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You are looking so thin......
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Hysterical neither of these women are fit to me. I don't care what they do with themselves- but it is not a body type I find attractive or long to be- BUT- they may be perfectly happy- which is fine- I'm not here to judge- but since you are judging- I'll go ahead and let you know I'm judging you on your definition of "fit"
because Kiera Knightly really? fit?
Love her- she's beautiful- even side/center boob leakage and all- but fit?This is how I see thin...........
This is how I see fit..........0 -
I am not in anyway saying, a thinner female body is, in anyway less beautiful.
Actually, that's exactly what you said.
Actually what I said is a stick figure is not beautiful.
and who exactly is making the counter argument that stick figures are beautiful?
I will because they are. Every time my daughter hands me a picture she's drawn, I think it is beautiful.
Humans aren't stick figures, and equating a human being to a stick figure is insulting, regardless of so-called intentions.0 -
I am not in anyway saying, a thinner female body is, in anyway less beautiful.
Actually, that's exactly what you said.
Actually what I said is a stick figure is not beautiful.
and who exactly is making the counter argument that stick figures are beautiful?0 -
Hysterical neither of these women are fit to me. I don't care what they do with themselves- but it is not a body type I find attractive or long to be- BUT- they may be perfectly happy- which is fine- I'm not here to judge- but since you are judging- I'll go ahead and let you know I'm judging you on your definition of "fit"
because Kiera Knightly really? fit?
Love her- she's beautiful- even side/center boob leakage and all- but fit?This is how I see thin...........
This is how I see fit..........
I wonder what OP definition of FIT is?0 -
There are different types of fitness. Not just one.0
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Well this thread is a big ole cluster ****.0
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I just think you should chose your words carefully.
Okay:
I do not want to be "thin". I want to be "fit", and have visible muscles. This is the look I prefer for myself, and what I find most attractive in others.
Not okay:
I do not want to be "thin". "Thin" is not beautiful, "fit" is beautiful.
But I I say "I don't want to be thin. Thin isn't beautiful to me, but being fit is." it's unacceptable, even though I am clearly talking about how I feel? And it's not okay because thin women might be offended that I don't think they're beautiful? Because I'm morally obligated to pretend like I think all bodies are beautiful?
Anddddd that's okay?
No, of course you aren't morally obligated to pretend you think all bodies are beautiful. But yes, I do believe people should try not to insult others. And OP didn't *just* say "thin isn't beautiful to me". She posted 3 paragraphs emphasizing her opinion and justifying why it was "right", and thanking her parents for it, etc.0 -
Heeehee..have at it!!!:huh:0
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I just think you should chose your words carefully.
Okay:
I do not want to be "thin". I want to be "fit", and have visible muscles. This is the look I prefer for myself, and what I find most attractive in others.
Not okay:
I do not want to be "thin". "Thin" is not beautiful, "fit" is beautiful.
But I I say "I don't want to be thin. Thin isn't beautiful to me, but being fit is." it's unacceptable, even though I am clearly talking about how I feel? And it's not okay because thin women might be offended that I don't think they're beautiful? Because I'm morally obligated to pretend like I think all bodies are beautiful?
Anddddd that's okay?
No, of course you aren't morally obligated to pretend you think all bodies are beautiful. But yes, I do believe people should try not to insult others. And OP didn't *just* say "thin isn't beautiful to me". She posted 3 paragraphs emphasizing her opinion and justifying why it was "right", and thanking her parents for it, etc.
I'm not sure you call call what the OP posted paragraphs let alone number them, honestly. Seems more like one really long sentence/thought.
Emphasizing a point isn't wrong. She prefaced with 'To me', making it clear that it's her judgement. That's a far cry from 'Men don't want bones' or 'Muscularity on women is gross' or "Being above a size 14 is just unhealthy and disgusting'. In fact it's no different fromjust an FYI for your reference keira knightley the girl in the second photo is underweight by medical standards and has long since been called anorexic because she will often get down to the size of the girl in the top photo.
I think OP should learn when to "speak" and not to speak and not be offensive. And personally I'd rather look "thin" without a bunch of muscle tone than "fit". You can be thin without being emaciated looked. Learn the difference.
this, which casts judgement on Keira Knightley under the guise of medical standards (concern trolling) and takes time to stop over and express her view of the 'muscular' look. But this was fine even tho it's in no way different than the OP's post. I suppose because it was brief? More words = more offense?
