Pregnancy 2011-February
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Ok, I am probably opening a huge can or worms here... but what is everyone planning to do re: circumcision? (if you have a boy)
Personally for my husband and I, I don't feel we need to do it. Hundreds of thousands of men are not circumsized. It will hurt the baby. There can be complications.
Hubby is cut, so he of course feels his son should be too. But that was almost 30 years ago and times have changed now. I am so torn!0 -
my son was circumsised and he didn't even cry when they did it. This boy on the way will be as well and so is my husband. I think it depends on your culture and the area you grew up in.
I would think men who are uncirc. deal with issues as they are growing. In fact I've never seen an uncirc. man before. I only saw my little boy before his was done.
It really is a personal descision.0 -
I'm not for circ. My brother isn't, but i think my dad is. there was never any talk that he wasn't "the same". I think it's silly to "do it so boy is the same as dad."Ok, I am probably opening a huge can or worms here... but what is everyone planning to do re: circumcision? (if you have a boy)
I think that it's mutilation unless it's medically necessary. (i know it's a harsh statement, sorry)
Both my sisters circ'd their sons. they never talked to me about it, and I never said boo.
it's the parents decision, but all i can think of is, "I wouldn't want it done to my daughter, why would i do it to my son?" (i know it's not the same but in other countries... *shudder*)
Doctors in Canada are now charging $300-$400 to circ, when it use to be covered by our provincial health care. it's no longer considered medically necessary. that's all i need to know.
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@ AnneElise - Yay! I hope this is the turning point for your m/s.
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Ok, I am probably opening a huge can or worms here... but what is everyone planning to do re: circumcision? (if you have a boy)
Personally for my husband and I, I don't feel we need to do it. Hundreds of thousands of men are not circumsized. It will hurt the baby. There can be complications.
Hubby is cut, so he of course feels his son should be too. But that was almost 30 years ago and times have changed now. I am so torn!
Before we knew we're having a girl, we had decided not to circumcise if we were having a boy. We're not religious & after lots of research and thought, we couldn't think of any other reason to do it. My hubby is circumcised and so are all the men in both of our families (as far as we know... which fortunately isn't too far
) but we still absolutely agreed 100% about how we feel about it. If we have a boy in the future, he won't be circumcised.
Circumcision is rapidly becoming far less common in the US and isn't very common at all in most other countries.0 -
Ok, I am probably opening a huge can or worms here... but what is everyone planning to do re: circumcision? (if you have a boy)
Personally for my husband and I, I don't feel we need to do it. Hundreds of thousands of men are not circumsized. It will hurt the baby. There can be complications.
Hubby is cut, so he of course feels his son should be too. But that was almost 30 years ago and times have changed now. I am so torn!
Before we knew we're having a girl, we had decided not to circumcise if we were having a boy. We're not religious & after lots of research and thought, we couldn't think of any other reason to do it. My hubby is circumcised and so are all the men in both of our families (as far as we know... which fortunately isn't too far) but we still absolutely agreed 100% about how we feel about it. If we have a boy in the future, he won't be circumcised.
Circumcision is rapidly becoming far less common in the US and isn't very common at all in most other countries.
That is so funny:laugh: It makes me want to puke thinking if the other men in the family are circumsised:sick: LOL:laugh: I don't want to go there.0 -
Ok, I am probably opening a huge can or worms here... but what is everyone planning to do re: circumcision? (if you have a boy)
Personally for my husband and I, I don't feel we need to do it. Hundreds of thousands of men are not circumsized. It will hurt the baby. There can be complications.
Hubby is cut, so he of course feels his son should be too. But that was almost 30 years ago and times have changed now. I am so torn!
Before we knew we're having a girl, we had decided not to circumcise if we were having a boy. We're not religious & after lots of research and thought, we couldn't think of any other reason to do it. My hubby is circumcised and so are all the men in both of our families (as far as we know... which fortunately isn't too far) but we still absolutely agreed 100% about how we feel about it. If we have a boy in the future, he won't be circumcised.
Circumcision is rapidly becoming far less common in the US and isn't very common at all in most other countries.
