your conventional treatment, and keep in touch with your doctor.
http://www.ccfa.org/resources/diet-and-nutrition.html
As for insulin resistance and gluten, I can find zero research that shows going gluten-free helps PCOS symptoms.
You are free to your opinions, but not free to make up facts and state them as such.0 -
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/does-non-celiac-gluten-intolerance-actually-exist
This article admits celiac's exists and admits that cutting out gluten does help them. However, their follow up study with those who claim to have a gluten sensitivity found that cutting out the gluten did not help as much as the participants claimed it helped.
Interesting note from a guy who has celiac's disease. He said he was glad people have jumped on the gluten-free bandwagon because there has been an increase of the gluten free foods. So for them, they don't care.
ETA: they articles were a similar. just a different source, I guess.
I'm celiac and I care. There may be more food options, but people also dismiss the severity of celiac and assume cross contamination isn't an issue because they know 'gluten free' people who can have 'just a bite' or don't have to worry about sharing a toaster. I'd rather there were less food options but people took it more seriously, tbh.0 -
ok, but what about pms?Celiac disease is not gluten sensitivity. Totally different thing...because celiac disease is real.0 -
All I know is that if loving WebMD is wrong, then I don't wanna be right!
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I understand that study involved 37 subjects. Not what I would consider scientifically conclusive. Also screw them.
This exactly.
There are 20 million people in the world who may have a gluten sensitivity. Therefore, a sample size of 37 doesn't mean jack-****. And let's not forget that ONE study is not enough evidence. In fact, there are more studies that prove gluten sensitivity is real.
Statistics is such a difficult class0 -
Here we go… another person who tries to tell others that their physical symptoms aren't real.
Do you have Celiacs?
No. I have Crohn's and insulin resistance. Both of which require me to eat gluten free as gluten exacerbates the symptoms of Crohn's and insulin resistance.
Having Crohn's has nothing to do with gluten, nor has gluten been shown to exacerbate it.
Unlike the gluten-free diet for celiac sprue, which has a well-researched basis, and well-demonstrated track record for affecting the underlying mechanisms at work in the disease process, the SCD does not. Bottom line: it may be worth a try (there are plenty of other diets being touted in the marketplace), but do not abandon your conventional treatment, and keep in touch with your doctor.
http://www.ccfa.org/resources/diet-and-nutrition.html
As for insulin resistance and gluten, I can find zero research that shows going gluten-free helps PCOS symptoms.
You are free to your opinions, but not free to make up facts and state them as such.
I really don't care what you have to say or what research you're able to find or not find. You are not a doctor. All of my doctors told me gluten can exacerbate Crohn's and insulin resistance. That is why I eat gluten free.
P.s. You might want to do better research.
Our data support the beneficial effects of gluten-free diets in reducing adiposity gain, inflammation and insulin resistance. The data suggests that diet gluten exclusion should be tested as a new dietary approach to prevent the development of obesity and metabolic disorders.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23253599
Although not all patients respond equally to diet, many simply remove symptom-provoking foods, such as dairy, wheat, corn and certain fruits and vegetables.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/203502660 -
I'm Jimmy crack corn and I don't care.http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/does-non-celiac-gluten-intolerance-actually-exist
This article admits celiac's exists and admits that cutting out gluten does help them. However, their follow up study with those who claim to have a gluten sensitivity found that cutting out the gluten did not help as much as the participants claimed it helped.
Interesting note from a guy who has celiac's disease. He said he was glad people have jumped on the gluten-free bandwagon because there has been an increase of the gluten free foods. So for them, they don't care.
ETA: they articles were a similar. just a different source, I guess.
I'm celiac and I care. There may be more food options, but people also dismiss the severity of celiac and assume cross contamination isn't an issue because they know 'gluten free' people who can have 'just a bite' or don't have to worry about sharing a toaster. I'd rather there were less food options but people took it more seriously, tbh.0 -
Well, I am not celiac but I can prove that I am gluten sensitive but the foul smelling gas that is emitted from my bowels when I eat gluten .... take my word for it or come visit after a cheat ... your choice :-)
I fart basically all day long. I am sensitive to food, or maybe oxygen or something like that.0 -
oh I'm sorry SHE is Jimmy crack corn and she don't care.Here we go… another person who tries to tell others that their physical symptoms aren't real.
Do you have Celiacs?
No. I have Crohn's and insulin resistance. Both of which require me to eat gluten free as gluten exacerbates the symptoms of Crohn's and insulin resistance.
Having Crohn's has nothing to do with gluten, nor has gluten been shown to exacerbate it.
Unlike the gluten-free diet for celiac sprue, which has a well-researched basis, and well-demonstrated track record for affecting the underlying mechanisms at work in the disease process, the SCD does not. Bottom line: it may be worth a try (there are plenty of other diets being touted in the marketplace), but do not abandon your conventional treatment, and keep in touch with your doctor.
http://www.ccfa.org/resources/diet-and-nutrition.html
As for insulin resistance and gluten, I can find zero research that shows going gluten-free helps PCOS symptoms.
You are free to your opinions, but not free to make up facts and state them as such.
I really don't care what you have to say or what research you're able to find or not find. You are not a doctor. All of my doctors told me gluten can exacerbate Crohn's and insulin resistance. That is why I eat gluten free.0 -
Bacon. The answer to all of life's problems.
Betcha didn't know lots of bacon has gluten used in preparation...
Betcha there are brands that don't because my sister has celiacs and can eat bacon
There are definitely brands of bacon that are gluten-free. When we thought I may be Celiac (before the test came about) we were eating gluten-free bacon... I can't remember the brand though :ohwell:
Edits:Gluten-specific gastrointestinal effects were not reproduced.
