Birthday Alternative for Cake and Ice Cream

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  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
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  • MHorvath85
    MHorvath85 Posts: 7 Member
    more cheesecake?

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    I mean, really. That's some nice looking drizzle...
  • CallMeCupcakeDammit
    CallMeCupcakeDammit Posts: 9,377 Member
    Hawaiian bread with frosting.

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    :heart:
  • gypsy_spirit
    gypsy_spirit Posts: 2,107 Member
    more cheesecake?

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    Now, this would work. Cheesecake is the closest thing to cake and ice cream together. 10/10 would eat.
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    In the same paragraph you said "bad food" AND said not to let food have power over you. HUH? Food is not "bad," eating it in excess is. Moderation, my friend.

    Seriously, labeling food as bad IS giving it power.

    Except for that whole science thing that shows even 40g of refined sugar every day (which is about only 25% of what the average American consumes every day) independently increases diabetes risk by about 18%. So telling the average person you need to cut out more than 75% of their daily sugar intake I think is far from moderation.

    Moderation itself is an ambiguous term defined by society and time. People who use moderation in their diet today would be the worst of the eaters 40 years ago.

    So if you label anger as a bad emotion is that giving it power? Um... No... It's just recognizing it's not the healthiest emotion to experience so you do things to avoid it. Bad foods = foods scientifically shown to have negative health effects. Refined sugar is top on the list. Even moderation has implications of bad. Trying to avoid labeling foods as bad is creating an environment that makes it justifiable to eat unhealthy foods when a person subjective deems fit which is far from optimal for progress and results. Other foods with a lot of scientific evidence behind it having negative health impacts are soy, Omega-6 imbalanced oils, and trans-fats to name a few.

    Care to make that science available to the rest of us (the study) so we can ruminate on it ourselves, such as looking to see if it's a cause=/= causation situation, an obesity related issue or one that's not likely to affect people of a normal weight. I kinda need to see the context before I jump on the demonic refined sugar bandwagon.
    Think he is talking about this:

    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/notes/2014/consultation-sugar-guideline/en/
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  • BombshellPhoenix
    BombshellPhoenix Posts: 1,693 Member
    Has anyone mentioned just eating cake and ice cream yet? TL; DR
  • CynthiaT60
    CynthiaT60 Posts: 1,280 Member
    I'd go for cake and ice cream right now; I'm only 180 calories over. :tongue:
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    Personally, I watch my ADDED sugars (free sugars, whatever you prefer) but I have no issues so I don't freak if they go over 40. I don't count things like fruit which has fructose as part of the whole food as added sugars, because it isn't.
  • CallMeCupcakeDammit
    CallMeCupcakeDammit Posts: 9,377 Member
    more cheesecake?

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    Now, this would work. Cheesecake is the closest thing to cake and ice cream together. 10/10 would eat.

    Me too. It's beautiful. :cry:
  • MicheleWE
    MicheleWE Posts: 179 Member
    I also agree with just plan the birthday week ahead so you can enjoy the special dessert without guilt. So, that day may not be a deficit day, but if you are still coming out at maintenance that's still a win right?

    That being said, I have tried many different solutions to this problem. I am not one that can be in a house with leftover cake, or any baked goods for that matter. They just beckon me and willpower goes on vacation somewhere. My family members choose various "treats" for their birthday celebrations so we have had fruit pizzas, pies, etc. So here are a few of my ideas....
    Bake cupcakes-portion control built right in.
    Light ice cream, frozen yogurt, etc (I really like the reduced sugar varieties and can't tell a difference)-I buy this for myself, so I may participate in having the treat without using so many calories on a full blown version, but get my family member their choice.
    Crumble a small portion of cake on top of a serving of ice cream-same flavor using much less so less calories.
    Modified dessert recipes-like a little less sugar or applesauce for oil, etc. Not vegetables!!!
    Make sure to invite lots of people to eat more of the cake, and/or send home doggie bags.
    Go out somewhere for dessert-you get that one piece, enjoy it, no leftover cake.

    The most important thing, if you really want to eat cake then enjoy it and don't deny yourself. If it's no big deal then don't force it on yourself. When it's my birthday my first choice is cheesecake. Sometimes I am ok and a healthy version is fine and sometimes cheesecake is all that I have thought about and I want the real deal. I listen to myself and try to only indulge when I really, really want it. I'm not always successful, but giving myself permission to have what I want when I really want it has been very helpful.

    That being said, I'll confess that I've been day dreaming about sitting down with a whole Costco cream filled cake and eating to my hearts desire for about two months now. If that goes on for another month then you know what I'll be having at my next birthday party :)

    Sometimes if I've had trouble sticking to my "plan" then I plan some increased activity to help make up the difference. What says family celebration more than playing together? So many fun options that are calorie burning in disguise.
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    In the same paragraph you said "bad food" AND said not to let food have power over you. HUH? Food is not "bad," eating it in excess is. Moderation, my friend.

    Seriously, labeling food as bad IS giving it power.

