October Whole 30 for Paleo/Primal Support Peeps

jamk1446

TheGlen- on what I tell I people about why I eat paleo..I don't.. I really don't go into it much ..those that are close to me know I have celiac disease and a long list of food intolerences that limits me to meats, eggs, vegetables, fruit and nuts.
that seems to be explanation enough for most people. I guess I have reached a point in my life that I really don't care what people think.. do what works for you and I'll do what works for me.. and we'll both be happy is my view on it.
if they want to eat like I do and ask for particulars then I'll share otherwise I leave it alone.

I left a response on the other thread but this is pretty much where I'm at too. In the beginning, I was really passionate about spreading the word and probably was preachy myself but I quickly learned most people really didn't want to know. It's like when someone ask how your day is, they don't really want to know the details, they just want a pleasant, "fine, thanks!" It's so much easier to say that I'm avoiding certain foods that will make me ill, people understand that better. But there are a few curious folk who ask more and I try to answer their questions. Of course, you have to say something at a family event when you won't eat Aunt Mary's famous chocolate cake anymore. I would just say, I've been doing some reading and found that I feel better when I cut grain/ dairy from my diet. And then see where the questions take you.

TheGlen

TheGlen- on what I tell I people about why I eat paleo..I don't.. I really don't go into it much ..those that are close to me know I have celiac disease and a long list of food intolerences that limits me to meats, eggs, vegetables, fruit and nuts.
that seems to be explanation enough for most people. I guess I have reached a point in my life that I really don't care what people think.. do what works for you and I'll do what works for me.. and we'll both be happy is my view on it.
if they want to eat like I do and ask for particulars then I'll share otherwise I leave it alone.

Hi Momof8munchkins (first off...wow, 8?),

Thanks for you comment. It's not so much that I "care what people think", it's more that my family is going to be interested in why I'm not consuming half a bowl of stuffing. My wife and I have been very happy with the results so far. We all feel great, my wife and I are losing weight, and our underweight children are gaining weight...so I don't think anyone will challenge us on the decision, more wonder what it is and why. I've been refining my response, and making it more concise, but I thought I'd also ask what other people say.

runnerdad

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msbanana

Hi All,

With Thanksgiving coming up this weekend, I was wondering if you guys might be able to offer some input. I posted a topic, "What is the Paleo/Primal/PaNu/Archevore Lifestyle?" ( http://goo.gl/ARaUR ), asking basically;

"What is your two-ten line response to people when they ask what it is, and why you do it? Do you have a standard response, or web site you send them to?"

I have two family dinners this weekend, and with it being the first two major family get togethers since we've moved to the paleo lifestyle, I'm sure I'm going to get asked lots of questions. I have read lots, I have a pretty good understanding of the what and why (even if I'm not completely following it yet), but I hate sounding like I'm coming across as a preacher.

How do you guys respond to your family/friends who have no idea what paleo is or why?

I dumb it down. A lot.
"I've switched to a whole foods approach to life. I try to avoid anything processed, so no grain products, soy, dairy etc... because I find I feel better with out it."

This usually works without people getting all into to the politics of which "diet" is best and which guru said what about whichever diet. I hate those conversations. I do this because it works for me. My friends and family seem to understand that or at least accept it and now even provide "Anna Friendly" food at gatherings and are excited to try my new things that I gladly bring along.

I'm not trying to push Paleo and when I pass on something 95% of the time they don't question it.

Examples of stuff I bring:

"Mock" garlic Mashed Potatos- I skip the cheese and butter and sub unsweetened whole coconut milk in place of the cream cheese just use it sparingly or it gets runny. And go crazy with the spices!

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/george-stella/mock-garlic-mashed-potatoes-recipe/index.html

Cashew Curry dip for Veggies

http://glutenfreegoddess.blogspot.com/2010/07/how-to-make-cashew-cream-and-curry.html

(anything she makes is AMAZING!!!)

