Part 3 ~ turtle club

runnerdad

Ok... The Philly Marathon is sold out. If I run it bandit, what's the worst that can happen?

Also, any advice on what to do as far as running over the next 3 weeks?

Hmmm, did I call it, or what?

VballLeash

Does anyone know if I attempt to workout and have herniated discs if I can make them worse? My MRI is next week but I emailed my chiro and he thinks I'm too young to have that. So who knows! I need to burn some calories!!!!!

~Leash

beckym71

Does anyone know if I attempt to workout and have herniated discs if I can make them worse? My MRI is next week but I emailed my chiro and he thinks I'm too young to have that. So who knows! I need to burn some calories!!!!!

~Leash

I don't KNOW for sure, but my husband had a bulging disc when he was younger, early 20s so I do disagree with the chiros opinion. Repetitive use/movement can inflict serious damage. Anyway, if I remember my information, once it has herniated the damage is done so I don't think some easy exercise would make it worse. I don't know for sure though!

ok, just popped over to web md ~ walking and swimming, easy stretching exercises and stuff to strengthen your core all seem to be alright

beckym71

Ok... The Philly Marathon is sold out. If I run it bandit, what's the worst that can happen?

Also, any advice on what to do as far as running over the next 3 weeks?

Hmmm, did I call it, or what?

Lol! You were spot on Tom! :bigsmile:

beckym71

Becky!!! You forgot me! I'm in california, I'm pretty sure that your best course is going to be here, BIG SUR MARATHON!!!!!!!!

~Leash

Big Sur is epic! Leash wins for sure, this is on my "bucket" list, along with great wall of china marathon.

We could do one on each coast. :laugh: The Outer Banks Marathon is supposed to also be amazing!
Hawaii is on my bucket list! I'm as crazed as Nitz. I haven't even run my 1st one yet! :laugh:

jabdye

I have run the half at the outer banks -- and it is VERY fun! Full is in November.

VballLeash

YEA lets do one on each side of the country! Good idea.

~Leash

bgood14

ray and i are in the middle :ohwell:

i guess that means vacation plans!!! :drinker:

RunRideRay

Ya... I am thinking THEIR vacation plans are to Twin Cities...it is AMAZING race and on my calendar too!

bgood, we'll need to be working Becky a bit on this cold wimpery too..hahaha! All we hear is heavy bag this, muay thai that, kicking, hitting, don't mess with me....BUT it's too cold..... whaaayyyy! :sad: :sad: :sad:

Nuff... ha! Either you're tough, or not... BTW....the tough guys live in the prairie lands, and we just deal with it....no kicking and crying...hahaha! Right?

OK, tomatoe bomb coming....duck....splat!!!!

iRun4wine

ray and i are in the middle :ohwell:

i guess that means vacation plans!!! :drinker:

I guess that means you get to go to both! :bigsmile:

Love the idea... would LOVE to meet you guys in person :bigsmile:

Leash- love the new pic

Becky- Yes, I'm in Connecticut. I'm running a race here on Thanksgiving if anyone wants to join me... it's also my birthday! :bigsmile: :drinker:

Stressful day of work for me today- 78 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th graders... some days it's fun, and some days it chaotic and stressful- today was one of those days :yawn:

RunRideRay

I still think you need a gluten free loaf of pumpkin bread with just enough candles to feel mature... no more....HA! So... it's Happy Birthmonth now, and Birthweek coming soon...right? Yippee!

Kel..too bad you had a bad day, but.... 78 of any age is bound to induce some lunacy! Hang in there, or act pyscho crazy and scare them a bit...haha!

OK.... I need help!!!! I had a great run but just hate doing my P90X workout... putting off the AbripperX until Oh-5-hundred... oh yuck-o-rama. Phifer scissor this.... bad attitude Ray, or B.A Baracus (take that Grease, real girls watch the A-team).

Off to bed everyone, and then another day chasing shiny objects.

Ray

jabdye

Happy Thursday!
Hope all is well!
Got in 5 miles last night -- 1 mile warm-up -- 3 miles at temp 9:13 -- 1 mile cool down. Felt great! Got a pull-up bar last night. My goal -- to be able to DO ONE pull-up. I'm a big sissy whimp and have NEVER been able to do one. So I am unable to type much today as I am unable to move my arms :bigsmile:

Ray -- you and your shiny objects -- should we rename you CROW??? The A-Team -- really???? I pity the fool....:noway:

Kelynn-- I'm excited to celebrate your birth month!!! Sorry I can't make it in person -- but I promise to eat too much in your honor :bigsmile:

Enjoy the day!
Julei

bgood14

yeah, we need to come to an understanding on here of what "cold" means :laugh: i was in Iowa City in 2000 for NCAA XC championships (working it, not running it) and the wind on the plains gives new meaning to the word. i'm still thawing out 10 yrs later!!!

sounds like we've got some serious schedule coordinating to do. another idea (in addition to, not in place of our marathon get together) -- we could do like the Nike Human Race they did a couple years (and then backed out on this year) where we all pick a day, and run the same race distance on the same day, so we're running a virtual race together. just a thought.

