MY RESONSE TO -"SO YOU WANT A NICE STOMACH"
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I have had three kids. With my first I gained about 65 lbs, second 70 and third 85 lbs. I call BS. My stomach is not perfect, but you can achieve amazing things if you work hard enough. I am not ashamed to wear a bikini and show my stretch marks or my less than perfect abs. I love my body and what it is capable of doing.0
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Ahem.... SURGERY is how it is spelled. SURGERY. SURGURY is not a word.
Ok, carry on.0 -
I have kids, I don't think it's going to stop me from having ripped abs some day. (hopefully soon)0
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I have stretch marks. I don't have extra skin, though.I KNOW I SAID THIS AT THE END OF THE ABOVE THREAD BUT IT SHOULD BE REPEATED SO WOMEN WITH CHILDREN DO NOT FEEL BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES OR HAVE UNREAL EXPECTATIONS, AND TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT HAD KIDDIES KUDOS TO YOU, I USED TO HAVE RIPPED ABS BEFORE I HAD KIDS ENJOY IT WHILE IT LASTS!! LOL....I don't care how skinny you get, how much weight you lose, or how many sit-ups or training you do, how much self discipline, self will you have, if you have had babies, especially 2-3+ there's no way you will have a ripped stomach EVER AGAIN. Although it can be IMPROVED WITH EXERCISE AND MOSTLY IMPROVED BY SURGURY. There will always be that extra skin from STRETCHING.....but for me I am PROUD AND OF MY STRETCH MARKS those are my BATTLE SCARS and I would not have my BEAUTIFUL SONS WITHOUT THEM
My tummy isn't "ripped," but that has nothing to do with having had a baby ...0 -
To give the OP the benefit of the doubt her intentions may have been good.
Sometimes we are subjected to unrealistic images of perfection which we are supposed to aspire to, which in reality, may not be practically achievable for many people although in theory it maybe. I guess women are disproportionately the target of such images (although men are being subjected to this more and more.)
It is true that pregnancy may cause a woman to permanently lose the elasticity of her skin around her stomach and little short of surgery can correct that. Therefore women feeling anxiety over what they cannot truly change is not a good thing. That is not a given however.
I guess a better focus would be rather than aspiring to achieve a certain look it is better to aspire to improve your health, happiness and well being within the practical limitations your life presents to you.
Live long and prosper my friends.
The issue with MFP is that you soon learn that those goals aren't theoretically possible. They've been achieved by women who have two or more of the following attributes
- your age
- came here morbidly obese after a lifelong struggle with weight
- has kids
- is a single parent/parents alone much of the year
- works a 50 hour week
- has PCOS
- has chronic pain
- has a condition that renders them sedentary for weeks or months at a time
Ka-boosh!
Hear that? That was the sound of my excuses blowing up.
I carry 25% body fat and look just normal because I choose to. Not because my life doesn't allow me to be more muscular or slimmer.0 -
I change my profile pic for the OP.
My story - I've never been overweight, but I have given birth to 3 children, 2 of whom are twins. My first pregnancy I gained 60 pounds and had a 9lb 8oz baby. My twins were full term and 6lb 7oz and 6lb 15oz. I was enormous!!! I know I was blessed with good genetics in that I don't have any stretch marks and only the tiniest little bit of "twin" skin that no one notices but me. But, I also work hard in the gym and eat right. Oh, and I'm 43 years old.
Basically, you can have children and have a nice stomach - however you define "nice".0 -
To give the OP the benefit of the doubt her intentions may have been good.
Sometimes we are subjected to unrealistic images of perfection which we are supposed to aspire to, which in reality, may not be practically achievable for many people although in theory it maybe. I guess women are disproportionately the target of such images (although men are being subjected to this more and more.)
It is true that pregnancy may cause a woman to permanently lose the elasticity of her skin around her stomach and little short of surgery can correct that. Therefore women feeling anxiety over what they cannot truly change is not a good thing. That is not a given however.
