the myth, starvation mode, and dont eat before bed.
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Yes, I'm lovin' these articles. Breakfast is over rated, breakfast cereal companies are only trying to make money. I've reduced my breakfasts' and I'm feeling fine. well, most importantingly I'm not fainting at work on the morning shift. it's O.K to have a small breakfast. as for the:- eat a good dinner ever wondered why anorexics can't sleep at night.......they will wake-up at 2am because their bodies need food. and the calsium theroy:- there's no point drinking a huge glass of milk in one sitting because the body can't absorb it so the excess is turned to fat, I'm assuming. trick is, to drink milk or eat cheese in small amounts over the day.:drinker:
I wasn't aware of the cereal pitch. Another pitch is the "eat 6 meals a day" thing, that it speeds up your metabolism. That came from the meal replacement shakes.
LOL your back again spouting all this craziness, please give it up already
Here this actually came from a real MD not a internet proclaimed heath whatever your calling yourself.
The Truth About 6 Meals a Day for Weight Loss
Can eating more frequently help you lose weight?
By Kathleen M. Zelman, MPH, RD, LD
WebMD Expert Column
Three squares a day -- breakfast, lunch, and dinner -- is a way of life for many of us. But some diet experts believe more frequent meals could be better. Eating six small meals a day, they say, helps regulate blood sugar, control cravings and keep hunger at bay.
As long as you choose the right foods and watch portion sizes, "grazing" throughout the day can help you lose weight while keeping you energized. But it's not for everyone -- especially if you have trouble controlling the amount you eat or if you don’t have time to plan and prepare and healthy snacks and meals.
The Truth About 6 Meals a Day
Hunger is a dieter’s worst enemy. That gnawing feeling usually occurs between meals, when blood sugar levels drop. In theory, if you divide your daily calorie allotment into several small meals throughout the day, hunger won’t be an issue.
Jorge Cruise’s The 3 Hour Diet is one diet book that claims frequent small meals can rev up your metabolism and help you burn calories. But while eating more frequently seems to help some people control hunger, the scientific evidence indicates that there's nothing magical about it. Ultimately, what matters most is reducing your total calories -- regardless of the number of meals or snacks.
A review in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was no real weight loss advantage to eating six meals a day. Another study, in the British Journal of Nutrition, found no weight loss difference between dieters who ate their calories in three meals daily or six meals a day.
What Should You Eat?
Eating more frequently could actually mean less nutrition and more calories if you don’t carefully plan out your snacks and meals.
Calorie requirements are determined by age, sex, physical activity levels, and weight loss goals. Most adults need about 1,500-2,200 calories for weight loss, unless they're very active. (See WebMD's Food and Fitness Planner to calculate your own calorie requirements.)
For maximum satisfaction, each mini-meal or snack should include lean- or low-fat protein, fiber, and a little healthy fat. For good nutrition, try to include at least one fruit or veggie in each mini-meal.
Good protein sources include lean meat, seafood, low-fat dairy (yogurt, cheese, milk), eggs, nuts, beans, and soy. Fiber-rich foods include whole grains, fruits, vegetables, and beans. Healthy fats come from vegetable oils, avocados, nuts, and fatty fish.
Here are some healthy mini-meals that are easy to prepare:
An apple with a piece of cheese and light popcorn
Egg, slice of whole-wheat toast, and half a grapefruit
Grilled chicken sandwich with veggies
Whole-grain roll with peanut butter and banana
Hummus, whole-grain crackers, and baby carrots
Smoothie made with yogurt, fruit, and juice
Waldorf salad and half a turkey sandwich
What Should You Eat? continued...
If you want to lose weight eating several times a day, you must control your portions. Be careful of foods that are easy to overeat, like cheese, pasta, nuts and any of your favorite foods. WebMD’s Portion Size Plate tool can show you what correct serving sizes look like.
Eating six mini-meals a day can be a challenge when you're away from home or otherwise not preparing your own meals. When eating out, opt for simply prepared foods without sauces. To keep portions in check, take home part of your food for another meal, or simply order a salad and an appetizer.
6 Meals a Day: The Bottom Line
Eating smaller meals more often provides an excellent opportunity to eat a healthier diet. Shifting your focus from high-calorie snacks to balanced mini-meals could be exactly what you need to help you whittle your waistline.
But eating three squares is also a perfectly healthy way to eat and lose weight. So choose the meal plan that works best for your lifestyle. As long as your meals are well-distributed through the day, and you never go more than 4-5 hours without food, you can reach your weight loss goals with three, four, five, or six meals a day.
Kathleen Zelman, MPH, RD, is director of nutrition for WebMD. Her opinions and conclusions are her own.
