People judge - that's just "reality" - BULL****!

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  • Scott613
    Scott613 Posts: 2,317 Member
    You have to figure out what works best for your body type and metabolism, for your stage in life, and go from there. That, to me, is the biggest battle in the weight loss game....figuring out what your body does best and how to work with it.

    It's that simple!!!! Finding out how your body responds to what you do is key. Some people take longer than others to figure it out and some never do. Everybody is different
  • sequoialea
    sequoialea Posts: 26
    It's more complicated than just insulin.
    There are a whole load of hormones that regulate bodyweight, normal people remain the same age ajusted weight year in year out despite changes in eating, activity and so on because the body knows how much fat it wants to have around and will actively adjust intake and expenditure.

    Obesity is not one single thing, it can be caused by defects in any of the many hormones that regulate metabolism, leptin, ghrelin, insulin, adiponectin etc

    But yeah I agree. The whole attitude of "those fat lazy *kitten* just need to try harder" is not fair, we have a drive to eat which is just as strong as the drive to breath or go to the toilet, just that with eating we can "hold it" for longer, and some people who are miserable from constantly battling their panicking hungry bodies get angry at the people who they think aren't working as hard as them because they feel deprived. That's what I reckon.

    I look at my family, "morbidly" obese dad, overweight mum, gran had type II diabetes, brother (in his early 20s!) has type II diabetes... I hear about how only 1% of dieters manage to keep the weight off over 2 years and the ones that do, do so by continuing calorie restriction to below "normal" levels (that's right! They didn't go back up to a reasonable 2000 calories, they stayed on 1400 for the rest of their life) while still exercising significant amounts - and most of all they all were psychologically quite obsessive about it and frightened of regaining the weight to a degree that in a thinner person would be a mark of an eating disorder. THAT is the facts!

    Does it mean it's impossible to lose weight? I don't think so, moderate amounts of weightloss can be achieved reasonably easily by most people (the above scenario is for loss of 50-100 lbs). Beyond that, we're all learning more and more about the hormonal control of metabolism, I honestly believe we can have a breakthrough on this soon.

    There was a kid who lacked a functional gene to code for leptin, and while he was massively obese he was also suffering all the metabolic symptoms of starvation, his body thought he was not just semi-starving but starving. Then they supplemented leptin and he lost all the weight, lost the extreme appetite he had, and became like a normal kid.

    But people will say that's "excuses" or that only incredibly rare cases of obesity are caused by "real" problems, everyone else is a lazy fat gluttonous slob. Science ain't on your side.

    Yet I am still going to diet... even though I know it might mean I gain back even more when I get old and tired of policing every single morsel, but dammit I want a few years where I get to be pretty (and I want to be slightly calorifically deprived when I conceive my children because of the positive epigenetic effects that can have on the following generation, or the one after that).

    Thank you for hearing me. You are absolutely right that there is more involved than insulin. Other hormones and genes, and environmental factors like a drastic change in diet spurred by a famine or sudden shift in location, etc. all play into it.
  • tross0924
    tross0924 Posts: 909 Member
    If you don't understand the "why" then how can you truly understand how to correct the problem?

    I would encourage you to dig deeper than the why it's harder to lose weight right now because of Insulin / Carb sensitivity, and look at the "why" you got that way to begin with. And I would encourage you to take the lions share of the responsibility instead of believing that you are the victim in the scenario. Blaming the government for their poor diet recommendations, and blaming carbs and insulin for locking you into growth mode, is not as healthy as facing the hard truth about how you are the one actually perpetrating the crime against yourself.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,416 Member
    If you don't understand the "why" then how can you truly understand how to correct the problem?

    I would encourage you to dig deeper than the why it's harder to lose weight right now because of Insulin / Carb sensitivity, and look at the "why" you got that way to begin with. And I would encourage you to take the lions share of the responsibility instead of believing that you are the victim in the scenario. Blaming the government for their poor diet recommendations, and blaming carbs and insulin for locking you into growth mode, is not as healthy as facing the hard truth about how you are the one actually perpetrating the crime against yourself.

    THIS!!!!!!!!!! THIS ^^^^^.




