Why are people so hateful??
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They are a FANTASTIC place to suggest that post-partum depression is the primary cause of SIDS.
Spit out my tea laughing :laugh:0 -
It's not bullying if it's a situation where an adult can walk away without real life consequences.
That is probably the most direct and succient definition of bullying I've ever seen. Well done.
Yeah, being bullied is when you are in a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence and you are bein coerced.
That does not exist here.
Good thing the authorities don't view the definition of bullying as "a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence."
You are probably thinking about the cases of Facebook bullying that resulted in a couple of suicides.
Let me be clear for you. Those were situations in which people purposefully when after people and in ways above and beyond being mean. That is not the same as calling someone stupid, refuting their arguments, etc. To draw a parallel for MFP, a person would need to constantly follow a person around the forums, message them constantly, and circumvent any ignoring/blocking that the "bullied" user put in place.
Which is so totally against the guidelines that it would get your user profile deleted STAT.0 -
The person can remove themselves from a bullying situation online.
Just debating at this point but can't the bully stop as well?
In case you are unaware, bullying in person and over the internet is ILLEGAL. It is taken very seriously by authorities.
ETA: Not talking to you zeroaccess. Talking to the person above you.
Do you think that I am unaware of much or that I am a bully?
But since we're all adults here, there really is no "bullying" and certainly nothing the authorities would take very seriously.
So you think adults can't be bullies? Ok. :laugh:
Correct. When adults do those things it's called harassment or stalking or coercion or extortion or any of a number of other things. But from a legal standpoint, it's not bullying.0 -
I get an urge to start a thread with the request to provide your interpretation of the words:
Meanie
Bully
Hater
But you don't get to accuse anyone unless you post examples from the forums. Wonder how it would develop...
I don't think many people even know what the meaning of these words are.
Just disagreeing with someone, even if it's dangerous, and you get thrown into the lions den, for being a hater and rude.
Can I ask why people keep trying to help others here? I enjoy helping new people, but really the "you suck and are a mean hater for disagreeing with my 500 calorie a day juice cleanse" is really frustrating. Demotivating when it comes to helping new people, and I haven't been trying that long. Some of you have been here slugging through the trenches for a long time. You are articulate, thoughtful and helpful.
I'm probably being overly sensitive (obviously, I am) but what's the point in trying to help others when they backhand you for it?0 -
The person can remove themselves from a bullying situation online.
Just debating at this point but can't the bully stop as well?
In case you are unaware, bullying in person and over the internet is ILLEGAL. It is taken very seriously by authorities.
ETA: Not talking to you zeroaccess. Talking to the person above you.
Do you think that I am unaware of much or that I am a bully?
But since we're all adults here, there really is no "bullying" and certainly nothing the authorities would take very seriously.
So you think adults can't be bullies? Ok. :laugh:
http://www.workplacebullying.org/individuals/problem/definition/
"workplace bullying...Requires consequences for the targeted individual"
Derailing weight loss gurnies!0 -
It's not bullying if it's a situation where an adult can walk away without real life consequences.
That is probably the most direct and succient definition of bullying I've ever seen. Well done.
Yeah, being bullied is when you are in a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence and you are bein coerced.
That does not exist here.
Good thing the authorities don't view the definition of bullying as "a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence."
You are probably thinking about the cases of Facebook bullying that resulted in a couple of suicides.
Let me be clear for you. Those were situations in which people purposefully when after people and in ways above and beyond being mean. That is not the same as calling someone stupid, refuting their arguments, etc. To draw a parallel for MFP, a person would need to constantly follow a person around the forums, message them constantly, and circumvent any ignoring/blocking that the "bullied" user put in place.
Actually, I was talking about bullying in general. Not what happens on Facebook or Twitter or whatever other social media sites people use these days.
And that's not the "bullying" I'm referring to.0 -
It's not bullying if it's a situation where an adult can walk away without real life consequences.
That is probably the most direct and succient definition of bullying I've ever seen. Well done.
Yeah, being bullied is when you are in a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence and you are bein coerced.
That does not exist here.
Good thing the authorities don't view the definition of bullying as "a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence."
According to this site, adults can't be the victim of cyberbullying at all. They can be guilty of cyberharrassment, but only if they "repeatedly harass or threaten someone online."
https://www.wiredsafety.org/subjects/cyberbullying.php
I wouldn't consider any of the exchanges that have been discussed in this thread to fall under that guideline.
