Why Aspartame Isn't Scary
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cross2bear wrote: »For me, some sweeteners, like Stevia, dont taste sweet to me at all - even if I use a tablespoon of the stuff in a mug of tea or coffee it just tastes peculiar, whereas a product like Splenda DOES taste sweet to me, so I use one packet - same with Equal. I still keep sugar in the house, but also use artificial stuff in some baking recipes. the other day I made an Asian short ribs recipe in the crockpot and used brown sugar Twin as a sub for the brown sugar in the recipe. Turned out great.
It has, literally, never crossed my mind to buy artificial sweeteners to bake with. Can you tell a difference if you were to make cookies using an artificial sweetener? I have no aversions to them... just never thought of it. Every great now and then I get a headache from diet coke from the bottle, but I think that's diet cokes fault, diet pepsi has never. As I'm typing that, I realize it's probably in my head. Haha.
Some people can apparently tell the difference - I can't. At least, not if I (OK, my wife) use the Splenda that is specifically for baking.
I might have to try this with chocolate chip cookies. Baked goods are my kryptonite. I feel like someone just told me pigs can fly, I'm a little too excited about this way over due, epiphany/realization/duh moment.
OP, I've been following this thread since you first created it. I've learned a lot. Around this same time, people started coming out with how scary AF's were. I love me some diet coke and jack.. mmm. Cheers!2 -
Avocado_Angel wrote: »Good to hear that it's safe ! I use sweeteners in my tea and sometimes wondered if it was bad for me. On a side note I am sure they performed lab tests and asparatme caused cancer or something in mice ?
Nope. The rats got cancer at a slightly lower rate than they normally do. This does not mean that aspartame prevents cancer, or anything. Just that it didn't cause it. Unfortunately, the media typically has no clue regarding science and just looked at the one number and ran with it, not realizing that the result was negative.4 -
cross2bear wrote: »For me, some sweeteners, like Stevia, dont taste sweet to me at all - even if I use a tablespoon of the stuff in a mug of tea or coffee it just tastes peculiar, whereas a product like Splenda DOES taste sweet to me, so I use one packet - same with Equal. I still keep sugar in the house, but also use artificial stuff in some baking recipes. the other day I made an Asian short ribs recipe in the crockpot and used brown sugar Twin as a sub for the brown sugar in the recipe. Turned out great.
It has, literally, never crossed my mind to buy artificial sweeteners to bake with. Can you tell a difference if you were to make cookies using an artificial sweetener? I have no aversions to them... just never thought of it. Every great now and then I get a headache from diet coke from the bottle, but I think that's diet cokes fault, diet pepsi has never. As I'm typing that, I realize it's probably in my head. Haha.
I can tell the difference, but it's clearly an individual thing.
It's also very dependent on the specific cookie. I'd be more likely to be fooled if the cookie had a strong flavor than if it were a simple butter or sugar cookie.1 -
cross2bear wrote: »For me, some sweeteners, like Stevia, dont taste sweet to me at all - even if I use a tablespoon of the stuff in a mug of tea or coffee it just tastes peculiar, whereas a product like Splenda DOES taste sweet to me, so I use one packet - same with Equal. I still keep sugar in the house, but also use artificial stuff in some baking recipes. the other day I made an Asian short ribs recipe in the crockpot and used brown sugar Twin as a sub for the brown sugar in the recipe. Turned out great.
It has, literally, never crossed my mind to buy artificial sweeteners to bake with. Can you tell a difference if you were to make cookies using an artificial sweetener? I have no aversions to them... just never thought of it. Every great now and then I get a headache from diet coke from the bottle, but I think that's diet cokes fault, diet pepsi has never. As I'm typing that, I realize it's probably in my head. Haha.