Now read carefully and not into what you are reading and STOP! polluting the forums with your half *kitten* knowledge of a subject. Also the warrior diet has been around for a while didnt just pop up when you invented it on this site.0 -
Yes, I'm lovin' these articles. Breakfast is over rated, breakfast cereal companies are only trying to make money. I've reduced my breakfasts' and I'm feeling fine. well, most importantingly I'm not fainting at work on the morning shift. it's O.K to have a small breakfast. as for the:- eat a good dinner ever wondered why anorexics can't sleep at night.......they will wake-up at 2am because their bodies need food. and the calsium theroy:- there's no point drinking a huge glass of milk in one sitting because the body can't absorb it so the excess is turned to fat, I'm assuming. trick is, to drink milk or eat cheese in small amounts over the day.:drinker:
I wasn't aware of the cereal pitch. Another pitch is the "eat 6 meals a day" thing, that it speeds up your metabolism. That came from the meal replacement shakes.
LOL your back again spouting all this craziness, please give it up already
Here this actually came from a real MD not a internet proclaimed heath whatever your calling yourself.
The Truth About 6 Meals a Day for Weight Loss
Can eating more frequently help you lose weight?
By Kathleen M. Zelman, MPH, RD, LD
WebMD Expert Column
Three squares a day -- breakfast, lunch, and dinner -- is a way of life for many of us. But some diet experts believe more frequent meals could be better. Eating six small meals a day, they say, helps regulate blood sugar, control cravings and keep hunger at bay.
As long as you choose the right foods and watch portion sizes, "grazing" throughout the day can help you lose weight while keeping you energized. But it's not for everyone -- especially if you have trouble controlling the amount you eat or if you don’t have time to plan and prepare and healthy snacks and meals.
The Truth About 6 Meals a Day
Hunger is a dieter’s worst enemy. That gnawing feeling usually occurs between meals, when blood sugar levels drop. In theory, if you divide your daily calorie allotment into several small meals throughout the day, hunger won’t be an issue.
Jorge Cruise’s The 3 Hour Diet is one diet book that claims frequent small meals can rev up your metabolism and help you burn calories. But while eating more frequently seems to help some people control hunger, the scientific evidence indicates that there's nothing magical about it. Ultimately, what matters most is reducing your total calories -- regardless of the number of meals or snacks.
A review in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was no real weight loss advantage to eating six meals a day. Another study, in the British Journal of Nutrition, found no weight loss difference between dieters who ate their calories in three meals daily or six meals a day.
What Should You Eat?
Eating more frequently could actually mean less nutrition and more calories if you don’t carefully plan out your snacks and meals.
Calorie requirements are determined by age, sex, physical activity levels, and weight loss goals. Most adults need about 1,500-2,200 calories for weight loss, unless they're very active. (See WebMD's Food and Fitness Planner to calculate your own calorie requirements.)
For maximum satisfaction, each mini-meal or snack should include lean- or low-fat protein, fiber, and a little healthy fat. For good nutrition, try to include at least one fruit or veggie in each mini-meal.
Good protein sources include lean meat, seafood, low-fat dairy (yogurt, cheese, milk), eggs, nuts, beans, and soy. Fiber-rich foods include whole grains, fruits, vegetables, and beans. Healthy fats come from vegetable oils, avocados, nuts, and fatty fish.
Here are some healthy mini-meals that are easy to prepare:
An apple with a piece of cheese and light popcorn
Egg, slice of whole-wheat toast, and half a grapefruit
Grilled chicken sandwich with veggies
Whole-grain roll with peanut butter and banana
Hummus, whole-grain crackers, and baby carrots
Smoothie made with yogurt, fruit, and juice
Waldorf salad and half a turkey sandwich
What Should You Eat? continued...
If you want to lose weight eating several times a day, you must control your portions. Be careful of foods that are easy to overeat, like cheese, pasta, nuts and any of your favorite foods. WebMD’s Portion Size Plate tool can show you what correct serving sizes look like.
Eating six mini-meals a day can be a challenge when you're away from home or otherwise not preparing your own meals. When eating out, opt for simply prepared foods without sauces. To keep portions in check, take home part of your food for another meal, or simply order a salad and an appetizer.
6 Meals a Day: The Bottom Line
Eating smaller meals more often provides an excellent opportunity to eat a healthier diet. Shifting your focus from high-calorie snacks to balanced mini-meals could be exactly what you need to help you whittle your waistline.
But eating three squares is also a perfectly healthy way to eat and lose weight. So choose the meal plan that works best for your lifestyle. As long as your meals are well-distributed through the day, and you never go more than 4-5 hours without food, you can reach your weight loss goals with three, four, five, or six meals a day.