I guess a better focus would be rather than aspiring to achieve a certain look it is better to aspire to improve your health, happiness and well being within the practical limitations your life presents to you.
Live long and prosper my friends.
The issue with MFP is that you soon learn that those goals aren't theoretically possible. They've been achieved by women who have two or more of the following attributes
- your age
- came here morbidly obese after a lifelong struggle with weight
- has kids
- is a single parent/parents alone much of the year
- works a 50 hour week
- has PCOS
- has chronic pain
- has a condition that renders them sedentary for weeks or months at a time
Ka-boosh!
Hear that? That was the sound of my excuses blowing up.
I carry 25% body fat and look just normal because I choose to. Not because my life doesn't allow me to be more muscular or slimmer.
Sure, I understand that and that is terrific.
That does not change the fact that no amount of exercise or good diet is going to overcome permanent loss of skin elasticity or stretch marks. Neither does it factor in the genetic structure of a person's abdominal muscles or their psychological suitability for trying to achieve a certain "look".0 -
I had a 30kg food baby, now my abs look pretty good, does that count?
Sorry couldn't resist, no offence intended.0 -
and I'm no gross blob, I'm a hottie if I say so myself...for 43 with three grown kids lol.... still, im just saying I did not think my abs could ever go back to what they were before kiddies.....tell me how to post a pic on here and I will show ya'll a before and after pic of my abs...im brave
Stick is not "hottie"
Not cool.0 -
To give the OP the benefit of the doubt her intentions may have been good.
Sometimes we are subjected to unrealistic images of perfection which we are supposed to aspire to, which in reality, may not be practically achievable for many people although in theory it maybe. I guess women are disproportionately the target of such images (although men are being subjected to this more and more.)
It is true that pregnancy may cause a woman to permanently lose the elasticity of her skin around her stomach and little short of surgery can correct that. Therefore women feeling anxiety over what they cannot truly change is not a good thing. That is not a given however.
I guess a better focus would be rather than aspiring to achieve a certain look it is better to aspire to improve your health, happiness and well being within the practical limitations your life presents to you.
Live long and prosper my friends.
The issue with MFP is that you soon learn that those goals aren't theoretically possible. They've been achieved by women who have two or more of the following attributes
- your age
- came here morbidly obese after a lifelong struggle with weight
- has kids
- is a single parent/parents alone much of the year
- works a 50 hour week
- has PCOS
- has chronic pain
- has a condition that renders them sedentary for weeks or months at a time
Ka-boosh!
Hear that? That was the sound of my excuses blowing up.
I carry 25% body fat and look just normal because I choose to. Not because my life doesn't allow me to be more muscular or slimmer.
Sure, I understand that and that is terrific.
That does not change the fact that no amount of exercise or good diet is going to overcome permanent loss of skin elasticity or stretch marks. Neither does it factor in the genetic structure of a person's abdominal muscles or their psychological suitability for trying to achieve a certain "look".
Probably not every woman in the world will be able to achieve physical perfection. But to say that NO WOMAN who has ever had kids will be able to get there is ridiculous.0 -
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1381931-interviewing-mfp-legends-mireygal76
MireyGal76 has kids
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/987513-lifting-is-the-most-horrible-thing-to-a-woman-since-twiggy
Barbellarella_ has kids
Parvati (I believe) has kids
And the author of that thread you are referring to has kids (I believe)
I can't believe it took 4 pages to point out how banging Mirey's body is after three kids! OP - seriously, check out MireyGal76.0 -
I change my profile pic for the OP.
My story - I've never been overweight, but I have given birth to 3 children, 2 of whom are twins. My first pregnancy I gained 60 pounds and had a 9lb 8oz baby. My twins were full term and 6lb 7oz and 6lb 15oz. I was enormous!!! I know I was blessed with good genetics in that I don't have any stretch marks and only the tiniest little bit of "twin" skin that no one notices but me. But, I also work hard in the gym and eat right. Oh, and I'm 43 years old.
Basically, you can have children and have a nice stomach - however you define "nice".