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  • kjergens
    kjergens Posts: 9
    And what did you do? Did you in any way cut the amount of carbohydrates and/or sugars from your diet? If so, then I am sure that helped. And I am working on this - I am losing weight - so if that is the criticism of me, then it is unfounded.

    If you are referring to my post...I am not in any way criticizing you. I am simply saying...it's not as easy as people want to make it. Everybody's body responds differently. And if you figured out how your body responds by cutting your carbs/sugars, then good for you. Yes, that's what i had to do. Diabetes runs in my family, and at my age/weight, I was a prime candidate for being prediabetic. Plus you add the fact that I am premenopausal to the deal and on birth control, and boom, losing weight is an all out war. It is a winnable war, but it takes alot of diligence and cutting out things that most people can have in moderation with no problems. My body does not respond to sugars/carbs well...so I have to monitor it and make sure that I have the right balance. It's alot of freakin work, but it's worth it.

    I was not in anyway criticizing you. I just wanted to say to everyone...don't judge...everyone's different and their body is different!
  • kjergens
    kjergens Posts: 9
    You have to figure out what works best for your body type and metabolism, for your stage in life, and go from there. That, to me, is the biggest battle in the weight loss game....figuring out what your body does best and how to work with it.

    It's that simple!!!! Finding out how your body responds to what you do is key. Some people take longer than others to figure it out and some never do. Everybody is different

    Haha, I wouldn't say it's been 'that simple' at all. The last three years have been fraught with frustration at trying diets, exercising myself blue in the face, all to have the scale move .25 pounds a week, and then move back the next week. I diligently tracked, I diligently exercised...and around me people were losing weight and cheating on their diets!! But, I kept looking, researching, and finally found out that hey....my body doesn't process sugars and high GI carbs very well. I hate that it took that long, but the important thing is...I kept at it :)
  • Scott613
    Scott613 Posts: 2,317 Member
    You have to figure out what works best for your body type and metabolism, for your stage in life, and go from there. That, to me, is the biggest battle in the weight loss game....figuring out what your body does best and how to work with it.

    It's that simple!!!! Finding out how your body responds to what you do is key. Some people take longer than others to figure it out and some never do. Everybody is different

    Haha, I wouldn't say it's been 'that simple' at all. The last three years have been fraught with frustration at trying diets, exercising myself blue in the face, all to have the scale move .25 pounds a week, and then move back the next week. I diligently tracked, I diligently exercised...and around me people were losing weight and cheating on their diets!! But, I kept looking, researching, and finally found out that hey....my body doesn't process sugars and high GI carbs very well. I hate that it took that long, but the important thing is...I kept at it :)

    Like I said it takes some people longer than others to figure it out for themselves. Once you do it's simple because you found the answer so just stick to what works!
  • marie_2454
    marie_2454 Posts: 881 Member
    I enjoyed reading your post, but I don't agree with it.

    Ditto.

    Same here...
  • MsEmmy
    MsEmmy Posts: 254 Member
    Well agree or don't agree, can you tell me how fat accumulates in the body? Other than the simplistic answer of calories in/calories out? Can you offer another hypothesis?

    As far as trying, I am and I'm losing! I just refuse to take things at face value. I want to know why, how, what. Anyway, like I said, this site is set up with the calories in/calories out idea as its basis so I didn't expect a whole lot of support for my ideas.

    If you are interested in at least understanding where I am coming from, here are a couple of links:

    http://youtu.be/M6vpFV6Wkl4

    http://www.garytaubes.com/blog/

    And sorry for being judgmental of those who are judgmental - that's hypocritical of me.

    The (very simplistic) way I see it is that everyone has the same amount of fat cells, but if you eat tons of fatty food then you fill those cells up. If you reduce the amount of fat/ work out to burn it off, you reduce the size of the cells.

    I have only been doing this for a couple of months. I used to look at people who could run and think they had a different body to me, one that allowed them to run and made it harder for me. Then I started C25K and you know what? I can run. And soon I will be able to run further. Same with weight loss. I could blame my family for being big and say it's harder for me. I could look at my husband and say it's unfair that he can eat ANYTHING and never put weight on. But what made the difference was making sure I used more calories than I eat.
  • HMonsterX
    HMonsterX Posts: 3,000 Member
    People will judge. We know this. Be it rightly or wrongly, it happens.

