Any young black women looking to get thin?
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I'm so confused.... The women on here arguing for OP and bringing up History... all date/married white people...but still feel pressured to have a big booty? I think I'll exit the door slowly now....
For whatever it's worth, that is kind of an interesting little factoid.
Honestly, it probably means nothing...but it's still interesting.
I think it just illustrates that pressures of appearance may be more likely perpetuated by women, and not the men they're trying to impress...
That is a good point.
To the black women of the thread that get pressured into looking a certain way, would you say that that pressure comes primarily from men or women?0 -
I'm so confused.... The women on here arguing for OP and bringing up History... all date/married white people...but still feel pressured to have a big booty? I think I'll exit the door slowly now....
For whatever it's worth, that is kind of an interesting little factoid.
Honestly, it probably means nothing...but it's still interesting.
I think it just illustrates that pressures of appearance may be more likely perpetuated by women, and not the men they're trying to impress...
John is absolutely right
read this article.... men and women do have different ideals of beauty and women do perpetuate a certain ideal body type that may not be the same as what men find to be "beautiful"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2521921/Picture-shows-ideal-female-face-according-men-women.html0 -
Well I'm outta this thread. No sense in even saying anything else.
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Also, consider the amount of "do men like xyz" threads.0
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Just saying....
If someone started a thread with the title, "Any YOUNG WHITE people looking to lose weight?" Then proceeded to try to exclude any non-"white" posters, wouldn't they be seen a racist?
It seems there is inequality in the perspective of political correctness here. It's a blurry line that leads to a never-ending debate. Nobody ever wins this one.
My advice to OP:
There are websites dedicated to people who choose to be identified by nothing more than their, "color." This is not one of them. If you're going to start a thread here, be ready to include all members of all walks of life. By not doing so, you are the one discriminating the excluded party based on the color of their skin.
And to add to this...it is also against the guidelines and the reason that MFP allows for Groups.0 -
I just hate that I have to fear getting banned to contribute anything meaningful to this discourse, as I believe some good could be done by here. You seldom get to discuss things like this in venue with so many different viewpoints.
Two strikes huh?
You should report him...just to see what happens.
:laugh: As fun as that experiment sounds, I have issues with the censorship of opinions.0 -
I've been thinking about this in the context of being a guy on MFP (I won't pretend to know what it is like to be a racial minority).
If I were to generalize, I think it would be safe to say the majority of users on this site are women. On more than one occasion I've thought to myself that it would be nice to have more male friends on my friends list.
I'm in a couple male specific groups. Its nice to have guys on my FL since they problems they would have are similar to mine in most instances. That doesn't mean I don't like women or wouldn't welcome them, as others have said its just nice to have others you can more easily relate to.
Reverse Sexism!
Oh wait.
It is fine for women to hang out with women. Fine for men to hang out with men. Fine for a 5'4" apple shaped chick to want other 5'4" apple shaped women to talk to BUT the minute you start talking about wanting to hang out with people the same color as you everyone goes crazy.
Race and religion seem to have a pretty similar effect on here from my experience.0 -
Don't judge the OP...........
its about race because there are different cultural standards of beauty within the black community vs. the white community weight wise, at least. Black women typically are built different than white women.......and all you have to do is look at the latest Rick Ross video to see what the idea of beauty is in the black culture..... and its not Kate Moss.
You can't be serious?
I'm one hundred percent serious. THE STANDARDS OF BEAUTY VARY FROM THE WHITE COMMUNITY TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY when it comes to the IDEAL BODY TYPE OF A FEMALE............. its very obvious in our pop culture ARE YOU BLIND? Look at Nicki Minaj, Look at Jennifer Lopez, look at rap music videos......
Maybe you should look in other place besides what's on tv honey? Beauty is everywhere no matter what color you are. And by the way, JLo is not black. The STANDARD of beauty has to do what's inside of every individual, no matter what color you are. I’m sorry whoever made you feel like you have to have a big booty to feel like a standard woman of your color. The point is, this site is about losing weight and all races lose the same way, calories in vs calories out. If any other race would have posted this, it would get the exact reaction.
Well I wish more people as good-hearted as you are would have been around........in America..........Three Hundred years ago..........where Black PEOPLE were considered less than human......and put on par with ANIMALS.
It's not 300 years ago. And it was people of all color who was treated this way. A long, long time ago, a man of an unknown color was done wrong too. But, we have been forgiven. GIRL, don't get me preaching in here.
SLAVERY DID BEGIN IN AMERICA 300 YEARS AGO IN THE 1700'S. I took history class and I am college educated. America is also not the only place where slavery went on or even where it began for that matter. Check your facts boo, then comment.0 -
Just saying....
If someone started a thread with the title, "Any YOUNG WHITE people looking to lose weight?" Then proceeded to try to exclude any non-"white" posters, wouldn't they be seen a racist?
It seems there is inequality in the perspective of political correctness here. It's a blurry line that leads to a never-ending debate. Nobody ever wins this one.
My advice to OP:
There are websites dedicated to people who choose to be identified by nothing more than their, "color." This is not one of them. If you're going to start a thread here, be ready to include all members of all walks of life. By not doing so, you are the one discriminating the excluded party based on the color of their skin.
And to add to this...it is also against the guidelines and the reason that MFP allows for Groups.
It's really not.
There is a black person success thread that was looked into and upheld by the mods, who determined it no different that '5'4" apple shaped women with PCOS' threads. It is not against the guidelines AT ALL and has total moderate/site support.0 -
Understandable.I'm so confused.... The women on here arguing for OP and bringing up History... all date/married white people...but still feel pressured to have a big booty? I think I'll exit the door slowly now....