Damn. Nice job!0 -
Probably not every woman in the world will be able to achieve physical perfection. But to say that NO WOMAN who has ever had kids will be able to get there is ridiculous.
Sure, that's fair enough.0 -
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I haven't even had kids but you can call my stomach Katrina because it's a disaster. I've got strong cheek bones though and a pretty hefty set of manbrows. Come and get it ladies!
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Correction I gained 80lbs with all my pregnancys and yes it was due toCan I point out that you complaining about unrealistic stomach ideals but you gained 80lbs during 1 pregnancy and expect to have super tight abs? Yeah I agree with you that probably won't ever happen but frankly kinda your fault for gaining that much weight unless you had some sort of medical condition that caused it.
Word of advice for you my dear, spend your mental and physical energy on something more productive than being jealous/complaining about someone else and your life will probably be far happier.
Definition of Toxemia. Toxemia: A condition in pregnancy, also known as pre-eclampsia (or preeclampsia) characterized by abrupt hypertension (a sharp rise in blood pressure), albuminuria (leakage of large amounts of the protein albumin into the urine) and edema (swelling) of the hands, feet, and face.
and IF I was jealous and trying to be like others don't you think I would be running out to get SURGURY? You have totally judged me wrong, and if my words caused that, my bad. My goal is to be as beautiful on the INSIDE as on the outside. That is what is IMPORTANT TO ME. God Bless
Surgery* You may not want to get it, but you can certainly learn to spell it0 -
I promise I'm not a stalker. Okay I kind of am, but here's a link to usmcmp's story that she posted:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/971636-my-story-of-sweet-revenge-picsShe also made a blog post. That is her real stomach. And she is awesome. Please stop yelling.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/usmcmp/view/cellulite-stretch-marks-and-loose-skin-685055
:laugh: Looks like I don't even need to come in and post all of this.
As the woman who posted the nice stomach thread it was all about losing belly fat. We often see people come in wanting to target belly fat, so I made that post to try to help. I was 200 pounds when I got pregnant with each of my children and I reached 265 pounds at the end of my second pregnancy. I have loose skin and stretch marks. I will probably never have surgery to remove the skin because frankly I'm cheap. Not everyone will be lucky enough to be able to tuck their skin in like I can, but they can still lose the belly fat.
ETA: It isn't genetics. My entire family is obese.
I am so glad I read this today...you give me hope. I was 280 at the end of my second pregnancy, now sitting at about 250. My belly used to be relatively flat but now is so far from it...and most of my family is obese as well. Sometimes it feels hopeless. But it's not!! Thank you. 0 -
I'm not a mom but this thread gives me hope that one day too I will have abs.0
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I have kids, I don't think it's going to stop me from having ripped abs some day. (hopefully soon)
You already do! Fantastic abs as a matter of fact. Mine are going to look like yours when I grow up!0 -
Surgury was the only thing that I felt was necessary enough to comment on0
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No I am PROUD of my body especially when I gained 75 lbs with all pregnancys and now I am 113 lbs. I just don't like people giving women that have had babies unreal expectations about their stomachs is all. If I was that upset I would go run out and get PLASTIC SURGURY I certainly have the money too but I have not! And I would like to know HOW many pregnancies the author has had? I have had four. I'm not bashing you author but it is hard to believe that picture is your real stomach if you have had multiple pregnancies, maybe If you have had one, it would be easier to believe. The stand point I am coming from is I have DR's in my family and they have told me it is MEDICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for a womens stomach/the muscles to go back to what they were before pregnancy because they get too stretched and injured. So that is why I made my post, understand? and if that is your real stomach author than I quess I will read your post more carefully so I can tell my Dr's in my family about what you say, did not mean to sound bashing.
<- This belly has held and nurtured a child in it. Its my real tummy, no surgery, gained by nothing more than hard work and a healthy bit of lucky genetics. Here's to me for defying "impossibilities". Just because it's not in your realm of understanding does not mean its impossible.
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To give the OP the benefit of the doubt her intentions may have been good.
