I refuse to take fitness advice...

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  • MyM0wM0w
    MyM0wM0w Posts: 2,008 Member
    popcorn, get your popcorn :drinker:
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  • TriShamelessly
    TriShamelessly Posts: 905 Member
    agreed big time

    except for nutritional info. Our food is not near the quality it once was

    Our food choices far exceed anything we once had and the quality/ affordability in almost every area just keeps improving.

    Disagreed. The nutritional content of today's agricultural products has been demonstratively proven to be down. That is, the macronutrient quantity is far less than it was 75 years ago. Don't have time to pull the sources but have seen it in a couple of different sources. I will agree that there is certainly more food and a wider variety generally available, but its nutritional content may not be up to snuff compared to 75 years ago.
  • MaryGrace1965
    MaryGrace1965 Posts: 92 Member
    Well said. Hard work and determination. That's how it's done!
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  • rushmama5
    rushmama5 Posts: 49 Member
    Intense.
  • cparter
    cparter Posts: 754 Member
    I can agree with most of what you saying to a point.

    1. Don't believe in any of fad crap (juicing, pills, HCG, or whatever)

    2. Don't believe I have to run off every direction someones tell me I must go
    - Been getting bugged to toss tires, etc. from a team of pals but I am steadily losing weight my way, was a certified personal trainer once and I am satisfied with my results but they still insist on bugging me with joining them
    - It is ok to mention something new but no means no so move on

    What I don't agree with (although I am set in what I do and love my own transitions):

    1. The old ways are always the best ways

    2. New way of doing things is always a fad
    - Yoga, P90X and a few other programs have positive benefits and the results are marvelous (although I don't do any)
    - As long as what you are doing does not provide negative side affects there is not an issue with mixing things up

    To each his own but I don't follow every rabbit hole and take everything I read here with a grain of salt because I march to my own drum and do my own research. Besides, I have been there and done that.
  • Wonderob
    Wonderob Posts: 1,372 Member
    I march to my own drum and do my own research. Besides, I have been there and done that.

    Yes but as soon as you judge a person's ability to train you on their appearance, you are possibly doing yourself a massive injustice

    How about this guy? Would you let him train you if you had the opportunity?
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    This chubster has trained 50 world champions including Oscar De La Hoya

    How about

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    This out of shape guy has shaped over 50 World Champions including Thomas Hearns, Wladimir Klitschko, Lennox Lewis, and Prince Naseem

    This couch potato?

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    He got Mickey Rouke in shape for his professional debut as well as training Manny Pacquiao, Chris Eubanks, and more recently, MMA legends such as , Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz

    Would you laugh at these unfit guys and tell them that you "refuse to take fitness advice from anyone who is more out of shape than me" like the OP would??
  • Madame_Goldbricker
    Madame_Goldbricker Posts: 1,625 Member
    I can agree with most of what you saying to a point.

    1. Don't believe in any of fad crap (juicing, pills, HCG, or whatever)

    2. Don't believe I have to run off every direction someones tell me I must go
    - Been getting bugged to toss tires, etc. from a team of pals but I am steadily losing weight my way, was a certified personal trainer once and I am satisfied with my results but they still insist on bugging me with joining them
    - It is ok to mention something new but no means no so move on

    What I don't agree with (although I am set in what I do and love my own transitions):

    1. The old ways are always the best ways

    2. New way of doing things is always a fad
    - Yoga, P90X and a few other programs have positive benefits and the results are marvelous (although I don't do any)
    - As long as what you are doing does not provide negative side affects there is not an issue with mixing things up

    To each his own but I don't follow every rabbit hole and take everything I read here with a grain of salt because I march to my own drum and do my own research. Besides, I have been there and done that.

    First recorded mention of yoga 400 CE in the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali - yep that new fangled thing :wink:
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    I can agree with most of what you saying to a point.

    1. Don't believe in any of fad crap (juicing, pills, HCG, or whatever)

    2. Don't believe I have to run off every direction someones tell me I must go
    - Been getting bugged to toss tires, etc. from a team of pals but I am steadily losing weight my way, was a certified personal trainer once and I am satisfied with my results but they still insist on bugging me with joining them
    - It is ok to mention something new but no means no so move on

    What I don't agree with (although I am set in what I do and love my own transitions):

    1. The old ways are always the best ways

    2. New way of doing things is always a fad
    - Yoga, P90X and a few other programs have positive benefits and the results are marvelous (although I don't do any)
    - As long as what you are doing does not provide negative side affects there is not an issue with mixing things up

    To each his own but I don't follow every rabbit hole and take everything I read here with a grain of salt because I march to my own drum and do my own research. Besides, I have been there and done that.

    First recorded mention of yoga 400 CE in the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali - yep that new fangled thing :wink:

    I thought Lululemon invented yoga?
  • conqueringsquidlette
    conqueringsquidlette Posts: 383 Member
    A lack of motivation is not a lack of knowledge. I'll take good knowledge from any source I can find it - even if the person giving it isn't motivated (or able) to follow their own advice.