Here's a good article from 2007 about your point. Seems like it is from an influx of immigration.
http://www.nysun.com/national/circumcision-becoming-less-common-in-us/56818/0 -
My husband is circumcised, if we have a boy he will be too.0
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That is so funny:laugh: It makes me want to puke thinking if the other men in the family are circumsised:sick: LOL:laugh: I don't want to go there.
I am too embarassed to ask my mom about my brother! That is the only other man really in our family except for my father in law and step father. And I am DEFINATELY not going there. Lol!
I find it surprising that you have not seen someone who was not before ckmama - but again like you said it probably depends on your area, etc.
I think we will end up not doing it, as most of the baby books I have been reading say that it is generally not recommended anymore (in Canada anyways). But we will talk to our dr and see what she says.0 -
Happy February Ladies! Yay!
So, i'm 17 weeks today I'm feeling
better than normal so I'm glad
There was so much to catch up on
going back to read up on how everyone
is doing. Have a good weekend!0 -
Got a good start of the high carb diet today, went to a buffet for lunch and had potato soup, mac and cheese and bread yum. Can't each much anymore though. I am not looking forward to have them draw blood so many times but I have convinced my hubby that I will deserve a bacon cheddar burger after the appointment is done since I will be starving from midnight til about 11am.
Congrats on the new expectant mothers, these girls are all so great
As for circ vs no circ, it is a personal decision and there is no medical reason to do so. Hubby is not but he was born in another country. Both of our boys are though after lots of consideration, my cousin works for a urologist and said it was much better and cleaner for the boys. I was worried after reading a story of a botched job but both turned out just fine. I think my 3 1/2 year old would notice a difference considering he asked me if someone cut off my penis and testicles :laugh: oh yes we had a long talk.
I would love to have a work from home job but we are fortunate enough that we can get by on my income and hubby is a SAHD. I think it would be very difficult to work from home though, my 3 1/2 year old wants my constant attention all day long. Good thing he loves doing yard work with daddy or else I would never get a break.0 -
YEA! Yesterday I went 1 whole day without getting sick! This hasn't happened in over 7 weeks. I am hopeful!
and it is friday! Happy friday ladies!
I think that is a good sign. For me it started out one good day, and then I would have a couple more, until the good days now out number the bad.0 -
Hey ladies! Sorry I wasn't around to comment the last couple of days. My internet was out.
We went to the Dr. today and had our 18wk ultrasound. We are having a little girl!! I'm so excited! We already decided on our girl name awhile back: Emma Jolie Miller. I can't wait to meet her.0 -
Congratulations on your girl. 0
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. I think my 3 1/2 year old would notice a difference considering he asked me if someone cut off my penis and testicles :laugh: oh yes we had a long talk.
Too funny, my nephew thought my sisters was in her butt, that's why she sat down to pee.:laugh: Mine just asked me if I had an "inny"0 -
Congrats on the lil girl, looks like we are starting to get more and more pink around here!
My older son never questioned anything but the lil guy is super curious, when he was 2 he cried for a candy out of the machine in the ladies room so I had to explain pads and tampons. He never got over that one and ALWAYS asks me if I need a tampon when he sees the machines. Hubby thinks our lil guy knows too much, especially since he goes around telling all of our family that his sister is going to come out of mommys vagina but oh well. I think that it is better to give them the correct information in a very fact of the matter way.
Where do babies come from? hmm, that was an easy one right? I am sure I am not the only one who was asked that question. My answer was simple. You pray and ask god to put a baby seed in mommys tummy then it gets watered somehow and the baby grows like zuchinni in our garden. Okay so I wasn't ready to answer all of the questions yet but for 3 and 6 those seem like appropriate answers right now. On the other hand my 6 year old reads everything and asked me what plan b was when we were at the OB office. That was another easy answer " Mommy will tell you all about it when you go to middle school" Scary how young they have to be educated these days but I prefer being open and honest, everything my mom wasnt. All we can do is trust that we are raising them right and they will make good choices in life, especially when they know about all of the horrible diseases out there!0 -
Hey ladies! Sorry I wasn't around to comment the last couple of days. My internet was out.