Kathleen Zelman, MPH, RD, is director of nutrition for WebMD. Her opinions and conclusions are her own.
Now read carefully and not into what you are reading and STOP! polluting the forums with your half *kitten* knowledge of a subject. Also the warrior diet has been around for a while didnt just pop up when you invented it on this site.
Great advice man, tell people to eat multiple times a day causing spikes in insulin which stores fat. The purpose of this 6 meals a day thing is to stop people from being hungry? Hunger causes releases of Growth hormone, which burns a lot of fat.
So once again, talk what you know, don't be a parrot.
Since "YOUR AUTHORITY" is right. Here is the verifying facts that hunger increases growth hormone.
http://endo.endojournals.org/content/145/8/3731.abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2824650/
Do I really have to post about insulin storing fat, and eating multiple times a day increases insulin? It's common sense now.0 -
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LOL your back again spouting all this craziness, please give it up already
Here this actually came from a real MD not a internet proclaimed heath whatever your calling yourself.
The Truth About 6 Meals a Day for Weight Loss
Can eating more frequently help you lose weight?
By Kathleen M. Zelman, MPH, RD, LD
WebMD Expert Column
Three squares a day -- breakfast, lunch, and dinner -- is a way of life for many of us. But some diet experts believe more frequent meals could be better. Eating six small meals a day, they say, helps regulate blood sugar, control cravings and keep hunger at bay.
As long as you choose the right foods and watch portion sizes, "grazing" throughout the day can help you lose weight while keeping you energized. But it's not for everyone -- especially if you have trouble controlling the amount you eat or if you don’t have time to plan and prepare and healthy snacks and meals.
The Truth About 6 Meals a Day
Hunger is a dieter’s worst enemy. That gnawing feeling usually occurs between meals, when blood sugar levels drop. In theory, if you divide your daily calorie allotment into several small meals throughout the day, hunger won’t be an issue.
Jorge Cruise’s The 3 Hour Diet is one diet book that claims frequent small meals can rev up your metabolism and help you burn calories. But while eating more frequently seems to help some people control hunger, the scientific evidence indicates that there's nothing magical about it. Ultimately, what matters most is reducing your total calories -- regardless of the number of meals or snacks.
A review in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was no real weight loss advantage to eating six meals a day. Another study, in the British Journal of Nutrition, found no weight loss difference between dieters who ate their calories in three meals daily or six meals a day.
What Should You Eat?
Eating more frequently could actually mean less nutrition and more calories if you don’t carefully plan out your snacks and meals.
Calorie requirements are determined by age, sex, physical activity levels, and weight loss goals. Most adults need about 1,500-2,200 calories for weight loss, unless they're very active. (See WebMD's Food and Fitness Planner to calculate your own calorie requirements.)
For maximum satisfaction, each mini-meal or snack should include lean- or low-fat protein, fiber, and a little healthy fat. For good nutrition, try to include at least one fruit or veggie in each mini-meal.
Good protein sources include lean meat, seafood, low-fat dairy (yogurt, cheese, milk), eggs, nuts, beans, and soy. Fiber-rich foods include whole grains, fruits, vegetables, and beans. Healthy fats come from vegetable oils, avocados, nuts, and fatty fish.
Here are some healthy mini-meals that are easy to prepare:
An apple with a piece of cheese and light popcorn
Egg, slice of whole-wheat toast, and half a grapefruit
Grilled chicken sandwich with veggies
Whole-grain roll with peanut butter and banana
Hummus, whole-grain crackers, and baby carrots
Smoothie made with yogurt, fruit, and juice
Waldorf salad and half a turkey sandwich
What Should You Eat? continued...
If you want to lose weight eating several times a day, you must control your portions. Be careful of foods that are easy to overeat, like cheese, pasta, nuts and any of your favorite foods. WebMD’s Portion Size Plate tool can show you what correct serving sizes look like.
Eating six mini-meals a day can be a challenge when you're away from home or otherwise not preparing your own meals. When eating out, opt for simply prepared foods without sauces. To keep portions in check, take home part of your food for another meal, or simply order a salad and an appetizer.
6 Meals a Day: The Bottom Line
Eating smaller meals more often provides an excellent opportunity to eat a healthier diet. Shifting your focus from high-calorie snacks to balanced mini-meals could be exactly what you need to help you whittle your waistline.
But eating three squares is also a perfectly healthy way to eat and lose weight. So choose the meal plan that works best for your lifestyle. As long as your meals are well-distributed through the day, and you never go more than 4-5 hours without food, you can reach your weight loss goals with three, four, five, or six meals a day.