Can people be jerks? Sure. Are people on this website regularly "repeatedly harassing and threatening" other members? Not in my opinion. I'm not going to say it's never happened. But it certainly isn't common. And like Pikaknight said, there are moderators here who deal with that sort of thing.0 -
Is this third-person butthurt about the shiritaki noodle "mac and cheese" thread?
:noway: oh for the love of all that's holy....:sick: grossssss0 -
It's not bullying if it's a situation where an adult can walk away without real life consequences.
That is probably the most direct and succient definition of bullying I've ever seen. Well done.
Yeah, being bullied is when you are in a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence and you are bein coerced.
That does not exist here.
Good thing the authorities don't view the definition of bullying as "a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence."
You are probably thinking about the cases of Facebook bullying that resulted in a couple of suicides.
Let me be clear for you. Those were situations in which people purposefully when after people and in ways above and beyond being mean. That is not the same as calling someone stupid, refuting their arguments, etc. To draw a parallel for MFP, a person would need to constantly follow a person around the forums, message them constantly, and circumvent any ignoring/blocking that the "bullied" user put in place.
Actually, I was talking about bullying in general. Not what happens on Facebook or Twitter or whatever other social media sites people use these days.
And that's not the "bullying" I'm referring to.
Then by all means, quit being vague and spit it out so it can be addressed.0 -
It's not bullying if it's a situation where an adult can walk away without real life consequences.
That is probably the most direct and succient definition of bullying I've ever seen. Well done.
Yeah, being bullied is when you are in a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence and you are bein coerced.
That does not exist here.
Good thing the authorities don't view the definition of bullying as "a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence."
You are probably thinking about the cases of Facebook bullying that resulted in a couple of suicides.
Let me be clear for you. Those were situations in which people purposefully when after people and in ways above and beyond being mean. That is not the same as calling someone stupid, refuting their arguments, etc. To draw a parallel for MFP, a person would need to constantly follow a person around the forums, message them constantly, and circumvent any ignoring/blocking that the "bullied" user put in place.
Which is so totally against the guidelines that it would get your user profile deleted STAT.
Apparently not since there's a certain individual who was doing way worse last night…. actually making threats, harassing, and making racist comments to a number of individuals last night and his account is still active.
Major failure on the mods behalf.0 -
Has anyone been "stalked" on the forums before? And if so, how do they stop the person from creating a new account and starting all over again.0
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They are a FANTASTIC place to suggest that post-partum depression is the primary cause of SIDS.
It's the most horrific inappropriate things that make me laugh the most. Hooray for shock value.0 -
Major failure on the mods behalf.
Mods are volunteers. You can't expect excellence from an all volunteer force.0 -
A few people have directly informed me that the advice I've given them has been spot on. Others have done the contrary. As long as I feel there is even one person out there, who might find just what they needed to hear in what I had to say, I will keep posting. I admire those, who have been around much longer, because it takes a certain kind of teflon skin not to be bothered by the insulting insinuations that one is a hater, meanie, or bully.I get an urge to start a thread with the request to provide your interpretation of the words:
Meanie
Bully
Hater
But you don't get to accuse anyone unless you post examples from the forums. Wonder how it would develop...
I don't think many people even know what the meaning of these words are.
Just disagreeing with someone, even if it's dangerous, and you get thrown into the lions den, for being a hater and rude.
Can I ask why people keep trying to help others here? I enjoy helping new people, but really the "you suck and are a mean hater for disagreeing with my 500 calorie a day juice cleanse" is really frustrating. Demotivating when it comes to helping new people, and I haven't been trying that long. Some of you have been here slugging through the trenches for a long time. You are articulate, thoughtful and helpful.
I'm probably being overly sensitive (obviously, I am) but what's the point in trying to help others when they backhand you for it?0 -
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Has anyone been "stalked" on the forums before? And if so, how do they stop the person from creating a new account and starting all over again.
Yes. And they cannot stop them completely.0 -
Well, that's comforting. Good thing I have a ninja cat at home to keep me sane.0
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I get an urge to start a thread with the request to provide your interpretation of the words:
Meanie
Bully
Hater
But you don't get to accuse anyone unless you post examples from the forums. Wonder how it would develop...
I don't think many people even know what the meaning of these words are.