This is confusing to me. On one hand they say gluten increased symptoms, on the other they say they couldn't reproduce effects?
This was a crossover study. In the first phase there were two participants whose symptoms worsened when consuming gluten, but not with placebo.
The same was true for the second phase.
But they weren't the same two participants.
Ok, that makes a bit more sense. Thank you
FODMAPs is what gives. Read the study again. I had been told, not self-diagnosed, but told by my GI specialist that I could be gluten-sensitive; yet the idea of FODMAPs being the cause (since it's also eliminated on a GF diet) makes sense to me.I can't believe this is all in her head. But every test says she does not have celiac or an allergy. What gives?
I was told by a GI specialist, yet I am willing to sit on the fence about the issue and at least consider that the study could be right in that FODMAPs are the cause and my gluten-sensitivity may not exist at all. I can't understand why gluten-sensitive patients are getting all riled about this new study. So we were diagnosed with a non-existent illness? So what? Isn't it good news if it means they find the real cause of your symptoms? For those of us diagnosed with IBS and gluten-sensitive, this idea that FODMAPs can induce symptoms means nothing but good news for me; I may have cut out a lot of FODMAPs with cutting out obvious gluten, but there's also a lot of FODMAPs that I consume on a regular basis.0 -
Almost all bacon is gluten free. The only bacon or bacon bits that contain gluten are cheap crap with fillers. But it doesn't matter unless you have Celiac disease, except that it's a shame to eat crap bacon.0
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Almost all bacon is gluten free. The only bacon or bacon bits that contain gluten are cheap crap with fillers. But it doesn't matter unless you have Celiac disease, except that it's a shame to eat crap bacon.
Processed meats like sausages often have fillers, but for bacon it's actually the smoke flavouring that contains the gluten; because they're not actually smoking it, they're adding a liquid that is suppose to taste like smoke. Most bacon contains "smoke".0 -
Not all liquid smoke has gluten.0
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Here we go… another person who tries to tell others that their physical symptoms aren't real.
Do you have Celiacs?
No. I have Crohn's and insulin resistance. Both of which require me to eat gluten free as gluten exacerbates the symptoms of Crohn's and insulin resistance.
Having Crohn's has nothing to do with gluten, nor has gluten been shown to exacerbate it.
Unlike the gluten-free diet for celiac sprue, which has a well-researched basis, and well-demonstrated track record for affecting the underlying mechanisms at work in the disease process, the SCD does not. Bottom line: it may be worth a try (there are plenty of other diets being touted in the marketplace), but do not abandon your conventional treatment, and keep in touch with your doctor.
http://www.ccfa.org/resources/diet-and-nutrition.html
As for insulin resistance and gluten, I can find zero research that shows going gluten-free helps PCOS symptoms.
You are free to your opinions, but not free to make up facts and state them as such.
I really don't care what you have to say or what research you're able to find or not find. You are not a doctor. All of my doctors told me gluten can exacerbate Crohn's and insulin resistance. That is why I eat gluten free.
P.s. You might want to do better research.
Our data support the beneficial effects of gluten-free diets in reducing adiposity gain, inflammation and insulin resistance. The data suggests that diet gluten exclusion should be tested as a new dietary approach to prevent the development of obesity and metabolic disorders.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23253599
Although not all patients respond equally to diet, many simply remove symptom-provoking foods, such as dairy, wheat, corn and certain fruits and vegetables.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20350266
How many of the foods you listed contain gluten?
How many contain FODMAPs?0 -
Not all liquid smoke has gluten.
Yet because they rarely specify whether or not the smoke used has gluten, Celiacs need to treat it as though it does contain gluten. Just like maltodextrin, just like "spices", etc etc etc. Not all those ingredients will contain gluten, yet rarely do they specify. Therefore, all smoke, maltodextrin, "flavour", "spices" et al need to be treated as though it contains gluten. After many months of having to inspect every last ingredient on a list I got use to saying "it's got gluten" whenever I saw any of the suspect ingredients.
Edit:How many of the foods you listed contain gluten?
How many contain FODMAPs
Exactly. Don't get me wrong, I won't completely disregard my diagnosis but I also will not completely disregard this study.0 -
Yep....that's why people who have celiac disease must eliminate all gluten from their diet in order to be relieved of their symptoms. If they continue to eat gluten, their symptoms worsen and celiac disease progresses, which can be life threatening.It doesn't exist.
This has been proven by the researchers who originally provided evidence of its existence. Their followup research shows that there is no such thing.
http://www.businessinsider.com/gluten-sensitivity-and-study-replication-2014-5
That article comes across as pretty biased.0 -
businessinsider.com?
I guess gluten sensitivity is big business now, huh?0 -
These threads always remind me of that scene from House, M.D. where Dr. Wilson tells Cuddy's mother that the whole "sugar-makes-kids-hyperactive-thing" is a myth and says "there's a study", to which she responds "I'm sure it's very interesting. I didn't read any studies. I just raised children."0
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In. Just in case it keeps going...cause it's fun! :laugh:0
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These threads always remind me of that scene from House, M.D. where Dr. Wilson tells Cuddy's mother that the whole "sugar-makes-kids-hyperactive-thing" is a myth and says "there's a study", to which she responds "I'm sure it's very interesting. I didn't read any studies. I just raised children."
That is a legit study that's been repeated multiple times and is true though. Parents just perceive their children to be hyperactive when they were told they ingested sugar, regardless of if they actually had or not.
But I get your point.0
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