For whatever it's worth, that is kind of an interesting little factoid.
Honestly, it probably means nothing...but it's still interesting.
I think it just illustrates that pressures of appearance may be more likely perpetuated by women, and not the men they're trying to impress...
I thought this was common knowledge? I don't dress up and do my hair for my husband after all. (He'd prefer me naked and in bed 24-7)
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I really don't get this.
If a black woman wants to connect with other black women. LET HER. ENCOURAGE HER.
If a christian wants to connect with other christians... LET THEM
If a person who is 5'0 wants to connect with other 5'0 people... LET THEM
If someone wants to connect with other people who have 100 pounds to lose... LET THEM
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WANTING TO FIND SOMEONE YOU CAN RELATE TO.
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yep...and rightly so.Just saying....
If someone started a thread with the title, "Any YOUNG WHITE people looking to lose weight?" Then proceeded to try to exclude any non-"white" posters, wouldn't they be seen a racist?
It seems there is inequality in the perspective of political correctness here. It's a blurry line that leads to a never-ending debate. Nobody ever wins this one.
My advice to OP:
There are websites dedicated to people who choose to be identified by nothing more than their, "color." This is not one of them. If you're going to start a thread here, be ready to include all members of all walks of life. By not doing so, you are the one discriminating the excluded party based on the color of their skin.
And to add to this...it is also against the guidelines and the reason that MFP allows for Groups.
It's really not.
There is a black person success thread that was looked into and upheld by the mods, who determined it no different that '5'4" apple shaped women with PCOS' threads. It is not against the guidelines AT ALL and has total moderate/site support.0 -
Don't mind me, just in for the comments before the lock.
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Just saying....
If someone started a thread with the title, "Any YOUNG WHITE people looking to lose weight?" Then proceeded to try to exclude any non-"white" posters, wouldn't they be seen a racist?
It seems there is inequality in the perspective of political correctness here. It's a blurry line that leads to a never-ending debate. Nobody ever wins this one.
My advice to OP:
There are websites dedicated to people who choose to be identified by nothing more than their, "color." This is not one of them. If you're going to start a thread here, be ready to include all members of all walks of life. By not doing so, you are the one discriminating the excluded party based on the color of their skin.
And to add to this...it is also against the guidelines and the reason that MFP allows for Groups.
It's really not.
There is a black person success thread that was looked into and upheld by the mods, who determined it no different that '5'4" apple shaped women with PCOS' threads. It is not against the guidelines AT ALL and has total moderate/site support.
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As a "typical white male" I find the apprehension of trying not to be "racist" makes me act more differently than I would have if just treat someone "different" in any way as if I was colorblind.
I find usually trying "too" hard makes me treat anyone differently if at all, and I often hope this is not too transparent.
I know personally I act and post things on my feed that are very cynical about race relations/stereotypes and the like because I wish things didn't have to be that way.
But I find it hard when situations come up to know how I am "supposed" to respond.
That said, I probably try too hard to treat all people the same.0 -
Just saying....
If someone started a thread with the title, "Any YOUNG WHITE people looking to lose weight?" Then proceeded to try to exclude any non-"white" posters, wouldn't they be seen a racist?
It seems the inequality lies in the perspective of political correctness here. It's a blurry line that leads to a never-ending debate. Nobody ever wins this one.
My advice to OP:
There are websites dedicated to people who choose to be identified by nothing more than their, "color." This is not one of them. If you're going to start a thread here, be ready to include all members of all walks of life. By not doing so, you are the one discriminating the excluded party based on the color of their skin.
What about all the groups for just men or just women? What about the groups based on body shape? Do you go into threads about that and tell people they're discriminating?
Or is it just a problem when it relates to race?
I feel if the exclusion is based on something a person did not choose, such as gender or race, then it becomes a problem.
If the exclusion is based on people with similar interests in choices, such as gaining muscle or losing fat, then it morally constitutes as acceptable.
Of course, when it comes to this topic it is always subjective. One thing is for sure; by accusing an entire population of people to be racist, the result is the most disgusting form of stereotyping and hypocrisy known to mankind. People of all "colors," can relate to each other. We are all human.0 -
I heard I could get a date in here?0
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Just saying....
If someone started a thread with the title, "Any YOUNG WHITE people looking to lose weight?" Then proceeded to try to exclude any non-"white" posters, wouldn't they be seen a racist?
It seems there is inequality in the perspective of political correctness here. It's a blurry line that leads to a never-ending debate. Nobody ever wins this one.
My advice to OP:
There are websites dedicated to people who choose to be identified by nothing more than their, "color." This is not one of them. If you're going to start a thread here, be ready to include all members of all walks of life. By not doing so, you are the one discriminating the excluded party based on the color of their skin.
And to add to this...it is also against the guidelines and the reason that MFP allows for Groups.
It's really not.
There is a black person success thread that was looked into and upheld by the mods, who determined it no different that '5'4" apple shaped women with PCOS' threads. It is not against the guidelines AT ALL and has total moderate/site support.
If this was a Jewish man wanting to connect to other Jews keeping Kosher while dieting, noone would say boo. The OP is fine- her cultural experience and the norm for beauty in that culture really are NOT the same as a white american. And, yes, people do tend to be pulled towards people/mates who look like them . There have been studies that validate we are coded that way. I like men who look "Mediterranean" - like George Clooney cause I'm half-Arabic and I think dark, olive complexion, dark hair and strong facial features (aka, high cheeks and hawk nose) are good looking. *shrug*0 -
I heard I could get a date in here?
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