Sometimes we are subjected to unrealistic images of perfection which we are supposed to aspire to, which in reality, may not be practically achievable for many people although in theory it maybe. I guess women are disproportionately the target of such images (although men are being subjected to this more and more.)
It is true that pregnancy may cause a woman to permanently lose the elasticity of her skin around her stomach and little short of surgery can correct that. Therefore women feeling anxiety over what they cannot truly change is not a good thing. That is not a given however.
I guess a better focus would be rather than aspiring to achieve a certain look it is better to aspire to improve your health, happiness and well being within the practical limitations your life presents to you.
Live long and prosper my friends.
The issue with MFP is that you soon learn that those goals aren't theoretically possible. They've been achieved by women who have two or more of the following attributes
- your age
- came here morbidly obese after a lifelong struggle with weight
- has kids
- is a single parent/parents alone much of the year
- works a 50 hour week
- has PCOS
- has chronic pain
- has a condition that renders them sedentary for weeks or months at a time
Ka-boosh!
Hear that? That was the sound of my excuses blowing up.
I carry 25% body fat and look just normal because I choose to. Not because my life doesn't allow me to be more muscular or slimmer.
Sure, I understand that and that is terrific.
That does not change the fact that no amount of exercise or good diet is going to overcome permanent loss of skin elasticity or stretch marks. Neither does it factor in the genetic structure of a person's abdominal muscles or their psychological suitability for trying to achieve a certain "look".
Genetics are a real factor that get used as an excuse more often than not.
Honestly, as much as I hate mass media and the ridiculous images that we are inundated with, there are a wide variety of "looks" even among Hollywood actresses. There isn't and has never been one unobtainable look that we are all supposed to aspire to. You can pick and choose your goal body based on what you have to work with: I've always been more of a Martine Beswick than a Rachel Welch, for instance. I aspire to Amber at GoKaleo.com
In the thread we are referring to, USMCMP wasn't presenting some sort of theoretical ideal. She described what she did - stretch marks and all. And she is a a bikini competitor.
Given the huge number of women on this very site who have had kids, been fat and gotten into fabulous shape afterward, I'd reserve judgement and see what you CAN do rather than limiting your goals based on what you think you are stuck with given your history.0 -
I haven't even had kids but you can call my stomach Katrina because it's a disaster. I've got strong cheek bones though and a pretty hefty set of manbrows. Come and get it ladies!
Swooning.
Cool thread. Needs more GIFS.0 -
To give the OP the benefit of the doubt her intentions may have been good.
Sometimes we are subjected to unrealistic images of perfection which we are supposed to aspire to, which in reality, may not be practically achievable for many people although in theory it maybe. I guess women are disproportionately the target of such images (although men are being subjected to this more and more.)
It is true that pregnancy may cause a woman to permanently lose the elasticity of her skin around her stomach and little short of surgery can correct that. Therefore women feeling anxiety over what they cannot truly change is not a good thing. That is not a given however.
I guess a better focus would be rather than aspiring to achieve a certain look it is better to aspire to improve your health, happiness and well being within the practical limitations your life presents to you.
Live long and prosper my friends.
The issue with MFP is that you soon learn that those goals aren't theoretically possible. They've been achieved by women who have two or more of the following attributes
- your age
- came here morbidly obese after a lifelong struggle with weight
- has kids
- is a single parent/parents alone much of the year
- works a 50 hour week
- has PCOS
- has chronic pain
- has a condition that renders them sedentary for weeks or months at a time
Ka-boosh!
Hear that? That was the sound of my excuses blowing up.
I carry 25% body fat and look just normal because I choose to. Not because my life doesn't allow me to be more muscular or slimmer.
Sure, I understand that and that is terrific.
That does not change the fact that no amount of exercise or good diet is going to overcome permanent loss of skin elasticity or stretch marks. Neither does it factor in the genetic structure of a person's abdominal muscles or their psychological suitability for trying to achieve a certain "look".
Genetics are a real factor that get used as an excuse more often than not.
