water intake - relating to coffee, liquids, salt, etc

shale367

I log only water as water.....I log my coffee and other drinks for my calories

killagb

i log coffee, tea, juice, soda, and water as water. that said, i drink coffee maybe 3 times a week, tea about half that and juice and soda are a couple times a month, if that.
its all water, and the dehydrating effects arent really so serious that you dont get any benefit at all from the water the drink is made from.
i never thought to add soup as water intake, but i dont eat/drink a lot of soup either.

wtf :huh:

what about that is wtf worthy? o.O

I think they were just surprised that you count everything as water. *serious question* how to do log soda? 12oz soda= ? oz water

12oz soda = 12 oz water.

ok........it just seems weird to me but as one of the above users said "to each their own"

I thought it was warranted... Your body is estimated to be about 60 to 70 percent water, so why would you want to replace that with soda, coffee, juice etc.

And just what percentage of water are the drinks you named? Do tell.

agentscully514

HMonsterX, I love you so much for always fighting the fight. it only proves that the majority of people don't care about evidence.

HauteP1nk

I only log water as water because only water is water...lol

My running coach told me that coffee, tea, pop, etc is a diuretic...which means it draws water from your body. She advised that for every cup of coffee/tea/pop you drink it should be replaced with TWO glasses of water.

christinal83

Because it tastes good.

replying to jcr85

Kona54

water is water..everything else is a beverage...they have to go through your kidneys..water helps flush out toxins..and fat..so drink tons of water...

rockerbabyy

I thought it was warranted... Your body is estimated to be about 60 to 70 percent water, so why would you want to replace that with soda, coffee, juice etc.

and i asked why you felt it was warrented
did you miss the part where i said i drink coffee MAYBE 3 days a week? or tea half as often? and soda and juice 2 times a month?
whether i drink those things or not, i still drink around 8 glasses or more of water a day.
i drink coffee to help wake me up in the mornings to take my daughter to school. i drink soda because i like the taste and the bubbles. and i drink juice because sometimes i like to drink my fruit, so ill grab a bottle of Naked and chug it.

laddyboy

It says water consumption not Water, Coffee, Tea and Just. Water. Nuff Said. But just to make a point. WATER!!! ONLY LOG WATER!!!

killagb

water is water..everything else is a beverage...they have to go through your kidneys..water helps flush out toxins..and fat..so drink tons of water...

So water doesn't get filtered through your kidneys? You have weird kidneys.

killagb

It says water consumption not Water, Coffee, Tea and Just. Water. Nuff Said. But just to make a point. WATER!!! ONLY LOG WATER!!!

Do some research. Nuff said.

killagb

I only log water as water because only water is water...lol

My running coach told me that coffee, tea, pop, etc is a diuretic...which means it draws water from your body. She advised that for every cup of coffee/tea/pop you drink it should be replaced with TWO glasses of water.

Newsflash...water is a diuretic. Your running coach is incorrect.

Here's a few points to chew on....but you can find a whole lot of information on this subject out there.
http://www.npr.org/2008/04/03/89323934/five-myths-about-drinking-water

kiesh82

I don't log water...logging food is quite enough. I just make sure I refill my 20 oz water bottle 3-4 times a day which comes easy for me b/c I don't really like juice and soda, and coffee makes me feel crappy so that's a no go as well. That whole coffee as water thing doesn't sound right to me but to each their own.

CoderGal

Really, can't we all have a conversation without sarcastic-ing the hell out of eachother. If we were all perfect and knew everything like professional water chemist weight looser doctors then we wouldn't be here...And I'm sure of those doctors exist if they were smart enough they'd admit they don't have all the answers.

I apologize to the people who are being harassed due to this thread. I was clearly delusional when I thought adults could be adults and talk about water without having any "I'm better then you because my water is different then yours" conversations.

We're allowed to have different opinions.

2Bgoddess

So, we should be really accurate about this, the water you drink should not be logged as water, because it contains sodium and minerals, not just water....

Nice sarcasm. Anyway, that's not what I was trying to imply. If you're drinking or eating things that should be flushed out, you should drink water after. I can't see any side arguing that as a bad thing (given that you haven't had copious amounts of water)

That's not sarcasm. It's splitting hairs. Or nit-picking. Tongue-in-cheek, if you will.

HMonsterX

I only log water as water because only water is water...lol

My running coach told me that coffee, tea, pop, etc is a diuretic...which means it draws water from your body. She advised that for every cup of coffee/tea/pop you drink it should be replaced with TWO glasses of water.

How about actually reading this thread, instead of just hitting reply? If that were true, how can people live on purely tea and coffee? By your logic, theyd be dead.

killagb

Really, can't we all have a conversation without sarcastic-ing the hell out of eachother. If we were all perfect and knew everything like professional water chemist weight looser doctors then we wouldn't be here...And I'm sure of those doctors exist if they were smart enough they'd admit they don't have all the answers.

I apologize to the people who are being harassed due to this thread. I was clearly delusional when I thought adults could be adults and talk about water without having any "I'm better then you because my water is different then yours" conversations.

We're allowed to have different opinions.

This is why we can't have nice things.

RodrickF

I just read recently that Coffee isn't dehydrating, although it is a mild diuretic. That study showed that the body's hydration level only increases with cofee consumption. I log my tea and coffee consumption as if it was pure water. That said, there's nothing better for you than pure water. Except for maybe cofee and tea! :-)

CoderGal

That's it, I'm going to my room to eat chocolate truffles, and I'm not going to drink water after :P

HMonsterX

We're allowed to have different opinions.