Kathleen Zelman, MPH, RD, is director of nutrition for WebMD. Her opinions and conclusions are her own.
Now read carefully and not into what you are reading and STOP! polluting the forums with your half *kitten* knowledge of a subject. Also the warrior diet has been around for a while didnt just pop up when you invented it on this site.
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Great advice man, tell people to eat multiple times a day causing spikes in insulin which stores fat. The purpose of this 6 meals a day thing is to stop people from being hungry? Hunger causes releases of Growth hormone, which burns a lot of fat.
So once again, talk what you know, don't be a parrot.
Since "YOUR AUTHORITY" is right. Here is the verifying facts that hunger increases growth hormone.
http://endo.endojournals.org/content/145/8/3731.abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2824650/
Do I really have to post about insulin storing fat, and eating multiple times a day increases insulin? It's common sense now.
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So explain to me what spikes makes you insulin spike eating correct? <
eating in a large amount makes your insulin spike twice as much.
Also if there is someone that has a PHD I would much rather take a suggestion from them then a self proclaimed fitness expert.
You also want to talk about HGH right well here is what.
Effects of growth hormone on the tissues of the body can generally be described as anabolic (building up). Like most other protein hormones, GH acts by interacting with a specific receptor on the surface of cells.
Increased height during childhood is the most widely known effect of GH. Height appears to be stimulated by at least two mechanisms:
Because polypeptide hormones are not fat-soluble, they cannot penetrate sarcolemma. Thus, GH exerts some of its effects by binding to receptors on target cells, where it activates the MAPK/ERK pathway. Through this mechanism GH directly stimulates division and multiplication of chondrocytes of cartilage.
GH also stimulates, through the JAK-STAT signaling pathway, the production of insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1, formerly known as somatomedin C), a hormone homologous to proinsulin. The liver is a major target organ of GH for this process and is the principal site of IGF-1 production. IGF-1 has growth-stimulating effects on a wide variety of tissues. Additional IGF-1 is generated within target tissues, making it what appears to be both an endocrine and an autocrine/paracrine hormone. IGF-1 also has stimulatory effects on osteoblast and chondrocyte activity to promote bone growth.
In addition to increasing height in children and adolescents, growth hormone has many other effects on the body:
Increases calcium retention, and strengthens and increases the mineralization of bone
Increases muscle mass through sarcomere hyperplasia
Promotes lipolysis
Increases protein synthesis
Stimulates the growth of all internal organs excluding the brain <
This might be the reason you are grasping what im telling you lack of GH
Plays a role in homeostasis
Reduces liver uptake of glucose
Promotes gluconeogenesis in the liver
Contributes to the maintenance and function of pancreatic islets
Stimulates the immune system
Is there anything else you would like me to spell out for you? please keep the non-sense coming.
I forgot to include info on insulin spike you are correct eating does cause your insulin to spike but depending on your diet. If your frequent small meals are loaded with nothing but sugars and carbs, then yes its bad for you. Your body breaks down carbs through metabolic processes to make the carbs into sugar (glucose), then releases insulin to "tell" the body to store those sugars. If you eat the refined sugar (i.e. candy bars, cookies (seen you eat them) then those earlier metabolic processes are bypassed and your body gets flooded quickly with insulin. Under most circumstances, your body is able to handle this insulin spike, but frequently eating sugar and carbs causes too many insulin spikes and could lead to diabetes as your beta cells get burned out (how fast your beta cells burn out is genetic ; some faster than others). Oh, and your beta cells can never regenerate naturally once they burn out.
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to the guy who typed a lot. Yes, you want insulin spike at the right time, when your glycogen stores are low, not when they're full. That's why i eat one time a day, in the evening.0
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to the guy who typed a lot. Yes, you want insulin spike at the right time, when your glycogen stores are low, not when they're full. That's why i eat one time a day, in the evening.
You obviously are reading what is type but doesnt seem like any of its sinking in, plan and simple your body adapts to insulin spikes and no matter when you eat if you eat to many sugary or carb loaded foods at once it causes your body to store them as fat thus causing NO weight LOSS at all and is a good way to start you way down the road of diabetes if you do this for a prolonged time.
JUST INCASE YOU MISSED THE LAST PART on need to reread it here it is again. Please read it then STOP read it again and then think very carefully about what you post next.
