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  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    Just some additional thoughts.
    Once again I practise fasting occassionally. The type changes. Sometimes one meal.a day over a period of days, sometimes no.solid food at all for a day or days, etc. The reasons are primarily spiritual!
    My observations though :
    1. Fasting is not ideal or sustainable if being used as a weight loss method if a lifestyle approach is being taken to weight loss
    2. Fasting is great at purging your body of toxins excess and leaves you feeling much healthier once done (even if not during)
    3. Fasting does sort of "turn.a switch" in your mind and helps you realise and also break any unhealthy addictions to food or certain types of food that you may have!
    4. For me, fasting for spiritual reasons coupled with prayer has been a channel to break into realms of the spiritual and miraculous that I had never seen before!

    All the best!

    Name one...just one toxin that is eliminated by fasting that wouldn't otherwise be eliminated by the body while still eating food. You don't have to name all of them...just one. Please, just give the name of even *ONE* toxin. Thanks in advance. :flowerforyou:

    And if you can't name even one toxin, then please stop spreading this misinformation.
    Just to play devil's advocate, everything your body removes in respiration, elimination, perspiration, etc. might be considered a 'toxin' by some. It's something the body wishes to expel and uses energy to do so. Anything can be toxic in the right quantity or environment including oxygen and water.

    Of course you can expel everyday toxins without fasting but the practice has been around so long, I can believe that giving the body a day or three from processing new inputs of toxins might possibly help it clear out the old.

    Too much alcohol is clearly toxic. If you drink to excess nightly, your body can remove the toxins before your next nightly binge. But it also clearly stresses the liver if it continues. Just an example of an everyday toxin.

    Foods can contain toxins. All it takes is a mild, unidentified food allergy and you have an inflammatory response. Remove all foods for a day, you remove all those mild responses to it and might feel good.

    I feel good when I do IF. I just broke a fast and now I feel headachey and congested, which happened the last time my fast-breaking meal had bread. I'm thinking it's a mild response to gluten. I wouldn't know it was happening if I hadn't fasted, I don't think.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
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    Just some additional thoughts.
    Once again I practise fasting occassionally. The type changes. Sometimes one meal.a day over a period of days, sometimes no.solid food at all for a day or days, etc. The reasons are primarily spiritual!
    My observations though :
    1. Fasting is not ideal or sustainable if being used as a weight loss method if a lifestyle approach is being taken to weight loss
    2. Fasting is great at purging your body of toxins excess and leaves you feeling much healthier once done (even if not during)
    3. Fasting does sort of "turn.a switch" in your mind and helps you realise and also break any unhealthy addictions to food or certain types of food that you may have!
    4. For me, fasting for spiritual reasons coupled with prayer has been a channel to break into realms of the spiritual and miraculous that I had never seen before!

    All the best!

    Name one...just one toxin that is eliminated by fasting that wouldn't otherwise be eliminated by the body while still eating food. You don't have to name all of them...just one. Please, just give the name of even *ONE* toxin. Thanks in advance. :flowerforyou:

    And if you can't name even one toxin, then please stop spreading this misinformation.
    Just to play devil's advocate, everything your body removes in respiration, elimination, perspiration, etc. might be considered a 'toxin' by some. It's something the body wishes to expel and uses energy to do so. Anything can be toxic in the right quantity or environment including oxygen and water.

    Of course you can expel everyday toxins without fasting but the practice has been around so long, I can believe that giving the body a day or three from processing new inputs of toxins might possibly help it clear out the old.

    Too much alcohol is clearly toxic. If you drink to excess nightly, your body can remove the toxins before your next nightly binge. But it also clearly stresses the liver if it continues. Just an example of an everyday toxin.

    Foods can contain toxins. All it takes is a mild, unidentified food allergy and you have an inflammatory response. Remove all foods for a day, you remove all those mild responses to it and might feel good.

    I feel good when I do IF. I just broke a fast and now I feel headachey and congested, which happened the last time my fast-breaking meal had bread. I'm thinking it's a mild response to gluten. I wouldn't know it was happening if I hadn't fasted, I don't think.

    Except that every single one of those 'toxins' is removed by the body while eatng normally.

    We are looking for a 'toxin' that can only be removed by fasting.
  • Wookinpanub
    Wookinpanub Posts: 635 Member
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    I'm being trolled - yes?

    otherwise :noway:
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    No I was just being sarcastic b/c I am the one who fell for it. The program included a dvd by Dr. Becky explaining how toxicity is causing obesity and other diseases.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
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    I'm being trolled - yes?

    otherwise :noway:

    No I was just being sarcastic b/c I am the one who fell for it. The program included a dvd by Dr. Becky explaining how toxicity is causing obesity and other diseases.

    We've all fallen for bs at some point.

    That's why so many people here try to warn noobs about the pointlessness of 'detoxing'
  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
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    I'm going to be embarking on a good 3/4 day tea/water fast to cleanse, I am wondering if anyone would like to join me. I have alot of toxins to rid myself of and I heard fasting works for alot of things.
    PM me

    Name one toxin.
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  • GBrady43068
    GBrady43068 Posts: 1,256 Member
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    Toxins in the body don't exist. High dosages of "poisons" can become toxic, but one would be hospitalized from that. You want to "cleanse", just eat more fiber and poo.

