Your thighs on cheese... HAHAHA!

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  • Reasie26
    Reasie26 Posts: 102 Member

    To me, your choice seems like cognitive dissonance. Can you please explain to me how your ignorance of the obvious fact that an animal was murdered and is now sitting on your plate makes you feel good, even though you you damn well know what took place to get that meat there? I truly dislike hunters, however I respect their attitude more than yours.
    It's not murder.

    mur·der   [mur-der]
    noun
    1. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder).



    Semantics don't change the fact that it's disturbing and disgusting. If your pet was treated the way the animals are in the meat/dairy industry, I think people *might* cry out, "Murder!" I'll skip the vivid imagery......there are resources for that. Besides, I'm sure you've all seen it already and just don't give a rip, right? Okay.
  • AlbertPooHoles
    AlbertPooHoles Posts: 530 Member
    Semantics don't change the fact that it's disturbing and disgusting. If your pet was treated the way the animals are in the meat/dairy industry, I think people *might* cry out, "Murder!" I'll skip the vivid imagery......there are resources for that. Besides, I'm sure you've all seen it already and just don't give a rip, right? Okay.
    Right! :drinker:

    Live and let live, Sweetheart!
  • Thomasm198
    Thomasm198 Posts: 3,189 Member

    Semantics don't change the fact that it's disturbing and disgusting. If your pet was treated the way the animals are in the meat/dairy industry, I think people *might* cry out, "Murder!" I'll skip the vivid imagery......there are resources for that. Besides, I'm sure you've all seen it already and just don't give a rip, right? Okay.

    Nope, I couldn't care less.

    And do you want to know why I don't care? Because people treat other people far worse than the way animals are treated in the meat/dairy industry.

    Which is worse? The way animals are treated by the meat/dairy industry or the things people do to other people?
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member

    Semantics don't change the fact that it's disturbing and disgusting. If your pet was treated the way the animals are in the meat/dairy industry, I think people *might* cry out, "Murder!" I'll skip the vivid imagery......there are resources for that. Besides, I'm sure you've all seen it already and just don't give a rip, right? Okay.

    Nope, I couldn't care less.

    And do you want to know why I don't care? Because people treat other people far worse than the way animals are treated in the meat/dairy industry.

    Which is worse? The way animals are treated by the meat/dairy industry or the things people do to other people?

    To me, brutality is brutality. I don't countenance any of it.
  • kennethmgreen
    kennethmgreen Posts: 1,759 Member
    It's not murder.

    mur·der   [mur-der]
    noun
    1. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder).
    Morrissey would disagree.
  • MichelleRenee13
    MichelleRenee13 Posts: 363 Member

    Semantics don't change the fact that it's disturbing and disgusting. If your pet was treated the way the animals are in the meat/dairy industry, I think people *might* cry out, "Murder!" I'll skip the vivid imagery......there are resources for that. Besides, I'm sure you've all seen it already and just don't give a rip, right? Okay.

    Nope, I couldn't care less.

    And do you want to know why I don't care? Because people treat other people far worse than the way animals are treated in the meat/dairy industry.

    Which is worse? The way animals are treated by the meat/dairy industry or the things people do to other people?

    I don't understand that line of reasoning. So, as long as humans treat humans poorly....it makes no difference that anything thing else on the planet suffers? Makes no sense.
  • MichelleRenee13
    MichelleRenee13 Posts: 363 Member
    As far as the billboard goes...freedom of speech. I see billboards everyday that are trying to bring people over to a certain way of thinking. I say just ignore such things if they aren't your cup of tea.
  • april522
    april522 Posts: 388 Member
    Calling my honest reaction to your original statement an 'incorrect one', when I am conveying my feelings is quite presumptuous. I feel sad for the animals you eat. I also feel sad you feel a lack empathy for the animals you eat. There's no need to tell me that I am 'incorrect' to feel or think a certain way. I just do.
    Some people are way too sensitive on here. If someone told me my initial reaction to a statement they made was not correct and then explained what they meant, I wouldn't think anything of it. But hey, that's just me. I guess everybody's different. In no way "phrase" meant to be insulting and degrading, or presumptous.
  • april522
    april522 Posts: 388 Member
    As far as the billboard goes...freedom of speech. I see billboards everyday that are trying to bring people over to a certain way of thinking. I say just ignore such things if they aren't your cup of tea.
    Oh, I agree. I just thought they were funny.
  • april522
    april522 Posts: 388 Member
    To me, your choice seems like cognitive dissonance. Can you please explain to me how your ignorance of the obvious fact that an animal was murdered and is now sitting on your plate makes you feel good, even though you you damn well know what took place to get that meat there? I truly dislike hunters, however I respect their attitude more than yours.
    :laugh: Now I'm beginning to understand why so many people speak so ill of vegans. I was just defending vegans the other day when telling my boyfriend about all of these billboards, etc. (apologies to those who aren't extremist). I honestly don't care if you respect my attitude regarding my choice to eat meat; I don't even know you. It's my choice, and I will eat what I want. Period. If that makes you hate me, so be it. If that means you don't respect me, so be it. It that means you think I'm an awful person, so be it. *yawns* This topic is getting boring now. Seems to be the same repetitive 'arguements' over and over.
  • MattGetsMad
    MattGetsMad Posts: 429 Member
    lol... Can't believe this thing is still going!
  • Honestly, you can take my cheese from my cold dead hands. I don't think it is cheese as much as we have become a lazy nation that relies on "fast" food. Less and less we are cooking for ourselves, so we aren't paying any mind to the fact that we are eating crazy amounts of food in a sitting and doing nothing to work it off.
  • bridies01
    bridies01 Posts: 57 Member
    I hope that there are no major health consequences for consuming animals.