I forgot to include info on insulin spike you are correct eating does cause your insulin to spike but depending on your diet. If your frequent small meals are loaded with nothing but sugars and carbs, then yes its bad for you. Your body breaks down carbs through metabolic processes to make the carbs into sugar (glucose), then releases insulin to "tell" the body to store those sugars. If you eat the refined sugar (i.e. candy bars, cookies (seen you eat them) then those earlier metabolic processes are bypassed and your body gets flooded quickly with insulin. Under most circumstances, your body is able to handle this insulin spike, but frequently eating sugar and carbs causes too many insulin spikes and could lead to diabetes as your beta cells get burned out (how fast your beta cells burn out is genetic ; some faster than others). Oh, and your beta cells can never regenerate naturally once they burn out.
You are hurting your body and i feel bad for you that you actually believe that this is a viable way to loose weight and hope as a healthy person myself cause stop the spread of false or partial misleading information like this.0 -
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Cris not once have i said "don't eat." I am against long term fasting. That doesn't mean I don't believe in it. I wouldn't long term fast to lose weight. Somedays I eat 3000 calories within 1hr, with peanut butter cups, and cookies. I'll classify this as eating whatever i want. If people read this and think "oh he eats whatever he wants all the time" no i don't. I have specific days for certain biochemical goals.
In your defense cris. I also think a big part of it, it's for human nature to prolong their life span. Throughout time this has been true.
Please aware us on what "biochemical goals" are served by your eating "3000 calories within 1 hr, with peanut butter cups, and cookies".0 -
glad to see I'm not the only one who "ate back" exercise calories and gained. before MFP, i ate 1200 calories whether I exercised or not, which i did religiously every day and still do, and consisently lost weight. with MFP, it adds my exercise calories back in and i'm allowed to eat even more calories which i caught myself doing. i gained weight! how frustrating! i'll keep using MVP but i'm not allowing myself extra food according to calories burned during exercise.0
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<---- this is what eating 6 times a day might do to you....
It might be possible to get better results doing a form of IF.
LOL.
Ok. So, I follow tried and true principles. I eat and work out in a way that makes sense intuitively. I get predictable results, which I have been happy with. But let me drop everything now and switch up to IF because somebody says "it might be possible to get better results".
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Cris not once have i said "don't eat." I am against long term fasting. That doesn't mean I don't believe in it. I wouldn't long term fast to lose weight. Somedays I eat 3000 calories within 1hr, with peanut butter cups, and cookies. I'll classify this as eating whatever i want. If people read this and think "oh he eats whatever he wants all the time" no i don't. I have specific days for certain biochemical goals.j
In your defense cris. I also think a big part of it, it's for human nature to prolong their life span. Throughout time this has been true.
Please aware us on what "biochemical goals" are served by your eating "3000 calories within 1 hr, with peanut butter cups, and cookies".
okay, since i dont eat during the day my gh levels are high and my insulin is low. And my glycogen stores are low. I
Eat lower high protein 2 days in a row depleting my glyocen stores. On day 3 the meal of mine you posted is to restore glycogen stores. Hence the tortilla, peanut butter cup, and the juice. This obviously increases insulin, which restores my muscle state.
And regards to the other post. By the things you said i know you didnt know eating excess caqlories also increase insulin. Regardless of the macro nutrient. In summary you say im no expert but the nation academy of sports medicine qulificaton
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Okay, obviously some people aren't reading this very carefully. Low caloric intake "OVER TIME" does decreasing muscle mass, never said It didn't. About the "studies" i am not going to go and paste the studies of over 14yrs of experience. Why do you need scientific studies to tell you something. For example, If you eat a lot, do you get tired of energized??? if a scientific study says "it energizes the body" are you going to believe it? Does it make sense being hungry is stress? Does it make sense that your body recuperates and repairs itself at night? DOes it make sense that, when you're hungry your body isn't processing food and you have more energy??? I don't need scientific studies to tell me anything. I go by personal experience, not someone who has been "taught" to read books, and believe them, just because "someone said so"
Well maybe what works for you doesn't work for others. I never eat less than 50% of the calories to maintain my current weight. and when you eat 'a lot' of course you feel sluggish. But when you eat when you are hungry, make healthy choices, and eat less calories than you need to maintain, you lose the majority of pounds in body fat. And yes, food=energy. I am pretty sure if it didn't, we would not have to eat... but, thats just a "theory"
Does your biochemical response change if you eat A LOT or a little??? NO. still triggers the parasympathetic nervous system. Which is not beneficial to weight loss.
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I've been following a member's blog on here. She eats aprox 800 calories a day and works out to what she says is 700 calories burned. She then finds she has not lost any weight and wonders why. I consider her to be a perfect role model for what starvation mode really does.
I'll pass and continue eating.