    MOST overweight people, myself included, got that way due to eating too much crap and not exercising. Therefore, when you see anyone fat, the most logically conclusion, based on the statistical numbers, is that they just need to cut the cals and get off the couch, as this is the cause for most of them.

    Sure, for some it may not be that simple, but for the vast majority, it is. People always look for other reasons, other excuses, anything, rather than admit THEY are the ones to blame due to their lifestyle, nothing else.

    It's hard to admit what you are doing is the cause. But, once you do, its just up from there. I used to eat far too much crap, and barely left my computer. Its blindingly obvious to me NOW, but then, i just never really thought about it.

    So, to sum up...reality is majority. It may not be the reality of an individual case, but since we always go with the majority, its a reasonable judgement to assume a fat person is fat due to overeating and lack of exercise.
  • chevy88grl
    chevy88grl Posts: 3,937 Member
    It's more complicated than just insulin.
    There are a whole load of hormones that regulate bodyweight, normal people remain the same age ajusted weight year in year out despite changes in eating, activity and so on because the body knows how much fat it wants to have around and will actively adjust intake and expenditure.

    Obesity is not one single thing, it can be caused by defects in any of the many hormones that regulate metabolism, leptin, ghrelin, insulin, adiponectin etc

    But yeah I agree. The whole attitude of "those fat lazy *kitten* just need to try harder" is not fair, we have a drive to eat which is just as strong as the drive to breath or go to the toilet, just that with eating we can "hold it" for longer, and some people who are miserable from constantly battling their panicking hungry bodies get angry at the people who they think aren't working as hard as them because they feel deprived. That's what I reckon.

    I look at my family, "morbidly" obese dad, overweight mum, gran had type II diabetes, brother (in his early 20s!) has type II diabetes... I hear about how only 1% of dieters manage to keep the weight off over 2 years and the ones that do, do so by continuing calorie restriction to below "normal" levels (that's right! They didn't go back up to a reasonable 2000 calories, they stayed on 1400 for the rest of their life) while still exercising significant amounts - and most of all they all were psychologically quite obsessive about it and frightened of regaining the weight to a degree that in a thinner person would be a mark of an eating disorder. THAT is the facts!

    Does it mean it's impossible to lose weight? I don't think so, moderate amounts of weightloss can be achieved reasonably easily by most people (the above scenario is for loss of 50-100 lbs). Beyond that, we're all learning more and more about the hormonal control of metabolism, I honestly believe we can have a breakthrough on this soon.

    There was a kid who lacked a functional gene to code for leptin, and while he was massively obese he was also suffering all the metabolic symptoms of starvation, his body thought he was not just semi-starving but starving. Then they supplemented leptin and he lost all the weight, lost the extreme appetite he had, and became like a normal kid.

    But people will say that's "excuses" or that only incredibly rare cases of obesity are caused by "real" problems, everyone else is a lazy fat gluttonous slob. Science ain't on your side.

    Yet I am still going to diet... even though I know it might mean I gain back even more when I get old and tired of policing every single morsel, but dammit I want a few years where I get to be pretty (and I want to be slightly calorifically deprived when I conceive my children because of the positive epigenetic effects that can have on the following generation, or the one after that).

    I do not severely restrict my calories anymore. I know how many calories I need to eat and I eat them (and it is between 2200-2500 NET calories - definitely NOT restricted there!). I exercise 3 days a week (sometimes less if work and life get in the way). I've been at my original goal weight since Sept 2010. So, almost 1 year. I go to the gym not because I feel like I HAVE to go - I actually enjoy it now.

    I've learned what my body likes and doesn't like as I've traveled through this journey of weight loss. The weight will never come back because I know how to keep it off. I've learned (which is what this is supposed to be about - LEARNING what is best for you and your body!).
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    If it's too much insulin, and not poor diet/inactivity that causes obesity, how do you explain the diabetics whose bodies can't make insulin becoming obese?