    Not to mention, somebody might have already lost my entire body weight and still not look like much. Looks are deceiving.
  • azymth99
    azymth99 Posts: 122 Member
    from people who are more out of shape than me...

    In today's; "I read it on the internet so it must be right" trend, everyone is a fitness expert and I get sick of people that don't even work out (or do so once in a while) trying to tell me what's best for my workout or physical appearance.

    There is HUGE difference between Coaches and arm-chair fitness experts which is what I was referring to. Besides, most coaches/trainers were at one time, in excellent physical condition. Arnold may be old an flabby now, but there was a time when he put all of us to shame, so of course I would take his advice- because he's been there and done that.

    If you actually READ what I wrote rather than key on one sentence- you would see that I qualified my first sentence with the second paragraph.

    But, my point remains. If you don't practice what you preach either you don't believe in it enough to put it into practice or you really don't know what you're talking about. The only people that should have been offended by this post were those that are both out of shape and spew unpracticed fitness advice.

    Unless you have a persecution complex, then I guess everyone is out to get you...

    And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?

    I'm going to base my decision on far more than what they look like.
  • Yagisama
    Yagisama Posts: 595 Member
    And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?

    I'm going to base my decision on far more than what they look like.

    That's exactly what I was going to say. I wouldn't base my decision merely on what they look like.
  • Madame_Goldbricker
    Madame_Goldbricker Posts: 1,625 Member
    And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?

    I'm going to base my decision on far more than what they look like.

    ^^Agreed!

    After all someone could look in great shape through ab implants or ab etching - doesn't mean they're as fit as a butchers dog does it :huh:
  • Shortmomma33
    Shortmomma33 Posts: 3 Member
    I agree with you. There is NO special diet. Losing weight is simple- exercise, and cut/count calories. You are what you eat. That's it.
  • Yagisama
    Yagisama Posts: 595 Member
    I agree with you. There is NO special diet. Losing weight is simple- exercise, and cut/count calories. You are what you eat. That's it.

    I refuse to take your advice because you have 17 pounds to lose. I only take advice from people who have less than 6 pounds to lose. :wink:
  • Jeanne130LBS
    Jeanne130LBS Posts: 50 Member
    LOL. Well I can't tell from your photos how fit you are. But you can tell by mine. So judge for yourself, but people are here on MFP for fitness advice and support. Not for someone with a poor, arrogant, narcissistic attitude to tell them that their way sucks and you are way better than them since you are more fit. If what worked 30 years ago still works for you, great. That isn't the same for everyone. There was no MFP 30 years ago, so did you only sign up so you can post aggressive, unhelpful opinions for people to laugh at? Clearly you don't need MFP to maintain your god-like fitness.
  • Jeanne130LBS
    Jeanne130LBS Posts: 50 Member
    AMEN.
  • azymth99
    azymth99 Posts: 122 Member
    LOL. Well I can't tell from your photos how fit you are. But you can tell by mine. So judge for yourself, but people are here on MFP for fitness advice and support. Not for someone with a poor, arrogant, narcissistic attitude to tell them that their way sucks and you are way better than them since you are more fit. If what worked 30 years ago still works for you, great. That isn't the same for everyone. There was no MFP 30 years ago, so did you only sign up so you can post aggressive, unhelpful opinions for people to laugh at? Clearly you don't need MFP to maintain your god-like fitness.

    I was going to let this guy slide- but since people want to agree with him:

    Where in my OP did I say to someone "Your way sucks and I am better than you since I am more fit?" His ENTIRE paragraph has nothing to do with anything I wrote.

    "And people are on MFP for fitness advice and support?" I see a LOT of people berrating others about their fitness and/or nutrition choices- which is exactly what spawned the inspiration for my post. I didn't do or say anything to anyone about their choices. I merely stated my opinion about fad fitness and getting advice from people that don't practice what they preach. MY OPINION. If you don't share it, fine. If you disagree with me, fine. But don't put words in my mouth or attribute things to my post that aren't there.
  • 1princesswarrior
    1princesswarrior Posts: 1,242 Member
    LOL. Well I can't tell from your photos how fit you are. But you can tell by mine. So judge for yourself, but people are here on MFP for fitness advice and support. Not for someone with a poor, arrogant, narcissistic attitude to tell them that their way sucks and you are way better than them since you are more fit. If what worked 30 years ago still works for you, great. That isn't the same for everyone. There was no MFP 30 years ago, so did you only sign up so you can post aggressive, unhelpful opinions for people to laugh at? Clearly you don't need MFP to maintain your god-like fitness.

    I was going to let this guy slide- but since people want to agree with him:

    Where in my OP did I say to someone "Your way sucks and I am better than you since I am more fit?" His ENTIRE paragraph has nothing to do with anything I wrote.

    "And people are on MFP for fitness advice and support?" I see a LOT of people berrating others about their fitness and/or nutrition choices- which is exactly what spawned the inspiration for my post. I didn't do or say anything to anyone about their choices. I merely stated my opinion about fad fitness and getting advice from people that don't practice what they preach. MY OPINION. If you don't share it, fine. If you disagree with me, fine. But don't put words in my mouth or attribute things to my post that aren't there.


