Sorry I'm Not Sorry - I gotta rant!

nshannon4

I recently posted on a thread about someone who is having a hard time losing weight - upon looking at their diary, it showed that they consume a decent amount of processed, convenience, and fast foods. My advice was that they should consider really eating more fruits/veggies etc. I used the term "clean eating". Lo and behold, the inevitable comment came in response to my suggestion; I believe the exact quote was "Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is."

I am going to lose my mind if I hear or see this comment again! I realize that for so many people the goal is to shed pounds, and I'm all for that! Obviously, losing the extra pounds is the first thing that is going to happen when converting to a healthy lifestyle, and it's mandatory in order to decrease the likelihood of obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, etc. But that's not the point of all of this. Food can be the best, most powerful form of medicine, or the slowest form of poison. The point is to eat the foods that are going to keep you healthy for the rest of your life. YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT! Fresh produce, whole grains, unprocessed food, little or no refined sugar/ wite flours - THAT is how you lose weight, and get healthy.

It is dangerous and counterproductive to suggest that it doesn't matter what you put into your body. I expect backlash to this rant, and I welcome all you trolls to tell me that I'm wrong - but you ask any single expert, or even just a health conscious person out there and they will say the exact thing I've just said. No one can dispute this.

kgeyser

Define "healthy."

diannethegeek

This post is not going to end well.

KandGRanch

im all about IIFYM-to a degree. but you're right. you get out what you put in. I cant perform if I have 2000 calories of donuts and cheeseburgers instead of vegetables and lean meat.

cookeylady

I am with you sista! Clean eating is the way to go! I recently experienced the same response from someone as well. hmmm. must be in the air.

TavistockToad

This post is not going to end well.

This....

IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym

YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT! Fresh produce, whole grains, unprocessed food, little or no refined sugar/ wite flours - THAT is how you lose weight, and get healthy.

so, if that's how one goes about losing weight, is the opposite how I go about gaining that extra 5 pounds??

JoRocka

YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT! Fresh produce, whole grains, unprocessed food, little or no refined sugar/ wite flours - THAT is how you lose weight, and get healthy.

I don't want to be any of those things- I want to be a lean mean fighting machine like a side of delicious skirt steak.


You can be ragey all you want about it- but the reality is- while basic foods will help you feel full longer- since they tend to have lower calories than ordered food- they aren't inherently better.

The trade off- eating out usually means the individual foods are higher in calories- which means you can eat less and are often unsatisfied through the day- which means you eat MORE to feel full.

If you eat less calorie dense food- but very voluminous food- you feel fuller- having consumed less calories- which means you can maintain the trend and lose weight.

But one is not inherently better than the other.

PS- I don't think this thread will end the way you want it to.

jkal1979

In to see where this goes.

reddz12

This CANNOT end well....

tulips_and_tea

Well, while I personally agree with you, I fully realize it is just that: my opinion. My husband doesn't even have the same opinions I do regarding food and health and that's okay. We are all entitled to our opinions. I don't "preach" or try to convince him of my opinions and neither does he.

What I don't like or agree with is when someone tries to convince everyone else that they are right and others are wrong. Just simply not the case, but that seems to be very common on these boards.

smelanie504

Dangit, you had me until "little or no refined sugar/ w(h)ite flours"

JK no you didn't.

WillLift4Tats

Oh this thread again!

spirit095

Definitely in......

I do agree to an extent though. Everything in moderation. I love me some "unhealthy" foods

Brialychr3

I totally agree with you. People are just ignorant if they think that eating a full day of processed foods under their calorie goal is healthy. They might lose weight but they certainly won't gain any muscle. And over the long run these skinny healthy people die of heart attacks. Its the whole foods that helps us in the long run to live a long joyful life!

BombshellPhoenix

Hmmm. You are what you eat.

Guess I'mma bowl of count chocula. ♡ yum yum yum

colibri23

You are a brave, brave soul. I don't have nearly enough time to go into everything I think on this subject, but I'll throw in these two cents:

I work in the biomedical research field (cancer). About two months ago, the director of the NIH came to my university to give a talk about many many things. Among the data he presented was the risk factors for various types of cancer. Everyone knows smoking is number one for lung cancer; the number two risk for colorectal cancer was processed meat (and the risk of cancer increased with any amount of processed meat consumed).

SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage

This post is not going to end well.

This....

+1

I really, really want to respond to all this but I've been around here long enough to know better, so in for fun :laugh:

IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym

Hmmm. You are what you eat.

Guess I'mma bowl of count chocula. ♡ yum yum yum

wanna share that and I'll share my Milk Duds with you??

sullus

I recently posted on a thread about someone who is having a hard time losing weight - upon looking at their diary, it showed that they consume a decent amount of processed, convenience, and fast foods. My advice was that they should consider really eating more fruits/veggies etc. I used the term "clean eating". Lo and behold, the inevitable comment came in response to my suggestion; I believe the exact quote was "Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is."

I am going to lose my mind if I hear or see this comment again! I realize that for so many people the goal is to shed pounds, and I'm all for that! Obviously, losing the extra pounds is the first thing that is going to happen when converting to a healthy lifestyle, and it's mandatory in order to decrease the likelihood of obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, etc. But that's not the point of all of this. Food can be the best, most powerful form of medicine, or the slowest form of poison. The point is to eat the foods that are going to keep you healthy for the rest of your life. YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT! Fresh produce, whole grains, unprocessed food, little or no refined sugar/ wite flours - THAT is how you lose weight, and get healthy.

It is dangerous and counterproductive to suggest that it doesn't matter what you put into your body. I expect backlash to this rant, and I welcome all you trolls to tell me that I'm wrong - but you ask any single expert, or even just a health conscious person out there and they will say the exact thing I've just said. No one can dispute this.

Yeah, but ... seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.

tedrickp

baba_helly

if you are to be believed I must be taco bell.

BombshellPhoenix

I want to go back and eat like they do in the wild...To be an animal. ..

emdeesea

I do agree with you to a certain extent, but for a lot of people, they just need to get started.

I know when I started out, I just restricted calories. That was it. And it worked for a while. But yeah, you get into it and realize that while that Big Mac is "only" 700 calories (or whatever it is), I'm freaking hungry again two hours later. So rather than spend 700 calories, I can spend 200 on some eggs and cheese, and I'll be satisfied for just as long, if not longer, and I'm getting so much more out of it.

People gotta figure this out on their own time. Some do, some won't.

eric_sg61

http://www.healthylivingheavylifting.com/the-perils-of-clean-eating/

jfboomer

In to see how long this lasts!

nshannon4

Define "healthy."

Well, if you actually need me to define "healthy" for you, then here it is:

adjective, healthier, healthiest.
1. possessing or enjoying good health or a sound and vigorous mentality:
"a healthy body; a healthy mind."

That's how the dictionary defines. If that doesn't satisfy you, then my definition of healthy is being able to sleep restfully through the night, having the energy to make it through the day without needing to consume caffeine/sugar, pooping regularly, feeling positive, and happy, and knowing that, barring any chronic/unexpected diseases, you are going to look forward to long life.

If neither of those help you in your search for healthy, I'm not sure what will.

PRMinx

BombshellPhoenix

Hmmm. You are what you eat.

Guess I'mma bowl of count chocula. ♡ yum yum yum

wanna share that and I'll share my Milk Duds with you??

Yes plz:flowerforyou:

Then, we can have some

BlueBombers

Troll? Now that's not nice.

Some_Watery_Tart

You are what you spew out on the forums too. :flowerforyou: