"All About That Bass" Rant

TavistockToad

"I know you want it." is gross.

my husband says that to me all the time!!! :laugh: i dont find it gross....

Context. Consent is important.

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

47Jacqueline

If you're going to rant, at least get the lyrics right:

"Yeah it's pretty clear, I ain't no size twenty-two" is incorrect.

It's pretty clear that she says "I ain't no size two"

Not that it makes a difference - It's a cute song anyway.

PurringMyrrh

And you make me sad for my gender. 1.3 acres of rainforest burst into flames everytime an ankle biting feminist makes up a "clever" new term. I bet you were just beaming inside when you typed that.

My gender has nothing to do with anything that I've said and it's none of your business. You make me sad for humanity.

See? Even humanity is based on man, so quit acting like your vagina's all superior. They're the top of the food chain.

Speaking of food, think of all the sammiches we could have made by now.

BraveNewdGirl

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

BraveNewdGirl

And you make me sad for my gender. 1.3 acres of rainforest burst into flames everytime an ankle biting feminist makes up a "clever" new term. I bet you were just beaming inside when you typed that.

My gender has nothing to do with anything that I've said and it's none of your business. You make me sad for humanity.

See? Even humanity is based on man, so quit acting like your vagina's all superior. They're the top of the food chain.

Speaking of food, think of all the sammiches we could have made by now.

Do not make assumptions about and/or refer to my genitalia. That, in itself, is gross. Humanity is not "based on man". Educate yourself.

TavistockToad

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

BraveNewdGirl

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

It's an enthusiastic "yes" to sexual contact. There has to be absolutely no doubt that you wish to engage. It doesn't mean that your partner has to ask permission and receive expressed consent every time they want to kiss, touch, etc. you, but that consent must be implied by you. Not just willingness, enthusiastic agreement.

Here's an awesome, on-point video by Laci Green on the topic of consent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI

BraveNewdGirl

And you make me sad for my gender. 1.3 acres of rainforest burst into flames everytime an ankle biting feminist makes up a "clever" new term. I bet you were just beaming inside when you typed that.

My gender has nothing to do with anything that I've said and it's none of your business. You make me sad for humanity.

See? Even humanity is based on man, so quit acting like your vagina's all superior. They're the top of the food chain.

Speaking of food, think of all the sammiches we could have made by now.

Do not make assumptions about and/or refer to my genitalia. That, in itself, is gross. Humanity is not "based on man". Educate yourself.

I didn't need to know that you have a gross vagina. I was picturing it differently.

Sexual harassment doesn't make you edgy.

PurringMyrrh

No, it makes me excited.

TavistockToad

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

It's an enthusiastic "yes" to sexual contact. There has to be absolutely no doubt that you wish to engage. It doesn't mean that your partner has to ask permission and receive expressed consent every time they want to kiss, touch, etc. you, but that consent must be implied by you. Not just willingness, enthusiastic agreement.

Here's an awesome, on-point video by Laci Green on the topic of consent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI

i'm at work so i cant watch your awesome video, but i really dont get why someone cant say 'you know you want it' without consent....

sixout

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

It's an enthusiastic "yes" to sexual contact. There has to be absolutely no doubt that you wish to engage. It doesn't mean that your partner has to ask permission and receive expressed consent every time they want to kiss, touch, etc. you, but that consent must be implied by you. Not just willingness, enthusiastic agreement.

Here's an awesome, on-point video by Laci Green on the topic of consent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI

A feminists that typically appeals to teenagers, speaks out against islam and mormons, and other religoius that are below her since she's an athiest, yet speaks out against "oppression."

Most of these social justice warrior vloggers are hardcore hypocrites, I'll pass on that video.

While I agree that consent definitely needs to be given, calling someone a rapist for saying "you know you want it" is the epitome of idiotic. Also, manspalin? seriously? lol. Women aren't better than men, just as men aren't better than women. If you want equality, stop fighting against it.

BraveNewdGirl

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

It's an enthusiastic "yes" to sexual contact. There has to be absolutely no doubt that you wish to engage. It doesn't mean that your partner has to ask permission and receive expressed consent every time they want to kiss, touch, etc. you, but that consent must be implied by you. Not just willingness, enthusiastic agreement.

Here's an awesome, on-point video by Laci Green on the topic of consent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI

i'm at work so i cant watch your awesome video, but i really dont get why someone cant say 'you know you want it' without consent....

Then you're part of the problem. No amount of glossing over the facts and over-simplification is going to make it okay. You've been provided with resources to educate yourself further. At this point, it's up to you to decide you care and check those links out or you don't care and remain ignorant.

PurringMyrrh

That Laci chick sure shows off her feministic cleavage a bit.

TavistockToad

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

It's an enthusiastic "yes" to sexual contact. There has to be absolutely no doubt that you wish to engage. It doesn't mean that your partner has to ask permission and receive expressed consent every time they want to kiss, touch, etc. you, but that consent must be implied by you. Not just willingness, enthusiastic agreement.

Here's an awesome, on-point video by Laci Green on the topic of consent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI

A feminists that typically appeals to teenagers, speaks out against islam and mormons, and other religoius that are below her since she's an athiest, yet speaks out against "oppression."