Yes, we are ofc.

However, some of us bring FACTS, not personal opinions. Others try to pass off personal opinion as FACT.

That's the point.

RodrickF

How about a nice cup of green tea instead? Although I haven't completely replaced my three-pot-a-day coffee adiction with pure water yet, green tea has taken over my afternoon and evening liquid consumption. It might just be better for you than pure water!
I do still drink a 16 once glass of water with or before every meal.

traceymonroe

Water is water...I work in healthcare. When I calculate IV fluids & feeding tubes, a portion of the ingredients as H2O, while other parts are of something else. For instance, soup. It certainly counts has a fluid, however you cannot count it towards water due to the fact that if you broke it down, there would be traces of whatever is mixed into the mixture (the solid). Same with soda...phosphates, sodium nitrates, etc. are all a solid form. Allow a soda or tea to sit in a glass for a month & you will see the residue in the glass. I think the message here is to flush our bodies with something that has no additional ingredients in which may cause bloating, etc. And yes, caffiene is a diuretic. Meaning that it absorbs fluids from our bowels, and other parts of our bodies which can increase risk for dehydration & could even increase risk of constipation for others. So, with that said I recommend only going by what it states: WATER. MFP has done an excellent job breaking down all the nutrients based on a persons size, age, ht, gender, etc. The ONLY thing that I recommend is that if your a smaller person you may only need about 1500ml to 1750 mls per day, whereas a larger person may require closer to 3000mls of fluids....a good portion of this should be from H2O mainly b/c it's better for your teeth, and flushing our bodies (bowels) to aid with transit of fecal defication. I could go into more details, however it would be over the head of the general public. So take my word: only count water as water- when the hospital is counting "fluids" it is for hydration purposes only. In dietetics we count water to aid with weight loss (flushing the system) in which cannot be done properly from drinking just anything. When I calculate a feeding tube, I have to a) make sure the body is receiving enough fluids for their needs & b) that they are getting enough WATER. The average tube feed has only .805 per 1000ml of H2O, basically a ratio of approx 800ml of water per 1000ml bag. I could break down & do the same with any beverage that contains additives...very scientific. I have recommended this site to many of my clients trying to loose weight, the only other thing I suggest is increasing the amount of fiber. I'm a smaller person, so the 17 grams of fiber per day that MFP recommends is way low. The recommended amount to protect againist colon cancer or diverticulosis (for instance). I feel that most individuals should get at the least 25 grams per day. Just remember, it is not so much about urination as it is defication. Yeah, any "fluid" will cause frequent urination. However, water aids the bowels so much more...as well has fiber & exercise. It all works in sync together.

CoderGal

and some people use what they think are facts to try and attack other people. Why can't we all be nice. Let's sit in a circle and sing Kumbaya

CoderGal

RodrickF: How do you feel since you switched to tea?

HMonsterX

and some people use what they think are facts to try and attack other people. Why can't we all be nice. Let's sit in a circle and sing Kumbaya

I dont attack anyone, i just present evidence to back up what i say. Why don't the people who say coffee dehydrates do the same, rather than just saying the much-touted myth with no actual backup?

SergeantSunshine_reused

I have had about 2 pots of coffee in less than 24 hours. YAY college -.-

I didn't log it, but still had some plain water for something cold. I'm plenty hydrated. And sleepy xD

CoderGal

Water is water...I work in healthcare. When I calculate IV fluids & feeding tubes, a portion of the ingredients as H2O, while other parts are of something else. For instance, soup. It certainly counts has a fluid, however you cannot count it towards water due to the fact that if you broke it down, there would be traces of whatever is mixed into the mixture (the solid). Same with soda...phosphates, sodium nitrates, etc. are all a solid form...

Thank you tracey, you said exactly what I meant to say but didn't know how to get out in the beginning of your message. I was waiting for someone with some background in something.

SergeantSunshine_reused

and some people use what they think are facts to try and attack other people. Why can't we all be nice. Let's sit in a circle and sing Kumbaya

I dont attack anyone, i just present evidence to back up what i say. Why don't the people who say coffee dehydrates do the same, rather than just saying the much-touted myth with no actual backup?

I agree with this ^^

He makes people think. Challenging others to use their brain and think about what they are saying before they spout off more myths. "attacking" is not happening at all.

SergeantSunshine_reused

Water is water...I work in healthcare. When I calculate IV fluids & feeding tubes, a portion of the ingredients as H2O, while other parts are of something else. For instance, soup. It certainly counts has a fluid, however you cannot count it towards water due to the fact that if you broke it down, there would be traces of whatever is mixed into the mixture (the solid). Same with soda...phosphates, sodium nitrates, etc. are all a solid form...

So if I put a carrot in my water then it is no longer water? I don't get it :P

Just because it was mixed does not take away from the fact there is still water in it. I learned in one of first nutrition courses that you get plenty of water from foods too.

JenS826

Thank you for all this information!

CoderGal

I have had about 2 pots of coffee in less than 24 hours. YAY college -.-

I didn't log it, but still had some plain water for something cold. I'm plenty hydrated. And sleepy xD

I was half interested in this thread because I was drinking up to about 4 cups a day and then I stopped and started having a coffee once every few days. Anyway, what prompted the message is that I've been half experimenting and drinking what I consider to be to much water. Anyway, I gotta say I feel absolutely great, and alert! I had one cup of coffee earlier today. It may also have something to do with my diet, I'm not sure.