Exactly. Glad to see most people are disagreeing with mr. sports medicine genius over here. 800 calories a day is about what the starving kids in africa are eating daily... Most of us have seen their pictures and agree they look pretty damn sick-not healthy or energized!0 -
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I've been following a member's blog on here. She eats aprox 800 calories a day and works out to what she says is 700 calories burned. She then finds she has not lost any weight and wonders why. I consider her to be a perfect role model for what starvation mode really does.
I'll pass and continue eating.
Exactly. Glad to see most people are disagreeing with mr. sports medicine genius over here. 800 calories a day is about what the starving kids in africa are eating daily... Most of us have seen their pictures and agree they look pretty damn sick-not healthy or energized!
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I've been following a member's blog on here. She eats aprox 800 calories a day and works out to what she says is 700 calories burned. She then finds she has not lost any weight and wonders why. I consider her to be a perfect role model for what starvation mode really does.
I'll pass and continue eating.
Exactly. Glad to see most people are disagreeing with mr. sports medicine genius over here. 800 calories a day is about what the starving kids in africa are eating daily... Most of us have seen their pictures and agree they look pretty damn sick-not healthy or energized!
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I've been following a member's blog on here. She eats aprox 800 calories a day and works out to what she says is 700 calories burned. She then finds she has not lost any weight and wonders why. I consider her to be a perfect role model for what starvation mode really does.
I'll pass and continue eating.
Exactly. Glad to see most people are disagreeing with mr. sports medicine genius over here. 800 calories a day is about what the starving kids in africa are eating daily... Most of us have seen their pictures and agree they look pretty damn sick-not healthy or energized!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10204826
Thank you for informing me with your outdate article. (published in 1999! over TEN years old...) Science, including sports medicine and nutrition, have come leaps and bounds since I was nine years old. Like I said, the children in africa are consuming about 800 calories a day on average and they are not healthy. Next you are going to tell me that diet pills are a great idea...
Oh and btw your whole human growth hormone argument... HGH is ALSO found in steroids... do you think its a good idea to USE steroids as well?
And, by consuming a minimum of 1200 calories a day, and sometimes more, I am losing weight at a very rapid speed and also... I DO feel hungry when I eat. I don't eat unless I feel hunger. So bizarre how you can do that but still eat a reasonable amount of food, not 800 calories per day
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I think its different for everyone, especially women on eating back exercise calories. I don't eat all of them back, but I do eat a little more on the days I expend a higher amount of calories, but I would definitely gain if I ate all of them, or at least not lose my weekly goal. I think age, body type and exercise type all plays a factor into it as well. Men typically need a bit more after they work out, at least I have witnessed that with my boyfriend who is in excellent shape.glad to see I'm not the only one who "ate back" exercise calories and gained. before MFP, i ate 1200 calories whether I exercised or not, which i did religiously every day and still do, and consisently lost weight. with MFP, it adds my exercise calories back in and i'm allowed to eat even more calories which i caught myself doing. i gained weight! how frustrating! i'll keep using MVP but i'm not allowing myself extra food according to calories burned during exercise.0
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Thank you for informing me with your outdate article. (published in 1999! over TEN years old...) Science, including sports medicine and nutrition, have come leaps and bounds since I was nine years old.
Heart disease and diabetes have increased in the last 10yrs.
Why are steroids unhealthy? HGH isn't found in steroids from my understanding. You can drown in 1 inch of water, or suffocate with too much oxygen.
Oh and btw your whole human growth hormone argument... HGH is ALSO found in steroids... do you think its a good idea to USE steroids as well?And, by consuming a minimum of 1200 calories a day, and sometimes more, I am losing weight at a very rapid speed and also... I DO feel hungry when I eat. I don't eat unless I feel hunger. So bizarre how you can do that but still eat a reasonable amount of food, not 800 calories per day
Today I ate almost 5000 calories a day. Am I deprived? no. Once again, I never recommended an 800 calorie diet. It's just to prove that you can lose weight on a VLCD despite the common bs about starvation mode. Yes Low calorie diets are unhealthy, I completely agree on that. You can lose weight eating throughout the day. I never said you couldn't. Its the most common approach to weight loss. You can get better results that are more health promoting eating a different way. That's all I am trying to say.
As per the specification of this topic. It's about starvation mode. Which I have already discussed is a lie. It's about improper macro nutrient ratios. If you have a high carb diet, and ate low calories, you are more than likely to fall in to the starvation mode myth. The theory is "you need a certain amount of calories so you don't hit starvation mode" I already mentioned how that is false.0 -
Thank you for informing me with your outdate article. (published in 1999! over TEN years old...) Science, including sports medicine and nutrition, have come leaps and bounds since I was nine years old.
Heart disease and diabetes have increased in the last 10yrs.