Most of these social justice warrior vloggers are hardcore hypocrites, I'll pass on that video.

While I agree that consent definitely needs to be given, calling someone a rapist for saying "you know you want it" is the epitome of idiotic. Also, manspalin? seriously? lol. Women aren't better than men, just as men aren't better than women. If you want equality, stop fighting against it.

thanks for the cliffs notes!

TavistockToad

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

It's an enthusiastic "yes" to sexual contact. There has to be absolutely no doubt that you wish to engage. It doesn't mean that your partner has to ask permission and receive expressed consent every time they want to kiss, touch, etc. you, but that consent must be implied by you. Not just willingness, enthusiastic agreement.

Here's an awesome, on-point video by Laci Green on the topic of consent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI

i'm at work so i cant watch your awesome video, but i really dont get why someone cant say 'you know you want it' without consent....

Then you're part of the problem. No amount of glossing over the facts and over-simplification is going to make it okay. You've been provided with resources to educate yourself further. At this point, it's up to you to decide you care and check those links out or you don't care, and remain ignorant.

i'm part of the problem of why people rape...??? oooooooooohkay then.

great answer, thanks.

PurringMyrrh

If you want equality, stop fighting against it.

Nice.

sixout

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

It's an enthusiastic "yes" to sexual contact. There has to be absolutely no doubt that you wish to engage. It doesn't mean that your partner has to ask permission and receive expressed consent every time they want to kiss, touch, etc. you, but that consent must be implied by you. Not just willingness, enthusiastic agreement.

Here's an awesome, on-point video by Laci Green on the topic of consent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI

i'm at work so i cant watch your awesome video, but i really dont get why someone cant say 'you know you want it' without consent....

Then you're part of the problem. No amount of glossing over the facts and over-simplification is going to make it okay. You've been provided with resources to educate yourself further. At this point, it's up to you to decide you care and check those links out or you don't care and remain ignorant.

Vlogs from biased people that use terms like "mansplain" aren't really educational tools.

BraveNewdGirl

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

It's an enthusiastic "yes" to sexual contact. There has to be absolutely no doubt that you wish to engage. It doesn't mean that your partner has to ask permission and receive expressed consent every time they want to kiss, touch, etc. you, but that consent must be implied by you. Not just willingness, enthusiastic agreement.

Here's an awesome, on-point video by Laci Green on the topic of consent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI

i'm at work so i cant watch your awesome video, but i really dont get why someone cant say 'you know you want it' without consent....

Then you're part of the problem. No amount of glossing over the facts and over-simplification is going to make it okay. You've been provided with resources to educate yourself further. At this point, it's up to you to decide you care and check those links out or you don't care, and remain ignorant.

i'm part of the problem of why people rape...??? oooooooooohkay then.

great answer, thanks.

If you're busy glossing over facts, denigrating others' experiences, over-simplifying and redirecting the discussion when unacceptable behaviour is being called out, then yes, you're part of the problem. The reason rape culture exists is because people allow it to exist.

BraveNewdGirl

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

It's an enthusiastic "yes" to sexual contact. There has to be absolutely no doubt that you wish to engage. It doesn't mean that your partner has to ask permission and receive expressed consent every time they want to kiss, touch, etc. you, but that consent must be implied by you. Not just willingness, enthusiastic agreement.

Here's an awesome, on-point video by Laci Green on the topic of consent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI

i'm at work so i cant watch your awesome video, but i really dont get why someone cant say 'you know you want it' without consent....

Then you're part of the problem. No amount of glossing over the facts and over-simplification is going to make it okay. You've been provided with resources to educate yourself further. At this point, it's up to you to decide you care and check those links out or you don't care and remain ignorant.

Vlogs from biased people that use terms like "mansplain" aren't really educational tools.

She didn't use the term. I did. For the record, she's done work on behalf of Planned Parenthood. Yes, her videos are educational tools.

PurringMyrrh

yes, and the context (other than the song) was a guy said he said he said it to a girl in a club... no different to my husband saying it to me...

its the answer and what goes on after that thats the issue, not a man saying 'you know you want it'... that statement doesnt make him a rapist.

Your husband saying it to you in the context of understood consent is VERY different from a random guy uttering it to a woman that he doesn't know at the club. No, the statement alone does not make a man a rapist. Yes, it is problematic, especially in the context of the song. Go back and read the link that I provided.

i'm not trying to be argumentative but what is 'understood consent?'

It's an enthusiastic "yes" to sexual contact. There has to be absolutely no doubt that you wish to engage. It doesn't mean that your partner has to ask permission and receive expressed consent every time they want to kiss, touch, etc. you, but that consent must be implied by you. Not just willingness, enthusiastic agreement.

Here's an awesome, on-point video by Laci Green on the topic of consent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI

i'm at work so i cant watch your awesome video, but i really dont get why someone cant say 'you know you want it' without consent....

Then you're part of the problem. No amount of glossing over the facts and over-simplification is going to make it okay. You've been provided with resources to educate yourself further. At this point, it's up to you to decide you care and check those links out or you don't care and remain ignorant.

Vlogs from biased people that use terms like "mansplain" aren't really educational tools.

People that use the word "mansplain" are tools though.