80/10/10--I'm doing it!

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  • iulia_maddie
    iulia_maddie Posts: 2,780 Member
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    But, but!! Don't you like muscle??
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
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    But, but!! Don't you like muscle??
    but but...what about nutrients? How the frig are you suppose to absorb any of them?!

    And wow, my allowance for the day would basically be a chicken breast for protein and the tablespoon of olive oil I cooked it in....Then off to the wheat fields? 'Cause a lot of my other foods contain both fat and protein :/
  • holothuroidea
    holothuroidea Posts: 772 Member
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    -Nobody with adequate access to plant foods needs to eat eggs to live.

    I beg to differ.... without the eggs in a female's body, nobody would live

    /endthread

    Last time I checked, we don't reproduce by eating eggs.

    eating something usually leads to reproduction though... (brown chicken brown cow)

    sorry, I edited my original comment cause the first time reading it I missed the "to eat" part

    Ahaha! Then I edited mine because I saw you edited yours!!

    That was awesome.
  • holothuroidea
    holothuroidea Posts: 772 Member
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    But, but!! Don't you like muscle??
    but but...what about nutrients? How the frig are you suppose to absorb any of them?!

    And wow, my allowance for the day would basically be a chicken breast and a lot of my other foods contain protein :/

    Yeah, and you'd have to eat it raw. And then you couldn't eat any fruits or veggies because they also contain fat and protein and would put you over. You'd have to eat nothing but raw sugar for the rest of the day.

    Yummy.
  • rabies
    rabies Posts: 62
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    This is the dumbest diet I've ever heard of, including what I found when I googled "hcg diet".
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
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    Wow. Considering protein and fat is an essential nutrient, and protein helps support LBM and fat helps absorb nutrients...this may possibly be the most *kitten*-up diet I've ever seen.

    Ain't nothin wrong with *kitten*-up.
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
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    Yeah, and you'd have to eat it raw. And then you couldn't eat any fruits or veggies because they also contain fat and protein and would put you over. You'd have to eat nothing but raw sugar for the rest of the day.

    Yummy.
    The kid in me tells me this is alright. I mean, this is how I use to power a lot of my scooter runs. Go go gadget sugar packets.
  • iulia_maddie
    iulia_maddie Posts: 2,780 Member
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    But, but!! Don't you like muscle??
    but but...what about nutrients? How the frig are you suppose to absorb any of them?!

    And wow, my allowance for the day would basically be a chicken breast and a lot of my other foods contain protein :/

    Yeah, and you'd have to eat it raw. And then you couldn't eat any fruits or veggies because they also contain fat and protein and would put you over. You'd have to eat nothing but raw sugar for the rest of the day.

    Yummy.
    Wait..this is starting to sound good...:laugh:
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
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    But, but!! Don't you like muscle??
    but but...what about nutrients? How the frig are you suppose to absorb any of them?!

    And wow, my allowance for the day would basically be a chicken breast and a lot of my other foods contain protein :/

    Yeah, and you'd have to eat it raw. And then you couldn't eat any fruits or veggies because they also contain fat and protein and would put you over. You'd have to eat nothing but raw sugar for the rest of the day.

    Yummy.
    Wait..this is starting to sound good...:laugh:
    iulia_maddie...my house for some movies and sugar packets?
  • _SABOTEUR_
    _SABOTEUR_ Posts: 6,833 Member
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    Here's some vegan facts for you:

    If people eat fewer animals, there will be less violence towards them.

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  • skinnytayy
    skinnytayy Posts: 459
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    ^ That's what I'm saying ... I follow the Primal diet (close to Paleo). Honestly I don't even care if there is science or no science behind it ... I feel like a brand new person eating this way. The health benefits inside & out are incredible. But Primal/Paleo makes sense ... you don't really need science to tell you that in the paleolithic era they didn't eat bread, spaghetti, poptarts, etc.

    Raw veganism is just ridiculous, in my opinion. Mostly because the reasoning behind it makes absolutely no sense. I may take a little heat for this but I'll go as far as saying all vegan, vegetarian, raw, etc. diets are stupid in my eyes.

    So you don't care if the reasoning behind primal/paleo makes sense, but the reasoning behind raw foodism, vegetarianism and veganism are stupid because the reasoning behind them makes no sense...

    "STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE"


    You took everything I said completely out of context or maybe I just didn't word it right. Either way that's not what I meant. For me and the way I live, any raw diet, vegan diet, etc. is stupid. It wouldn't work for me. In regards to this 80/10/10 crap and yes its total crap, it wouldn't work for me and probably not anyone else. Maybe short term but not long term. There isn't evidence to back up the opinions that vegans and the like have on meat and/or animal products being bad. All animal products have health benefits and that's a fact proven time & time again. Sure there are ridiculous studies that come out from time to time but its that way with anything. Since the beginning of time, people have ate meat. Maybe not everyone but the majority and we've all did just fine.