Pumkin Coconut Soup
(I have made this non-vegan by sauteing fresh pork sausage and skipping on the oil or margarine)
http://vegetarian.about.com/od/soupsstewsandchili/r/pumpcoconutsoup.htm

Ayla20103005

?Hi all, are any of you not tracking food during this challenge as per the whole 30 site?
it makes me nervous at the thought of not, but also not sure on what ratios to put in for each thing and cals so I can track on MFP if I want to. I did find a site, and it has me at quite high cals, but maybe ill just focus on eating the right things to hunger and not track.
Starting weight:
89 kg (196 lbs approx)
158 cm tall (5 foot 2)

I am currently weight training 3 days, and 3 days of 20 mins of cardio (have been doing this for 2 weeks) but was doing a lot of classes at my gym before. Ive lost around 30 kg in the last 16 months, with about the same to go.

Ayla20103005

http://paleodan.com/macronutrient-ratios/

Grokette

Hey all. Sorry I have been MIA the past couple of days. Between Dr appointments and trying to go to work and keep up with household stuff I have been wiped out.

I am currently taking the Byetta that the Dr put me on and he said along with the Paleo plan that I should start losing weight on a regular basis again.

I am weighing in tomorrow even though your not supposed to because my Dr wants weekly updates on my progress.

Breakfast: Hardees Low Carb Breakfast Bowl

Lunch: Buffalo wings and salad

Supper: Grass Fed Chuck Roast, green beans and baby carrots.

ResilientWoman

Hey all. Sorry I have been MIA the past couple of days. Between Dr appointments and trying to go to work and keep up with household stuff I have been wiped out.

I am currently taking the Byetta that the Dr put me on and he said along with the Paleo plan that I should start losing weight on a regular basis again.

I am weighing in tomorrow even though your not supposed to because my Dr wants weekly updates on my progress.

Breakfast: Hardees Low Carb Breakfast Bowl

Lunch: Buffalo wings and salad

Supper: Grass Fed Chuck Roast, green beans and baby carrots.

Do whatever makes the most sense and the least stress to you. We're behind you 100%, don't forget that! Now I have to go research Byetta, I haven't heard of this one before. How goes the process of learning to give injections?

ResilientWoman

I'd like to join. I've been eating Primal since July 30th. I've dropped my weight from 310 to 283.

My goal is to start to refine my Primal eating so I find the percentages of fat/protein/carbs that works for me. Oh and to be able to use coconut oil - so far I don't like the taste on anything except chicken. I buy mine from Amazon too. Right now I'm looking at a tablespoon of coconut manna and trying to get brave enough to try it.

Breakfast: 8 oz grilled chicken, 1/2 honeycrisp apple, slice of swiss cheese, coconut manna

Don't have lunch or dinner planned yet. I will probably eat a late lunch since I have a meeting tonight and won't be able to have dinner at a normal time so I will IF it.

Welcome Hockey7Fan! Glad you could join us.

kjenner929

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MUDDERinTRAINING

I'm super discouraged...

I started the Whole30 challenge on Monday (though we, as a family, have been eating loosely paleo for a month). I have been miserably hungry so far this week. I have been doing my best to limit carbs, but I am so sugar addicted I keep attacking the fruit bowl. Prior to this week I was a paleo baking fanatic; using monster amounts of dates and honey. With those taken away from me I feel so lost, lol.

Reading through the last few pages, it seems like everyone else is finding this way of eating to provide satiety fairly easily...I'm hoping that it's just an initial detox phase that is making me feel like I need to eat the whole kitchen! Could this be all it is, or am I doomed to hunger/sugar cravings forever?

PS...y'all have motivated me to check out our local CrossFit...and I'm really looking forward to it!

ResilientWoman

ResilientWoman - whant brand of liquid Stevia do you use? good job on the kettlebells! you're inspiring me to do 100 swings for tonight!

iluv2travel, I use NuNaturals but it's my first liquid Stevia and I'm open to trying others as well. DrBorkBork has touted the virtues of a Liquid Vanilla Stevia in more recipes than I can count and I'd be curious to find out if this is the same brand (e.g. NuNaturals) or if she found another.

racmac

I'm super discouraged...

I started the Whole30 challenge on Monday (though we, as a family, have been eating loosely paleo for a month). I have been miserably hungry so far this week. I have been doing my best to limit carbs, but I am so sugar addicted I keep attacking the fruit bowl. Prior to this week I was a paleo baking fanatic; using monster amounts of dates and honey. With those taken away from me I feel so lost, lol.