Just disagreeing with someone, even if it's dangerous, and you get thrown into the lions den, for being a hater and rude.
Can I ask why people keep trying to help others here? I enjoy helping new people, but really the "you suck and are a mean hater for disagreeing with my 500 calorie a day juice cleanse" is really frustrating. Demotivating when it comes to helping new people, and I haven't been trying that long. Some of you have been here slugging through the trenches for a long time. You are articulate, thoughtful and helpful.
I'm probably being overly sensitive (obviously, I am) but what's the point in trying to help others when they backhand you for it?
The random PM you get that says, Hey - you made it click for me.
The trick is: don't emotionally engage. Provide information, not advice. To use your example: "Here are the three problems with eating 500 calories." Leave it there. The person either stops doing what they are doing, or continues. Hopefully, your info will ring a bell when they get a bit more experience.0 -
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Yeah pinterest is pretty awesome.
I get lost in there looking for inspiration or sewing tutorials. It's like the internet- but worse!!! and better- because you can keep track- great for artsies peoples!!!
and apparently now rings. (fml)
Not to derail here...but I must confess my girl crush on you as you are one of my favorite posters. What blows my mind is the sport cycling, kick *kitten* belly dancing lifter looking for sewing tips on pintrest
Your awesomeness amazes me. :drinker:0 -
I totally agree with wheird here. Vague talk is bullsh1t if you ask me. Just let it all out or make it water under the bridge; passive-aggressive blargh is so not my favourite way of communicating.It's not bullying if it's a situation where an adult can walk away without real life consequences.
That is probably the most direct and succient definition of bullying I've ever seen. Well done.
Yeah, being bullied is when you are in a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence and you are bein coerced.
That does not exist here.
Good thing the authorities don't view the definition of bullying as "a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence."
You are probably thinking about the cases of Facebook bullying that resulted in a couple of suicides.
Let me be clear for you. Those were situations in which people purposefully when after people and in ways above and beyond being mean. That is not the same as calling someone stupid, refuting their arguments, etc. To draw a parallel for MFP, a person would need to constantly follow a person around the forums, message them constantly, and circumvent any ignoring/blocking that the "bullied" user put in place.
Actually, I was talking about bullying in general. Not what happens on Facebook or Twitter or whatever other social media sites people use these days.
And that's not the "bullying" I'm referring to.
Then by all means, quit being vague and spit it out so it can be addressed.0 -
Someone asked what a hater was.
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A few people have directly informed me that the advice I've given them has been spot on. Others have done the contrary. As long as I feel there is even one person out there, who might find just what they needed to hear in what I had to say, I will keep posting. I admire those, who have been around much longer, because it takes a certain kind of teflon skin not to be bothered by the insulting insinuations that one is a hater, meanie, or bully.I get an urge to start a thread with the request to provide your interpretation of the words:
Meanie
Bully
Hater
But you don't get to accuse anyone unless you post examples from the forums. Wonder how it would develop...
I don't think many people even know what the meaning of these words are.
Just disagreeing with someone, even if it's dangerous, and you get thrown into the lions den, for being a hater and rude.
Can I ask why people keep trying to help others here? I enjoy helping new people, but really the "you suck and are a mean hater for disagreeing with my 500 calorie a day juice cleanse" is really frustrating. Demotivating when it comes to helping new people, and I haven't been trying that long. Some of you have been here slugging through the trenches for a long time. You are articulate, thoughtful and helpful.
I'm probably being overly sensitive (obviously, I am) but what's the point in trying to help others when they backhand you for it?
I actually did stop helping people.0 -
People are vicious, but everyone has right to their own opinions. Unfortunately some of them have diarrhea of the mouth (fingers for typing) and can't control themselves. And you are absolutely right; MFP is a place for support and encouragement. Some people don"t get that
There is a difference between a desire for something to be true and something being designed for that purpose.
I desire that the world be a place for support and encouragement but that doesn't mean it was designed to be so. Same goes for MFP.
Frankly all MFP is is a rather robust free online tool for tracking calories merged to a blank wall on which you can write your thoughts. Anything else is just you or anyone else projecting their wishes for what they want it to be.
It is not MFPs purpose to support you anymore than it is my personal responsibility to support you. It may be a positive thing when it happens but that is all.0 -
Can I ask why people keep trying to help others here?
