Asked my Trainer re eating back calories

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  • cloud2011
    cloud2011 Posts: 898 Member
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    Thanks for sharing!
  • Snjlowe
    Snjlowe Posts: 11 Member
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    THANKS for posting. I've been wondering about this and it makes sense now!
  • cloud2011
    cloud2011 Posts: 898 Member
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    "starvation mode" which simply DOES NOT exist. Let me say it again - it does not exist - unless you are at a Nazi Concentration Camp and have been ritually denied basic sustenance for months and months on end.

    Reference Ancel Keys' Minnesota starvation study, where the idea of 'starvation mode' came from. Men who ate at a 50% caloric deficit for 6 months showed a 40% reduction in metabolism. They ate approximately 1500 calories per day; hardly what we'd consider being "ritually denied basic sustenance."

    Now, the idea of starvation mode has been greatly abused and misapplied (perhaps by the trainer in question,) but the research suggests it does indeed exist.

    Maybe it would be better to describe it as "wrecking your metabolism" or "kicking in an unhealthy yo-yo weight cycle." For most people with this issue, I think that's what happens.
  • jeepwidow01
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    Thank you so much for sharing her answer!
  • angel79202
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    "starvation mode" which simply DOES NOT exist. Let me say it again - it does not exist - unless you are at a Nazi Concentration Camp and have been ritually denied basic sustenance for months and months on end.

    Reference Ancel Keys' Minnesota starvation study, where the idea of 'starvation mode' came from. Men who ate at a 50% caloric deficit for 6 months showed a 40% reduction in metabolism. They ate approximately 1500 calories per day; hardly what we'd consider being "ritually denied basic sustenance."

    Now, the idea of starvation mode has been greatly abused and misapplied (perhaps by the trainer in question,) but the research suggests it does indeed exist.

    Maybe it would be better to describe it as "wrecking your metabolism" or "kicking in an unhealthy yo-yo weight cycle." For most people with this issue, I think that's what happens.

    i agree :)
  • jenniebean1680
    jenniebean1680 Posts: 351 Member
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    "starvation mode" which simply DOES NOT exist. Let me say it again - it does not exist - unless you are at a Nazi Concentration Camp and have been ritually denied basic sustenance for months and months on end.

    Reference Ancel Keys' Minnesota starvation study, where the idea of 'starvation mode' came from. Men who ate at a 50% caloric deficit for 6 months showed a 40% reduction in metabolism. They ate approximately 1500 calories per day; hardly what we'd consider being "ritually denied basic sustenance."

    Now, the idea of starvation mode has been greatly abused and misapplied (perhaps by the trainer in question,) but the research suggests it does indeed exist.

    THIS. Call it stalling your metabolism or whatever. It exists.
  • gleechick609
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    Answer:
    Great question! To start, I would like to clarify that eating 1200 calories to lose weight is fine for some people, and not others. It may be too low. So for those of you that are interested in calorie counting, you must check a program first like the one listed above, as the amount can be influenced with your activity level, your height, and your age.

    AKA: Eat 10-20% under your TDEE while creating a healthy deficit of diet and exercise! :) You're trainer is right. Just wish everyone else on this site would listen :)
  • s12carney
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    Thanks for putting that up there. I had heard this before in Weight Watchers, but hearing it with this explanation makes a lot of sense. Keep up the good work everyone.
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    Thank you for posting this , I was wondering the same thing. It was helpful .
  • bblonskidesigns
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    thank you! finally something explained so that we can all understand :)
  • bigalfantasy2004
    bigalfantasy2004 Posts: 176 Member
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    Thanks for the post OP! :smile:
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    Faeriegirl74 Posts: 187 Member
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    Thanks for sharing this! :smile:
  • luckykirstar
    luckykirstar Posts: 6 Member
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    Thank you! I've been a member her for along time but find I still yo-yo. I really enjoy working out and do it often...but felt that same way you did and did not eat back my calories. Looks I'll start tomorrow!! Thanks for posting =)
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    Awesome!
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  • QueChulaYo
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    Hey everyone,
    I know i have read over and over on here to eat back the calories you burn exercising and yes i have been. (most time) Even though i realy felt like it defeated the purpose of exercising.