    Except for that whole science thing that shows even 40g of refined sugar every day (which is about only 25% of what the average American consumes every day) independently increases diabetes risk by about 18%. So telling the average person you need to cut out more than 75% of their daily sugar intake I think is far from moderation.

    Moderation itself is an ambiguous term defined by society and time. People who use moderation in their diet today would be the worst of the eaters 40 years ago.

    So if you label anger as a bad emotion is that giving it power? Um... No... It's just recognizing it's not the healthiest emotion to experience so you do things to avoid it. Bad foods = foods scientifically shown to have negative health effects. Refined sugar is top on the list. Even moderation has implications of bad. Trying to avoid labeling foods as bad is creating an environment that makes it justifiable to eat unhealthy foods when a person subjective deems fit which is far from optimal for progress and results. Other foods with a lot of scientific evidence behind it having negative health impacts are soy, Omega-6 imbalanced oils, and trans-fats to name a few.

    Care to make that science available to the rest of us (the study) so we can ruminate on it ourselves, such as looking to see if it's a cause=/= causation situation, an obesity related issue or one that's not likely to affect people of a normal weight. I kinda need to see the context before I jump on the demonic refined sugar bandwagon.

    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00125-013-2899-8

    The quoted 18% is after factoring out impact from BMI which combined with sugar consumption had a 52% increase.

    People with normal weight still develop T2DM you know...
    I would think things like family history and whether or not you have metabolic syndrome or blood sugar issues should play into this. A blanket statement EVERYBODY should eat this much just doesn't sit well with me.
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  • da_bears1008
    da_bears1008 Posts: 354
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    a raspberry, vanilla bean, and blueberry cheesecake?
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    There are lots of recipes out there for "better for you" cakes. Example: Diet soda cake http://www.skinnytaste.com/2008/12/diet-soda-cake-35-pts.html

    I've had diet soda cake in several flavors (but made into cupcakes not sheet cake). You would never guess it's low cal. The texture and flavor are awesome and you can use what ever flavor cake mix or diet soda floats your boat.

    Then just get some lower cal ice cream or frozen yogurt. I'd go for the yogurt cause I just think it tastes awesome.

    You don't have to give it up...be brave and try something new. You might be surprised how well you like it. Some of my very best baked goods are secretly healthy and I love to bake. I get asked for the recipes all the time.

    I've actually tried this as well. Couldn't tell the difference between the cake made with diet coke vs. egg and milk and such. I suppose it kind of take out the nutrition but who really cares about that when eating cake? I just want the cake...

    My friend made this and topped it with low fat pudding! Try that!
  • da_bears1008
    da_bears1008 Posts: 354
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    PB Brownie cheesecake?


    P.S. Sorry for the overload... nevermind. not sorry.
  • BombshellPhoenix
    BombshellPhoenix Posts: 1,693 Member
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  • AlliSteff
    AlliSteff Posts: 211 Member
    You can switch out the type of cake/ice cream. I really like the Edy's Slow Churned Yogurt blends. 120 calories and 3.5 grams of fate in a 1/2 cup serving of my flavor of choice.
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    In the same paragraph you said "bad food" AND said not to let food have power over you. HUH? Food is not "bad," eating it in excess is. Moderation, my friend.

    Seriously, labeling food as bad IS giving it power.

    Except for that whole science thing that shows even 40g of refined sugar every day (which is about only 25% of what the average American consumes every day) independently increases diabetes risk by about 18%. So telling the average person you need to cut out more than 75% of their daily sugar intake I think is far from moderation.

    Moderation itself is an ambiguous term defined by society and time. People who use moderation in their diet today would be the worst of the eaters 40 years ago.

    So if you label anger as a bad emotion is that giving it power? Um... No... It's just recognizing it's not the healthiest emotion to experience so you do things to avoid it. Bad foods = foods scientifically shown to have negative health effects. Refined sugar is top on the list. Even moderation has implications of bad. Trying to avoid labeling foods as bad is creating an environment that makes it justifiable to eat unhealthy foods when a person subjective deems fit which is far from optimal for progress and results. Other foods with a lot of scientific evidence behind it having negative health impacts are soy, Omega-6 imbalanced oils, and trans-fats to name a few.

    Care to make that science available to the rest of us (the study) so we can ruminate on it ourselves, such as looking to see if it's a cause=/= causation situation, an obesity related issue or one that's not likely to affect people of a normal weight. I kinda need to see the context before I jump on the demonic refined sugar bandwagon.

    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00125-013-2899-8

    The quoted 18% is after factoring out impact from BMI which combined with sugar consumption had a 52% increase.

    People with normal weight still develop T2DM you know...
    I would think things like family history and whether or not you have metabolic syndrome or blood sugar issues should play into this. A blanket statement EVERYBODY should eat this much just doesn't sit well with me.

