Drunk rant about women
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I would never use "unethical" to describe someone wearing spanx.0
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Meh... :indifferent: ... Women are going to dress however they want. Men are going to chase the ones they like. We all have different tastes. To each their own.
I thought my wife was gorgeous the day I met her in college and she was wearing normal jeans, t shirt, and sneakers. Neither of which was form fitting. And I don't think she had ay make-up on... But then again I am lucky that my wife knows there are occasions to dress up and when she does
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Women typically wear these types of things to because we have been told over and over again that it makes them attractive. I've heard this argument from my male friends, but then they all go out with the glamazon because they "like a woman who takes care of herself".
If men really want to break this trend, then they need to start paying more attention to the natural woman. The one not wearing makeup, not with a just-from-the-salon hairstyle, wearing a modest outfit and wearing flats. They are there at the clubs and bars, but they are usually not surrounded by a bunch of men.
Not all men do this. The men you surround yourself with do.
Stop going to clubs and complaining about the guys you find there. It's like being at the zoo and being surprised by the smell.
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Women typically wear these types of things to because we have been told over and over again that it makes them attractive. I've heard this argument from my male friends, but then they all go out with the glamazon because they "like a woman who takes care of herself".
If men really want to break this trend, then they need to start paying more attention to the natural woman. The one not wearing makeup, not with a just-from-the-salon hairstyle, wearing a modest outfit and wearing flats. They are there at the clubs and bars, but they are usually not surrounded by a bunch of men.
Not all men do this. The men you surround yourself with do.
Stop going to clubs and complaining about the guys you find there. It's like being at the zoo and being surprised by the smell.
Agree!
This mentality is wrong. You can't tell women where they are and are not allowed to go. The problem is not the fault of women so women are not responsible for changing their behavior. Asking women to stop going to clubs if they don't like how men treat them there is blaming the victim.0 -
This mentality is wrong. You can't tell women where they are and are not allowed to go. The problem is not the fault of women so women are not responsible for changing their behavior. Asking women to stop going to clubs if they don't like how men treat them there is blaming the victim.
I don't think they're saying that she can't go to clubs. Just that she shouldn't complain about the kinds of men she meets there. Certain people partake in certain types of activities. People in clubs act differently towards others than, say, people in libraries.
This isn't victim blaming as there is no victim in this scenario.1 -
My morning routine. shower, shave and brush my teeth. Then I get dressed (w a 'normal' bra...) comb my hair and add gel with my fingers to keep the uncontrollable thick, curly, waves controlled. Throw on my glasses and go... no make up, never have died my hair. The only other thing I do is get a pedicure every 8-12 weeks.
I remember years (I was in my 20's) ago I was a member of an all woman sales team and they were getting annual holiday photo done, they all had either been to the salon or were having this makeup party in the office before hand. I was working. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM offered me some form of makeup. "Just a little blush?", "What about some lipstick?" "Really, you don't want ANY makeup??" "Are you SURE???" - I started to think maybe they thought I was going to ruin the photo with my presence sans makeup.. it was annoying as %&*$!!!! In the end the photo was taken with me W/O makeup and you know what the camera didn't explode! :laugh:
Women are hard enough on other women. it's nice to see that some men (some that responded here) are okay with a woman sans makeup! I know my man loves the way I look and tells me all the time that he is glad I don't wear it and that I don't need it.0 -
Women typically wear these types of things to because we have been told over and over again that it makes them attractive. I've heard this argument from my male friends, but then they all go out with the glamazon because they "like a woman who takes care of herself".
If men really want to break this trend, then they need to start paying more attention to the natural woman. The one not wearing makeup, not with a just-from-the-salon hairstyle, wearing a modest outfit and wearing flats. They are there at the clubs and bars, but they are usually not surrounded by a bunch of men.
Not all men do this. The men you surround yourself with do.
Stop going to clubs and complaining about the guys you find there. It's like being at the zoo and being surprised by the smell.
Agree!
This mentality is wrong. You can't tell women where they are and are not allowed to go. The problem is not the fault of women so women are not responsible for changing their behavior. Asking women to stop going to clubs if they don't like how men treat them there is blaming the victim.
Nope. It's about the type of guy you're likely to find. A guy who hits on you in a club is usually just trying to find a partner before last call. You're going to meet somebody completely different if you take up flying airplanes as a hobby, for instance. Or hang out with your kid at the park.0 -
Seriously. You guys need to live in the gray areas.
Does make-up cover up things that a woman feels self conscious about? probably. Does make-up = untrustworthy liars? Not exactly.
What women do with make-up is no different than a man being on his best behavior. He comes to the door to pick her up. Opens the car door. Uses utensils. Refrains from releasing gas at the table. Why? Because he wants to project the best image he can when dating starts. Both people understand that this is the top layer of the person you are getting to know. And the more you get to know him/her the more layers you see. This is not a lie people tell each other, because the woman in makeup and heels and the man in a nice suit and fresh haircut ARE parts of those people. They are what they feel are the best parts.1 -
I wear makeup and dress how I do because I love it
"oh will this attract people" never comes into my mind when I am getting ready
its all about me me me me me me and how I feel comfortable and happy
that being said I also have no problem leaving the house in zero makeup looking really ragged because who cares0 -
I wear makeup and dress how I do because I love it
"oh will this attract people" never comes into my mind when I am getting ready
its all about me me me me me me and how I feel comfortable and happy
that being said I also have no problem leaving the house in zero makeup looking really ragged because who cares
And that is why I am your (not very secret) admirer!0 -
I wear makeup and dress how I do because I love it
"oh will this attract people" never comes into my mind when I am getting ready
its all about me me me me me me and how I feel comfortable and happy
that being said I also have no problem leaving the house in zero makeup looking really ragged because who cares
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Seriously. You guys need to live in the gray areas.