Splenda baked goods will brown a bit faster. Splenda with brown sugar.....is just half Splenda and half regular brown sugar, so no need to buy a separate product. Dark brown sugar is going to have a stronger flavor, so cutting back wouldn't be as noticeable.1 -
You can also buy xylitol or erythritol for baking. Xylitol has calories, but fewer than sugar.1
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Avocado_Angel wrote: »Good to hear that it's safe ! I use sweeteners in my tea and sometimes wondered if it was bad for me. On a side note I am sure they performed lab tests and asparatme caused cancer or something in mice ?
Nope. The rats got cancer at a slightly lower rate than they normally do. This does not mean that aspartame prevents cancer, or anything. Just that it didn't cause it. Unfortunately, the media typically has no clue regarding science and just looked at the one number and ran with it, not realizing that the result was negative.
It's also worth noting that the rats were fed supraphysical doses of aspartame. I forget the exact number, but it equated to something like the human equivalent of drinking 17 cases of diet soda per day.5 -
cross2bear wrote: »For me, some sweeteners, like Stevia, dont taste sweet to me at all - even if I use a tablespoon of the stuff in a mug of tea or coffee it just tastes peculiar, whereas a product like Splenda DOES taste sweet to me, so I use one packet - same with Equal. I still keep sugar in the house, but also use artificial stuff in some baking recipes. the other day I made an Asian short ribs recipe in the crockpot and used brown sugar Twin as a sub for the brown sugar in the recipe. Turned out great.
It has, literally, never crossed my mind to buy artificial sweeteners to bake with. Can you tell a difference if you were to make cookies using an artificial sweetener? I have no aversions to them... just never thought of it. Every great now and then I get a headache from diet coke from the bottle, but I think that's diet cokes fault, diet pepsi has never. As I'm typing that, I realize it's probably in my head. Haha.
My sister in law's boyfriend is diabetic so I made a baked cheesecake using Splenda as a sugar substitute (first time ever) and it turned out great..... we all smashed it and he took the rest home to gorge on2 -
https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?2 -
WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.10 -
WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
You mean this part?
"Should I limit my exposure to aspartame?
Aside from the effects in people with phenylketonuria, no health problems have been consistently linked to aspartame use. Research on artificial sweeteners, including aspartame, continues today."
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Tacklewasher wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
You mean this part?
"Should I limit my exposure to aspartame?
Aside from the effects in people with phenylketonuria, no health problems have been consistently linked to aspartame use. Research on artificial sweeteners, including aspartame, continues today."
Yep, that's the one...5 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
You mean this part?
"Should I limit my exposure to aspartame?
Aside from the effects in people with phenylketonuria, no health problems have been consistently linked to aspartame use. Research on artificial sweeteners, including aspartame, continues today."
Yep, that's the one...
That's what I thought.4 -
Phenyketonuria (PKU) is a very rare specific genetic disease in which people have to have a VERY restricted diet from infancy.
whatever the recomendations for people with PKU, they apply to a very small subset of population and nobody has PKU without knowing they have it.
Irelevant to the vast majority of us and not telling people with PKU anything they dont already know.
ie the article is saying aspartame is fine for everyone else - which is all of us on here.
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perseverance14 wrote: »This was around 1995, the Internet was just getting started, and I didn't know about any "danger" websites, which did not exist at the time. I did one of the first 20,000 sites on the Internet and that was in 1995, trust
Wow, you look WAYYYY too young!
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WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
The article did not say there were no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame as I read it. It said something like data about health concerns over aspartame were not consistent.
Below are some posts by concerned consumers that shows there are others with health concerns.
epilepsy.com/connect/forums/women-epilepsy/aspartame-poisioning-linked-lupus-fibromyalgia-ms-and-seizures
"For 16 years, the FDA refused to approve aspartame. In fact, the FDA’s own toxicologist told Congress that: “Without a shadow of a doubt, aspartame can cause brain tumors and brain cancer and violated the Delaney Amendment, which forbids putting anything in food that is known to cause cancer.” — FDA Toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross"
I think the question marks about Aspartame being safe for all groups of humans have not been clearly answered by science to the satisfaction of all consumers. While I can not speak for others drinks containing aspartame caused me some discomfort back when I still consumed it. That is in no way proof it is safe or not safe for others. We are all different.1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
The article did not say there were no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame as I read it. It said something like data about health concerns over aspartame were not consistent.