    So, since I just had surgery and have not been released to exercise yet am I now not qualified to make suggestions when people ask me what I am doing to get fit?

    And, did I lose IQ points when I got fat due to a medical condition and then gain them back as I lost weight? Because that's kinda what you attitude implies.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    LOL. Well I can't tell from your photos how fit you are. But you can tell by mine. So judge for yourself, but people are here on MFP for fitness advice and support. Not for someone with a poor, arrogant, narcissistic attitude to tell them that their way sucks and you are way better than them since you are more fit. If what worked 30 years ago still works for you, great. That isn't the same for everyone. There was no MFP 30 years ago, so did you only sign up so you can post aggressive, unhelpful opinions for people to laugh at? Clearly you don't need MFP to maintain your god-like fitness.

    I was going to let this guy slide- but since people want to agree with him:

    Where in my OP did I say to someone "Your way sucks and I am better than you since I am more fit?" His ENTIRE paragraph has nothing to do with anything I wrote.

    "And people are on MFP for fitness advice and support?" I see a LOT of people berrating others about their fitness and/or nutrition choices- which is exactly what spawned the inspiration for my post. I didn't do or say anything to anyone about their choices. I merely stated my opinion about fad fitness and getting advice from people that don't practice what they preach. MY OPINION. If you don't share it, fine. If you disagree with me, fine. But don't put words in my mouth or attribute things to my post that aren't there.

    My question is this then...how can you tell on MFP who is more out of shape than you?

    How can you tell who is giving good current advice that has been researched etc?

    I mean really...

    My advice to people who want to lose weight and tone muscle is as follows "Eat at a deficit to lose fat, do some for of resistence training with adequate protien to retain muscle mass"...

    Is that bad advice in your book?

    What about people that want to run...my suggestions are take it slow, pick a time period where you run, be it 30sec, 1min etc or a space on the road...then up that time, then when you can run that amount of time (15mins for example) try to get in a certian distance in that time and keep increasing the distance...

    Bad advice? I don't run, I won't be running anytime soon...I smoke... does it make the advice any less valid?

    It also doesn't make me lazy because I don't practice what I preach as far as running goes either it means I don't want to run because I don't like running.
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
    Read op's first post and thought, "That's a big swing!"

    Read each subsequent post by the op and thought, "This kid keeps cracking them out of the park!! This rookie is an up and comer!"

    You're gonna go places op. I've got my eye on you!
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
    And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?

    Depends on which one wants me to do squats on a Bosu ball.
  • Galatea_Stone
    Galatea_Stone Posts: 2,037 Member
    And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?

    Depends on which one wants me to do squats on a Bosu ball.

    You're so wise.
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
    And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?

    Depends on which one wants me to do squats on a Bosu ball.

    You're so wise.

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  • Hi! My name is Morgan, I am 20 years old. I am the exact same as you, I have always tried exercising, but no luck. When I was a junior in high school I decided I wanted to lose weight and so I would cut out all junk food and ate less, basically, I was an anorexic, but didn't truly believe it because I still ate food. Basically this continued untill college. At one point I was down to 122 pounds at 5'4" with an athletic body. I was unhealthy. Once college started, I forgot about all of that and just ate. I got back up to probably 137. Anywayyyyyyyyyyyyyys. lol. Last fall, I got diagnosed with GBM, a grade 4 brain tumor. I had two surgeries, went through radiation, and chemotherapy. ATM I am in remission, but still continueing with Chemotherapy. The chemo has not really affected me very much except for the occasional sickness. On May 31, I did a gladiator run with my dad. It kicked my *kitten*. He's almost 50 and did it easily. After that, I decided no more. I have begun p90x and training for a 5k by taking it really slow. Walking it first, and I'm going to work my way up. The difference between the way I ate before and now though is I eat probably 1600-2000 calories a day which I have not done since I was a sophomore in college. I'm telling you all this because if you have the money, I would reccomend p90x because it is the first version of it and it works the hell out of you. If you're not in shape at all, I would try p90 because that works you really well too, but doesn't kill you. It simply helps build you up to prepare for a harder work out! I hope this helped! :)
  • maz504
    maz504 Posts: 450
    Read op's first post and thought, "That's a big swing!"

    Read each subsequent post by the op and thought, "This kid keeps cracking them out of the park!! This rookie is an up and comer!"

    You're gonna go places op. I've got my eye on you!

    +1 :love:
  • IcanIwill1
    IcanIwill1 Posts: 137 Member


    2. New way of doing things is always a fad
    - Yoga, P90X and a few other programs have positive benefits and the results are marvelous (although I don't do any)
    - As long as what you are doing does not provide negative side affects there is not an issue with mixing things up
    I laughed out loud that a practice as old as Yoga is
    a new way of doing things
  • sculli123
    sculli123 Posts: 1,221 Member
    Agree to a point but it really depends on the context of the discussion and their background.
  • tinkbaby101
    tinkbaby101 Posts: 180 Member
    I suppose you wouldn't take fitness advice from a cat, either. But look at this guy. Primo physique. DYEA? (Do you even agility?)

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    I was shocked at the lack of cat gifs, here.