    The entire original post really set a tone of "I'm fat, I'm genetically predisposed to be fat, so I'm just going to keep being fat." I don't judge people for being overweight, I judge people who make excuses about it and don't do anything about it.
  • PANZERIA
    PANZERIA Posts: 471 Member
    I can understand the reason for the post, but I don't agree how personal you're taking the comments.

    The thing with western culture is that no one wants to take responsibility for their own actions, and books and people who tell you 'it's not your fault, it's this hormone, that organ, this drug, etc. etc.' It's the same as an alcoholic blaming their parents' divorce thirty years ago or someone who is addicted to a debilitating drug blaming other people for their problem and their choices.

    I think the books have misled you, but that's just my opinion.

    And, honestly, there is nothing you can do about people judging you. Everyone judges, and obesity is, unfortunately, something that is kindof easy to spot. Everyone gets judged, though. Women are judged automatically while driving, and there are plenty of people who judge based on race and religion. It's human nature, and it's something that everyone has to live with in some form or another. It sucks, but if you don't like it, then change it. *shrug*
  • Sublog
    Sublog Posts: 1,296 Member
    99% of the population is fat because they are eating too much food, and that same % can lose weight.

    In simple, you can argue that you don't believe in gravity, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    As someone who was FAT their entire life.. from birth to adulthood, I can say beyond a doubt that I was simply eating too much food and in denial.

    You Are Not Different

    All over the internet, on forums dedicated to everything from weight loss to muscle gain, people will loudly argue that they are different. “My metabolism is different.”, “My nervous system is different”, “My muscles are different”, things of that sort. Everyone is a unique and delicate flower, just like their mom told them.

    This usually follows them explaining why the good advice that others have used can’t possibly work for them. They are also usually the ones making no progress who won’t even consider trying something else. THEY. ARE. DIFFERENT.

    In short: you can’t beat thermodynamics anymore than anything else in the universe. You. Are. Not. Different. You can’t gain bodymass unless your energy intake exceeds your energy output because you can’t make something out of nothing (muscle or fat). And you can’t lose bodymass unless your energy intake is less than your energy ouput. These are rules that every system in the universe has to follow, including the human body. Nature’s rules, not mine to quote the all-knowing Mr. Miyagi. We may not like them, but we have to live by them anyway.
  • sequoialea
    sequoialea Posts: 26
    If you don't understand the "why" then how can you truly understand how to correct the problem?

    I would encourage you to dig deeper than the why it's harder to lose weight right now because of Insulin / Carb sensitivity, and look at the "why" you got that way to begin with. And I would encourage you to take the lions share of the responsibility instead of believing that you are the victim in the scenario. Blaming the government for their poor diet recommendations, and blaming carbs and insulin for locking you into growth mode, is not as healthy as facing the hard truth about how you are the one actually perpetrating the crime against yourself.

    Dude, you totally aren't getting it. I am taking responsibility. I am working hard to correct this problem. I am also diligently trying to understand the why. They are not mutually exclusive.
  • sequoialea
    sequoialea Posts: 26
    And what did you do? Did you in any way cut the amount of carbohydrates and/or sugars from your diet? If so, then I am sure that helped. And I am working on this - I am losing weight - so if that is the criticism of me, then it is unfounded.

    If you are referring to my post...I am not in any way criticizing you. I am simply saying...it's not as easy as people want to make it. Everybody's body responds differently. And if you figured out how your body responds by cutting your carbs/sugars, then good for you. Yes, that's what i had to do. Diabetes runs in my family, and at my age/weight, I was a prime candidate for being prediabetic. Plus you add the fact that I am premenopausal to the deal and on birth control, and boom, losing weight is an all out war. It is a winnable war, but it takes alot of diligence and cutting out things that most people can have in moderation with no problems. My body does not respond to sugars/carbs well...so I have to monitor it and make sure that I have the right balance. It's alot of freakin work, but it's worth it.

    I was not in anyway criticizing you. I just wanted to say to everyone...don't judge...everyone's different and their body is different!