We went to the Dr. today and had our 18wk ultrasound. We are having a little girl!! I'm so excited! We already decided on our girl name awhile back: Emma Jolie Miller. I can't wait to meet her.
Congratulations on your baby girl :flowerforyou: I love the name, very pretty!0 -
Congratulations on having a girl!!
" Mommy will tell you all about it when you go to middle school"
This made me laugh. When I was little I asked my dad what sex was. I don't know where I heard the word, but I was way to young to get the correct answer. Without missing a beat he said, "it doesn't matter because you have to be 35 and pass a test before you can do it." My response was, "oh ok, like driving!"0 -
Ok, I am probably opening a huge can or worms here... but what is everyone planning to do re: circumcision? (if you have a boy)
Personally for my husband and I, I don't feel we need to do it. Hundreds of thousands of men are not circumsized. It will hurt the baby. There can be complications.
Hubby is cut, so he of course feels his son should be too. But that was almost 30 years ago and times have changed now. I am so torn!
My first is. It was no big deal for him. I figured for the low risk it really is, that I would rather do it when he was little than have the possibility of problems when he is older, or god forbid having to have it done when he was older!0 -
Hey ladies! Sorry I wasn't around to comment the last couple of days. My internet was out.
We went to the Dr. today and had our 18wk ultrasound. We are having a little girl!! I'm so excited! We already decided on our girl name awhile back: Emma Jolie Miller. I can't wait to meet her.
Congrats on the girl! How fun! I love the name.0 -
So weird question. At the ultrasound they mentioned an echogenic heart focus, which is something like a calcium deposit on the heart that goes away. They said it was actually quite common, but that they had to tell me that, of all the babies who have this, there is a very low percentage that have down syndrome. However, of all the children born with down syndrome, a high percent have this echogenic heart focus. I don't know if that makes sense. I have looked it up and it seems like a very slim chance that it means our baby has DS. I keep telling myself not to worry about it. I don't think that I am, but my mind keeps going back to it.
Have any of you had this before and gone on to have perfectly healthy babies?0 -
So weird question. At the ultrasound they mentioned an echogenic heart focus, which is something like a calcium deposit on the heart that goes away. They said it was actually quite common, but that they had to tell me that, of all the babies who have this, there is a very low percentage that have down syndrome. However, of all the children born with down syndrome, a high percent have this echogenic heart focus. I don't know if that makes sense. I have looked it up and it seems like a very slim chance that it means our baby has DS. I keep telling myself not to worry about it. I don't think that I am, but my mind keeps going back to it.
Have any of you had this before and gone on to have perfectly healthy babies?
Did you do the AFP or NST testing? They usually tell you the odds of your baby having anything.0 -
Haha! That's funny about the little questions. I've had a few questions about how the baby got in my tummy at the childcare. I try to veer off the subject.
That was one thing I was worried about if we had a boy. There was never a question over circumcising. I was just worried about changing diapers and bathtime while the little one healed.0 -
Did you do the AFP or NST testing? They usually tell you the odds of your baby having anything.
We didn't. We're both in our early 20s with no history of genetic abnormalities on either side of the family. We figured it would be a waste to get a risk percentage that could just worry us and turn out not to mean anything. Now I'm wondering if I should just do that blood test he offered us today. He said we could only do it until 20 weeks, so it's a small window.0 -
Did you do the AFP or NST testing? They usually tell you the odds of your baby having anything.
We didn't. We're both in our early 20s with no history of genetic abnormalities on either side of the family. We figured it would be a waste to get a risk percentage that could just worry us and turn out not to mean anything. Now I'm wondering if I should just do that blood test he offered us today. He said we could only do it until 20 weeks, so it's a small window.
