Is fruit fattening?
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sugar is sugar is sugar. However, if you're concerned about how the sugar you're eating affects your body, for example - whether or not it causes an insulin spike, check out the glycemic load of a given item. If you ate 11 grams of straight sugar or a small apple, you're getting the same amount of sugar, but the effect of that sugar on your body will be mitigated by the fiber etc in the apple. straight sugar will have a high glycemic load, many fruits and vegetables have a low glycemic load.0
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Oh do keep the fear mongering going, you're on a roll.0 -
Sure. Get down on a goat for having a nice meal. Next you'll tell me having breakfast and reading the morning paper is creepy, too.
I like it. Sometimes I have trouble opening a bottle of wine
Don't forget koolaid!
Creeps me out BIG time!
My pants always go missing when wine is involved0 -
Oh do keep the fear mongering going, you're on a roll.
It isn't fear mongering, it is recognizing human psychology. I work with a lot of overweight people as a nutritionist and personal trainer. Every single one of them says the same thing. "I eat in moderation, but I can't lose weight". I ask them for a food log, and I find their concept of moderation is very different what I would consider moderation. Only one cupcake a day to them compared to only two cupcakes a year to me. I tell them "You moderation is purely subjective, and if you are overweight, your subjective view of moderation is obviously not conducive to maintaining a healthy weight. "0 -
"Show me someone that got diabetes from eating too many strawberries and I'll eat my hat."
-a scientist in an article I read a long time ago. It's an oldie but a goodie so I can't help sharing wherever appropriate.0 -
As a rule, no fruit in iteself is not fattening but eating too much of anything is. Overall calories is what matters most.0
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the sugars in fruits are WAY healthier than all the sugars found in artificial processed junk. even if you eat the same number of calories and sugar from an apple and some synthesised piece of crap in a plastic wrapper that probably contains all sorts of chemicals that mess up your hormones and may lead to weight gain in the long term , im all in on natural healthy whole foods
I raise your run on sentence with 4 twinkies. 4 twinkies vs the same calories and sugar content as fruit. Difference? Fruit will probably have more vitamins, minerals, and fiber. The sugar will be digested the same. My body doesn't care where it comes from. If I've already gotten the necessary nutrients my body needs, there's nothing wrong with twinkies within my calorie goal.
If you're getting your daily nutrients (aka all the vitamins, minerals, etc) that your body needs, there's nothing wrong with any food. You can label it, demonize it, maybe even put some devil horns on it, it doesn't matter. Calories in vs out for weight loss. Balancing your nutrient intake for health.
even if it has the same calories, the compounds in twinkies are certainly a no no for health, have you seen the ingredient list; hydrogenated oil, high fructose corn syrup, lard, not to mention all the artificial colours!!!! and its not only about weight loss its about being healthy in your life and that twinkie path is not the right one to take
Oh the horror..chemicals are in everything. Everything can keeel you. Lol I guess you missed the part about meeting your nutrient needs and moderation, no? Too busy thinking about them delicious twinkies and their cream filling
thats exactly the point, ( even though you probably meant to say it in a sarcastic way), there are chemicals in so many of our foods, even innocent things like that crispy apple may contain up to 50 different pesticides, 7 of which are carcinogenic. the only way to ensure you are removing these from your diet is by eating organic produce, oh and those "delicious twinkies and their cream filling" are slices of fake ingredients pumped up with chemicals and additives with a creamy filling of sugar, fat and who the hell knows what0 -
As a rule, no fruit in iteself is not fattening but eating too much of anything is. Overall calories is what matters most.
Yes there was a study just last week that said fat does not make you fat.
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Lol. All high and mighty.
Oh do keep the fear mongering going, you're on a roll.
It isn't fear mongering, it is recognizing human psychology. I work with a lot of overweight people as a nutritionist and personal trainer. Every single one of them says the same thing. "I eat in moderation, but I can't lose weight". I ask them for a food log, and I find their concept of moderation is very different what I would consider moderation. Only one cupcake a day to them compared to only two cupcakes a year to me. I tell them "You moderation is purely subjective, and if you are overweight, your subjective view of moderation is obviously not conducive to maintaining a healthy weight. "
Life would not be worth living if I could only eat two cupcakes per year. But...that's just me and I love to bake. I've also always been a healthy weight...I use this site to maintain or lose a little after work travel. 0 -
the sugars in fruits are WAY healthier than all the sugars found in artificial processed junk. even if you eat the same number of calories and sugar from an apple and some synthesised piece of crap in a plastic wrapper that probably contains all sorts of chemicals that mess up your hormones and may lead to weight gain in the long term , im all in on natural healthy whole foods
I raise your run on sentence with 4 twinkies. 4 twinkies vs the same calories and sugar content as fruit. Difference? Fruit will probably have more vitamins, minerals, and fiber. The sugar will be digested the same. My body doesn't care where it comes from. If I've already gotten the necessary nutrients my body needs, there's nothing wrong with twinkies within my calorie goal.