    Anyways my boot camp instructor is also a personal trainer and right into nutrition so i emailed her and asked her opinon on the eating back calories.
    I copied her reply to anyone that is interested (it is a long reply) - if not interested in what she had to say please dont continue reading as i know there are a few on here who do not agree with eating back the calories not matter what is explained.

    Here is my question and her reply.

    Question:
    I am on a program online (www.myfitnesspal.com) I put in everything I eat and also mark down my calories burned each day through exercise.

    It is telling me to eat back my exercise calories I burned so my net does not fall below 1200 - which is my goal if I want to lose 2 lbs a week.
    They said if I only eat 1200 a day and burn off say 600 that is only giving me a calorie intake of 600 for the day.
    What do you suggest? I just hate to eat back all the calories I worked so hard to burn off – kinda defeats the purpose in my opinion?

    Answer:
    Great question! To start, I would like to clarify that eating 1200 calories to lose weight is fine for some people, and not others. It may be too low. So for those of you that are interested in calorie counting, you must check a program first like the one listed above, as the amount can be influenced with your activity level, your height, and your age.
    When you're eating 1200 calories per day you would likely lose weight without exercise. So when you add exercise in there, and burn another 600 calories, you leave your body only 600 calories to use for energy throughout your day. This is not good. Not only will this make you tired and quite possibly *****y, but your body will start going into starvation mode. This is a fact my friends! Our bodies are absolutely brilliant, and we are made to survive. This is what our bodies want, and will do anything to obtain. Therefore, when you eat too little, your body will hang onto everything you eat...just in case it doesn't get enough calories today, and/or the next day. When you eat just enough calories for your body, your body will be satisfied, and will burn the calories for energy. This is what you want because this will also make you feel energized, and it will feed the muscles we are working so hard to get :) Therefore, when you workout, yes you want to replace the calories lost, and you want to replace it with healthy food choices and not look at it as an excuse to hit the Toonie Tuesday fast food restaurant on your way home. Working out is awesome for losing weight because there is a calorie deficit, but more importantly, it helps you relieve stress so you don't stress eat, and it also helps you build lean muscle so your body is strong and burning calories at rest all day long. Remember, every pound of muscle you have on your body, you burn and extra 50-100 calories doing nothing per day! If you want to get this lean muscle, you must eat back a proper amount of calories after our workouts. So no, you are not defeating the purpose by eating back some of the calories lost during a workout.

    Another point I would like to make is that when people create a calorie deficit of course they're going to lose weight initially. You just need to be mindful how much of a deficit you've created. If it is too much of a deficit, you'll lose for a couple weeks, and you'll lose fast. The only thing is that it is not maintainable. You're body will start craving food like crazy, and when you start to feed yourself a proper amount of calories, your body will pack on pounds because it is scared that it will soon run into another famine, trying to survive on low calories. It will want to preserve the calories it is getting as a "safety net". Therefore, you want to lose weight by taking calories out in a smart way. This can simply be through healthy eating and exercise. Our workouts can burn anywhere from 300-800 calories per hour. This depends on how hard you work, your current weight, and the type of workout we do for that day. Another deficit you can create in a healthy way is through your food. Counting calories is a great way to show you portion control, so you start to learn what your body needs. I do believe that counting calories at the beginning of a weight loss journey is good as it teaches you about types of food and the calories they contain, along with the amount necessary for you. Portion control is great thing to learn in this day and age with "supersize this, and 2 for 1 that", because we have portion distortion when it comes to food. Nonetheless, if this is something that you can't find the time to do, or something you don't want to do forever, listening to your body is very important as well. If you're cutting back on your calories, working out, and are well hydrated but notice you're always tired, one of the reasons could be because you've cut out too many calories. Adding in an apple a day, or some cottage cheese could make the world of difference. Cookies don't usually fit the bill.

    Overall, being mindful of the types of foods you eat while working out, is likely going to work for some as well. Kicking the late night snacking can slash a couple hundred calories a week - or more! Switching from double double coffee to black can cut back calories, opting for an actual piece of fruit compared to a glass of juice can make a difference. Make small changes that cut back calories in a smart way....don't overdo it and put your body into starvation mode. It will be the start of habitual yo-yo dieting. Yikes! Balance it out so it is a lifestyle you can maintain :)

    Love the questions ladies - Let me know if you have any questions in regrads to the answer

    Awesome answer, thanks for sharing!