The only reason I plan on doing it is because my BIL who is a dr. said they may deliver the baby differently or do something differently at birth if there is a high risk of something.0 -
I have had the testing with all of my kids, I had my first at 21 second at 24 and will be 28 this time around so fairly young with all of them. I just would rather know if something were wrong so that both I and the doctors could be prepared if there was anything wrong. I know that there are no risk factors based on our age nor do any of our families have any history but I am a planner. I would get the testing if I were you, perhaps they would be able to get your more information about the baby's condition. I would think they would be able to tell you if it is down syndrome or anything like that. It is a simple test, all they do is draw some blood from you so to me it is super simple for all that it can tell you. I did the NST this time around which was a blood draw at 10 or so weeks then an ultrasound at 12 weeks followed by another blood draw closer to 20 weeks. We had a hard time seeing all of the chambers of the heart since the princess LOVED to show us her back side.... I had to get several ultrasounds but everything turned out just fine and I got to be told repeatedly that she is a girl which is comforting. Besides, who doesnt want to see their baby extra times?0
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So weird question. At the ultrasound they mentioned an echogenic heart focus, which is something like a calcium deposit on the heart that goes away. They said it was actually quite common, but that they had to tell me that, of all the babies who have this, there is a very low percentage that have down syndrome. However, of all the children born with down syndrome, a high percent have this echogenic heart focus. I don't know if that makes sense. I have looked it up and it seems like a very slim chance that it means our baby has DS. I keep telling myself not to worry about it. I don't think that I am, but my mind keeps going back to it.
Have any of you had this before and gone on to have perfectly healthy babies?
The blood test will just tell you if there is a chance that there might be something. It has a very high false positive rate and does not tell you anything about what it is that may or may not be wrong. It is a prescreen to send you in for more - and riskier - tests like an amnio. I would not consent myself to the risks of an amnio simply to predetermine possible genetic problems. Plus, with DS, it is something that further along ultrasounds can help to predict (shorter femur length etc) if all you want is to be emotionally prepared should there be anything "wrong". I opted out of the genetic testing. 1) like i said, I would not consent to an amnio and 2) if it had something I wouldn't abort it so why bother with the risks? I don't think that the shock or emotions or preparation would be any different than finding out at birth. There's always a chance that something is or goes wrong. I just don't worry about it.0 -
Ok, I am probably opening a huge can or worms here... but what is everyone planning to do re: circumcision? (if you have a boy)
Personally for my husband and I, I don't feel we need to do it. Hundreds of thousands of men are not circumsized. It will hurt the baby. There can be complications.
Hubby is cut, so he of course feels his son should be too. But that was almost 30 years ago and times have changed now. I am so torn!
My 4 boys are not circ'ed and if this one shall be a boy he will not either. My dh is circ'ed, but prefers non circ for his boys. It has made no difference to my boys that their dad is and they are not, all penises look different regardless. I see it as a human rights issue. I would never cut my girls so why would I cut my boys. If they desire that in the future it will be their choice. I will never take that right from them.0 -
I saw a post on here from another thread about a calorie calculator website for women who are pregnant.
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/pregnancy_calorie_calculator.htm
what's everyone's thoughts on this?0 -
Thanks for the replies. I thought about it and did about as much research as one can do online last night. Basically, this spot can occur in up to 20% of 2nd and 3rd trimester ultrasounds. Many believe that it would occur in even more if doctors were able to get a good view of the heart on all ultrasounds. Less than 1% end up having any sort of birth defect. As far as DS, the spot is one of 7 soft indicators. In order to say that there is a high probability of my baby having anything, the doctor would have had to have seen the other 6 soft indicators, which they did not. In fact they said we have a perfectly healthy baby girl in all other aspects. The spot does not in any way indicate a heart defect. In most circumstances it is just one of those things that goes away in time and means absolutely nothing.
I think I'm just going to take all of this information and relax. I won't be doing the blood test. First of all, blood tests make me pass out, which I've already done twice at this office and don't wish to do again Second, with the whole false positive posibility, I don't feel the need to put myself through any more stress.
I guess this was a good way to put this information out there in case anyone else finds the "echogenic heart focus" in their 18-20wk ultrasound. It is nothing to worry about if you are young and have no history of chromosomal abnormalities in your family.
THE END! Time to simply celebrate my little girl! hehe.0
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