If you're getting your daily nutrients (aka all the vitamins, minerals, etc) that your body needs, there's nothing wrong with any food. You can label it, demonize it, maybe even put some devil horns on it, it doesn't matter. Calories in vs out for weight loss. Balancing your nutrient intake for health.
even if it has the same calories, the compounds in twinkies are certainly a no no for health, have you seen the ingredient list; hydrogenated oil, high fructose corn syrup, lard, not to mention all the artificial colours!!!! and its not only about weight loss its about being healthy in your life and that twinkie path is not the right one to take
Oh the horror..chemicals are in everything. Everything can keeel you. Lol I guess you missed the part about meeting your nutrient needs and moderation, no? Too busy thinking about them delicious twinkies and their cream filling
thats exactly the point, ( even though you probably meant to say it in a sarcastic way), there are chemicals in so many of our foods, even innocent things like that crispy apple may contain up to 50 different pesticides, 7 of which are carcinogenic. the only way to ensure you are removing these from your diet is by eating organic produce, oh and those "delicious twinkies and their cream filling" are slices of fake ingredients pumped up with chemicals and additives with a creamy filling of sugar, fat and who the hell knows what
You do realize they put chemicals on organic produce too, right? It just has to be you know "natural chemicals". It's still chemicals. But you're probably all like "Don't eat things you can't pronounce, trololo". I caution you from looking up the chemical composition of an apple. We'd never be able to eat anything if we spent our whole lives making up things in our heads on what's evil and what's not. It's fine though, more twinkies for me. I've heard they make banana twinkies too.0 -
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Yes it does. People are just ignoring the term "Regain".
No, you're ignoring where it says that the type of diet had no bearing on the results and the biggest predictor of success was behavior.0 -
I work with a lot of overweight people as a nutritionist and personal trainer.
Your views are way to narrow-minded. I suspect you are not a very good nutritionalist and or personal trainer...0 -
You love applying a blanket statement to everyone who is not vegan. It's funny how often a plant based diet person comes along saying how all of us are doing it wrong. How almost every single one of us will fail. How they have tons of articles proving their point, but none of you ever, ever, ever show us how you have applied all your amazing knowledge to yourselves. You guys never do.2/3's of Americans are overweight, 1/3 are Obese. I have no problem using the term "most".
I thought you were saying that calorie counting doesn't work for most people trying to lose weight - which is not true.
Calorie counting works for losing weight, but it doesn't work for most people in keeping the weight off. Most put the weight back on when they get tired of counting or reach their goal.
People put weight back on when they stop doing the things that helped them succeed. To single out calorie counting is silly...
Actually, what I have been saying is that it isn't the calorie counting that is the problem, it is the diet. Eat a diet that doesn't require calorie counting. You can't keep eating crap in moderation, because eventually your moderation changes. It is like telling an alcoholic to drink in moderation.
We all ate what you call "crap" at one time. You have even admitted to still eating cake now. Then we go on to lose weight but your group is the one that seems to push the hardest to change the world because now you guys are all high and mighty and have had a the answers revealed to you.
It's pretty pathetic how I bet every single person here is willing to put their story out there. I've even personally said to you that I would be more than happy to compare before and afters plus latest physicals including blood work, ekg etc. Your response was "why do I need to provide anecdotal evidence why I'm giving you empirical evidence". Simply a lame cop out. Start putting up some real information and evidence and maybe people will stop laughing at you for scare mongering.
Vegans are the only diet group in the US with, on average, a normal BMI. Maybe you should listen to people in the only group who, on average, are NOT overweight.
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You love applying a blanket statement to everyone who is not vegan. It's funny how often a plant based diet person comes along saying how all of us are doing it wrong. How almost every single one of us will fail. How they have tons of articles proving their point, but none of you ever, ever, ever show us how you have applied all your amazing knowledge to yourselves. You guys never do.2/3's of Americans are overweight, 1/3 are Obese. I have no problem using the term "most".
I thought you were saying that calorie counting doesn't work for most people trying to lose weight - which is not true.
Calorie counting works for losing weight, but it doesn't work for most people in keeping the weight off. Most put the weight back on when they get tired of counting or reach their goal.
People put weight back on when they stop doing the things that helped them succeed. To single out calorie counting is silly...
Actually, what I have been saying is that it isn't the calorie counting that is the problem, it is the diet. Eat a diet that doesn't require calorie counting. You can't keep eating crap in moderation, because eventually your moderation changes. It is like telling an alcoholic to drink in moderation.
We all ate what you call "crap" at one time. You have even admitted to still eating cake now. Then we go on to lose weight but your group is the one that seems to push the hardest to change the world because now you guys are all high and mighty and have had a the answers revealed to you.
It's pretty pathetic how I bet every single person here is willing to put their story out there. I've even personally said to you that I would be more than happy to compare before and afters plus latest physicals including blood work, ekg etc. Your response was "why do I need to provide anecdotal evidence why I'm giving you empirical evidence". Simply a lame cop out. Start putting up some real information and evidence and maybe people will stop laughing at you for scare mongering.
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I work with a lot of overweight people as a nutritionist and personal trainer.
Your views are way to narrow-minded. I suspect you are not a very good nutritionalist and or personal trainer...
A lot of ad hominem on this board. Yet I am the only one to back up my statements with science. Good luck to you all. You know everything already, and obviously don't need to listen to someone who has been successful for almost an entire decade.0 -
I work with a lot of overweight people as a nutritionist and personal trainer.
Your views are way to narrow-minded. I suspect you are not a very good nutritionalist and or personal trainer...
A lot of ad hominem on this board. Yet I am the only one to back up my statements with science. Good luck to you all. You know everything already, and obviously don't need to listen to someone who has been successful for almost an entire decade.
Sounds like you are describing yourself...0
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