Hey bro! You a Metrosexual or a Spornosexual?

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  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    Can I recommend an NA meeting (since you are recovering from subtance abuse)? Addiction isn't really about the drugs that we do but our attitude towards ourselves and others. If you really don't want to revisit the substance abuse, there is also a group called Celebrate Recovery that covers these principles without singling out a specific vice in one's life.

    ^ i used to attend those during my first two years of sobriety - I have about 4 years+ under my belt I did AA, NA, and even went to Celebrate Recovery - it's good but they focus on ppl that are still struggling with using... I struggle with saying no to eating a piece of white bread and making my six pack not look as attractive - there isn't a chance in the world I'm ever using again - using was me putting a bandaid on a bigger problem and that is I felt that there is no real purpose for our existence. In the grand scheme of things at the lvl of the cosmos we are insignificant as a hair on a gnats rear -

    now your input on not letting my things define me. - that is good I will admit I am totally doing that. I will continue working on enhancing your recommendations - its a slow process tho .

    First off, I have 8 1/2 years of sobriety myself. Congrats on 4 years.

    I can understand why you would hesitate to go back for another meeting. The reason why I brought it up is because you said that you have experienced that empty, purposeless feeling that a lot of addicts experienced once they have given up their substances. The problem is, that you are falling back on your possessions as a means to fill that emptiness. That indicates to me that you are still struggling with your addiction, even though you have the strength to actively choose not to use.

    If you don't want to go back to meetings, then maybe you should look into talking to a psychologist. I have one that I see occassionally whenever I feel like I need it. He helps me sort through the things I'm feeling, pinpoint the causes of them, and find solutions to keep from continuing that disturbing pattern of behavior. Basically, my psychologist helps me figure out how to be the person I want to be.

    *edited for typos - one of these days I will actually proof read BEFORE posting

    sigh.. yeah I might just to talk about my insomnia problems as well. I appreciate your recommendation - thanks to obamacare I have to pay for my first $5,000 of ALL medical expenses before my insurance kicks in... I opened a HSA to get the tax break but still.. da faq obama-
    #obamascrewedovertheyoungpeople
    :(

    Yeah, I'm totally with you on that one too. Best of luck!

    congrats on sobriety yourself. How many years before you felt...like that void gone? My only fear is I started using when I was really really really young, and immediately I noticed it helped me fall asleep so I used a great deal to treat my insomnia, but I can't recall if I had that.... 'nothingness' in me before I started using even...

    thanks, and also I'm not a big fan of the meetings because I just don't like hearing about ppl still in the trenches struggling, I pray and love them but it actually is a huge pull back for me recalling things and being able to relate... I feel.. sounds weird but I feel like an old soul having gone through all that, never catching a charge as you see loved ones and former friends lives just decimated... I feel like an entirely different person but at the meetings I don't I feel like the same scumbag I used to be and I leave feeling depressed from all the focus put on simply not using..


    ...apologies if that comes off as totally nutty- it is very very hard to explain.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    Can I recommend an NA meeting (since you are recovering from subtance abuse)? Addiction isn't really about the drugs that we do but our attitude towards ourselves and others. If you really don't want to revisit the substance abuse, there is also a group called Celebrate Recovery that covers these principles without singling out a specific vice in one's life.

    ^ i used to attend those during my first two years of sobriety - I have about 4 years+ under my belt I did AA, NA, and even went to Celebrate Recovery - it's good but they focus on ppl that are still struggling with using... I struggle with saying no to eating a piece of white bread and making my six pack not look as attractive - there isn't a chance in the world I'm ever using again - using was me putting a bandaid on a bigger problem and that is I felt that there is no real purpose for our existence. In the grand scheme of things at the lvl of the cosmos we are insignificant as a hair on a gnats rear -

    now your input on not letting my things define me. - that is good I will admit I am totally doing that. I will continue working on enhancing your recommendations - its a slow process tho .

    First off, I have 8 1/2 years of sobriety myself. Congrats on 4 years.

    I can understand why you would hesitate to go back for another meeting. The reason why I brought it up is because you said that you have experienced that empty, purposeless feeling that a lot of addicts experienced once they have given up their substances. The problem is, that you are falling back on your possessions as a means to fill that emptiness. That indicates to me that you are still struggling with your addiction, even though you have the strength to actively choose not to use.

    If you don't want to go back to meetings, then maybe you should look into talking to a psychologist. I have one that I see occassionally whenever I feel like I need it. He helps me sort through the things I'm feeling, pinpoint the causes of them, and find solutions to keep from continuing that disturbing pattern of behavior. Basically, my psychologist helps me figure out how to be the person I want to be.

