I refuse to take fitness advice...

tennisdude2004

I suppose you wouldn't take fitness advice from a cat, either. But look at this guy. Primo physique. DYEA? (Do you even agility?)



I was shocked at the lack of cat gifs, here.

I would love to move like a cat - well most of the lean agile ones. I would take advice!

SideSteel

from people who are more out of shape than me...

In today's; "I read it on the internet so it must be right" trend, everyone is a fitness expert and I get sick of people that don't even work out (or do so once in a while) trying to tell me what's best for my workout or physical appearance.

There is HUGE difference between Coaches and arm-chair fitness experts which is what I was referring to. Besides, most coaches/trainers were at one time, in excellent physical condition. Arnold may be old an flabby now, but there was a time when he put all of us to shame, so of course I would take his advice- because he's been there and done that.

If you actually READ what I wrote rather than key on one sentence- you would see that I qualified my first sentence with the second paragraph.

But, my point remains. If you don't practice what you preach either you don't believe in it enough to put it into practice or you really don't know what you're talking about. The only people that should have been offended by this post were those that are both out of shape and spew unpracticed fitness advice.

Are you familiar with Lyle Mcdonald and would you take his advice on programming or nutrition?

Cryptonomnomicon

from people who are more out of shape than me...

In today's; "I read it on the internet so it must be right" trend, everyone is a fitness expert and I get sick of people that don't even work out (or do so once in a while) trying to tell me what's best for my workout or physical appearance.

There is HUGE difference between Coaches and arm-chair fitness experts which is what I was referring to. Besides, most coaches/trainers were at one time, in excellent physical condition. Arnold may be old an flabby now, but there was a time when he put all of us to shame, so of course I would take his advice- because he's been there and done that.

If you actually READ what I wrote rather than key on one sentence- you would see that I qualified my first sentence with the second paragraph.

But, my point remains. If you don't practice what you preach either you don't believe in it enough to put it into practice or you really don't know what you're talking about. The only people that should have been offended by this post were those that are both out of shape and spew unpracticed fitness advice.

Are you familiar with Lyle Mcdonald and would you take his advice on programming or nutrition?

I doubt they are familiar with Lyle's work considering the content/attitude on this thread.

Ang108

So you are saying we should avoid all salt, all sugar and eat extremely low fat, because as we know they were all the devil 30 years ago and of course we should eat diets consisting of no more than 600 calories to lose weight and consisted of hard boiled eggs, salad and grapefruit, because according to you diet and fitness related things never change.
Ah, and before I forget, I also need to brake out my little pink ( or was it purple ? ) 2 pound dumb bells and do a gazillion reps with them, because as a woman I don't want to bulk up like a man.
Or wait, is this all stuff that has been dispelled a decade or more ago, but shouldn't have been, because according to you a new way of doing things is always a fad. If that were true, we would still live in caves and be eating a true paleo diet.

PS: I am wondering if maybe for the upcoming World Championship it would not be better if the trainers of the different teams would play against each other, because applying your logic they would have to be fitter, more knowledgeable and all around better athletes than their teams . Most are not ( some are obviously way out of shape )....how is it possible then that they can produce world class athletes ?

JennyHollyHansen

I went to Iron Man in 2009 and these people are the fittest of the fit! They were all shapes and sizes. Small, large, thin, muscular, and chubby. A lot of these people trained for a year before competing. Just because they are not tiny skinny does not mean they are not fit. The outside of the package does not tell the whole story.

xxhawk68xx

hahahahaha

On the money:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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susabeannee

Way to lose weight--watch what you eat,control your caloric intake, eat whole, non processed food for health, and exercise. Pretty straight forward. Juicing, cleansing, excluding entire food groups....not so much.

However....I have a fair amount of knowledge when it comes to, say, healthy eating. I could design healthy menus, I could give people really good advice, I could (and have) helped people lose weight. That said, knowledge doesn't mean action. My not doing what I know I should does not negate my knowledge.

So.... if I was a huge fitness/exercise buff, and had a ton of knowledge, but for some reason just quit working out and got soft or fat or out of shape.....it doesn't negate my knowledge and my expertise. it just means I'm not following it. It doesn't mean my knowledge is wrong or that I can't help someone else. To judge someone on their appearance could cause you to lose out on valuable expertise.

I do get what you are saying about fads and people running to them....most of the people who want to lose weight fast and not put in the work tend to gravitate to the "quick fixes" and then because they want validation try and convince others that it is "the way"...and it may be....in the very short term. Quick fixes aren't sustainable in the long run, and people who lose weight on quick fixes only tend to gain it all back plus some.

I think your initial post seemed combative to most...like you wanted to make a point but it came across as picking a fight. What I have learned is that we each need to research things ourselves and do what works for US. If juicing truly works in the long run for someone, great! It doesn't work for me, but I'm not going to tell the person doing it that it doesn't work for them if they are healthy and fit. There are anomalies in life. But I'm not going to jump on the juicing bandwagon.

I wish you well in your fitness/weight loss journey....but remember, its not what you say, its how you say it.

empireman85

What an interesting thread.

