What do you make of my date?

odusgolp

I really wanted to see 6'9" naked... but I don't know if I can afford it... :drinker:

I have and it's not worth it, believe me. Even the, ahem, proportional bits! I'm now even more convinced I dated him before!

BWAHAHA!

Heather75

My issues are that he doesn't know what meat is and he didn't pay for his half. I don't mind paying for myself on a date, but he should have at least covered his share.

I repeat, he's a ****head.

TheRoadDog

First, from the politically correct standpoint. -- This is the 21st Century. Woment want equal rights. Equal Pay. Equal Consideration. The liberated woman of the 21st century should cough up her half.

to quote Blanche...

I don't want to be treated as your equal...
I want to be treated a lot better than you!

I hope you read the second part of my response.

Ajontheguitar

1. Yes, he asked me out.
2. I then essentially had to drive to him *LOL*
3. I am old rather old fashioned.... and this is pointed out in my online dating profile, in fact. So, it wasn't a stretch going in. In fact, it says " Women that say, “Flowers just die,” should be kicked in the shins. I love flowers, and although I’m independent I respect a chivalrous man."

That's me, that's what I laid out in advance. So it's not a far cry that he should already know I'm not really "Girl Power Feminist" type.

And this does not mean I always expect a man to pay... not at all.

THANK YOU. We're not talking about the glass ceiling here! We're talking about polite courtesy on a first date from what is supposed to be a gentleman. I'm all for equality but this is a different topic altogether. Plus the way a man tips is a hugely indicative of how he treats other people.

Qarol

I hope you read the second part of my response.

Of course...I just couldn't resist. Love me some Golden Girls...

Namaste1983

It'd be like insulting vagina before sex, and then begging you for it, then making it a quick act of transgression before you can enjoy anything, then running off immediately afterwards asking for cab money.

Bwahahaha!!! Loves!

halobender

You sir, are a CHEAP SKATE. :frown:

And what does it make you if you expect a free meal out of me?

MrBrown72

1. Yes, he asked me out.
2. I then essentially had to drive to him *LOL*
3. I am old rather old fashioned.... and this is pointed out in my online dating profile, in fact. So, it wasn't a stretch going in. In fact, it says " Women that say, “Flowers just die,” should be kicked in the shins. I love flowers, and although I’m independent I respect a chivalrous man."

That's me, that's what I laid out in advance. So it's not a far cry that he should already know I'm not really "Girl Power Feminist" type.

And this does not mean I always expect a man to pay... not at all.

LOL.
Are you in Texas? Sorry just seems like the average around here. Anyplace where the boys wear cowboy hats and boots and have never ridden a herd and drive a truck that has never been dirty or hauled anything is starting a life of overcompensation to begin with.

keb80

If he's that stingy on a first date, he probably won't be very generous in bed either. Don't waste your time.

Ken_Roper

"All I'm saying is that if you require a guy to pay for you, you better be putting out on the first date."

There is a name for that, and it isn't pretty.

This is just wrong. But, I'm old school....

becky_turcotte

KEEP MOVING AND DONT LOOK BACK.

dls06

No second date for him!

AlsDonkBoxSquat

Maybe you should have worn the girls on display?

BrettPGH

Wait he made you pay AND drive?!?


You should have made HIM put out.

_GlaDOS_

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he had a brain fart and didn't realize what he had done due to first date jitters.

I'm going to have to go with this.

And why aren't women cheapskates if they don't pay or do this? It seems strange to me to hold men to this standard, but sounds like I'm one of the few with this opinion... then again, it seems strange and makes me uncomfortable to think about going on a date and just assuming someone will pay for my dinner. Uncomfortable and selfish, actually. Not that I don't appreciate it when it happens, I just don't expect it or assume it will happen.

I say, give him another chance.

Qarol

Maybe you should have worn the girls on display?

I think she was both sober and concealing the cleavage...tsk tsk

Zeromilediet

Small price to pay to learn what he's like. Rule number one of dining out, the invited one does not have to pay, so it was generous of you to offer. On the other hand, he may have decided before the end of dinner, this was your last date. Maybe because you ordered meat.

First date jitters? I don't know how old either of you are but I'd think eating out with others should not be such a departure from the norm that basic dining out behaviour hasn't been learned. Men balk at being changed, but this guy is crying out for training he should have had growing up; that's not changing him, that's teaching how to function as an adult. He doesn't seem worth the effort if he doesn't even understand chicken is a meat.

Do dating sites allow feedback like on Ama*zon? :-) Hope you have call display.

spicy618

You sir, are a CHEAP SKATE. :frown:

And what does it make you if you expect a free meal out of me?

Definately a woman.... NOT ON A DATE WITH YOU!

Judging from the responses of other Women stating the same as me. Tell us all, what does that make us?

Ajontheguitar

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he had a brain fart and didn't realize what he had done due to first date jitters.

I'm going to have to go with this.

And why aren't women cheapskates if they don't pay or do this? It seems strange to me to hold men to this standard, but sounds like I'm one of the few with this opinion... then again, it seems strange and makes me uncomfortable to think about going on a date and just assuming someone will pay for my dinner. Uncomfortable and selfish, actually. Not that I don't appreciate it when it happens, I just don't expect it or assume it will happen.

I say, give him another chance.

I'm a little "shy" as well. However an adult I can only assume in his 30's, 6'9 and taking a woman like the OP on a date? If he's that jittery to botch all of that, it's no longer jitters, it's patterns. First impressions are everything and this one went down like the hindenberg.