    *edited for typos - one of these days I will actually proof read BEFORE posting

    sigh.. yeah I might just to talk about my insomnia problems as well. I appreciate your recommendation - thanks to obamacare I have to pay for my first $5,000 of ALL medical expenses before my insurance kicks in... I opened a HSA to get the tax break but still.. da faq obama-
    #obamascrewedovertheyoungpeople
    :(

    Yeah, I'm totally with you on that one too. Best of luck!

    congrats on sobriety yourself. How many years before you felt...like that void gone? My only fear is I started using when I was really really really young, and immediately I noticed it helped me fall asleep so I used a great deal to treat my insomnia, but I can't recall if I had that.... 'nothingness' in me before I started using even...

    thanks, and also I'm not a big fan of the meetings because I just don't like hearing about ppl still in the trenches struggling, I pray and love them but it actually is a huge pull back for me recalling things and being able to relate... I feel.. sounds weird but I feel like an old soul having gone through all that, never catching a charge as you see loved ones and former friends lives just decimated... I feel like an entirely different person but at the meetings I don't I feel like the same scumbag I used to be and I leave feeling depressed from all the focus put on simply not using..


    ...apologies if that comes off as totally nutty- it is very very hard to explain.

    Honestly, I completely understand where you are coming from. That is a big reason why I didn't go back when I probably could have used it.

    I was blessed because I had a good reason to get clean. I had lost custody of my kids and I had a goal to work on. Once I got my kids back, I still experienced that purposeless, emptiness, but instead of trying to fill the emptiness, I focused on finding a purpose. I kept myself distracted with self-improvement projects like getting an education and getting physically fit. Eventually, I felt better about myself because of what I accomplished and those empty, purposeless feelings subsided.

    Of course, you already seem to have those things under control. That is why I suggested a psychologist. It seems like maybe the things that helped me are just simply not enough for you.
  • bcoop911
    bcoop911 Posts: 1,390 Member
    This cracks me up... does this show traits of a sociopath? I think so... :-P he managed to turn a thread, that was purely him being a narcissistic *kitten* and pissing people off, completely around to the same people feeling sorry for him... This dude knows how to play the weak minded... A well versed troll for sure... Win to MrTolerable...
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    This cracks me up... does this show traits of a sociopath? I think so... :-P he managed to turn a thread, that was purely him being a *kitten* and pissing people off, completely around to the same people feeling sorry for him... This dude knows how to play the weak minded... A well versed troll for sure... Win to MrTolerable...

    Well that was just rude! I didn't realize recognizing someone with a problem that I could help with made me weak-minded. I simply thought it made me a good person.

    With a single statement, you went from a man with sage wisdom to a complete hypocrite. Nice trolling yourself, bcoop!
  • bcoop911
    bcoop911 Posts: 1,390 Member
    Well that was just rude!

    Sociopaths definitely know how to manipulate people... as we have just witnessed lol
  • Lauren8239
    Lauren8239 Posts: 1,039 Member
    For a guy who is all business and such - you certainly do have a lot of time to waste the last 2.5 hours of this non-sense!

    I won't in another 8 mins! :laugh:


    You need to take your watch back.......it's been a long 8 minutes.................:flowerforyou:
  • bcoop911
    bcoop911 Posts: 1,390 Member
    With a single statement, you went from a man with sage wisdom to a complete hypocrite. Nice trolling yourself, bcoop!

    Wording here... NOTHING that I said AT ALL made me a hypocrite... I never contradicted anything I said previously. Definitely think you need to check your definition of a "hypocrite."
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    Well that was just rude!

    Sociopaths definitely know how to manipulate people... as we have just witnessed lol

    You know, I just can't even... why you have chosen to attack someone for trying to help...

    I really thought that was what you were trying to do with all your meaningful quotes, but I guess you were just wagging your finger.
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    This cracks me up... does this show traits of a sociopath? I think so... :-P he managed to turn a thread, that was purely him being a narcissistic *kitten* and pissing people off, completely around to the same people feeling sorry for him... This dude knows how to play the weak minded... A well versed troll for sure... Win to MrTolerable...
    :embarassed:
    bcoop I was really nice and was awaiting for your input... even said it humbly!!

    I made this thread because I saw on the drudge report that spornosexual is a new variant of what would have typically been a man labeled as a metrosexual - for people that have a background or interest in marketing this is a big deal - it was for purposes of education and to be fun.

    This idea that there is a huge secret agenda of mine to...idk do like evil sociopath-like things is- well frankly it's crazzzy!