As a mature person (read old fat guy) that has tried many things. Most had short term results however I've learned more in the last nine months from MFP and a nutritionist than I thought possible.

In my teens and twenty's playing football I learned about working out and being in shape. That was great for then but now that program would leave me lame and fat. There have been huge improvements in science and conditioning that are helping me now. I probably would run out of space listing all the "new" stuff that has become a given since the seventies.

About a year ago I made a commitment to get myself in decent shape in hopes I might live long enough to see my golden years and actually be healthy enough to enjoy them. After much research I did it all wrong by choosing Optifast recommended by my doctor. I know it's not sustainable, 800 calories a day is not enough and on and on and on but for me it helped me shed a some weight in short order, taught me I could live on less and not feel bad, avoided surgery, got me off the diabetic meds that were actually working against me in getting in shape.

I have made it through transition (I hope) and have learned a ton here on MFP that helped me do it. I never consider the weight or condition of those offering to help and have greatly appreciated the help and motivation from all.

Thank you all for serving as my cyber support team!

morgeliz16

Thank you. I have done p90x before and it was easy for me because I had previously worked out. I haven't worked out in six months. That's the only reason I stated my health, I wanted to help because I know p90x is not easy.

morgeliz16

agreed big time

except for nutritional info. Our food is not near the quality it once was

Amen to that. I thought eating healthy would do the trick. I only ate 1200 calories or less, and now I eat at least 1800 and I'm losing weight.

geebusuk

Sure, what works 40 years ago will still work now. But it may well be that the WHY it works is now much better understood, to the point that what 'worked' 40 years ago isn't considered very good now, or may even be considered dangerous.


Also, errr....

consider the source. If they don't look healthy they have no place giving fitness advice.

While I could 'look' more 'healthy' myself, your profile picture to me suggests you look over-fat and I don't see significant muscle behind that.
Should I/we thus ignore your initial post from that?

phoenixx866

zyxst

And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?

Depends. Does Henry Cavill have his shirt off? :blushing:


But really, I wouldn't hire either because I'm poor.

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zyxst

And I submit this: If 2 personal trainers say: "I can make you fit" and one looks like Jabba the Hutt and the second looks like Henry Cavill- who are you going to hire?

Depends. Does Henry Cavill have his shirt off? :blushing:


But really, I wouldn't hire either because I'm poor.

I would hire him...doesn't matter what for as long as he looks like that. He could be crap at the job too, I'd still keep him around.

Capt_Apollo

agreed big time

except for nutritional info. Our food is not near the quality it once was

you're right. it's probably a lot better.

Becre8tive

from people who are more out of shape than me...

In today's; "I read it on the internet so it must be right" trend, everyone is a fitness expert and I get sick of people that don't even work out (or do so once in a while) trying to tell me what's best for my workout or physical appearance.

The truth is this; the FACTS about exercise, nutrition, metabolism, calories etc. Never change. The fads are based purely on misinformation and are intended more on commercialism than health. I have been exercising regularly since I was 14. I've seen trends come and go and they are all the same: "This is the NEW way to lose weight, get healthy, eat right etc."

There is no "NEW" way. Body physiology does not change with the times. What worked 30 years ago, still works today. What worked 100 years ago still works today. When you get advice from someone- consider the source. If they don't look healthy they have no place giving fitness advice.

And if you get your "facts" from the internet, back them up with at least 3 other sources. You will often find that the article you read is very one-sided and is not based on anything but anecdotal evidence- which is always flawed.

JassiBear

from people who are more out of shape than me...

In today's; "I read it on the internet so it must be right" trend, everyone is a fitness expert and I get sick of people that don't even work out (or do so once in a while) trying to tell me what's best for my workout or physical appearance.

The truth is this; the FACTS about exercise, nutrition, metabolism, calories etc. Never change. The fads are based purely on misinformation and are intended more on commercialism than health. I have been exercising regularly since I was 14. I've seen trends come and go and they are all the same: "This is the NEW way to lose weight, get healthy, eat right etc."

There is no "NEW" way. Body physiology does not change with the times. What worked 30 years ago, still works today. What worked 100 years ago still works today. When you get advice from someone- consider the source. If they don't look healthy they have no place giving fitness advice.

And if you get your "facts" from the internet, back them up with at least 3 other sources. You will often find that the article you read is very one-sided and is not based on anything but anecdotal evidence- which is always flawed.

Aside from all of this.... everyone has a unique structure... though we are all human.. our DNA is slightly different from every other person... you have to experiment with your body and do what gets YOU the optimal results.. what works for one very well may not work for another so well... plus it depends on nutrition... all fitness results depend on nutrition... I say experiment with fitness just like people experiment with different diets... soooooo yeah... and I wouldn't take advice from anyone who doesn't PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH... EVER lol.

sculli123

I suppose you wouldn't take fitness advice from a cat, either. But look at this guy. Primo physique. DYEA? (Do you even agility?)



I was shocked at the lack of cat gifs, here.

I love this cat.