Childhood Obesity= CHILD ABUSE

k_nicole87 · June 2014

Avoiding my question? For someone with so many answers, you certainly don't seem to have any.

JassiBear · June 2014

Nonetheless this is a free country where I live and I and everyone else on this board is entitled to opinion. If I did nothing today but make someone feel guilty or raise awareness then I have accomplished my job.

sculli123 · June 2014

Then their kids will remain fat. Taking them away and putting them in the care of random strangers isn't going to solve anything. Foster parents are usually just in it for the money and not the kids' best interest. Also, it would be yet another expense for the taxpayers to deal with.

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k_nicole87 · June 2014

So all you have is a head full of opinions and no ideas or plans. Very wise of you.

Grumpsandwich · June 2014

It kind of helps if you direct your question with the persons screen name as these posts are passing a mile a minute

JassiBear · June 2014

This is a problem with the capitalist system because companies are willing to serve low quality foods at cheap prices in order to make maximum profit. In the capitalist system, competition and free market economics are the prominent dynamic, thus, the cheaper a company can make a product, without sacrificing quality to the point that no-one would buy it.... the cheaper the company will do it to stay on top. This is why McDonalds has been on top for ages......... yet........ go to McDonalds and try to buy a salad and the price is quite higher than cheeseburger.... Why is this? Probably not just because the ingredients are more expensive, but also because they know they have a large market audience of people looking to get healthy or stay healthy and therefore will sacrifice more money to have fresh healthy food when on the go. Simple supply and demand really.

PRMinx · June 2014

If we lived in a socialist system and had to stand in line for our rations, we wouldn't be obese. So, obviously, that's the right way to go.

JassiBear · June 2014

I'm beginning to think that you did not read my entire answer to your question/post. Re-read and try again. Thank you.

PaleoPath4Lyfe · June 2014

I am sorry, but it is the parents fault. Get up 10 minutes earlier in the morning to prep meat and veggies in the crock pot to have supper ready when you get home from work.

I will always blame the parents. They are the ones buying the frozen foods or running their vehicle through the drive through lines at the fast food joint.

Buy the fresh vegetables, fruits, meats, etc................prep them and eat them. If anyone says they don't have time, they obviously have no time management skills.

TheVirgoddess · June 2014

Based on my interactions with you, I think you're a bit of a *kitten*. You have very strong opinions about things that you have no life experience in - you're totally unwilling to attempt to see anything from another POV. You like to shame and judge people and when they don't come to heel, you turn around and ask "WWJD".

I hope that growing up (because yesterday you weren't 21) softens you a bit and makes you realize that you don't actually know everything and life is all grays - not black and white.

Iron_Feline · June 2014

In the case I cited earlier the child lost 3 stone in foster care. You would have had her left with her family gaining more weight. And heaven forbid your tax dollars go to the care of a child to prevent their early death :noway:

DeguelloTex · June 2014

No, companies are willing to sell what people will buy. And, again, no. There is a continuum of quality; it is not binary between acceptable and not.

Let's presume everything you wrote is correct. What's a better system than supply and demand and what system provides more food and more options?

PRMinx · June 2014

The price for salad is higher because salad items are fresh (not frozen) and it costs more to maintain the supply chain of non-frozen items. McD's is in business because people buy their food. If people don't want to eat McDs food, then they can exercise some personal responsibility and make a different choice.

devil_in_a_blue_dress · June 2014

So nobody who is disagreeing with you read your post?

Harrisonsauntie2005 · June 2014

Yeah she is young and naïve so I can just roll my eyes and walk on by

k_nicole87 · June 2014

No, you didn't. I also asked in another post how you would combat the funding issues, the overcrowding issues within the system, and don't forget, the Constitutional issues.

TheVirgoddess · June 2014

Per the CDC:

The dietary and physical activity behaviors of children and adolescents are influenced by many sectors of society, including families, communities, schools, child care settings, medical care providers, faith-based institutions, government agencies, the media, and the food and beverage industries and entertainment industries.

Schools play a particularly critical role by establishing a safe and supportive environment with policies and practices that support healthy behaviors. Schools also provide opportunities for students to learn about and practice healthy eating and physical activity behaviors.

http://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/obesity/facts.htm

That doesn't absolve parents at all - but hopefully it will make you realize that there are many, many contributing factors that lead to obesity in children.

RINat612 · June 2014

Wow. This right here is why having constructive, adult conversations is impossible on a forum.

jwooley13 · June 2014

Wait what happened to the cats?

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TheLostMermaid · June 2014

If this is the kind of change that you wish to see in the world why not go make it happen instead of complaining about in a forum?

Clearly everyone on here wants a healthier life style. You want the kids to be healthy too?
Schools across the US are showing kids how to eat healthier. Teaching them how to get active. Even TV channels like the Disney channel encourage children to move and get outside.

People see the problem and they are trying to fix it. Fighting amongst ourselves is clearly not an answer.

http://www.change.org/

Make something happen

mojohowitz · June 2014

_KitKat_ · June 2014

I had a crispy chicken sandwich with mayo from Wendy's this weekend, MFP told me it was a healthy choice and had great protein

Look should parents do certain things...Yes.Are some parents just lazy....Yes. There is no way to enforce this that would work for the whole. There is also no one size fits all way to look at it.