Honestly, as much as I hate mass media and the ridiculous images that we are inundated with, there are a wide variety of "looks" even among Hollywood actresses. There isn't and has never been one unobtainable look that we are all supposed to aspire to. You can pick and choose your goal body based on what you have to work with: I've always been more of a Martine Beswick than a Rachel Welch, for instance. I aspire to Amber at GoKaleo.com
In the thread we are referring to, USMCMP wasn't presenting some sort of theoretical ideal. She described what she did - stretch marks and all. And she is a a bikini competitor.
Given the huge number of women on this very site who have had kids, been fat and gotten into fabulous shape afterward, I'd reserve judgement and see what you CAN do rather than limiting your goals based on what you think you are stuck with given your history.
Shes not a bikini competitor.
Shes a physique competitor.
Shes made it clear she won't prance in heels across the stage (though there is nothing wrong if thats what you want to do - its just not for her). This is from a convo she and I had about competing since I'm toying with a bikini comp.0 -
To give the OP the benefit of the doubt her intentions may have been good.
Sometimes we are subjected to unrealistic images of perfection which we are supposed to aspire to, which in reality, may not be practically achievable for many people although in theory it maybe. I guess women are disproportionately the target of such images (although men are being subjected to this more and more.)
It is true that pregnancy may cause a woman to permanently lose the elasticity of her skin around her stomach and little short of surgery can correct that. Therefore women feeling anxiety over what they cannot truly change is not a good thing. That is not a given however.
I guess a better focus would be rather than aspiring to achieve a certain look it is better to aspire to improve your health, happiness and well being within the practical limitations your life presents to you.
Live long and prosper my friends.
The issue with MFP is that you soon learn that those goals aren't theoretically possible. They've been achieved by women who have two or more of the following attributes
- your age
- came here morbidly obese after a lifelong struggle with weight
- has kids
- is a single parent/parents alone much of the year
- works a 50 hour week
- has PCOS
- has chronic pain
- has a condition that renders them sedentary for weeks or months at a time
Ka-boosh!
Hear that? That was the sound of my excuses blowing up.
I carry 25% body fat and look just normal because I choose to. Not because my life doesn't allow me to be more muscular or slimmer.
Sure, I understand that and that is terrific.
That does not change the fact that no amount of exercise or good diet is going to overcome permanent loss of skin elasticity or stretch marks. Neither does it factor in the genetic structure of a person's abdominal muscles or their psychological suitability for trying to achieve a certain "look".
Genetics are a real factor that get used as an excuse more often than not.
Honestly, as much as I hate mass media and the ridiculous images that we are inundated with, there are a wide variety of "looks" even among Hollywood actresses. There isn't and has never been one unobtainable look that we are all supposed to aspire to. You can pick and choose your goal body based on what you have to work with: I've always been more of a Martine Beswick than a Rachel Welch, for instance. I aspire to Amber at GoKaleo.com
In the thread we are referring to, USMCMP wasn't presenting some sort of theoretical ideal. She described what she did - stretch marks and all. And she is a a bikini competitor.
Given the huge number of women on this very site who have had kids, been fat and gotten into fabulous shape afterward, I'd reserve judgement and see what you CAN do rather than limiting your goals based on what you think you are stuck with given your history.
Shes not a bikini competitor.
Shes a physique competitor.
Shes made it clear she won't prance in heels across the stage (though there is nothing wrong if thats what you want to do - its just not for her). This is from a convo she and I had about competing since I'm toying with a bikini comp.
Oooh. My bad. I thought it was surprising that she would choose bikini. I didn't know there was a difference. Consider me schooled.0 -
i think this all depends on our individual body makeup. I was 280, then lost weight down to lowest 132. I got pregnant, and now I am 181. I had loose skin and imagine I will have more when I get down to my ultimate goal. Before I was overweight, I never had great abs, so I figure I can get a tummy tuck after the baby is born and still won't have great abs.0
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To give the OP the benefit of the doubt her intentions may have been good.
