Is this where it starts? With Disney Princesses?

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  • TheShelterCat
    TheShelterCat Posts: 160
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    I'm surprised this topic hasnt been shut down and all the commentors havent been spanked by a moderator yet.
  • mandeiko
    mandeiko Posts: 1,657 Member
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    Some day... my prince will come..

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  • TheShelterCat
    TheShelterCat Posts: 160
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    Some day... my prince will come..

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    Yeah, that'll do it...
  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
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    Yeah, I watched all those dumb movies when I was a kid. I turned out okay and NOT princessey. I have no issues letting my daughters watch them. And yes, I do tell my children that being smart and nice is more important than being pretty.
  • mandeiko
    mandeiko Posts: 1,657 Member
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    Yeah, that'll do it...

    Perhaps.. but I hope they recognize they are illustrations with clothes covering the important parts.

    Little Mermaid wears shells over her knockers for goodness sake! :huh:
  • TheShelterCat
    TheShelterCat Posts: 160
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    Yeah, that'll do it...

    Perhaps.. but I hope they recognize they are illustrations with clothes covering the important parts.

    Little Mermaid wears shells over her knockers for goodness sake! :huh:

    Yeah but it's got to be sending out bad self images to some little boy, somewhere....
  • mandeiko
    mandeiko Posts: 1,657 Member
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    Yeah, that'll do it...

    Perhaps.. but I hope they recognize they are illustrations with clothes covering the important parts.

    Little Mermaid wears shells over her knockers for goodness sake! :huh:

    Yeah but it's got to be sending out bad self images to some little boy, somewhere....

    Haha. It's only fair to make it equal. :)
  • auntdeedee87
    auntdeedee87 Posts: 706 Member
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    Some day... my prince will come..

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    I've got a raging boner now
  • zeeeb
    zeeeb Posts: 805 Member
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    it's hard, because our kids are getting fatter (girls tend to be either unhappy and chubby or obsessive and skinny)... i was at a playground with a group of Vacation Care school kids the other day, there were about 100 of them, and seriously, i was shocked at how fat the average was.... it really stopped me in my tracks... i'm not sure if this is a group of school kids who are fatter because their parents work alot, they are in care alot and eat whatever they want, and are given whatever they want. but i was shocked. this was in one of the posher suburbs as well...?!@*

    so they need healthy role models, but it doesn't help obviously having all these super super thin cartoons and pop stars and tv stars... our kids are clearly eating too much junk and not exercising enough.

    that made me really take stock and look at my kids, and their habits. i don't want my kids to be the chubby miserable teenagers at school.
  • mandeiko
    mandeiko Posts: 1,657 Member
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    I've got a raging boner now

    Lmao, girl :heart: :drinker:
  • woou
    woou Posts: 668 Member
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    My mommy never called me a princess D;. Or that I was precious .___.;; She told me to not be stupid like all the other kids and do well in school XD.

    My mom called me by my name or my nickname (which is a short version of my name). :smile:
  • ket_the_jet
    ket_the_jet Posts: 1,257 Member
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    I'm pretty sure my 4-year old, even though he loves Spiderman, knows that he'll never be able to shoot webs from his wrists and scale tall buildings.
    Not with that attitude.
    -wtk
  • summalovaable
    summalovaable Posts: 287 Member
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    It's a little ironic to the people saying "Oh I always watched that, you're reading too much in to it little girls don't look at it that way at all." You're right. They don't. However, our foundations as children make who we are as adults. There's a quite famous quote by B.F. skinner that states

    "Give me a dozen healthy infants ... and my own specified world to bring them up in and I'll guarantee to take any one at random and train him to become any type of specialist I might select — doctor, lawyer, artist, merchant-chief and yes, even beggar-man and thief, regardless of his talents, penchants, tendencies, abilities, vocations, and race of his ancestors."

    You may bring a child to be anything you wish, as long as these foundations are shaped into their early child hood. No, disney princess never told you you were fat. YOU likely have told yourself that, and where do you think these little ideas were implanted?

    P.S. I love princess movies, I still watch them as often as I can, but that doesn't mean that the underlying messages aren't somewhat affecting little children. And for those of you saying "you're reading WAY to far into this" keep in mind, there are ENTIRE university courses dedicated to this kind of stuff. There's no such thing as over analyzing.... usually :) Unless you want to start into some type low carb vs all carb debate, then you might be over analyzing a little too much ;)
  • LisaKyle11
    LisaKyle11 Posts: 662 Member
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    And by the way, I hate that people call them "Disney" princesses. Most of them are characters from European fairy tales from hundreds of years ago.

    yes, this too.

    i don't let this whole thing get to me anymore. it used to... i would get in heated conversations/debates with others about it all, but truth be told, i still enjoy(ed) the 'real' stories/fairy tales before they became 'Disney' and i still enjoy most of the Disney movies that include these princesses. Jasmine is my fav!
  • TheShelterCat
    TheShelterCat Posts: 160
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    I'm pretty sure my 4-year old, even though he loves Spiderman, knows that he'll never be able to shoot webs from his wrists and scale tall buildings.
    Not with that attitude.
    -wtk

    :smile:
  • kmbrooks15
    kmbrooks15 Posts: 941 Member
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    Normally, I'd agree with you, but with the constant pressure in this country on younger and younger girls to be thin, it can be a bit concerning. My daughter is 12 and is already talking about counting calories even though she is slim already. Little girls grow up playing with Barbies with their insane figures, then they see Disney princesses all looking so skinny. I will say, though, that the girls that dress as these characters at the Disney parks are slim, but not unhealthy slim, so at least the real women they use have reasonable figures.

    That's when you as a parent step in and guide your kids, explaining that Disney is not real, healthy doesn't mean stick thin, etc.

    Exactly. I've been telling my daughter that she does not need to lose weight and to just concentrate on being healthy. The problem is that many parents don't step in. I see it in my daughter's friends on a regular basis and have to try to counteract that influence from her friends, which is often more powerful than the influence from Disney characters or Barbies or whatever.
  • SkateboardFi
    SkateboardFi Posts: 1,322 Member
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    And by the way, I hate that people call them "Disney" princesses. Most of them are characters from European fairy tales from hundreds of years ago.

    yep. and most of them did NOT have a happy ending..especially cinderella LMAO
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
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    I'm pretty sure my 4-year old, even though he loves Spiderman, knows that he'll never be able to shoot webs from his wrists and scale tall buildings.
    Not with that attitude.
    -wtk

    Love!
  • SPheonix22
    SPheonix22 Posts: 90 Member
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    What about all the social pressures of the men? :p

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    Yeah, but at least you guys have a couple things to fall back on.
  • sparklesammy
    sparklesammy Posts: 465 Member
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    I know that this thread has been about how unrealistic the Disney princesses were but if i had to pick one for a role model it would be Belle.

    She can read, she is a deep thinker. She is sought after by the stereotypical "good catch" gaston but she turns him down becasue she wants someone with a bit more substance. she sacrifices her freedom for someone she loves and stands her ground in the face of opression, and manages to change her oppressors outlook by repaying his initial ill-treatment with kindness and patience.

    And she has a lovely voice : )

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