    Thanks for the clarification. Diabetes runs heavy in my family as well. So, maybe there is a connection between these two things, in fact I am sure there is.
  • Annie5859
    Annie5859 Posts: 280 Member
    Wow! You really hit a nerve with this post! The bottom line is we all don't like to be judged because our primal desire is to be accepted. We are very social creatures. Being judged puts up our defences pushing ourselves to ask, "What is wrong with me? Why don't you like me?" Unfortunately being overweight is an easy attribute to judge because that's one of the first things others notice about ourselves. We are taught at a young age to make sure we make a good first impression and so we look "extra nice" and we act "extra pleasant". We also have been taught at an early age what physical characteristics are more desirable simply due to what we see on tv, movies and magazines etc. In some parts of the world, a voluptuous figure is quite desirable! But not where we live. Judging ones appearance can go the other way too. Look at newlywed Princess Kate. She's on every tabloid because she looks to be too thin. Bottom line is, we are a very judgmental society and although it's not a good societal trait, it is what it is. As an individual, you need to be happy with yourself and your own physical appearance. If you are content in your own skin, great! If you are not, then you need to do something about it and I think that's why we are all hear on MFP. We want to make a change.
  • Txnurse97
    Txnurse97 Posts: 275 Member
    Im fat and I take responsibility for what I put into my body. Science didnt do me in, stuffing my face did.

    Exactly. Me too.
  • bobbybdoe
    bobbybdoe Posts: 472 Member
    So, I am keenly aware of the fact that people judge me for being obese. I have a thick skin for this judging at this point. However, where the bull**** factor comes in is when someone tells me "that's just reality". Oh really? So it is "reality" for people to be hateful, stupid, and just plain misinformed?

    Yes.
  • anubis609
    anubis609 Posts: 3,966 Member
    *kitten* are like opinions. Everybody has one.

    That's just my own coming from being one.

    A great one.

    That is all.

    Carry on.

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  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    I got fat because I was much less active and still ate the same. I ate foods that I liked...ice cream, aged cheddar cheese, french fries...with no thought to how it would affect me. I ate next to nothing for a few years and still didn't lose, because eventually, hunger won (and I overate and retained as fat all the extra calories).

    I take full responsibility for my weight issue. I was athletic and active and slim for years....and because I slowed down and didn't pay attention, I gained weight. So, I started paying attention to what I'm eating and being active and lo and behold...I am losing weight. I could blame lots of things...working two jobs, change in hobbies, insulin issues (pre-diabetic), finances, but honestly...it's still my responsibility to take care of myself and my health.

    Thank you Stormie =D.
    I can understand the reason for the post, but I don't agree how personal you're taking the comments.

    The thing with western culture is that no one wants to take responsibility for their own actions, and books and people who tell you 'it's not your fault, it's this hormone, that organ, this drug, etc. etc.' It's the same as an alcoholic blaming their parents' divorce thirty years ago or someone who is addicted to a debilitating drug blaming other people for their problem and their choices.

    I think the books have misled you, but that's just my opinion.

    And, honestly, there is nothing you can do about people judging you. Everyone judges, and obesity is, unfortunately, something that is kindof easy to spot. Everyone gets judged, though. Women are judged automatically while driving, and there are plenty of people who judge based on race and religion. It's human nature, and it's something that everyone has to live with in some form or another. It sucks, but if you don't like it, then change it. *shrug*

    This post is spot on as well.
    So, I am keenly aware of the fact that people judge me for being obese. I have a thick skin for this judging at this point. However, where the bull**** factor comes in is when someone tells me "that's just reality". Oh really? So it is "reality" for people to be hateful, stupid, and just plain misinformed?



    Yes.

    And this is the simple truth regarding the judgement issues. It is reality...get over it, or keep your head in the sand like an ostrich if you like, and be judged for that instead.

    I was judged for losing my company in the middle of a recession that hit my industry the hardest. I was judged for losing my company in the middle of the largest emotional crisis my family had ever gone through. I was judged for working my *kitten* off trying to find a job and not being able to. I was judged for being absolutely miserable in my last relationship, but trying my hardest to maintain it and keep it moving forward, completely unsuccessfully. I was judged by her family and friends for all the lies she was telling about me constantly. I was judged for gaining 30lbs plus through that time, due to the depression, lack of self esteem (yeah...me...go figure), and flat lack of willpower to DO anything my reaction to that situation caused. I am currently judged (both positively and negatively) for being a single father, and keeping my kids from going through the abuse and emotional neglect that made their mother the way she is. I am judged for working 10hrs a day 5 days a week now that I finally found a solid job...because those children need me home more.