    This was a thread I started, you didn't have to be a part of it if you didn't like the subject matter. - and I got a great deal of education and knowledge out of this so thanks for everyone's input... even Mr. bcoop because your points earlier were accurate.
    :drinker:
  • sklarbodds
    sklarbodds Posts: 608 Member
    I actually thought the article was was hilarious :)
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I actually thought the article was was hilarious :)

    good! I thought it was good fun as well, and then I ended up learning a descent bit on the bunny trail to boot.

    #W!N
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    Can you post the gif of you doing squats in your bathrobe again?

    We need some humor in here.

    I thought something smelled like Nutella and the enchanted forest.
  • bcoop911
    bcoop911 Posts: 1,390 Member
    This cracks me up... does this show traits of a sociopath? I think so... :-P he managed to turn a thread, that was purely him being a narcissistic *kitten* and pissing people off, completely around to the same people feeling sorry for him... This dude knows how to play the weak minded... A well versed troll for sure... Win to MrTolerable...
    :embarassed:
    bcoop I was really nice and was awaiting for your input... even said it humbly!!

    I made this thread because I saw on the drudge report that spornosexual is a new variant of what would have typically been a man labeled as a metrosexual - for people that have a background or interest in marketing this is a big deal - it was for purposes of education and to be fun.

    This idea that there is a huge secret agenda of mine to...idk do like evil sociopath-like things is- well frankly it's crazzzy!

    This was a thread I started, you didn't have to be a part of it if you didn't like the subject matter. - and I got a great deal of education and knowledge out of this so thanks for everyone's input... even Mr. bcoop because your points earlier were accurate.
    :drinker:

    I think your previous pseudonyms have left you with a pretty solid troll reputation. It is hard to take ANY of this thread seriously, especially the DRASTIC humbling in a matter of minutes. I have watched my share of manipulators who can portray very different facades to get people to think the way they want them to. I wasn't suggesting a sociopath in a serial killer type way, there are PLENTY of very successful people that are not murderers, who psychologically meet every trait of being a sociopath, that have been great at manipulating their way to the top and shaping relationships to benefit themselves. Happens a lot in business and politics.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    This cracks me up... does this show traits of a sociopath? I think so... :-P he managed to turn a thread, that was purely him being a narcissistic *kitten* and pissing people off, completely around to the same people feeling sorry for him... This dude knows how to play the weak minded... A well versed troll for sure... Win to MrTolerable...
    :embarassed:
    bcoop I was really nice and was awaiting for your input... even said it humbly!!

    I made this thread because I saw on the drudge report that spornosexual is a new variant of what would have typically been a man labeled as a metrosexual - for people that have a background or interest in marketing this is a big deal - it was for purposes of education and to be fun.

    This idea that there is a huge secret agenda of mine to...idk do like evil sociopath-like things is- well frankly it's crazzzy!

    This was a thread I started, you didn't have to be a part of it if you didn't like the subject matter. - and I got a great deal of education and knowledge out of this so thanks for everyone's input... even Mr. bcoop because your points earlier were accurate.
    :drinker:

    I think your previous pseudonyms have left you with a pretty solid troll reputation. It is hard to take ANY of this thread seriously, especially the DRASTIC humbling in a matter of minutes. I have watched my share of manipulators who can portray very different facades to get people to think the way they want them to. I wasn't suggesting a sociopath in a serial killer type way, there are PLENTY of very successful people that are not murderers, who psychologically meet every trait of being a sociopath, that have been great at manipulating their way to the top and shaping relationships to benefit themselves. Happens a lot in business and politics.

    I think that is a pretty lame argument for calling me weak-minded, simply because I wanted to help him. :mad:
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    ha-ha-another-white-blonde.gif

    Kansas City and white robes come to mind OP. . .
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    This cracks me up... does this show traits of a sociopath? I think so... :-P he managed to turn a thread, that was purely him being a narcissistic *kitten* and pissing people off, completely around to the same people feeling sorry for him... This dude knows how to play the weak minded... A well versed troll for sure... Win to MrTolerable...
    :embarassed:
    bcoop I was really nice and was awaiting for your input... even said it humbly!!

    I made this thread because I saw on the drudge report that spornosexual is a new variant of what would have typically been a man labeled as a metrosexual - for people that have a background or interest in marketing this is a big deal - it was for purposes of education and to be fun.

    This idea that there is a huge secret agenda of mine to...idk do like evil sociopath-like things is- well frankly it's crazzzy!