epilepsy.com/connect/forums/women-epilepsy/aspartame-poisioning-linked-lupus-fibromyalgia-ms-and-seizures
"For 16 years, the FDA refused to approve aspartame. In fact, the FDA’s own toxicologist told Congress that: “Without a shadow of a doubt, aspartame can cause brain tumors and brain cancer and violated the Delaney Amendment, which forbids putting anything in food that is known to cause cancer.” — FDA Toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross"
I think the question marks about Aspartame being safe for all groups of humans have not been clearly answered by science to the satisfaction of all consumers. While I can not speak for others drinks containing aspartame caused me some discomfort back when I still consumed it. That is in no way proof it is safe or not safe for others. We are all different.
Having aspartame cause you "some discomfort" does not equate in any manner to whether or not a product is safe to consume - for you or anyone else. It just shows that for you, the product didn't agree with you for whatever reason. 4 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
The article did not say there were no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame as I read it. It said something like data about health concerns over aspartame were not consistent.
epilepsy.com/connect/forums/women-epilepsy/aspartame-poisioning-linked-lupus-fibromyalgia-ms-and-seizures
"For 16 years, the FDA refused to approve aspartame. In fact, the FDA’s own toxicologist told Congress that: “Without a shadow of a doubt, aspartame can cause brain tumors and brain cancer and violated the Delaney Amendment, which forbids putting anything in food that is known to cause cancer.” — FDA Toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross"
I think the question marks about Aspartame being safe for all groups of humans have not been clearly answered by science to the satisfaction of all consumers. While I can not speak for others drinks containing aspartame caused me some discomfort back when I still consumed it. That is in no way proof it is safe or not safe for others. We are all different.
Having aspartame cause you "some discomfort" does not equate in any manner to whether or not a product is safe to consume - for you or anyone else. It just shows that for you, the product didn't agree with you for whatever reason.
Very true. It is the science folks concerns about the safety of humans consuming aspartame that concerns me more that what consumers may or may not say.1 -
At the risk of perpetuating this conversation,
"Should I limit my exposure to aspartame?
Aside from the effects in people with phenylketonuria, no health problems have been consistently linked to aspartame use. Research on artificial sweeteners, including aspartame, continues today."5 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
The article did not say there were no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame as I read it. It said something like data about health concerns over aspartame were not consistent.
epilepsy.com/connect/forums/women-epilepsy/aspartame-poisioning-linked-lupus-fibromyalgia-ms-and-seizures
"For 16 years, the FDA refused to approve aspartame. In fact, the FDA’s own toxicologist told Congress that: “Without a shadow of a doubt, aspartame can cause brain tumors and brain cancer and violated the Delaney Amendment, which forbids putting anything in food that is known to cause cancer.” — FDA Toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross"
I think the question marks about Aspartame being safe for all groups of humans have not been clearly answered by science to the satisfaction of all consumers. While I can not speak for others drinks containing aspartame caused me some discomfort back when I still consumed it. That is in no way proof it is safe or not safe for others. We are all different.
Having aspartame cause you "some discomfort" does not equate in any manner to whether or not a product is safe to consume - for you or anyone else. It just shows that for you, the product didn't agree with you for whatever reason.
Very true. It is the science folks concerns about the safety of humans consuming aspartame that concerns me more that what consumers may or may not say.