    We are all judged. If you're judged for being fat, do something about it. Complaining at the way the world works won't do you an ounce of good.

    And I'm sure you'll be judged for that too.
  • nyctraveler
    nyctraveler Posts: 305 Member
    I don't see your point. You don't follow a well balanced diet and hence youre obese

    If I ate high carb high sugar diet I would be fat too. I eat 40% protein and about 100g carbs a day and as little processed sugar as possible

    You need to change what you eat and stop making excuses. It's true hormones and genetics play a role in weight but no one is " born" to be obese
  • Scott613
    Scott613 Posts: 2,317 Member
    I don't see your point. You don't follow a well balanced diet and hence youre obese

    If I ate high carb high sugar diet I would be fat too. I eat 40% protein and about 100g carbs a day and as little processed sugar as possible

    You need to change what you eat and stop making excuses. It's true hormones and genetics play a role in weight but no one is " born" to be obese

    I think I'm in love with you!
  • tross0924
    tross0924 Posts: 909 Member
    If you don't understand the "why" then how can you truly understand how to correct the problem?

    I would encourage you to dig deeper than the why it's harder to lose weight right now because of Insulin / Carb sensitivity, and look at the "why" you got that way to begin with. And I would encourage you to take the lions share of the responsibility instead of believing that you are the victim in the scenario. Blaming the government for their poor diet recommendations, and blaming carbs and insulin for locking you into growth mode, is not as healthy as facing the hard truth about how you are the one actually perpetrating the crime against yourself.

    Dude, you totally aren't getting it. I am taking responsibility. I am working hard to correct this problem. I am also diligently trying to understand the why. They are not mutually exclusive.

    The impression I'm getting is that, the why you've chosen to settle with is carbs / insulin resistance. Yes, the process with which the body stores excess calories as fat involves insulin. So that is the cause of excess calories being stored as fat. But "why" does your body have excess calories to store as fat.

    Stopping with the insulin/carb why is like blaming the ground for breaking your leg instead of the conscious decision to jump.

    Maybe you aren't doing that, maybe you're blaming the jump, but if that's the case you're not communicating it very well.
  • RangerSteve
    RangerSteve Posts: 437
    So, I am keenly aware of the fact that people judge me for being obese. I have a thick skin for this judging at this point. However, where the bull**** factor comes in is when someone tells me "that's just reality". Oh really? So it is "reality" for people to be hateful, stupid, and just plain misinformed? I have been reading Gary Taubes' book, Why We Get Fat and his other book, Good Calories Bad Calories and I now know that "reality" isn't what it seems to be.

    We live in a dream world - where science is opinion when it doesn't meet with our expectations and prejudices, for example - when the idea that losing weight is simply about calories in/calories out and that fat people have a psychological problem that makes them fat (totally forgoing the SCIENTIFIC research that points to the PHYSIOLOGICAL REASONS for obesity). If you don't understand the cause of a problem, how can you ever come up with a solution for that problem?

    What makes us fat? Most of you I am guessing will say that it's caused by overeating (gluttony) and lack of exercise (sloth). That it's simply a calories in/calories out equation - this site is certainly set up that way! But that says nothing about what is ACTUALLY happening in the body to make it convert energy into fat and then store that fat in your cells. What causes that to happen? No one could answer this question for me - until I read these books.

    We get fat because of the over-production of insulin which is caused by the excess (and for some people even moderate) ingestion of carbohydrates and especially sugar. This coupled with an imbalance in other hormones and your genetics is when, where, how, and yes WHY we get fat. I am fat because my body is predisposed to put on fat when these conditions are presented (high-carb, high-sugar diet). This in turn starts a vicious cycle where the body is in growth mode (it makes no difference if it is to grow taller or fatter - it's still growth mode), thereby REQUIRING more energy (i.e. food). We all overeat when we are in growth mode - when we are growing children and when our body is getting fatter. Gluttony (overeating) and sloth (physical inactivity) are NOT the CAUSES of obesity, rather they are the EFFECTS of obesity.