Reading through the last few pages, it seems like everyone else is finding this way of eating to provide satiety fairly easily...I'm hoping that it's just an initial detox phase that is making me feel like I need to eat the whole kitchen! Could this be all it is, or am I doomed to hunger/sugar cravings forever?

PS...y'all have motivated me to check out our local CrossFit...and I'm really looking forward to it!

Im new to this as well and i have been starving this week - especially the first 3 days and craving sweet foods.
But and i must stress Im not following the whole lifestyle completely - I feel less hungry yesterday and today - so keep going you will get there.

EdelweissViola

mudderintraining and racmac - When I "sugar detox," it usually takes 4 days. During that time, I am a monster and usually tell my husband that I am not responsible for the words that come out of my mouth. After that, I feel amazing. You can do it!

Good morning, everyone!

jamk1446

ResilientWoman - whant brand of liquid Stevia do you use? good job on the kettlebells! you're inspiring me to do 100 swings for tonight!

iluv2travel, I use NuNaturals but it's my first liquid Stevia and I'm open to trying others as well. DrBorkBork has touted the virtues of a Liquid Vanilla Stevia in more recipes than I can count and I'd be curious to find out if this is the same brand (e.g. NuNaturals) or if she found another.

I haven't found this one in stores, I use Wisdom Natural Sweet Leaf line of liquid stevias. I like them so much better than the powders. My favorite is English Toffee.

jamk1446

I'm super discouraged...

I started the Whole30 challenge on Monday (though we, as a family, have been eating loosely paleo for a month). I have been miserably hungry so far this week. I have been doing my best to limit carbs, but I am so sugar addicted I keep attacking the fruit bowl. Prior to this week I was a paleo baking fanatic; using monster amounts of dates and honey. With those taken away from me I feel so lost, lol.

Reading through the last few pages, it seems like everyone else is finding this way of eating to provide satiety fairly easily...I'm hoping that it's just an initial detox phase that is making me feel like I need to eat the whole kitchen! Could this be all it is, or am I doomed to hunger/sugar cravings forever?

PS...y'all have motivated me to check out our local CrossFit...and I'm really looking forward to it!

No, it will pass, especially if you can be really strict about it at first, giving in to the cravings perpetuates them. Make sure you are getting enough fat, that will help too.

jamk1446

?Hi all, are any of you not tracking food during this challenge as per the whole 30 site?
it makes me nervous at the thought of not, but also not sure on what ratios to put in for each thing and cals so I can track on MFP if I want to. I did find a site, and it has me at quite high cals, but maybe ill just focus on eating the right things to hunger and not track.
Starting weight:
89 kg (196 lbs approx)
158 cm tall (5 foot 2)

I am currently weight training 3 days, and 3 days of 20 mins of cardio (have been doing this for 2 weeks) but was doing a lot of classes at my gym before. Ive lost around 30 kg in the last 16 months, with about the same to go.

I don't really track closely anymore, 20/70/10 sounds like a good place to start. I do recommend eating intuitively but for some, with food cravings or disordered eating habits for example, your intuition may be skewed. I don't know if this applies to you, just throwing it out there. If you feel that applies to you, maybe track for a short time to get a feel for healthier eating patterns and then let it go once you know you can recognize what is working for you and what is not.

iluv2travel

Happy Friday everyone!

Thank you ResilientWoman and jamk1446 for your liquid stevia suggestions. I did see NuNaturals online on iHerb and its about 5 bucks cheaper that buying it from the brand's actual website. I haven't seen that in stores either but I will checkout Whole Foods later to see if they carry Wisdom Natural and other brands. I want to try coconut oil and see how I like it so i'm hoping to grab a sample pack while i'm there.

hockey7fan

Happy Friday!

If you are just starting and you find you are starving, get a jar of Nutiva's coconut manna and eat a tablespoon of it. It's pretty tasty and I can guarantee you that it will keep you satisfied for hours. I ate a tablespoon yesterday morning with breakfast at around 9:30 a.m. and it was 3:30 p.m. before I ate again. And I didn't have dinner last night either. I was satisfied.

Plus it's tasty!

I was craving Mexican food yesterday so I took some ground beef and cooked it with taco seasonings, put it in a bowl with lettuce and tomato and put cheese on top. It was so yummy I plan to have it again today for lunch.

jamk1446

Happy Friday everyone!

