Who knew sexism in churches still exists.
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It exists everywhere else; why not church? Prayer is a waste of time anyway. Just ignore it
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Simple. Don't go to that church.
Oh wait... you actually didn't...
Seriously, lighten up!0 -
the shocking thing here is that this is news to OP
The shocking thing here is that you seem baffled by the idea that there are people who may not have come across the same information you have.
Oh man. I think you should do a bit more reading. Leviticus would be an excellent place to start. There are many things in there you will find shocking.But I will say that no church I know follows these. No one expects women to be silent and ask questions at home only.
Unfortunately it's not up to the church to pick and choose what they follow. The bible is there as a guide and ignoring parts that people don't like makes people a hypocrite. This includes tattoos, gluttony, sex, women as property, etc.0 -
hoping this wasn't your first choice of places to go in order to discuss religion
Next up, abortion and gay marriage. You think some churches might have released some controversial statements on those?0 -
Uhhh jusst look at women not being allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church. If that isn't blatant sexism in a religion, I don't know what is.
I've always disagreed 100% with Catholicism. Protestant all the way!
How can you disagree 100% with Catholicism and still be a Protestant? Catholics are Christians and so to disagree 100% with Catholicism, you'd have to disagree with all the teachings of Christianity. If you disagree with all the teachings of Christianity, wouldn't that make you a Satanist?0 -
Sorry to disappoint, but I won't be dragged into a pointless argument with a stranger over the internet. Have yourself a wonderful day. 0
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I can only say you must be going to the wrong churches. I know it happens tough as friends of mine have recently quit their church due to the leaderships blinkered view on women in the church.
My view, church is for everyone, you need woman as mush as you need men to run a church. Same as every family needs to have a man and woman to steer that family in the right way.
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Ok serious side over time for a joke.
drunk man - excise me can you tell me where the other side of the road is
passer by - yes mate, it's over there.
Drunk man - cheers pal, some tosser told me it was over here0 -
Actually I can't be bothered. Blame the trolls.0
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What did you think would happen by creating this topic?Sorry to disappoint, but I won't be dragged into a pointless argument with a stranger over the internet. Have yourself a wonderful day.0 -
solid trolling.
6/10...would post again.0 -
Sorry to disappoint, but I won't be dragged into a pointless argument with a stranger over the internet. Have yourself a wonderful day.
Before you go, a suggestion if you want to keep your religious faith: Read the gospels a few dozen times or however long it takes for you to understand what your religion wants of you.
Then go find a community that has the same basic understanding you do.
Otherwise, what good is a religious community at all?0 -
Uhhh jusst look at women not being allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church. If that isn't blatant sexism in a religion, I don't know what is.
I've always disagreed 100% with Catholicism. Protestant all the way!
How can you disagree 100% with Catholicism and still be a Protestant? Catholics are Christians and so to disagree 100% with Catholicism, you'd have to disagree with all the teachings of Christianity. If you disagree with all the teachings of Christianity, wouldn't that make you a Satanist?
Haha, you got me. So maybe I don't disagree 100% with Catholicism. Hyperbole on my part. But I do disagree with some of the basic foundations of Catholicism, which does make me a Christian Protestant and definitely not a Satanist. And I think that not everyone who does disagree with all the teachings of Christianity automatically qualifies to be a Satanist. There are some Atheists in this thread, who are neither Christians nor Satanists.0 -
It's a church whose teachings are based on the Bible. Not sure why you expected gender equality.0
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Next thing you know you'll find something controversial in the Bible!
That's just crazy talk! :laugh:0 -
Uhhh jusst look at women not being allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church. If that isn't blatant sexism in a religion, I don't know what is.
I've always disagreed 100% with Catholicism. Protestant all the way!
How can you disagree 100% with Catholicism and still be a Protestant? Catholics are Christians and so to disagree 100% with Catholicism, you'd have to disagree with all the teachings of Christianity. If you disagree with all the teachings of Christianity, wouldn't that make you a Satanist?
Thanks for saying it a lot nicer than I would have.0 -
What did you think would happen by creating this topic?Sorry to disappoint, but I won't be dragged into a pointless argument with a stranger over the internet. Have yourself a wonderful day.
That reply was meant for a single person, I forgot to quote the comment. I thought by creating this topic I would learn something new about religion, or lack thereof, and get to hear some interesting points of view. Which I have. One negative person doesn't erase everything else useful said here.0 -
It exists everywhere else; why not church? Prayer is a waste of time anyway. Just ignore it
I was healed instantly from gallbladder disease because of prayer. Instantly.0 -
To sum up religion-
"Hey bartender! Jobu needs a refill!!"0 -
Uhhh jusst look at women not being allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church. If that isn't blatant sexism in a religion, I don't know what is.
I've always disagreed 100% with Catholicism. Protestant all the way!
How can you disagree 100% with Catholicism and still be a Protestant? Catholics are Christians and so to disagree 100% with Catholicism, you'd have to disagree with all the teachings of Christianity. If you disagree with all the teachings of Christianity, wouldn't that make you a Satanist?
Nope. He doesn't exist either
It should make you an atheist. 0 -
You should join the Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pastafarianism sees no gender, race, or colour. Noodles love everyone equally.0
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In before the lock!