Well that's great news then! Since the "science folks" all agree that there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame in humans, aside from the very specific situation of people with PKU. I think disregarding what consumers say/feel and how they may correlate things to their consumption of aspartame is wise. That's basically what this thread is about - that aspartame is one of the most studied food additives of all time and there has never been any scientific evidence that there is anything to be concerned about, when consuming aspartame in moderation. So in summary, even though you don't consume aspartame, because you[/b] don't care for the taste of it... those of us who do can be confident that it will not be harmful to our health.10 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
The article did not say there were no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame as I read it. It said something like data about health concerns over aspartame were not consistent.
epilepsy.com/connect/forums/women-epilepsy/aspartame-poisioning-linked-lupus-fibromyalgia-ms-and-seizures
"For 16 years, the FDA refused to approve aspartame. In fact, the FDA’s own toxicologist told Congress that: “Without a shadow of a doubt, aspartame can cause brain tumors and brain cancer and violated the Delaney Amendment, which forbids putting anything in food that is known to cause cancer.” — FDA Toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross"
I think the question marks about Aspartame being safe for all groups of humans have not been clearly answered by science to the satisfaction of all consumers. While I can not speak for others drinks containing aspartame caused me some discomfort back when I still consumed it. That is in no way proof it is safe or not safe for others. We are all different.
Having aspartame cause you "some discomfort" does not equate in any manner to whether or not a product is safe to consume - for you or anyone else. It just shows that for you, the product didn't agree with you for whatever reason.
Very true. It is the science folks concerns about the safety of humans consuming aspartame that concerns me more that what consumers may or may not say.
The "science folks" don't have concerns.7 -
janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
The article did not say there were no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame as I read it. It said something like data about health concerns over aspartame were not consistent.
epilepsy.com/connect/forums/women-epilepsy/aspartame-poisioning-linked-lupus-fibromyalgia-ms-and-seizures
"For 16 years, the FDA refused to approve aspartame. In fact, the FDA’s own toxicologist told Congress that: “Without a shadow of a doubt, aspartame can cause brain tumors and brain cancer and violated the Delaney Amendment, which forbids putting anything in food that is known to cause cancer.” — FDA Toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross"
I think the question marks about Aspartame being safe for all groups of humans have not been clearly answered by science to the satisfaction of all consumers. While I can not speak for others drinks containing aspartame caused me some discomfort back when I still consumed it. That is in no way proof it is safe or not safe for others. We are all different.
Having aspartame cause you "some discomfort" does not equate in any manner to whether or not a product is safe to consume - for you or anyone else. It just shows that for you, the product didn't agree with you for whatever reason.
Very true. It is the science folks concerns about the safety of humans consuming aspartame that concerns me more that what consumers may or may not say.
The "science folks" don't have concerns.
What about the 20+ science folks at the bottom of the article below:
janethull.com/healthynews/blog/2015/03/dont-be-sold-a-can-of-diet-propaganda/
I think aspartame breaking down inside of the body to form formaldehyde is my top health risk concern in my case
https://fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/Jan03/012203/02P-0317_emc-000196.txt
"I would like to clear up a few issues related to the aspartame issue. The
evidence related to toxicity of aspartame is found primarily in three
areas:
1. Formaldehyde Exposure. The formaldehyde exposure from aspartame
is significant. Aspartame breaks down into methanol, amino acids
and several other chemicals. The methanol is quickly absorbed and
converted into formaldehyde. The methanol found in foods and
alcoholic beverages is also absorbed, but there are "protective
chemicals" in these traditionally-ingested foods and beverages that
prevent the conversion of methanol to formaldehyde.
Formaldehyde is known to cause gradual damage to the nervous system,
the immune system and has recently been shown to cause irreversible
genetic damage at long-term, low-level exposure.......
2. Independent research finds problems with aspartame. An analysis of peer
reviewed medical literature using MEDLINE and other databases was
conducted by Ralph G. Walton, MD, Chairman, The Center for Behavioral
Medicine, Professor of Clinical Psychiatry, Northeastern Ohio
Universities College of Medicine. Dr. Walton analyzed 164 studies which
were felt to have relevance to human safety questions. Of the 90
non-industry-sponsored (independent) studies, 83 (92%) identified one
or more problems with aspartame. Of the 74 aspartame industry-sponsored
studies, all 74 (100%) claimed that no problems were found with
aspartame.