    As for Paleo/Primal, there is science behind it. Science that I believe to be true. Besides that, a lot of it is common sense. I simply stated that I didn't CARE if the science was BS or true, I know what it does for me and I've seen what its done for others. You can't say paleo/primal eating is bad ... fruits, vegetables, healthy fats, and meat are all good for you. Processed garbage isn't good for you and really there is no benefit to eating grains. Everything found in grains that could be beneficial can be found in a vegetable or something else. The only thing I disagree on with the Paleo approach is the cutting out of dairy which is why I'm primal. You can look at thousands of people who eat primal/paleo and see how healthy they are .. many share their blood test before & afters, pictures, talk about problems that have completely vanished .. Clearly there is a link. So even if the science is BS, the people I've came across/met have shared their experiences which are true.

    Basically all I was trying to say was I didn't care if paleo/primal had no science, I'd still eat the way I do. Never said there wasn't science or that I didn't believe it. Veganism, raw foodism, etc. makes no sense (common sense wise) nor have i came across research that would support their (the people who follow it) beliefs. Also I never said I cared if people ate a specific way and I've never tried convincing someone to eat how I do so the whole "stop liking things i don't like" doesn't even come close to describing me or how I feel. I couldn't care less if a person eats nothing but cookies everyday but if asked, I'll tell them its stupid because that's MY opinion.
  • holothuroidea
    holothuroidea Posts: 772 Member
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    Mcbwhitney- Do you have any counterpoints, or did you just really really want to post that picture?

    It is a very funny picture, I completely understand.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,704 Member
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    80/10/10 is a raw vegan diet fad...I will just politely say that setting percentages for macros doesn't work and that this diet highly ignores the fact that protein and fat are ESSENTIAL nutrients whereas carbohydrates are non-essential and should be determined based on physical activity.

    These type of dieters do ridiculous things like eating nothing but fruit in ridiculous amounts all day and often these people have serious fears (orthorexics) about fat and consumption of animal products as being "toxic"

    Consumption of animal products IS toxic. That is the ONLY place Cholesterol is found. And, what is the number one cause of death in the US right now? Heart disease. What causes heart disease, you ask? Cholesterol. :)
    Lol, you do realize you need cholesterol for production of hormones in the body? And that dietary cholesterol isn't the same as the cholesterol that clogs arteries.
    Trans fat is the issue here.

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  • rabies
    rabies Posts: 62
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    Once more, for emphasis: this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
  • _SABOTEUR_
    _SABOTEUR_ Posts: 6,833 Member
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    Mcbwhitney- Do you have any counterpoints, or did you just really really want to post that picture?

    It is a very funny picture, I completely understand.

    Nope. I'm good living my life rather than dictating to others what they should do in theirs. :drinker:


    p.s. That drink is animal blood. Enjoy.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    But, but!! Don't you like muscle??
    but but...what about nutrients? How the frig are you suppose to absorb any of them?!

    And wow, my allowance for the day would basically be a chicken breast for protein and the tablespoon of olive oil I cooked it in....Then off to the wheat fields? 'Cause a lot of my other foods contain both fat and protein :/

    Don't you know you're not supposed to mix fat and carbs anyways?
  • _SABOTEUR_
    _SABOTEUR_ Posts: 6,833 Member
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    But, but!! Don't you like muscle??
    but but...what about nutrients? How the frig are you suppose to absorb any of them?!

    And wow, my allowance for the day would basically be a chicken breast for protein and the tablespoon of olive oil I cooked it in....Then off to the wheat fields? 'Cause a lot of my other foods contain both fat and protein :/

    Don't you know you're not supposed to mix fat and carbs anyways?

    How the hell am I meant to eat cake then?
  • jfrankic
    jfrankic Posts: 747 Member
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    You sure know how to put the die into diet...

    I guess all the carbs have to comes from unprocessed fruit and veg as well?

    Congratulations, you've become a rabbit:

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    I'll meet your rabbit and raise you a group of hungry owls eating a tasty long-tailed critter! Okay, okay....I really just look for any excuse to use this gif.

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  • rabies
    rabies Posts: 62
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    You sure know how to put the die into diet...

    I guess all the carbs have to comes from unprocessed fruit and veg as well?

    Congratulations, you've become a rabbit:

    10miovc.gif

    I'll meet your rabbit and raise you a group of hungry owls eating a tasty long-tailed critter! Okay, okay....I really just look for any excuse to use this gif.

    crazy-owls_zps1e469afc.gif
    Those owls are friggin' adorable!

    Remember, no matter what you eat, you need to work out. Like this!
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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    But, but!! Don't you like muscle??
    but but...what about nutrients? How the frig are you suppose to absorb any of them?!

    And wow, my allowance for the day would basically be a chicken breast for protein and the tablespoon of olive oil I cooked it in....Then off to the wheat fields? 'Cause a lot of my other foods contain both fat and protein :/

    Don't you know you're not supposed to mix fat and carbs anyways?

    How the hell am I meant to eat cake then?

    You're not. Cake isn't found in nature.

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