Thank you ResilientWoman and jamk1446 for your liquid stevia suggestions. I did see NuNaturals online on iHerb and its about 5 bucks cheaper that buying it from the brand's actual website. I haven't seen that in stores either but I will checkout Whole Foods later to see if they carry Wisdom Natural and other brands. I want to try coconut oil and see how I like it so i'm hoping to grab a sample pack while i'm there.

iHerb also carries the Sweet Leaf line, that's where I buy from. Also much cheaper there than instore.

Grokette

ResilientWoman - whant brand of liquid Stevia do you use? good job on the kettlebells! you're inspiring me to do 100 swings for tonight!

iluv2travel, I use NuNaturals but it's my first liquid Stevia and I'm open to trying others as well. DrBorkBork has touted the virtues of a Liquid Vanilla Stevia in more recipes than I can count and I'd be curious to find out if this is the same brand (e.g. NuNaturals) or if she found another.

I think Dr BorkBork is using Davinci's syrups and they are not stevia, but liquid splenda.

My favorite stevia whether in the liquid form or the powder form is Sweet Leaf and the liquid comes in a bunch of different flavors too.

Grokette

Hey all. Sorry I have been MIA the past couple of days. Between Dr appointments and trying to go to work and keep up with household stuff I have been wiped out.

I am currently taking the Byetta that the Dr put me on and he said along with the Paleo plan that I should start losing weight on a regular basis again.

I am weighing in tomorrow even though your not supposed to because my Dr wants weekly updates on my progress.

Breakfast: Hardees Low Carb Breakfast Bowl

Lunch: Buffalo wings and salad

Supper: Grass Fed Chuck Roast, green beans and baby carrots.

Do whatever makes the most sense and the least stress to you. We're behind you 100%, don't forget that! Now I have to go research Byetta, I haven't heard of this one before. How goes the process of learning to give injections?

Thanks ResilientWoman!!

The Byetta is helping me with losing weight along with the low carb plan. I am kind of combining Paleo and Atkins (they are so close anyway). I am normally not one to count my calories or carbs, but for Dr accountability I am counting my carbs and even though I have been on the go, I am keeping to the low carb approach.

I am down 4 pounds since I started taking the Byetta injections. Last night made me sick though and it ended up making me purge my supper. My Fasting Blood Sugar is also normal after only 2 1/2 days of injections. It works FAST!!

I am excited. I purchased the Danskin 8 pound kettlebell last night and it came with a video. I can't wait to be able to try it out tomorrow morning before taking my dogs for a walk.

I am looking for other kettle bell workouts so if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know!!

justamyagain

So it has been about a week now. I am starting to feel fuller longer, and have actually had to remind myself to eat a couple of times. I feel like the quality of my sleep is better, but the quantity is still lacking.

jmeeej

I was craving Mexican food yesterday so I took some ground beef and cooked it with taco seasonings, put it in a bowl with lettuce and tomato and put cheese on top. It was so yummy I plan to have it again today for lunch.

Thats what I had yesterday except sub the cheese for avocado chunks. It was SOOOOOOO good.

momof8munchkins

TheGlen.. lol yes you read that correctly.. my husband and I have 8 kiddos ages 18-2.:bigsmile:

iluv2travel

iHerb also carries the Sweet Leaf line, that's where I buy from. Also much cheaper there than instore.

Wow, I went to Whole foods and the Wisdom Natural brand was $13.99!!! I'm better off ordering online...
I also grab a small pack of Artisana raw coconut oil and it tastes pretty good. I'll try cooking with it and see how it affects the taste of food. I'm starting to love iHerb, everything is cheaper plus no tax.

PrimalMorningMoon

I am in the process, really barely started, of changing to a pale lifestyle. This will be a great place to be accountable and learn. My first action is to organize the food supplies and make a grocery list. Fun stuff. My spouse eats horribly and HATES throwing stuff out. I will have to work around that...and he can eat all the non-paleo foods until they are gone. But I think I will make a food bank trip too...donating, of course.

AmbitionStrong

Hi! I'm already shifted fully into a Primal diet, (no more taste for junk or sugar!) BUT I'm not losing lbs or inches. I DO weight train, so I am gaining strength, but it sure would be nice to see some LOSS!!!! I am just looking for others who eat this way!

hockey7fan

I was craving Mexican food yesterday so I took some ground beef and cooked it with taco seasonings, put it in a bowl with lettuce and tomato and put cheese on top. It was so yummy I plan to have it again today for lunch.