3. Extremely large number of reported toxicity reactions to aspartame.
As of 1995 when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was quoted
as saying they stopped accepting adverse reaction reports on aspartame,
over 75% of the adverse reactions reported to the FDA Adverse Reaction
Monitoring System (ARMS) were due to aspartame. Afte considering the
fact that an extremely low percentage of adverse reactions are reported
to the FDA, it becomes clear that there are millions of known cases of
aspartame toxicity reactions and possibly many other cases where the
person ingesting aspartame is either 1) unaware that their symptoms
are caused or contributed to by aspartame; or 2) not yet experiencing
clinically-obvious symptoms from the breakdown products of aspartame,
but may eventually experience chronic health problems from the regular
exposure to significant doses of formaldehyde.
Some of the many aspartame toxicity symptoms reported include seizures,
headaches, memory loss, tremors, convulsions, vision loss, nausea,
dizziness, conufsion, depression, irritability, anxiety attacks,
personality changes, heart palpitationns, chest pains, skin diseases,
loss of blood sugar control, arthritic symptoms, weight gain (in some
cases), fluid retention, excessive thirst or urination. Clearly,
regular exposure to a toxic substance such as formaldehyde may
worsen, or in some cases contribute to the development of chronic
diseases........."1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
The article did not say there were no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame as I read it. It said something like data about health concerns over aspartame were not consistent.
epilepsy.com/connect/forums/women-epilepsy/aspartame-poisioning-linked-lupus-fibromyalgia-ms-and-seizures
"For 16 years, the FDA refused to approve aspartame. In fact, the FDA’s own toxicologist told Congress that: “Without a shadow of a doubt, aspartame can cause brain tumors and brain cancer and violated the Delaney Amendment, which forbids putting anything in food that is known to cause cancer.” — FDA Toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross"
I think the question marks about Aspartame being safe for all groups of humans have not been clearly answered by science to the satisfaction of all consumers. While I can not speak for others drinks containing aspartame caused me some discomfort back when I still consumed it. That is in no way proof it is safe or not safe for others. We are all different.
Having aspartame cause you "some discomfort" does not equate in any manner to whether or not a product is safe to consume - for you or anyone else. It just shows that for you, the product didn't agree with you for whatever reason.
Very true. It is the science folks concerns about the safety of humans consuming aspartame that concerns me more that what consumers may or may not say.
The "science folks" don't have concerns.
What about the 20+ science folks at the bottom of the article below:
janethull.com/healthynews/blog/2015/03/dont-be-sold-a-can-of-diet-propaganda/
I think aspartame breaking down inside of the body to form formaldehyde is my top health risk concern in my case
https://fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/Jan03/012203/02P-0317_emc-000196.txt
"I would like to clear up a few issues related to the aspartame issue. The
evidence related to toxicity of aspartame is found primarily in three
areas:
1. Formaldehyde Exposure. The formaldehyde exposure from aspartame
is significant. Aspartame breaks down into methanol, amino acids
and several other chemicals. The methanol is quickly absorbed and
converted into formaldehyde. The methanol found in foods and
alcoholic beverages is also absorbed, but there are "protective
chemicals" in these traditionally-ingested foods and beverages that
prevent the conversion of methanol to formaldehyde.
Formaldehyde is known to cause gradual damage to the nervous system,
the immune system and has recently been shown to cause irreversible
genetic damage at long-term, low-level exposure.......
2. Independent research finds problems with aspartame. An analysis of peer
reviewed medical literature using MEDLINE and other databases was
conducted by Ralph G. Walton, MD, Chairman, The Center for Behavioral
Medicine, Professor of Clinical Psychiatry, Northeastern Ohio
Universities College of Medicine. Dr. Walton analyzed 164 studies which
were felt to have relevance to human safety questions. Of the 90
non-industry-sponsored (independent) studies, 83 (92%) identified one
or more problems with aspartame. Of the 74 aspartame industry-sponsored
studies, all 74 (100%) claimed that no problems were found with
aspartame.