We all wanna stop body shaming but this reeks of fighting against someone's personal opinion and trying to take it from them/police how they're allowed to express themselves because it's not up to the standards of others.0 -
When people compliment me, I give the benefit of the doubt that they meant it as a compliment (and are not bogged down by hang ups over words). And I thank them. I don't launch into a speech and get angry at them, and demand that they compliment me My Way.0
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I sense hurt buttocks.
Are there hurt buttocks in the house?0 -
Or we could all just stop talking about other's bodies.
This. I'm really just trying to focus on me.0 -
Good job OP, body shaming thin people is never a good ideal and I believe it's against the rules of MFP to do so.0
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I sense hurt buttocks.
Are there hurt buttocks in the house?
butthurt is always funny.0 -
just an FYI for your reference keira knightley the girl in the second photo is underweight by medical standards and has long since been called anorexic because she will often get down to the size of the girl in the top photo.
I think OP should learn when to "speak" and not to speak and not be offensive. And personally I'd rather look "thin" without a bunch of muscle tone than "fit". You can be thin without being emaciated looked. Learn the difference.
this, which casts judgement on Keira Knightley under the guise of medical standards (concern trolling) and takes time to stop over and express her view of the 'muscular' look. But this was fine even tho it's in no way different than the OP's post. I suppose because it was brief? More words = more offense?0 -
I sense hurt buttocks.
Are there hurt buttocks in the house?
butthurt is always funny.
for great truth.0 -
I am not in anyway saying, a thinner female body is, in anyway less beautiful.
Actually, that's exactly what you said.
Actually what I said is a stick figure is not beautiful.
Actually, what you said is, "Fit is beautiful, thin is not" and "Thin is not beautiful."
Don't make such a bold statement and then try to take it back. It doesn't work like that here or in the real world. I understand your point of the message. However, the above two statements in quotations are where your message took a turn for the worst.
You, along with everyone else in the world, are in no way, shape, or form entitled to decide what type of body is beautiful and what isn't. Thin is beautiful. Fit is beautiful. Curvy is beautiful. Overweight is beautiful. Obese is beautiful. White is beautiful. Black is beautiful. You get the point.0 -
When people compliment me, I give the benefit of the doubt that they meant it as a compliment (and are not bogged down by hang ups over words). And I thank them. I don't launch into a speech and get angry at them, and demand that they compliment me My Way.
Sometimes people tell me I'm very well spoken/really pretty for a black person. Or oh, 'hey, you're must smarter than people in the military usually are.' or 'wow, you just seem like you've always been small, I never would have guess you had to work at it.' I'm fairly certainly certain they mean it as a compliment and yet it's really hard for me go 'hey, thanks.'.
I'm not saying you gotta get mad but there is nothing wrong with saying "Hey, I actually don't care for that."
But I'm not one to let people say crap I don't appreciate to me and smile because they're 'really nice' or whatever0 -
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When people compliment me, I give the benefit of the doubt that they meant it as a compliment (and are not bogged down by hang ups over words). And I thank them. I don't launch into a speech and get angry at them, and demand that they compliment me My Way.
Sometimes people tell me I'm very well spoken/really pretty for a black person. Or oh, 'hey, you're must smarter than people in the military usually are.' or 'wow, you just seem like you've always been small, I never would have guess you had to work at it.' I'm fairly certainly certain they mean it as a compliment and yet it's really hard for me go 'hey, thanks.'.
I'm not saying you gotta get mad but there is nothing wrong with saying "Hey, I actually don't care for that."
But I'm not one to let people say crap I don't appreciate to me and smile because they're 'really nice' or whatever
Obviously that is completely different from saying, "Wow, that dress looks so good on you. You are so slender. I could never wear a dress like that. Maybe you could give me some fitness advice."
What you are describing are not compliments. Those are racist, stereotyping, ignorant back-handed insults. Except for the third one which is a misunderstanding, and is open for you to provide an explanation.
Of course we evaluate by situation.
I pick my battles wisely. Instead of being offended by every misunderstanding.0
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