All the people saying don't feed your kids junk.....blah....blah...... Sorry if you deny a human something it does not teach them to make choices regarding that thing. Moderation is the best thing to teach anyone. My kids are active, physically fit and they do eat fast food, chips, ice cream and candy........but they also eat a family dinner every night, veggies, fruit and salads...they love salad. Sometimes people sound so extreme.......well don't give the kids junk, or every excuse on why all the kids has is junk. Food is readily available, they need to know about all of it and make decisions. Food is not a reward or something to be denied, looking at it those ways almost guarantee's the child winds up on MFP with food issues.

martinel2099 · June 2014

I think the problem here is education in general. I don't think there are many parents out there who intentionally are making their children super obese.

I"ll use myself as a real example. Growing up I was always a chunky kid and only continued to gain weight as I got older well in to my 20's. I used to think that I was just unlucky and had a slower metabolism than most kids and thought I was just a fat exception to the normal population. What made me fat was eating too much high calorie food, not a lot of activity because I liked computers and video games and drinking lots of sugared soda.

I wish 15 years ago my school would have launched a calorie counting program and tied incentives to students to track, weigh and measure their food intake. I tried all the tricks to lose weight growing up, had I known that I would have been more than happy to track. Now that aps like fitness pal exist it's even easier than ever to watch what you eat.

TheVirgoddess · June 2014

It's not impossible - but when you're a parent and literally everyone has a freaking opinion about your parenting when they've never me you or your child you get frustrated. There is *so* much judgment being thrown at parents.

I don't automatically discount opinions of non-parents, but some are so ridiculous that I have to. Does that make sense? You can have an opinion - of course you can. But it's like me having an opinion on your golf swing - I literally have no experience, so you wouldn't take my opinion very seriously, would you?

KayJaMikel · June 2014

I have never been the most healthy of eaters, my mother cooked loaded in butter, fried things, etc., whatever she wanted, she made. She made the same veges all the time, string beans, corn is all I can remember. I remember once her making artichokes, which I did not eat. My grandma too. Grandma was German made perogies, stuffed cabbage, kielbasis, shells and cabbage, yummy, is all I can say, but I stayed thin until I had my first child. Then, I blew up, and my thyroid diagnosis.

Now, I don't know how to cook eat healthy and have been learning. My kids eat how I ate. Always. I have a super duper picky one who eats literally 1 thing every day. He will eat a few snacks, like ice cream, he loves popcorn and pringles, but his main meal is 1 thing, no veges, no fruits, etc. Anywho, my point is, since I am dieting, I will point out to the kids how many calories are in what they are about to eat, and I get "mom, I don't care." The one son is a super giant stalk skinny dude. The other is the picky one and it is worthless to tell him anything about eating healthy. He just wont eat it anyway and yes, he would rather starve. He is like me, eats to not die, food is not his thing, if he eats it is to stop his tummy growling. The third is my daughter, she is not fat by any means, but is is horrible shape. She is lazy though and exercise is not her thing. She has some flab in her tummy and she is always saying she is fat. I don't feel she is fat and I will not put my child on a diet, but with my dieting, I am trying to teach her healthier eating, but I am so new at it, it is very hard. Yes, I am responsible for how they eat, but I was taught the way I eat, by many generations, etc., pizza every Friday, drive through mcdonalds, etc., it is very hard to retrain yourself without the knowledge.

Anywho, I love my kids to death and have never laid a hand on them (I was hit a lot as a child with pots, fists, hands, belts, whatever my mother had to use to beat me with, and do not even spank their butts), and have never a day in their life abused them, but I share blame for how they eat, sharing with how I was taught and the things that are available to buy. You see stuff in the store and I used to think well they wouldn't sell if it if was bad for us. I was naive.

JenniferIsLosingIt · June 2014

Thank you! I find it highly offensive that we want to automatically blame parents and start snatching kids. For one thing there is genetics, and another you can plan carefully and do everything you know to do, and still have a child end up overweight. Are you going to follow these children every step of the day? To school, to their pals houses?? UGH! THis just makes me sick? Have you ever had to watch the look of hurt on a childs face when you tell them no you cant have this snack or no you cannot have a second portion of that item? How about trying to help the family with nutrition not snatch them from their families. I swear this has to be the stupidest damn thing I have ever heard..... and btw I work for a child abuse prevention program. This is just Stupid, with a capital S...smh

Grumpsandwich · June 2014

Ive read this same argument adnauseum on these boards and truly wonder if any of the posters who disagree that healthy food is more expensive have ever been poor?

Not all cities have farmers markets to get cheap produce. ( So dont even use that as an excuse) There hasnt been one anywhere near me since the 70s. As for growing in your yard.... It doesnt grow all year round and i for one wouldnt eat anything grown in this soil lol ( I did SPEND the money to build above ground garden boxes though but i can afford to do that now)

Have you ever had to scrounge through furniture or for bottles to feed your family?
You manage to find $2 please tell me what you are going to buy to feed your family of 3?

a pack of hot dogs or a head of lettuce... You ever been in this situation?

Meerataila · June 2014

Or how about the cost is higher because corn is subsidized? And now that corn prices are going up, farmers are feeding their cows rainbow sprinkles and cookies because that's still cheaper. And why is it cheaper? Subsidies. There is no free market and people without sufficient funds to buy healthier food have no choice but to buy the artificially cheap subsidized foods, therefore personal responsibility does not apply.

Childhood Obesity= CHILD ABUSE

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