AlsDonkBoxSquat

Maybe you should have worn the girls on display?

I think she was both sober and concealing the cleavage...tsk tsk

Yes, but she did have a mini umbrella in her pants, so that's something.

writtenINthestars

Geez....talk about a "Bueller........Bueller....." moment.

Not sure I would write it off completely as maybe he's just not up to par with dating and such, but that is a bit of a turn off that he didn't offer you change...I'd have a "wtf" moment...

mandeiko

Then the check comes. He immediately grabs it, and I pull my wallet out of my purse. He shows me the bill ($21.89) and I throw in a $20. Awkwardly, he follows suit. The waitress takes it. He comments "I hope she doesn't think that's a $19 tip!" Then, when she does come back, he keeps the change after leaving $3 on the table.

I'm no good at math but... He took the 19, left 3, which left him with 16... He kept the 16, and you didn't get any change?

jrhstarlight

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he had a brain fart and didn't realize what he had done due to first date jitters.

I'm going to have to go with this.

And why aren't women cheapskates if they don't pay or do this? It seems strange to me to hold men to this standard, but sounds like I'm one of the few with this opinion... then again, it seems strange and makes me uncomfortable to think about going on a date and just assuming someone will pay for my dinner. Uncomfortable and selfish, actually. Not that I don't appreciate it when it happens, I just don't expect it or assume it will happen.

I say, give him another chance.

Sorry I disagree with this for the main reason being he clearly made the rude non funny remark about hoping the waitress didn't think she was getting a huge tip. Which added to the fact he clearly wanted most of the change back, so I see intent there to keep it not being absent minded. Sorry. I say no go on the second date

danacho

sorry but what guy lets a girl pay for the first date?? dont get me wrong as long as she doest assume i'm paying and at least offers to pay half i quite happily pay for the meal 21st century or not!!! its just the gentlemanly thing to do if a 2nd date is on the cards then she can take me out for dinner etc

BerkleyEL

Definitely avoid dating this guy... Red flags all around!

ItsCasey

Wow, a lot of you girls are a little ... psychotic. About the buying meals for you thing. Just because men on average earn more than women, doesn't mean that all men are rolling around in money. And even if we are, if all you're after is a free meal ...

All I'm saying is that if you require a guy to pay for you, you better be putting out on the first date.

You sir, are a CHEAP SKATE. :frown:

"*kitten*" would be more appropriate for this guy. Let's take this a piece at a time, shall we?

Just because men on average earn more than women, doesn't mean that all men are rolling around in money.

You don't have to be "rolling around in money" to afford to buy the occasional meal for someone you (allegedly) like. If you're so hard up that paying a $20 lunch tab cramps your style, then here's a couple of suggestions: get a better job and/or stop inviting women to eat with you. Problem solved.

And even if we are, if all you're after is a free meal ...

... I'd go eat at my parents' house. My mom's a great cook, and I wouldn't have to be in the company of a *kitten* while I ate. Bonus.

All I'm saying is that if you require a guy to pay for you, you better be putting out on the first date.

The only thing I'd "put out" with a guy who tries to get sex from me on the first date is him out of his misery.

A few other things ...

1. I make my own money. I don't NEED you to feed me. And judging by the tone of your post, I'd say it's more likely that you need ME to feed YOU than the other way around. Men who are secure in their masculinity don't concern themselves with stuff like this, regardless of how much money they make.

2. It's not about a free meal. I don't even care if the date doesn't involve eating at all.

3. If you invite someone to do something with you and you have any sense of common courtesy at all, you'll pay for them.

4. If a MAN really likes a woman, the cost of the date will be the farthest thing from his mind ... so far, in fact, that he'd never even consider allowing the woman to pay. If a guy does expect/allow/force a woman to pay, then it should be clear to that (very unlucky) woman that he doesn't really like her and doesn't really think of himself as "dating" her.

The end.

HopefulLeigh

sorry but what guy lets a girl pay for the first date?? dont get me wrong as long as she doest assume i'm paying and at least offers to pay half i quite happily pay for the meal 21st century or not!!! its just the gentlemanly thing to do if a 2nd date is on the cards then she can take me out for dinner etc

My husband did ... after I made it clear that I was going to spork his hand if he reached for that bill one more time. I asked him out, I had made it clear that I intended on paying before going out and I picked the date.

All signs point to this guy just being a douche. I would've assumed she was going dutch and split the change 50/50.

To the guy who keeps whining about the women who say this guy's a cheap skate, I'd just like to say this. The OP clearly didn't expect him to pay for HER meal, but he sure as hell should've paid for his own. Her not putting down the full amount of the bill should've been indicative that they were going dutch. Of course, you're not a gentleman so I'm sure you wouldn't have understood that either.

_gwen

No second date, he's a complete idiot.

+1

jmruef

Stuff like this makes me glad I'm done with the dating scene...

I have never EVER been comfortable with someone opening doors for me - car doors included. It really kind of creeped me out when the one guy I dated who did it insisted on doing it. Every. Single. Time.

When DH and I were dating, the person who did the inviting paid. We were never terribly formal about it, but if he brought up the idea of going out to dinner and a movie, it was on him. If I wanted to go to a particular restaurant, I paid. Awkward? Nope. Unchivalrous? Didn't bother me a bit. We were/are real people, having a good time. I've never, EVER felt disrespected by the man I married.

Keeping the change and not tipping a waiter/waitress well - yeah, that would bother me.

shiggyshane

Wow what a loser..