overslept this morning, alarm didn't go off, so heading out for 10K at lunch. hey, does anyone know what tomorrow is???

jabdye

Freaky Friday???

iRun4wine

yeah, we need to come to an understanding on here of what "cold" means :laugh: i was in Iowa City in 2000 for NCAA XC championships (working it, not running it) and the wind on the plains gives new meaning to the word. i'm still thawing out 10 yrs later!!!

sounds like we've got some serious schedule coordinating to do. another idea (in addition to, not in place of our marathon get together) -- we could do like the Nike Human Race they did a couple years (and then backed out on this year) where we all pick a day, and run the same race distance on the same day, so we're running a virtual race together. just a thought.

overslept this morning, alarm didn't go off, so heading out for 10K at lunch. hey, does anyone know what tomorrow is???

Love that idea, B! Like you said not necessarily instead of a.meet up, but in addition to :bigsmile:

bgood14

Freaky Friday???

good answer! i think the 2nd part of that is the important part

kechiemc

Happy Thursday!
Hope all is well!
Got in 5 miles last night -- 1 mile warm-up -- 3 miles at temp 9:13 -- 1 mile cool down. Felt great! Got a pull-up bar last night. My goal -- to be able to DO ONE pull-up. I'm a big sissy whimp and have NEVER been able to do one. So I am unable to type much today as I am unable to move my arms :bigsmile:

Enjoy the day!
Julei

"Julei", way to go on that tempo.:laugh: :drinker: Since you did 3 miles at 9:13 pace, will you come and run my half for me on Sunday? That was my failed goal for my last tempo run.

On the pull-up bar, if it swings down, start off doing "lat pulls?" first. You'll get that pull-up done! You can also start off standing on something like a foot stool or a chair. We have a bar too and I was against getting it but actually love that we have it.

I want to meet up. I am not wanting to run a marathon yet though. Maybe we can find a marathon that has a half too?:blushing:

chgudnitz

Philly has both.... :happy:

chgudnitz

Here's a question... be honest.

I feel perfectly fine, like, not sore, not stiff, not tired, nothing... Does that mean I laid down and didn't do as well as I could have?

VballLeash

Here's a question... be honest.

I feel perfectly fine, like, not sore, not stiff, not tired, nothing... Does that mean I laid down and didn't do as well as I could have?

I'm not going to answer your question directly but when I ran my first marathon I felt the same way. I wasn't really sore the next day, I got a little sick but they say thats normal cause your immune system basically shuts down but I should have been barely walking! Yet I was fine... I did feel like I could have given it a lot more but it was my first so I didn't know what to expect. I'm sure you can do better and you will next time but I wouldn't beat yourself up over it!

~Leash

RunRideRay

Here's a question... be honest.

I feel perfectly fine, like, not sore, not stiff, not tired, nothing... Does that mean I laid down and didn't do as well as I could have?

Honest...ha!

Ya left plenty on the field of play my friend, no doubt on that. A good marathon and stairs should be difficult. Somehow you've got an energy or fatigue thing to work out, seems like the legs are under-utilized. Race post-mortem is a vital part of improvement, and I try to study everything that "hurts" afterward, and work on the weak link(s). You should have sore lungs for a few days, sore legs for 5, and some general feeling of fatigue/sickness too. MCM was a training run more or less.

Personally, I think you're still low on hyrdration or carbs, maybe both.

As always, hope it helps!
Ray

chgudnitz

Here's a question... be honest.

I feel perfectly fine, like, not sore, not stiff, not tired, nothing... Does that mean I laid down and didn't do as well as I could have?

Honest...ha!

Ya left plenty on the field of play my friend, no doubt on that. A good marathon and stairs should be difficult. Somehow you've got an energy or fatigue thing to work out, seems like the legs are under-utilized. Race post-mortem is a vital part of improvement, and I try to study everything that "hurts" afterward, and work on the weak link(s). You should have sore lungs for a few days, sore legs for 5, and some general feeling of fatigue/sickness too. MCM was a training run more or less.

Personally, I think you're still low on hyrdration or carbs, maybe both.

As always, hope it helps!
Ray

I don't know what the issue is. It might be hydration, but I drank a crap load of water and sports drink thing. My legs were tight and it leads to my thought that it was lack of fluids, but I don't know how... I'm feeling like it was a really long training run.

I'm 100% lost on what my problem is during marathons.

beckym71

Ya... I am thinking THEIR vacation plans are to Twin Cities...it is AMAZING race and on my calendar too!

bgood, we'll need to be working Becky a bit on this cold wimpery too..hahaha! All we hear is heavy bag this, muay thai that, kicking, hitting, don't mess with me....BUT it's too cold..... whaaayyyy! :sad: :sad: :sad:

Nuff... ha! Either you're tough, or not... BTW....the tough guys live in the prairie lands, and we just deal with it....no kicking and crying...hahaha! Right?

OK, tomatoe bomb coming....duck....splat!!!!