I don't know. Sometimes I am at point of just letting people do what they want and let them figure it out. It's taken me several times to lose weight and I finally found something that works and all because of the "meanies". :ohwell:0 -
They are a FANTASTIC place to suggest that post-partum depression is the primary cause of SIDS.
It's the most horrific inappropriate things that make me laugh the most. Hooray for shock value.
Yeah, that one is pretty awesome.0 -
It's not bullying if it's a situation where an adult can walk away without real life consequences.
That is probably the most direct and succient definition of bullying I've ever seen. Well done.
Yeah, being bullied is when you are in a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence and you are bein coerced.
That does not exist here.
Good thing the authorities don't view the definition of bullying as "a situation you cannot walk away from without consequence."
You are probably thinking about the cases of Facebook bullying that resulted in a couple of suicides.
Let me be clear for you. Those were situations in which people purposefully when after people and in ways above and beyond being mean. That is not the same as calling someone stupid, refuting their arguments, etc. To draw a parallel for MFP, a person would need to constantly follow a person around the forums, message them constantly, and circumvent any ignoring/blocking that the "bullied" user put in place.
Actually, I was talking about bullying in general. Not what happens on Facebook or Twitter or whatever other social media sites people use these days.
And that's not the "bullying" I'm referring to.
Ok. I've provided two examples of official definitions. Can you please describe what the "authorities" think is bullying and apply it to what happens on MFP?0 -
A few people have directly informed me that the advice I've given them has been spot on. Others have done the contrary. As long as I feel there is even one person out there, who might find just what they needed to hear in what I had to say, I will keep posting. I admire those, who have been around much longer, because it takes a certain kind of teflon skin not to be bothered by the insulting insinuations that one is a hater, meanie, or bully.I get an urge to start a thread with the request to provide your interpretation of the words:
Meanie
Bully
Hater
But you don't get to accuse anyone unless you post examples from the forums. Wonder how it would develop...
I don't think many people even know what the meaning of these words are.
Just disagreeing with someone, even if it's dangerous, and you get thrown into the lions den, for being a hater and rude.
Can I ask why people keep trying to help others here? I enjoy helping new people, but really the "you suck and are a mean hater for disagreeing with my 500 calorie a day juice cleanse" is really frustrating. Demotivating when it comes to helping new people, and I haven't been trying that long. Some of you have been here slugging through the trenches for a long time. You are articulate, thoughtful and helpful.
I'm probably being overly sensitive (obviously, I am) but what's the point in trying to help others when they backhand you for it?
Thank-you. I agree, the appreciative people are worth it. I have so much respect for those who find it in them to stick around and help out. I have learned so much from them. Plus I have learned to love me some kitteh gifs.
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heh.
"Nut me, Goreo."
It's like a taunt against a boss character in Mortal Kombat 18.0 -
I get an urge to start a thread with the request to provide your interpretation of the words:
Meanie
Bully
Hater
But you don't get to accuse anyone unless you post examples from the forums. Wonder how it would develop...
I don't think many people even know what the meaning of these words are.
Just disagreeing with someone, even if it's dangerous, and you get thrown into the lions den, for being a hater and rude.
Can I ask why people keep trying to help others here? I enjoy helping new people, but really the "you suck and are a mean hater for disagreeing with my 500 calorie a day juice cleanse" is really frustrating. Demotivating when it comes to helping new people, and I haven't been trying that long. Some of you have been here slugging through the trenches for a long time. You are articulate, thoughtful and helpful.
I'm probably being overly sensitive (obviously, I am) but what's the point in trying to help others when they backhand you for it?
The random PM you get that says, Hey - you made it click for me.
The trick is: don't emotionally engage. Provide information, not advice. To use your example: "Here are the three problems with eating 500 calories." Leave it there. The person either stops doing what they are doing, or continues. Hopefully, your info will ring a bell when they get a bit more experience.
Thank-you for this. 0 -
Can I ask why people keep trying to help others here?
I don't know. Sometimes I am at point of just letting people do what they want and let them figure it out. It's taken me several times to lose weight and I finally found something that works and all because of the "meanies". :ohwell:
One mistake people make is that they provide advice on a thread and want the person to stop arguing and accept the advice right then.
Even when it finally clicks, it usually takes a minimum of three days. A lot of times it'll take longer.
Just drop a seed. If it's the right seed for that person, it'll grow without any more help.0
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