Why are steroids unhealthy? HGH isn't found in steroids from my understanding. You can drown in 1 inch of water, or suffocate with too much oxygen.
Oh and btw your whole human growth hormone argument... HGH is ALSO found in steroids... do you think its a good idea to USE steroids as well?And, by consuming a minimum of 1200 calories a day, and sometimes more, I am losing weight at a very rapid speed and also... I DO feel hungry when I eat. I don't eat unless I feel hunger. So bizarre how you can do that but still eat a reasonable amount of food, not 800 calories per day
Today I ate almost 5000 calories a day. Am I deprived? no. Once again, I never recommended an 800 calorie diet. It's just to prove that you can lose weight on a VLCD despite the common bs about starvation mode. Yes Low calorie diets are unhealthy, I completely agree on that. You can lose weight eating throughout the day. I never said you couldn't. Its the most common approach to weight loss. You can get better results that are more health promoting eating a different way. That's all I am trying to say.
As per the specification of this topic. It's about starvation mode. Which I have already discussed is a lie. It's about improper macro nutrient ratios. If you have a high carb diet, and ate low calories, you are more than likely to fall in to the starvation mode myth. The theory is "you need a certain amount of calories so you don't hit starvation mode" I already mentioned how that is false.
I think I see what you are trying to say, I just don't think you are very good an coming up with credible arguments. And yes, steroids are bad and have very serious side effects. Medicating to lose weight and gain muscle is an idiotic idea. Especially when you experience lack of libido, acne, emotional outbursts (especially in the form of rage), and other not so pleasant side effects. And yes, HGH is a very popular steroid, and is sold on the black market. I will not flood you with articles because of this handy tool called google. I read your profile and you said it yourself you have issues with keeping weight off after you lose it... Maybe it is because your dieting method is simply not working. I can't say for certain I will keep the weight I have lost off once I have reached my goal because I have never attempted weight loss before - but I do know it seems absolutely like a reasonable and seemingly easy task by eating when I am hungry, stopping when I am full, making healthier choices and making exercise a part of my new lifestyle. Yes heart disease and diabetes- and other obesity related diseases- have certainly increased in the United States and other countries in the past ten years- but so have trendy crash diets that cause the yo-yo effect of weight gain and muscle loss. There are many, many factors that have caused that increase and I would be willing to place money on a bet that it has absolutely zero to do with your incredibly outdated and irrelevant article. I also am well aware that of course you will lose weight on a diet that extremely low in calories. Have you seen someone suffering from anorexia? They are extremely thin. But also malnourished. I am done arguing with you considering you actually rhetorically inquired about steroid use, because its hilarious to me you actually find nothing wrong with using them. Please, do your 800 calorie/day diet you sent me, show me results, and then keep the weight off for a minimum of 1 year. If you can do this and look healthy, I will bow to you sir.0 -
I think I see what you are trying to say, I just don't think you are very good an coming up with credible arguments. And yes, steroids are bad and have very serious side effects. Medicating to lose weight and gain muscle is an idiotic idea. Especially when you experience lack of libido, acne, emotional outbursts (especially in the form of rage), and other not so pleasant side effects. And yes, HGH is a very popular steroid, and is sold on the black market. I will not flood you with articles because of this handy tool called google. I read your profile and you said it yourself you have issues with keeping weight off after you lose it... Maybe it is because your dieting method is simply not working. I can't say for certain I will keep the weight I have lost off once I have reached my goal because I have never attempted weight loss before - but I do know it seems absolutely like a reasonable and seemingly easy task by eating when I am hungry, stopping when I am full, making healthier choices and making exercise a part of my new lifestyle. Yes heart disease and diabetes- and other obesity related diseases- have certainly increased in the United States and other countries in the past ten years- but so have trendy crash diets that cause the yo-yo effect of weight gain and muscle loss. There are many, many factors that have caused that increase and I would be willing to place money on a bet that it has absolutely zero to do with your incredibly outdated and irrelevant article. I also am well aware that of course you will lose weight on a diet that extremely low in calories. Have you seen someone suffering from anorexia? They are extremely thin. But also malnourished. I am done arguing with you considering you actually rhetorically inquired about steroid use, because its hilarious to me you actually find nothing wrong with using them. Please, do your 800 calorie/day diet you sent me, show me results, and then keep the weight off for a minimum of 1 year. If you can do this and look healthy, I will bow to you sir.
Thank you.
Here's the problem though...you can't argue with an idiot...because they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Intelligent people eventually give up...and then the idiot that's posting the misinformation ends up with free reign to do and say as he pleases, post his garbage information wherever he pleases, and in the end, confuse and possibly hurt a lot of innocent people who are just trying to lose weight in a comfortable, safe manner.