Blah, blah, blah! :laugh:

I paid my dues in Michigan for years, working outside year round. I can't help it that I've now the blood consistency of water!
Although even my running partner (born and bred here) burst out laughing when I showed up to run in full length tights, a hooded sweatshirt, gloves and ear covers yesterday. She was in shorts and one long sleeve shirt ! (did I mention the underarmor layer i was wearing under the hoodie!)
Picture a wet cat and that's about the expression I have when it drops below 60

beckym71

Kel~ yikes! 78 small humans at one time! :noway: I promise to celebrate your birthday from here!

Julie~ my goal is also to do one pull up, not just a chin up, but a full pull up. I was getting pretty close this summer but then I dropped too much of my weight training. :grumble: We have a *perfect pull up* bar. It screws into the wall and can swing down so you can do as Kechie described for starters. Sounds like she and I have the same bar in fact!
Way to go on that tempo run! Wow! Speedy! :drinker:

Leash~ how ya doing? Feeling any better? I sure hope so! :flowerforyou:

Nitz~ I'll give you my opinion about whether you *laid up* or *laid down* whatever the heck the expression is after I do my 1st marathon! Personally I don't believe any 26.2 mile run can be considered a failure!

B~ I love your idea about a long distance group run! You're so clever!

Tom~ so sorry about the cold front! I can relate! It is a horrible thing! :frown:

Kechie~ where is our beautiful Carolina blue sky?!?! I want it back! :sad:

So while we are discussing races, training, etc...here is my question for the day....

We were just invited to the beach for Turkey Day. Our oldest daughter's boyfriend is from a family with MONEY (yes, money with all capitals) We finally met them and must have passed muster because they invited us to join them at Kure Beach for the holidays. They have not one, but two beachohouses so we will have our own place. Obviously, I'm not going to turn down the invitation. I can definitely work in my short runs for the week before leaving and maybe get some miles on the beach while there. That is 3 weeks out from the race and was taper start anyway (Ray, this is actually my 2nd add on week from the original plan) Will I be okay to skip the long run that weekend? And secondly, should I risk sand/beachfront running or is that risky?

Ok, so far today, 2 hours of Krav, 1 hour of Muay Thai, heading out to run soon!

I hope everyone is having a terrific *it's almost Friday!* day! :bigsmile:

bgood14

beach or no beach, i can throw down some serious turkey! and i'm needing to add on some serious miles to make up for it. if u noticed, i finally decided it was time to fess up, and i reset my weight loss tracker on here to reflect the, um, current situation....of the 18 pounds i dropped over about 18 months, all but 4 of them have returned over the past 3 or 4 monts. easy solution -- more miles and more intervals!

for today -- 10K complete.

bgood14

oh, meant to add my 2 cents (because i know it's highly valued here )

Nitz -- i woudln't say you lacked anything on effort. obviously your training has paid off if you feel recovered this soon after the race. in my (not-so-expert) opinion, the thing with the marathon is that it's so long, there's so many more opportunities for things to go wrong, and any little problem gets amplified by about 1000% (my statistical analysis). in a 5K, you get tight at the halfway point and you can probably "tough it out" for another mile and a half or so. in the marathon, you may have 20 miles done when trouble creeps up, but there's still 10K to go!!! i'm sure it's frustrating, but i hope you don't worry too much about it. like ray says -- learn from it, and come back stronger. you're doing the right things in preparation. now it's just a matter of finding your groove on race day. and remember -- you've run 3 now, right? small sample size. need more tests for your hypothesis.

RunRideRay

Nitz.... don't EVER think it's not an accomlishment. ANY marathon done is a job well done!!!

The thing that stinks, you do the training time, but somehow the races seem to fall apart a bit, which really sucks. If training goes "well" and seems hydration is fine, then it comes down to nutrition, carbs, and it could be good ole anxiety factors on race day [trust me, they are real]. Something I have learned over the years, I approach the race line like it's any other day in the office, and barely even think about it. Of course there is loads of crazy folks around, but I am not anxious at all, and just run when I hear something loud.

Eventually insanity prevails, and you just accept a story for each race and have a BLAST...oh, you are already there...haha!

Ray

erikazj

Hey all - Becky mentioned this thread to me. I hope you don't mind if I pop in now and then. It's late here, so really I'm just tagging for later (if that's ok with you all?) and I'll post properly when I'm caught up.

Erika x

VballLeash

Hey all - Becky mentioned this thread to me. I hope you don't mind if I pop in now and then. It's late here, so really I'm just tagging for later (if that's ok with you all?) and I'll post properly when I'm caught up.

Erika x

Of course your welcome here Erica!!!

~Leash

iRun4wine

Hey guys and gals.
Wore a.pair of sneakers without my insoles today and.thought I was going to die... and I only wore them to the grocery store! :blushing: So, I guess the insoles are helping if it feels so bad.without them.

Anyhow, I'm exhausted and going to bed. Will chat more tomorrow.

Oh, and Becky since.its my birthday and all, can I come to the beach? :bigsmile:

(Sorry for all the random periods... I'm typing on my phone and tend to hit the period instead of the space lol)