Sometimes we are subjected to unrealistic images of perfection which we are supposed to aspire to, which in reality, may not be practically achievable for many people although in theory it maybe. I guess women are disproportionately the target of such images (although men are being subjected to this more and more.)
It is true that pregnancy may cause a woman to permanently lose the elasticity of her skin around her stomach and little short of surgery can correct that. Therefore women feeling anxiety over what they cannot truly change is not a good thing. That is not a given however.
I guess a better focus would be rather than aspiring to achieve a certain look it is better to aspire to improve your health, happiness and well being within the practical limitations your life presents to you.
Live long and prosper my friends.
The issue with MFP is that you soon learn that those goals aren't theoretically possible. They've been achieved by women who have two or more of the following attributes
- your age
- came here morbidly obese after a lifelong struggle with weight
- has kids
- is a single parent/parents alone much of the year
- works a 50 hour week
- has PCOS
- has chronic pain
- has a condition that renders them sedentary for weeks or months at a time
Ka-boosh!
Hear that? That was the sound of my excuses blowing up.
I carry 25% body fat and look just normal because I choose to. Not because my life doesn't allow me to be more muscular or slimmer.
Sure, I understand that and that is terrific.
That does not change the fact that no amount of exercise or good diet is going to overcome permanent loss of skin elasticity or stretch marks. Neither does it factor in the genetic structure of a person's abdominal muscles or their psychological suitability for trying to achieve a certain "look".
Genetics are a real factor that get used as an excuse more often than not.
Honestly, as much as I hate mass media and the ridiculous images that we are inundated with, there are a wide variety of "looks" even among Hollywood actresses. There isn't and has never been one unobtainable look that we are all supposed to aspire to. You can pick and choose your goal body based on what you have to work with: I've always been more of a Martine Beswick than a Rachel Welch, for instance. I aspire to Amber at GoKaleo.com
In the thread we are referring to, USMCMP wasn't presenting some sort of theoretical ideal. She described what she did - stretch marks and all. And she is a a bikini competitor.
Given the huge number of women on this very site who have had kids, been fat and gotten into fabulous shape afterward, I'd reserve judgement and see what you CAN do rather than limiting your goals based on what you think you are stuck with given your history.
Shes not a bikini competitor.
Shes a physique competitor.
Shes made it clear she won't prance in heels across the stage (though there is nothing wrong if thats what you want to do - its just not for her). This is from a convo she and I had about competing since I'm toying with a bikini comp.
Oooh. My bad. I thought it was surprising that she would choose bikini. I didn't know there was a difference. Consider me schooled.
Not a problem!
Its different levels of musculature. Bikini is the least amount of muscle this figure then physique and bodybuilder. Its different suits and different poses. Bodybuilder class for females don't wear heels or other shoes actually. One of my old gyms essentially had the NPC section for the state running out of it lol. They held a free posing seminar and I went. Plus I've been to a show as a spectator. Its pretty neat0 -
Shes not a bikini competitor.
Shes a physique competitor.
Shes made it clear she won't prance in heels across the stage (though there is nothing wrong if thats what you want to do - its just not for her). This is from a convo she and I had about competing since I'm toying with a bikini comp.
Oooh. My bad. I thought it was surprising that she would choose bikini. I didn't know there was a difference. Consider me schooled.
http://www.ngaidaho.com/whats-the-difference-womens-bodybuilding-figure-and-bikini/
I do bodybuilding in the natural competitions and physique (between bodybuilding and figure) in the not natural competitions (some compete natural and some use steroids, I can't get big enough to compete as a bodybuilder in those shows because I don't use steroids).0 -
I'm with OP. Everyone can't have a flat stomach... FACT. I'd say that most people who were obese for 10+ years (I'm not talking overweight here, but with 70+ pounds to lose) will not be able to get a flat stomach without surgery. A mom who gained 20 pounds during pregnancy and lost them right away... probably not a problem.
I do agree that sometimes those threads, even though they mean well, give people unrealistic expectations.0
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