In my opinion, this is where moderators should step in. When it comes to peoples safety...it should be bannable. I've been an admin/moderator on MANY automotive forums, as well as bladesmithing forums. Each forum I was with, implemented a clause into the agreement that if you were banned, and you tried to rejoin under a false name or email...you could be sued for stupid amounts of money for breaking the agreement.
it worked.
To Ascriminal:
Go back and read all your posts. You change your stance so many times it's not even funny...and I don't care if YOU think you have it straight in YOUR head...your method of communicating it to others is flawed at best. One second you're exclaiming that starvation mode isn't real...then that it's real but misunderstood...then that it's a lie...wtf man? Do YOU even know what the hell you're talking about?
Once again...a plea to the moderators to please do something about this guy?
Cris0 -
I think I see what you are trying to say, I just don't think you are very good an coming up with credible arguments. And yes, steroids are bad and have very serious side effects. Medicating to lose weight and gain muscle is an idiotic idea. Especially when you experience lack of libido, acne, emotional outbursts (especially in the form of rage), and other not so pleasant side effects. And yes, HGH is a very popular steroid, and is sold on the black market. I will not flood you with articles because of this handy tool called google. I read your profile and you said it yourself you have issues with keeping weight off after you lose it... Maybe it is because your dieting method is simply not working. I can't say for certain I will keep the weight I have lost off once I have reached my goal because I have never attempted weight loss before - but I do know it seems absolutely like a reasonable and seemingly easy task by eating when I am hungry, stopping when I am full, making healthier choices and making exercise a part of my new lifestyle. Yes heart disease and diabetes- and other obesity related diseases- have certainly increased in the United States and other countries in the past ten years- but so have trendy crash diets that cause the yo-yo effect of weight gain and muscle loss. There are many, many factors that have caused that increase and I would be willing to place money on a bet that it has absolutely zero to do with your incredibly outdated and irrelevant article. I also am well aware that of course you will lose weight on a diet that extremely low in calories. Have you seen someone suffering from anorexia? They are extremely thin. But also malnourished. I am done arguing with you considering you actually rhetorically inquired about steroid use, because its hilarious to me you actually find nothing wrong with using them. Please, do your 800 calorie/day diet you sent me, show me results, and then keep the weight off for a minimum of 1 year. If you can do this and look healthy, I will bow to you sir.
Thank you.
Here's the problem though...you can't argue with an idiot...because they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Intelligent people eventually give up...and then the idiot that's posting the misinformation ends up with free reign to do and say as he pleases, post his garbage information wherever he pleases, and in the end, confuse and possibly hurt a lot of innocent people who are just trying to lose weight in a comfortable, safe manner.
In my opinion, this is where moderators should step in. When it comes to peoples safety...it should be bannable. I've been an admin/moderator on MANY automotive forums, as well as bladesmithing forums. Each forum I was with, implemented a clause into the agreement that if you were banned, and you tried to rejoin under a false name or email...you could be sued for stupid amounts of money for breaking the agreement.
it worked.
To Ascriminal:
Go back and read all your posts. You change your stance so many times it's not even funny...and I don't care if YOU think you have it straight in YOUR head...your method of communicating it to others is flawed at best. One second you're exclaiming that starvation mode isn't real...then that it's real but misunderstood...then that it's a lie...wtf man? Do YOU even know what the hell you're talking about?
Once again...a plea to the moderators to please do something about this guy?
Cris
Nope, there's no arguing with some people. Especially when there are no sources to back it up! And Ladyhawk did a good job listing sources and intelligent arguments.... If anyone listens to some of the advice, "some people" have given from this thread - so help them....0 -
Nope, there's no arguing with some people. Especially when there are no sources to back it up! And Ladyhawk did a good job listing sources and intelligent arguments.... If anyone listens to some of the advice, "some people" have given from this thread - so help them....
Here are my sources, over 13yrs in the health and fitness field, NASM certification course (national academy of sports medicine Personal Trainer ) and here are some links for you.
fasting burns 5 times more fat.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12051710
http://jap.physiology.org/content/99/6/2128.full
resistance training and fasting, weight is preserved, insulin is down
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/22/5/684
Weight training prevents muscle loss on a low calorie diet
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10204826
Multiple feedings has no effect on the BMR or Active metabolic rate
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8399092
gherlin triggers Growth Hormone (gherlin is the signal for hunger)
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/293/3/E819.full0 -
Cris the way starvation mode is a "MYTH" it's not based on your caloric in take, it's based on your macro nutrient ratios. I stated that a few times. You can eat a low caloric diet and not go in to the supposed starvation mode.0
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