    Um I just want to put in a vote for emotional health - which some foods can help - i.e. makes a person happy. Yes, stick with moderation. If you're constantly thinking about every little thing that you eat ever and how much sugar, soy, etc. it has and how it might kill you... are you really focused on enjoying all parts of your life? No matter what, food is always a part of life and does need to be enjoyed (for the majority of people).
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
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  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    I would think things like family history and whether or not you have metabolic syndrome or blood sugar issues should play into this. A blanket statement EVERYBODY should eat this much just doesn't sit well with me.

    It's not a blanket recommendation, it's statistics using the laws of large numbers that shows the more refined sugar you consume the more likely you are to develop T2DM.

    Metabolic syndrome includes insulin resistance so having insulin resistance means you're developing T2DM if you don't have it yet. That's like saying being overweight is a factor if overeating will cause obesity.

    Family history pales in comparison to personal diet. Time and time again it has been shown that genetic predisposition only accounts for increased likelihood if the causal conditions are met, but again when you're using the law of large numbers this averages out between those inclined to develop it and those not inclined.
    So, if you see your blood sugar rising, you should take action. When my fasting went up to 101 (first time in my life it was over 100) I took action, now it is back to normal again. As long as I keep the weight off, I really don't see it as a problem. I don't drink juice or soda, but if I want some sweets I am going to have them as long as they fit my macros...the end.

    ETA: I don't think that study holds a lot of water, self-reporting is not reliable. Family history matters, most of the people I know with type 2 have that variable. I guess if you gain enough weight you can override that, but that doesn't mean you would have developed it otherwise just from eating sugar. ETA: can't agree with the above poster anymore since she emptied her post.
  • zcb94
    zcb94 Posts: 3,678 Member
    Enjoy the cake and ice cream ...lifes too short to not enjoy a treat now and again :-D

    Thank you for making me feel better about my birthday at the end of this month!

    That being said, what if you grabbed a center slice, for not a lot of frosting, and were willing to drink some more milk (soda, water, whatever) to make up for the dryness? My parents are encouraging me to do that on the 25th. Excited to party but not ready to "celebrate" on a diet.:sick: You might like it though.
  • Mangopickle
    Mangopickle Posts: 1,509 Member
    Angel food cake, fresh whipped cream and blueberries/strawberries. 200 -250 per serving

    or
    strawberries dipped in dark chocolate 8 strawberries 260 calories
  • madhound
    madhound Posts: 14
    just have a normal cake its a birthday ffs
  • ge105
    ge105 Posts: 268 Member
    On my last birthday I just had lots of my favorite food...Sushi. I also had mochi covered green tea sorbet :love: But I would totally just eat cake if I liked it more than sushi and mochi covered sorbet. Like everyone said, just work it in and don't make your kids hate you with that watermelon trick. Just plain evils.


    Can someone clue me in though, am I missing something with the Hawaiian rolls? I don't get it :blushing: .
  • sassareno
    sassareno Posts: 59 Member
    I think you may be making the problem too specific. I 100% understand how a birthday can throw you way off track with eating healthy, but it's not just the cake and ice cream. Birthdays are almost always celebrated with some kind of food-related occasion (or multiple food-related occasions!) because eating food together is a way that family and friends can spend time together and enjoy each others company. Plus birthday celebrations can involve a lot of time-- planning a party or event, then the actual event, and then whatever kind of aftermath (clean-up, food coma, hangover, etc). This means you may need a day or two to "recover", and in the pre- and post-birthday celebration activities, you're less likely to spend the time and money on healthier foods.

    A trick that my mother has taught me -- she's lost over 100 lbs over about 5 years -- is to not keep the food IN the house. Go out and get everybody a cupcake and a scoop of ice cream. Bring candles to put them in the cupcakes or pieces of cake so you can still make it special and sing happy birthday (well, you may need to bring the food outside if the establishment doesn't want you to make a flame inside :happy: ).

    Even when I get small cakes, I always end up eating more than I should, just because I have leftovers. And ice cream is my #1 food, so I can't be trusted with that at all.

    So, instead of jumping to the conclusion that you need to replace the cake and ice cream, maybe think more about the whole birthday celebration "experience" and plan in advance how you'll survive the occasion without falling off the wagon.

    (All of that said, I think it's perfectly okay to replace cake and ice cream with something a little healthier if that's what you want to do. To each his or her own!)
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    On my last birthday I just had lots of my favorite food...Sushi. I also had mochi covered green tea sorbet :love: But I would totally just eat cake if I liked it more than sushi and mochi covered sorbet. Like everyone said, just work it in and don't make your kids hate you with that watermelon trick. Just plain evils.


    Can someone clue me in though, am I missing something with the Hawaiian rolls? I don't get it :blushing: .
    I did that on my anniversary.
  • sljohnson1207
    sljohnson1207 Posts: 818 Member
    A pleasant birthday choice that is still very tasty and pretty is a trifle. You can cut the calories down from traditional cake and ice cream considerably, depending on the ingredients you use to make it.

    Sugar free pudding
    Angel food or sponge cake
    Sugar free cool-whip
    Fruits of your choice

    Layer them in clear glass trifle dish.

    Beautiful and delicious.