3. Extremely large number of reported toxicity reactions to aspartame.
As of 1995 when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was quoted
as saying they stopped accepting adverse reaction reports on aspartame,
over 75% of the adverse reactions reported to the FDA Adverse Reaction
Monitoring System (ARMS) were due to aspartame. Afte considering the
fact that an extremely low percentage of adverse reactions are reported
to the FDA, it becomes clear that there are millions of known cases of
aspartame toxicity reactions and possibly many other cases where the
person ingesting aspartame is either 1) unaware that their symptoms
are caused or contributed to by aspartame; or 2) not yet experiencing
clinically-obvious symptoms from the breakdown products of aspartame,
but may eventually experience chronic health problems from the regular
exposure to significant doses of formaldehyde.
Some of the many aspartame toxicity symptoms reported include seizures,
headaches, memory loss, tremors, convulsions, vision loss, nausea,
dizziness, conufsion, depression, irritability, anxiety attacks,
personality changes, heart palpitationns, chest pains, skin diseases,
loss of blood sugar control, arthritic symptoms, weight gain (in some
cases), fluid retention, excessive thirst or urination. Clearly,
regular exposure to a toxic substance such as formaldehyde may
worsen, or in some cases contribute to the development of chronic
diseases........."
I Googled one of those twenty "science folks" at random (since none of their qualifications or research were listed in the blog post). George M Wolverton is a family practice doctor in Indiana who pushes the "alkaline diet" baloney. What personal research has he done? We can't tell from the post, but as a family practice doctor I have to question whether he is qualified to draw conclusions on the subject.
Again, some critical thinking on your part when it comes to sources and claims would help you a great deal. You take everything in and show little ability to constructively challenge information when it agrees with your pre-determined worldview. As a result, you are constantly advancing sources and claims that are worse than useless -- they're actively detrimental to forming an educated conclusion on the subject.14 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
The article did not say there were no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame as I read it. It said something like data about health concerns over aspartame were not consistent.
epilepsy.com/connect/forums/women-epilepsy/aspartame-poisioning-linked-lupus-fibromyalgia-ms-and-seizures
"For 16 years, the FDA refused to approve aspartame. In fact, the FDA’s own toxicologist told Congress that: “Without a shadow of a doubt, aspartame can cause brain tumors and brain cancer and violated the Delaney Amendment, which forbids putting anything in food that is known to cause cancer.” — FDA Toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross"
I think the question marks about Aspartame being safe for all groups of humans have not been clearly answered by science to the satisfaction of all consumers. While I can not speak for others drinks containing aspartame caused me some discomfort back when I still consumed it. That is in no way proof it is safe or not safe for others. We are all different.
Having aspartame cause you "some discomfort" does not equate in any manner to whether or not a product is safe to consume - for you or anyone else. It just shows that for you, the product didn't agree with you for whatever reason.
Very true. It is the science folks concerns about the safety of humans consuming aspartame that concerns me more that what consumers may or may not say.
The "science folks" don't have concerns.
What about the 20+ science folks at the bottom of the article below:
janethull.com/healthynews/blog/2015/03/dont-be-sold-a-can-of-diet-propaganda/
I think aspartame breaking down inside of the body to form formaldehyde is my top health risk concern in my case
https://fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/Jan03/012203/02P-0317_emc-000196.txt
"I would like to clear up a few issues related to the aspartame issue. The
evidence related to toxicity of aspartame is found primarily in three
areas:
1. Formaldehyde Exposure. The formaldehyde exposure from aspartame
is significant. Aspartame breaks down into methanol, amino acids
and several other chemicals. The methanol is quickly absorbed and
converted into formaldehyde. The methanol found in foods and
alcoholic beverages is also absorbed, but there are "protective
chemicals" in these traditionally-ingested foods and beverages that
prevent the conversion of methanol to formaldehyde.