Does make-up cover up things that a woman feels self conscious about? probably. Does make-up = untrustworthy liars? Not exactly.
What women do with make-up is no different than a man being on his best behavior. He comes to the door to pick her up. Opens the car door. Uses utensils. Refrains from releasing gas at the table. Why? Because he wants to project the best image he can when dating starts. Both people understand that this is the top layer of the person you are getting to know. And the more you get to know him/her the more layers you see. This is not a lie people tell each other, because the woman in makeup and heels and the man in a nice suit and fresh haircut ARE parts of those people. They are what they feel are the best parts.
I agree with this view.0 -
Exactly
This mentality is wrong. You can't tell women where they are and are not allowed to go. The problem is not the fault of women so women are not responsible for changing their behavior. Asking women to stop going to clubs if they don't like how men treat them there is blaming the victim.
I don't think they're saying that she can't go to clubs. Just that she shouldn't complain about the kinds of men she meets there. Certain people partake in certain types of activities. People in clubs act differently towards others than, say, people in libraries.
This isn't victim blaming as there is no victim in this scenario.0 -
i just got excited cause i'm drunk and wanted to come rant about women...soooo not what i expected the post to be about. Spanx and makeup is the least of my worries when it comes to women that are shady lol!!!0
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But the sad thing is if a woman is only considered "meh" without those things, she is less like to be considered/acknowledged. So it seems like guys complain about women being "liars" about that stuff but then won't give us the time of day without it. It's a no-win, isn't it? I may as well wear the stuff I like at that point and just be happy with how I look.
Also some of those things are really obvious. Wearing make-up? Yep, he can see it. Wear high heals, yep, he can see it. Wearing a bra? Yep he can tell. The only less visible one is spanx. And if he gets to see that, he is probably feeling like a lucky fellow.
Conversely, man wearing girdle? Nope, she can't see it. Convincing fake beard? Nope, she can't tell. Platform shoes? lol I don't think he'd be taken seriously.
Besides, the only way to not lie about our appearance is to walk around naked constantly, being sure not to suck in our guts. Until everyone starts doing that (men and women alike), why would it be lying to wear a bra/ make up?
And I'm totally not up for a Whole Nude World. We'd all die in the winter.0 -
Jenna marbles made an awesome video that would be a great response to this. I think it was a video about pushing your boobs up and covering them in glitter.0
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OMG, the metal image is killing me! :laugh:I tuck a sock in my pants, to feel better about myself. I also tell women I'm a millionaire. I do these things for me, to feel better about myself as a person. If a woman thinks I'm being dishonest that's on her, I'm doing this for me. *hair flip*
Ooh Sock in the pants! That's a good one!
Ladies, how do we feel about this? I think it's the male equivalent to a push up bra.
I agree. If a guy had a sock in his pants and looked huge, then we made it home and his sock fell out of his boxers, I would be surprised.1 -
There's a difference between wearing a push up bra so the girls aren't hanging down by your belly button combined with a little bit of makeup, and caking your face in enough professional makeup to make you look like a completely different person while wearing a corset to make your waist 26 inches....
I view shaving our legs and putting on a little makeup as equal with men shaving their beards or waxing their chests. We all know it's know how they are naturally, but it's not enough to quantify as lying.0 -
I wear makeup and dress how I do because I love it
"oh will this attract people" never comes into my mind when I am getting ready
its all about me me me me me me and how I feel comfortable and happy
that being said I also have no problem leaving the house in zero makeup looking really ragged because who cares
on point.
Ditto. I like to wear cute clothes. I like to wear makeup. But I'm not concerned about someone seeing me au naturale.0 -
There's a difference between wearing a push up bra so the girls aren't hanging down by your belly button combined with a little bit of makeup, and caking your face in enough professional makeup to make you look like a completely different person while wearing a corset to make your waist 26 inches....
I view shaving our legs and putting on a little makeup as equal with men shaving their beards or waxing their chests. We all know it's know how they are naturally, but it's not enough to quantify as lying.
If he waxes his chest I'm so outta there!0 -
I don't change my hair color, wear heels, change my breast shape, wear makeup or do anything to my hair.
Does that make me trustworthy? Hell no.0 -
I think Chris Rock covered this topic pretty well. Shouldn't be hard to find with that there interwebz and YouTube stuff.1
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Not what I thought, but,
I do what I want to feel good about myself.
dont care if ya like it or not, moving on0 -
If I doll myself up, it's with very minimal make-up. I wear what I would wear to an outing, usually artsy or loud clothes, and some rainbow DC shoes. Any hair dying is done for my own self image. I may shave or tweeze my eyebrows, I may not.
I was lucky enough to find a guy who doesn't even care about not being able to shave my legs because of pregnancy, or about my stretch marks. But I still enjoy getting pretty for him. (Dying my hair black as we speak)!0 -
There's a drastic difference between wearing a push up bra and cheating lol. I mean it's about wanting to look good and expressing yourself...I know plenty of guys that wear flattering clothes to hide things. I've even come across a few that wear concealer/foundation. And it's pretty obvious when women wear heels, push up bras, makeup, or whatever else. So if you're (general you) honestly expecting perfection when it doesn't exist, then it's your own fault for being disappointed.0
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Human female's sometimes adorn themselves as part of their sexual expression. Some men enjoy it a lot.0
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Funny0
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He should just ask out a woman who doesn't fix up, there are plenty of women who prefer the natural look...problem solved.0
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