What could you possibly find objectionable in the notion that a rape victim be forced to marry the perpetrator?Oh man. I think you should do a bit more reading. Leviticus would be an excellent place to start. There are many things in there you will find shocking.0 -
Uhhh jusst look at women not being allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church. If that isn't blatant sexism in a religion, I don't know what is.
I've always disagreed 100% with Catholicism. Protestant all the way!
How can you disagree 100% with Catholicism and still be a Protestant? Catholics are Christians and so to disagree 100% with Catholicism, you'd have to disagree with all the teachings of Christianity. If you disagree with all the teachings of Christianity, wouldn't that make you a Satanist?
Haha, you got me. So maybe I don't disagree 100% with Catholicism. Hyperbole on my part. But I do disagree with some of the basic foundations of Catholicism, which does make me a Christian Protestant and definitely not a Satanist. And I think that not everyone who does disagree with all the teachings of Christianity automatically qualifies to be a Satanist. There are some Atheists in this thread, who are neither Christians nor Satanists.
For the sake of argument, I'd love to hear what basic foundations you disagree with.
(I'm going to go ahead and assume that you don't know much about Catholicism, since you obviously didn't know that sexism is a prevailing theme in the Bible perpetuated in every organized religion on the planet.)0 -
Sorry to disappoint, but I won't be dragged into a pointless argument with a stranger over the internet. Have yourself a wonderful day.
You post a topic about religion, make statements that make it blatantly clear you haven't read the bible completely, justify your own version of Christianity with nothing more than personal opinion and personal preference, talk about religion like you were shopping for the best deal on drapes to match your furniture (church with the most views that fit your own)...
and then when someone disagrees, you don't have time to be dragged into a pointless argument with a stranger over the internet...
all the while, posting in a public forum...on the internet...addressing strangers.
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It exists everywhere else; why not church? Prayer is a waste of time anyway. Just ignore it
I was healed instantly from gallbladder disease because of prayer. Instantly.
Oh? Do you have anything other than personal experience/anecdote to verify that?0 -
You should join the Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pastafarianism sees no gender, race, or colour. Noodles love everyone equally.
what about the gluten free ones?0 -
I didn't read your post or any other ones but just replying to the title...
Everyone....0 -
In before the lock!
What could you possibly find objectionable in the notion that a rape victim be forced to marry the perpetrator?Oh man. I think you should do a bit more reading. Leviticus would be an excellent place to start. There are many things in there you will find shocking.
Or that a woman on her period must take a dove to temple for sacrifice since she is "unclean"?0 -
Uhhh jusst look at women not being allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church. If that isn't blatant sexism in a religion, I don't know what is.
I've always disagreed 100% with Catholicism. Protestant all the way!
How can you disagree 100% with Catholicism and still be a Protestant? Catholics are Christians and so to disagree 100% with Catholicism, you'd have to disagree with all the teachings of Christianity. If you disagree with all the teachings of Christianity, wouldn't that make you a Satanist?
Haha, you got me. So maybe I don't disagree 100% with Catholicism. Hyperbole on my part. But I do disagree with some of the basic foundations of Catholicism, which does make me a Christian Protestant and definitely not a Satanist. And I think that not everyone who does disagree with all the teachings of Christianity automatically qualifies to be a Satanist. There are some Atheists in this thread, who are neither Christians nor Satanists.
For the sake of argument, I'd love to hear what basic foundations you disagree with.
(I'm going to go ahead and assume that you don't know much about Catholicism, since you obviously didn't know that sexism is a prevailing theme in the Bible perpetuated in every organized religion on the planet.)
My beliefs that have no basis in fact are better than your beliefs that have no basis in fact0 -
To the OP about the previous verses:
You have to take into account the cultural times. In those days the churches were split up Men on one side and Women on the other. The Women would ask questions during the service, because in those time they were not taught the same as men and they would interrupt and therefore they were told not to ask questions. The idea of submissiveness has been distorted. The Feminism in America has come in to turn it into something its not. That and men have taken it and abused it also. Yes a wife is to be submissive to her husband. But the husband is to love his wife as Christ loved the church, meaning giving of himself to her and serving her by laying his life down for her and leading her. The submissiveness in the bible does not indicate men being superior but being created as the leader. There is a set up authority: God leads the husband and the husband leads the wife. The wife is expected to submit to her husbands decisions unless it goes against God and His standards. That doesn't mean she gets trampled on but to look to her husband as the leader as she looks to Jesus as a leader. God set it up that way from the beginning. The command goes both ways. The husband has expectations and so does the wife. But people want to have their own independence and therefore do not want to be submissive to anyone especially God. Its not really about sexism as much as it is about independence from how God created things to be and its not really an offense from the church as it is towards God who created things. People want their life apart from the authority of God and It just gets twisted by a fallen nature and distorted into getting upset at a prayer that ask for men to be what they were created to be and women to be created to be. I don't say all this to be arrogant or anything. I really hope it doesn't come off that way. I just thought I would share a different point of view0 -
I hope you're wearing a hat when you pray, and that you don't talk in church.
The bible is sexist, how can you not expect some of that in church as well?0
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