Formaldehyde is known to cause gradual damage to the nervous system,
the immune system and has recently been shown to cause irreversible
genetic damage at long-term, low-level exposure.......
2. Independent research finds problems with aspartame. An analysis of peer
reviewed medical literature using MEDLINE and other databases was
conducted by Ralph G. Walton, MD, Chairman, The Center for Behavioral
Medicine, Professor of Clinical Psychiatry, Northeastern Ohio
Universities College of Medicine. Dr. Walton analyzed 164 studies which
were felt to have relevance to human safety questions. Of the 90
non-industry-sponsored (independent) studies, 83 (92%) identified one
or more problems with aspartame. Of the 74 aspartame industry-sponsored
studies, all 74 (100%) claimed that no problems were found with
aspartame.
3. Extremely large number of reported toxicity reactions to aspartame.
As of 1995 when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was quoted
as saying they stopped accepting adverse reaction reports on aspartame,
over 75% of the adverse reactions reported to the FDA Adverse Reaction
Monitoring System (ARMS) were due to aspartame. Afte considering the
fact that an extremely low percentage of adverse reactions are reported
to the FDA, it becomes clear that there are millions of known cases of
aspartame toxicity reactions and possibly many other cases where the
person ingesting aspartame is either 1) unaware that their symptoms
are caused or contributed to by aspartame; or 2) not yet experiencing
clinically-obvious symptoms from the breakdown products of aspartame,
but may eventually experience chronic health problems from the regular
exposure to significant doses of formaldehyde.
Some of the many aspartame toxicity symptoms reported include seizures,
headaches, memory loss, tremors, convulsions, vision loss, nausea,
dizziness, conufsion, depression, irritability, anxiety attacks,
personality changes, heart palpitationns, chest pains, skin diseases,
loss of blood sugar control, arthritic symptoms, weight gain (in some
cases), fluid retention, excessive thirst or urination. Clearly,
regular exposure to a toxic substance such as formaldehyde may
worsen, or in some cases contribute to the development of chronic
diseases........."
This isn't evidence. It's an email from a holistic doctor, none of which is backed up by actual research.15 -
Gale:
Issue 1: Formaldehyde formation has already been addressed multiple times in this thread - drinking fruit juice or eating fruit has the same result - should we then give up fruit and juice?
Issue 2: where are the studies that they are quoting from (I would like to see them and see how they came to their conclusions).
As for issue 3 that you report - sure, there are lots of reports to the FDA about how aspartame is causing problems - the vast majority of which are self reported and not verified by a Dr or anybody else (like Joe Blow on the street saying I gave up xxxx and magically all of my problems in life were cured).3 -
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GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/aspartame.html
After I got off of all sweeteners it does not taste good to me but this is from the ACS on the subject.
And what is your interpretation of this article? What conclusions have you drawn from it?
I just took it at face value.
Excellent. Since the conclusion is largely the same as the title of this thread "Aspartame Isn't Scary" and that aside from a very specific diagnosed medical condition (PKU), then there are no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame.
The article did not say there were no health concerns linked to the consumption of aspartame as I read it. It said something like data about health concerns over aspartame were not consistent.
epilepsy.com/connect/forums/women-epilepsy/aspartame-poisioning-linked-lupus-fibromyalgia-ms-and-seizures
"For 16 years, the FDA refused to approve aspartame. In fact, the FDA’s own toxicologist told Congress that: “Without a shadow of a doubt, aspartame can cause brain tumors and brain cancer and violated the Delaney Amendment, which forbids putting anything in food that is known to cause cancer.” — FDA Toxicologist, Dr. Adrian Gross"
I think the question marks about Aspartame being safe for all groups of humans have not been clearly answered by science to the satisfaction of all consumers. While I can not speak for others drinks containing aspartame caused me some discomfort back when I still consumed it. That is in no way proof it is safe or not safe for others. We are all different.
Having aspartame cause you "some discomfort" does not equate in any manner to whether or not a product is safe to consume - for you or anyone else. It just shows that for you, the product didn't agree with you for whatever reason.