    This was a thread I started, you didn't have to be a part of it if you didn't like the subject matter. - and I got a great deal of education and knowledge out of this so thanks for everyone's input... even Mr. bcoop because your points earlier were accurate.
    :drinker:

    I think your previous pseudonyms have left you with a pretty solid troll reputation. It is hard to take ANY of this thread seriously, especially the DRASTIC humbling in a matter of minutes. I have watched my share of manipulators who can portray very different facades to get people to think the way they want them to. I wasn't suggesting a sociopath in a serial killer type way, there are PLENTY of very successful people that are not murderers that have been great at manipulating their way to the top and shaping relationships to benefit themselves. Happens a lot in business and politics.

    ^I had one previous name on MFP ? Not a list of pseudonyms that 'nutuebralla' or whatever was just a nickname or something I thought all those ppl were calling me or a forum term because they started calling me that once I made an acct- I only joined this thing like 2 or 3 months ago.
    And I am ALWAYS humble in some regards because I have some major improvements to be made there - if I am called out on it I'm not ganna act like I got things all together - and admitting those area's I need improvements is what has enabled me to fix tons of other area's I had huge problems with over the past few years.

    There is no conspiracy here tho. lmao.. I'm flattered tho you think that.
  • bcoop911
    bcoop911 Posts: 1,390 Member
    I think that is a pretty lame argument for calling me weak-minded, simply because I wanted to help him. :mad:

    The post you just quoted had nothing to do with your post... I wasn't arguing anything you said with it. So obviously an argument NOT directed at something would be a lame argument to the thing that it WASNT directed at. haha

    Weak-minded doesn't mean stupid; It doesn't mean uneducated; It just means easier to manipulate, in the context in which I used it.
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    ha-ha-another-white-blonde.gif

    Kansas City and white robes come to mind OP. . .

    I don't even know what you mean?!

    I was just teasing about doing lunges in a robe I never actually did that - she was referencing a .gif
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I think that is a pretty lame argument for calling me weak-minded, simply because I wanted to help him. :mad:

    The post you just quoted had nothing to do with your post... I wasn't arguing anything you said with it. So obviously an argument NOT directed at something would be a lame argument to the thing that it WASNT directed at. haha

    Weak-minded doesn't mean stupid; It doesn't mean uneducated; It just means easier to manipulate, in the context in which I used it.

    ^your making me wish I had made my name Loki lmao.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    I think that is a pretty lame argument for calling me weak-minded, simply because I wanted to help him. :mad:

    The post you just quoted had nothing to do with your post... I wasn't arguing anything you said with it. So obviously an argument NOT directed at something would be a lame argument to the thing that it WASNT directed at. haha

    Weak-minded doesn't mean stupid; It doesn't mean uneducated; It just means easier to manipulate, in the context in which I used it.

    Well I'm NOT easy to manipulate. I see the good in people... even *kitten*. But hey, I try not to judge people. Everyone has had their walk in life, and none of us know what it was like for anyone else.

    However, you have judged the OP, who admittedly set himself up for it with this thread, but then judged me as well because I was rallying your "something is not right with you" charge, and at least trying to offer up constructive ways for OP to get right.
  • bcoop911
    bcoop911 Posts: 1,390 Member
    I think that is a pretty lame argument for calling me weak-minded, simply because I wanted to help him. :mad:

    The post you just quoted had nothing to do with your post... I wasn't arguing anything you said with it. So obviously an argument NOT directed at something would be a lame argument to the thing that it WASNT directed at. haha

    Weak-minded doesn't mean stupid; It doesn't mean uneducated; It just means easier to manipulate, in the context in which I used it.

    ^your making me wish I had made my name Loki lmao.

    Well, I figured it was confirmed above that you were the "notorious" (used loosely) "NutellaBrah," who apparently used to troll the forums JUST like this in the past. Still hard to take the thread seriously.
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I think that is a pretty lame argument for calling me weak-minded, simply because I wanted to help him. :mad:

    The post you just quoted had nothing to do with your post... I wasn't arguing anything you said with it. So obviously an argument NOT directed at something would be a lame argument to the thing that it WASNT directed at. haha

    Weak-minded doesn't mean stupid; It doesn't mean uneducated; It just means easier to manipulate, in the context in which I used it.

    Well I'm NOT easy to manipulate. I see the good in people... even *kitten*. But hey, I try not to judge people. Everyone has had their walk in life, and none of us know what it was like for anyone else.

    However, you have judged the OP, who admittedly set himself up for it with this thread, but then judged me as well because I was rallying your "something is not right with you" charge, and at least trying to offer up constructive ways for OP to get right.