    So, if you want to talk about "reality" please start with the FACTS. The fact is that most people will be happy to judge but never happy to be judged. I work towards a reality where the cause is the start of the solution and where people are a little less judgmental about the things they don't understand.

    Sorry for the rant!

    Have you had blood work done? Have you had your hormones tested by an endocrinologist? If you haven't had these things done or if you have had these things done and they come back normal then it is a problem of calories in vs calories out. The last statistic I read in my developmental biomechanics class stated that between 1-2% of obesity cases have genetic problems that CAUSE obesity.

    A big problem with obesity is that these insulin resistance and hormonal changes happen BECAUSE of obesity. They didn't cause it, they correlated with it.

    So, if you haven't had blood work done and you haven't had your hormones checked by a certified doctor then you shouldn't make a case that genetics are the reason for anything.
  • I am fat and I am not afraid to say it was all MY FAULT! I stuffed my face until I would get physically sick and did nothing but lay around on the couch all day. I also would like to add that if I hadn't had all those people out there judging and making fun of me for being fat, I would have had no reason to lose weight in the first place...
  • writtenINthestars
    writtenINthestars Posts: 1,933 Member
    I appreciate where you are coming from and respect that you have this theory, but I don't agree with it at all.

    There are so many factors to why people become obese and I think the most common factors are indeed lack of inactivity and not having portion control of the foods that are being eaten.

    And I have to add....everyone is judged or does judge someone else at some point in life for a huge variety of reasons. It IS human nature and reality.
  • chevy88grl
    chevy88grl Posts: 3,937 Member
    I enjoyed reading your post, but I don't agree with it.

    Ditto.

    I'm going to go with this too.

    Agreed. ..I will add that one of the things they say on the Biggest Loser is that within the first month the contestants are usually off most if not all of their medications of things that were brough on from being overweight. . so just a thought.

    But I can assure you that they are not eating a high-carb diet and the first thing they cut out is the sugar in their diet. Even by reducing calories and eating a low-fat diet we will restrict carbs in some way - the percentage of all sources of calories is reduced. This alone could account for the reduction of weight and the improvement of health. Carbohydrates are fatting. If you reduce your carbohydrates, you reduce your size. Source - http://www.garytaubes.com/2010/12/calories-fat-or-carbohydrates/

    Everyone is different and responds differently. If I reduce my carbs I get very lethargic, don't have the energy to work out, want to sleep all day, etc. I don't have a carb sensitivity at all. I could eat carbs all day long and be just fine. Do I eat them all day? No. Because my goal is my body weight in protein a day, but I COULD do it if I wanted to. Please, do not make assumptions. I currently weigh around 145lbs and I have lost 60lbs still eating carbs AND sugar.

    Everyone's body is different. We all respond differently to things. Don't make mass generalizations because one thing works or doesn't work for you.

    I'm not fat anymore - not even close. I eat carbs. I eat sugar. This isn't a diet, it is a lifestyle.. I eat what I want and I eat it in MODERATION. I truly believe PORTION CONTROL is a huge problem in America and probably one of the biggest reasons why we are an overweight society. No one has ANY clue how much 1 cup of rice is, what 4oz of chicken is, etc.
  • sunyg
    sunyg Posts: 229
    I've been pregnant twice in just a few years. I got fat with my 3rd. My 4th I chose to do it differently. All of that weight from the 4th is gone. Still have the 25 pounds left that I didn't lose from my 3rd. Again my fault for not getting off my lazy butt til he was almost 2.
    I had a lot of obstacles with my 3rd. Medical, financial, working too much and not a lot of money. But at the end of the day I got fat with him because of me. Sad thing is? I knew better and did it anyway.

    However today is a new day and I've decided that with all I have gone through to lose this weight and to get back to the fit sexy me I'm never ever going to let myself get that way again. I don't care if I have to work out at 80.
  • kandire
    kandire Posts: 87
    I enjoyed reading your post, but I don't agree with it.

    Ditto.
    Agreed.


    dittto. i felt myself getting a bit angry as i read this. but that's all im gonna say.


    Yep. Gonna go with their reply.
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