Very true. It is the science folks concerns about the safety of humans consuming aspartame that concerns me more that what consumers may or may not say.
The "science folks" don't have concerns.
What about the 20+ science folks at the bottom of the article below:
janethull.com/healthynews/blog/2015/03/dont-be-sold-a-can-of-diet-propaganda/
I think aspartame breaking down inside of the body to form formaldehyde is my top health risk concern in my case
https://fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/Jan03/012203/02P-0317_emc-000196.txt
"I would like to clear up a few issues related to the aspartame issue. The
evidence related to toxicity of aspartame is found primarily in three
areas:
1. Formaldehyde Exposure. The formaldehyde exposure from aspartame
is significant. Aspartame breaks down into methanol, amino acids
and several other chemicals. The methanol is quickly absorbed and
converted into formaldehyde. The methanol found in foods and
alcoholic beverages is also absorbed, but there are "protective
chemicals" in these traditionally-ingested foods and beverages that
prevent the conversion of methanol to formaldehyde.
Formaldehyde is known to cause gradual damage to the nervous system,
the immune system and has recently been shown to cause irreversible
genetic damage at long-term, low-level exposure.......
2. Independent research finds problems with aspartame. An analysis of peer
reviewed medical literature using MEDLINE and other databases was
conducted by Ralph G. Walton, MD, Chairman, The Center for Behavioral
Medicine, Professor of Clinical Psychiatry, Northeastern Ohio
Universities College of Medicine. Dr. Walton analyzed 164 studies which
were felt to have relevance to human safety questions. Of the 90
non-industry-sponsored (independent) studies, 83 (92%) identified one
or more problems with aspartame. Of the 74 aspartame industry-sponsored
studies, all 74 (100%) claimed that no problems were found with
aspartame.
3. Extremely large number of reported toxicity reactions to aspartame.
As of 1995 when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was quoted
as saying they stopped accepting adverse reaction reports on aspartame,
over 75% of the adverse reactions reported to the FDA Adverse Reaction
Monitoring System (ARMS) were due to aspartame. Afte considering the
fact that an extremely low percentage of adverse reactions are reported
to the FDA, it becomes clear that there are millions of known cases of
aspartame toxicity reactions and possibly many other cases where the
person ingesting aspartame is either 1) unaware that their symptoms
are caused or contributed to by aspartame; or 2) not yet experiencing
clinically-obvious symptoms from the breakdown products of aspartame,
but may eventually experience chronic health problems from the regular
exposure to significant doses of formaldehyde.
Some of the many aspartame toxicity symptoms reported include seizures,
headaches, memory loss, tremors, convulsions, vision loss, nausea,
dizziness, conufsion, depression, irritability, anxiety attacks,
personality changes, heart palpitationns, chest pains, skin diseases,
loss of blood sugar control, arthritic symptoms, weight gain (in some
cases), fluid retention, excessive thirst or urination. Clearly,
regular exposure to a toxic substance such as formaldehyde may
worsen, or in some cases contribute to the development of chronic
diseases........."
You may start drinking it again, the idea that the amount of methanol/formaldehyde as a result of aspartame metabolism is "significant" is an outright lie.
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Avocado_Angel wrote: »It wouldn't be on sale if it was bad for us. Oh wait, they sell tobacco, alcohol and a trillion other products that are bad for us. Consumed in high amounts everything is bad for us. I think that's what I'm taking away from this. I often wonder if I'm better just putting plain old sugar in my tea. At least I know where I stand with that, been around for years and....oh wait i heard that causes cancer as well. Maybe just everything in moderation and it's ok. But why risk it ? But the fact is we do. We are bombarded with stuff almost on the daily. End up not knowing who to believe
Do you drive a car? If so, you are at a higher risk of death than the increased risk of drinking or consuming aspartame. To increase the risk of issues from aspartame, you would have to drink 17 two liter bottles a day.4 -
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