    I respond and am moved deeply by sincerity - especially someone that has faced similar demons I have. - your points and guidance have proved beneficial to me and I'm going to work on my spiritual life and start thinking about it... to be quit frank it's been the last thing on my mind over the past few years.

    If Bcoop thinks I got that beneficial point as a result of manipulation - so be it. :shrugs: - either way I have something to focus on now that could potentially aid my insomnia and fix the void.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    ha-ha-another-white-blonde.gif

    Kansas City and white robes come to mind OP. . .

    I don't even know what you mean?!

    I was just teasing about doing lunges in a robe I never actually did that - she was referencing a .gif

    Watch Blazing Saddles, first 10 minutes, and you'll get it.
  • bcoop911
    bcoop911 Posts: 1,390 Member
    Well I'm NOT easy to manipulate. I see the good in people... even *kitten*. But hey, I try not to judge people. Everyone has had their walk in life, and none of us know what it was like for anyone else.

    However, you have judged the OP, who admittedly set himself up for it with this thread, but then judged me as well because I was rallying your "something is not right with you" charge, and at least trying to offer up constructive ways for OP to get right.

    My intent wasn't to be a personal attack on you... my mistake...
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    I think that is a pretty lame argument for calling me weak-minded, simply because I wanted to help him. :mad:

    The post you just quoted had nothing to do with your post... I wasn't arguing anything you said with it. So obviously an argument NOT directed at something would be a lame argument to the thing that it WASNT directed at. haha

    Weak-minded doesn't mean stupid; It doesn't mean uneducated; It just means easier to manipulate, in the context in which I used it.

    Well I'm NOT easy to manipulate. I see the good in people... even *kitten*. But hey, I try not to judge people. Everyone has had their walk in life, and none of us know what it was like for anyone else.

    However, you have judged the OP, who admittedly set himself up for it with this thread, but then judged me as well because I was rallying your "something is not right with you" charge, and at least trying to offer up constructive ways for OP to get right.

    I respond and am moved deeply by sincerity - especially someone that has faced similar demons I have. - your points and guidance have proved beneficial to me and I'm going to work on my spiritual life and start thinking about it... to be quit frank it's been the last thing on my mind over the past few years.

    If Bcoop thinks I got that beneficial point as a result of manipulation - so be it. :shrugs: - either way I have something to focus on now that could potentially aid my insomnia and fix the void.

    *hugs*

    FWIW... I believe in you... even if no one else on this site does.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    I think that is a pretty lame argument for calling me weak-minded, simply because I wanted to help him. :mad:

    The post you just quoted had nothing to do with your post... I wasn't arguing anything you said with it. So obviously an argument NOT directed at something would be a lame argument to the thing that it WASNT directed at. haha

    Weak-minded doesn't mean stupid; It doesn't mean uneducated; It just means easier to manipulate, in the context in which I used it.

    That's not what it means:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/weak+minded?s=t


    someone who's easy to manipulate would be trusting and naive. (which are not bad qualities)
  • QueenBishOTUniverse
    QueenBishOTUniverse Posts: 14,121 Member
    Here OP,
    We can settle this very quickly:
    http://personality-testing.info/tests/SD3.php

    Report back with your results when you're done.
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I think that is a pretty lame argument for calling me weak-minded, simply because I wanted to help him. :mad:

    The post you just quoted had nothing to do with your post... I wasn't arguing anything you said with it. So obviously an argument NOT directed at something would be a lame argument to the thing that it WASNT directed at. haha

    Weak-minded doesn't mean stupid; It doesn't mean uneducated; It just means easier to manipulate, in the context in which I used it.

    ^your making me wish I had made my name Loki lmao.

    Well, I figured it was confirmed above that you were the "notorious" (used loosely) "NutellaBrah," who apparently used to troll the forums JUST like this in the past. Still hard to take the thread seriously.

    negative - but I appreciate the explanation on "nutellabrah"

    "troll" - and I wasn't the one that derailed my own forum btw... once the bunny trail opened up tho I did take off at a gallop.
  • bcoop911
    bcoop911 Posts: 1,390 Member
    That's not what it means:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/weak+minded?s=t


    someone who's easy to manipulate would be trusting and naive. (which are not bad qualities)

    " foolish" in that definition you just posted which also fits in "lacking forethought or caution" which can also go hand in hand with naïve... but either way
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    Here OP,
    We can settle this very quickly:
    http://personality-testing.info/tests/SD3.php

    Report back with your results when you're done.

    my company just spent a fortune having me tested.

    I'm a Artisan Role Variant - a promoter.

    edit: I'm a promoter

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