Thats what I had yesterday except sub the cheese for avocado chunks. It was SOOOOOOO good.

I need to learn to eat avocado. I can't get past the fact that it's what guacamole is made from and guacamole just reminds me too much of what was in my baby's diaper. Nasty! Today instead of the tomato I put some fresh salsa on top.

ResilientWoman

Thanks ResilientWoman!!

The Byetta is helping me with losing weight along with the low carb plan. I am kind of combining Paleo and Atkins (they are so close anyway). I am normally not one to count my calories or carbs, but for Dr accountability I am counting my carbs and even though I have been on the go, I am keeping to the low carb approach.

I am down 4 pounds since I started taking the Byetta injections. Last night made me sick though and it ended up making me purge my supper. My Fasting Blood Sugar is also normal after only 2 1/2 days of injections. It works FAST!!

I am excited. I purchased the Danskin 8 pound kettlebell last night and it came with a video. I can't wait to be able to try it out tomorrow morning before taking my dogs for a walk.

I am looking for other kettle bell workouts so if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know!!

Lauren Brooks Ultimate Body Sculpt and Conditioning with Kettlebells, Volume 1, 2 or 3 or she has a Kettlebell workshop video with Z-Health drills and Kettlebell instruction. She has amazing technique and the women I know who have studied Kettlebell drills just from her videos without getting a certified personal trainer/Kettlebell instructor have managed to stay safe learning them which is saying something. If you can find a cross-fit/kettlebell gym or an RKC/AKC certified Kettlebell instructor that's awesome. Lauren's videos are the next best thing to a live trainer, especially for safety and for beginners.

One caveat, if you have ever done any strength training before you will need a 12 kg/26 lb Kettlebell. An 8 lb Kettlebell is known in the industry as a 'doorstop'. When I first started, I was so deconditioned that I could barely lift a 4 kg/9 lb bell. This only lasted for a week or two, then I moved straight up to the normal size bell little girls start on in Russia, the 12 kg/26 lb bell. After 2 years. My go to bell is the 16 kg/35 lb bell and I finally have a pair of 12 kg/26 lb bells (52 lbs total) for paired bell exercises.

I'm about average for someone who has done it for only a year although I've been doing it over 2 years. I have progressed from deeply deconditioned with not athletic history to elite athlete in 2 years but am still way, way behind people who have had anything like a more average body. Hence, if you still have the receipt, you can always take it back. If not, it'll make a good doorstop one day soon.

Wherever you start with Kettlebells, just start. Their design is like nothing else in the health and fitness industry. A true test of their value is how rarely you see (if ever) anyone reselling them. They are passed down as an inheritance to children and grand children and I cannot imagine mine ever leaving the family. It took me over 6 months to save up for my first real bell from Dragon Door. I bought it through an RKC instructor and saved the shipping charges which are often more than the bell itself. You can also find AKC local instructors if you're lucky and their bells are awesome as well.

I love what they do for me when I use them. I love what they do for me afterward when I'm being a couch potato. Increased metabolism for 12-24 hours afterward will mean lower blood sugars for you during that time so be careful when you're first starting to keep an eye out for the shift. It'll blow you away! LOL I love how they've changed my health and how they've changed my income. I love that they are teaching my daughter fearlessness. At age 3 1/2, she started training. Remember that I've never trained in any physical discipline other than Tai Chi in my life and until recently knew next to nothing about them. My daughter started with the 4 kg/9 lb but quickly (age 4, at a weight of only 40 lbs herself) moved up to the 12 kg/26 lb for her Kettlebell deadlifts. She would do 200-400 deadlifts with the 12 kg bell before breakfast just for kicks and because she could get her training and Mandarin (counting) practice done at the same time.

If a 4 year old can do 200-400 deadlifts with a kettlebell at over half her body weight, what are all of you folk who haven't fallen in love with them doing??? Move slowly, frequently. Lift heavy things whether it's your body or a kettlebell or a truck tire. Play. Rest. Laugh. Love. We only get one body and one life (as far as I know, although I'd still trade this body in on one that never knew gluten if I could) so we might as well have fun with them!