    Happy to eat the fibre ..... but I'll draw the line at poo ;-)
    Well played :drinker:
  • FitOldMomma
    FitOldMomma Posts: 790 Member
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    If you have healthy working kidneys and liver, there is no need to cleanse your body of 'toxins'.

    There is no gimmicky way to get healthy; it really is simply eat the proper amount of calories, drink plenty of water, exercise your body, and try your hardest to reduce stress in your life.

    Some people are easily persuaded by woo-hoo health claims: herbs, fasting, enemas, etc.. They may sound legit, but if you can't find actual studies that show their proof, it's a waste of your time (and usually money).

    There is a good community here to help you with legitimate weight loss questions. Some do get a bit smart-alecy but they've probably heard these claims a million+ times and get tired of them.
  • srslybritt
    srslybritt Posts: 1,618 Member
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    in for ebil tawkzinz
  • Galatea_Stone
    Galatea_Stone Posts: 2,037 Member
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    So let me get this straight, a couple of YEARS ago, you decided to make a troll account on MFP, and then you didn't do anything with that troll account for a couple of YEARS, then you make other accounts to respond to yourself in this thread.

    How do you even remember the password after 2 years? And how do you put these accounts together? Do you use Excel to keep track of what's what?
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    Except that every single one of those 'toxins' is removed by the body while eatng normally.

    We are looking for a 'toxin' that can only be removed by fasting.
    Why? Did someone imply fasting was a requirement?
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    So let me get this straight, a couple of YEARS ago, you decided to make a troll account on MFP, and then you didn't do anything with that troll account for a couple of YEARS, then you make other accounts to respond to yourself in this thread.

    How do you even remember the password after 2 years? And how do you put these accounts together? Do you use Excel to keep track of what's what?

    Long cons are my favorite.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    Except that every single one of those 'toxins' is removed by the body while eatng normally.

    We are looking for a 'toxin' that can only be removed by fasting.
    Why? Did someone imply fasting was a requirement?

    Could you please just this once stay on topic?
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
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    Does your body naturally "cleanse" all the additives in our diets? Maybe people use toxins interchangeably with the extra chemicals added to food.

    Basically, yes. And even if the answer was no, fasting would not change it, and neither would 'cleanses' or 'detoxes'.

    This sounds logical.

    Is it possible to overload your system with junk to the point that it can't process the toxins fast enough and they build up? I don't know, but it doesn't seem beyond imagination. But, the solution would be simply to eat less, focus on whole natural foods and give your body time work. Not eating anything at all would probably just make matters worse because of the stress.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    Does your body naturally "cleanse" all the additives in our diets? Maybe people use toxins interchangeably with the extra chemicals added to food.

    Basically, yes. And even if the answer was no, fasting would not change it, and neither would 'cleanses' or 'detoxes'.

    This sounds logical.

    Is it possible to overload your system with junk to the point that it can't process the toxins fast enough and they build up? I don't know, but it doesn't seem beyond imagination. But, the solution would be simply to eat less, focus on whole natural foods and give your body time work. Not eating anything at all would probably just make matters worse because of the stress.

    What toxins?
  • tabicatinthehat
    tabicatinthehat Posts: 329 Member
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    I gotta know about the nickname. Moist Owlets?
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    Except that every single one of those 'toxins' is removed by the body while eatng normally.

    We are looking for a 'toxin' that can only be removed by fasting.
    Why? Did someone imply fasting was a requirement?

    Could you please just this once stay on topic?
    Why is it off topic to ask why "...toxins ONLY removed by fasting" is relevant?

    What is 'on topic' about the question to begin with? No one said there are toxins that can only be removed by fasting.
  • 52cardpickup
    52cardpickup Posts: 379 Member
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    Toxins in the body don't exist. High dosages of "poisons" can become toxic, but one would be hospitalized from that. You want to "cleanse", just eat more fiber and poo.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    But what if I don't WANT to eat more poo? :sad:
  • Wookinpanub
    Wookinpanub Posts: 635 Member
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    But what if I don't WANT to eat more poo? :sad:


    I am sure there's a porn genre dedicated to human waste play
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
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    Does your body naturally "cleanse" all the additives in our diets? Maybe people use toxins interchangeably with the extra chemicals added to food.

    Basically, yes. And even if the answer was no, fasting would not change it, and neither would 'cleanses' or 'detoxes'.

    This sounds logical.

    Is it possible to overload your system with junk to the point that it can't process the toxins fast enough and they build up? I don't know, but it doesn't seem beyond imagination. But, the solution would be simply to eat less, focus on whole natural foods and give your body time work. Not eating anything at all would probably just make matters worse because of the stress.

    What toxins?

    We ingest toxins every day. Through eating, drinking, breathing, absorbing them through the skin or orifices. The toxins would vary depending on location, lifestyle and diet, but even heatlhy foods contain toxins. If we never had toxins in our bodies, we wouldn't have developed organs to get rid of them.

    This is a pretty good article on food toxins, if you are really interested.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3153292/