    Good news! There aren't. We've sort of been doing it since forever..

    Yes eating too much can eventually lead to heart trouble or other things, but that's not exclusive to meat. If you think vegans live forever I have bad news to give you.

    I think the problem is less about eating meat/no meat/dairy, etc (I'm a vegetarian FWIW, but will cook meat on occasion for the family, I just never liked meat) and more about all the processing and additives that are in foods today. It's possible to be a completely unhealthy vegan. I don't really believe that all the highly processed vegan meat substitutes are any better for you than Kraft mac & cheese.

    I think "The Omnivore's Dilemma" was a great read on this subject. We are able to eat a variety of foods, and if we eat foods grown in a sustainable, responsible, least processed way, we will be fine.
  • april522
    april522 Posts: 388 Member
    No, but there actually is a study that indicates that brighter people are attracted to veganism.
    Could you tell me what institution or organization did this study and what year the study was conducted? I'd love to look up that research.

    In the meantime, I need to go take my online quiz for marketing before heading to class. I apparently need to work on my IQ since I consume meat. 24.gif
  • No, but there actually is a study that indicates that brighter people are attracted to veganism.
    Could you tell me what institution or organization did this study and what year the study was conducted? I'd love to look up that research.

    In the meantime, I need to go take my online quiz for marketing before heading to class. I apparently need to work on my IQ since I consume meat. 24.gif

    The German Cancer Society. This was a very famous 25 study done by Jenny Cheng-Claude, and I had a copy of it, but cannot find it now. You can still read about it on the internet :

    http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/vegetarians-live-longer.html

    The vegetarian cohort correlated not only for longer life, and fewer chronic diseases, but also for higher intelligence. You have to get a copy of the study and read it, because, as I remember that correlation only comes out in the study. They were also wealthier than the other cohorts if I remember correctly.
  • And here is an anti-vegetarian article from Psychology Today that tries to explain why Vegetarians are brighter than non-vegetarians.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201005/why-vegetarians-are-more-intelligent-meat-eaters
  • And here's another:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6180753.stm

    Or you could just read the posts on this message board.
  • Thank you for making that request and forcing me to look at current sources. I didn't know about the Southhampton Study:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6180753.stm

    This appears to be an even stronger study showing the relationship between vegetarianism and high intelligence. I am thinking of starting a thread on the subject of Vegetarians being brighter than non-Vegetarians. I always knew that was true, but now there appears to be a great deal of scientific evidence to back that up.

    You might consider having a tofu sandwich before taking your quiz.
  • lynheff
    lynheff Posts: 393 Member
    amen to that. Italians love cheeses too and we hardly ever saw an overweight Italian woman in northern Italy when we lived there. Of course they walk and ride bikes a lot. Mostly 'cause parking is so hard.
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
    Thank you for making that request and forcing me to look at current sources. I didn't know about the Southhampton Study:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6180753.stm

    This appears to be an even stronger study showing the relationship between vegetarianism and high intedlligence. I am thinking of starting a thread on the subject of Vegetarians being brighter than non-Vegetarians. I always knew that was true, but now there appears to be a great deal of scientific evidence to back that up.

    You might consider having a tofu sandwich before taking your quiz.
    I'll go ahead assume that was on purpose for trolling, for your own sake.
  • AlbertPooHoles
    AlbertPooHoles Posts: 530 Member
    I am thinking of starting a thread on the subject of Vegetarians being brighter than non-Vegetarians.
    Yes, it will do wonders for convincing people, just like all of your other comments. :huh:
  • hope516
    hope516 Posts: 1,133 Member
    lol!! thank you all so much I am willing to bet I burned a few calories with this laugh :laugh:

    granted they were meat eating calories but calories nonetheless:blushing:

    mmmmmm I want beef :love:
  • lol!! thank you all so much I am willing to bet I burned a few calories with this laugh :laugh:

    granted they were meat eating calories but calories nonetheless:blushing:

    mmmmmm I want beef :love:

    Like I said, you could read the studies or just read the posts on this board.
  • Cberg9
    Cberg9 Posts: 123
    I hope that there are no major health consequences for consuming animals.


    Good news! There aren't. We've sort of been doing it since forever..

    Yes eating too much can eventually lead to heart trouble or other things, but that's not exclusive to meat. If you think vegans live forever I have bad news to give you.

    HAHHA I like this ^^
  • april522
    april522 Posts: 388 Member
    Thank you for making that request and forcing me to look at current sources. I didn't know about the Southhampton Study:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6180753.stm

    This appears to be an even stronger study showing the relationship between vegetarianism and high intedlligence. I am thinking of starting a thread on the subject of Vegetarians being brighter than non-Vegetarians. I always knew that was true, but now there appears to be a great deal of scientific evidence to back that up.

    You might consider having a tofu sandwich before taking your quiz.
    I had a super yummy grilled chicken salad! :happy: And I did very well on my quiz, thank you very much! An 88 isn't bad for just reading over the material once and then taking a quiz to test memory. 69.gif
  • hope516
    hope516 Posts: 1,133 Member
    lol!! thank you all so much I am willing to bet I burned a few calories with this laugh :laugh:

    granted they were meat eating calories but calories nonetheless:blushing:

    mmmmmm I want beef :love:

    Like I said, you could read the studies or just read the posts on this board.
    .

    Why don't we read your studies instead? Your holier-than-thou pompous attitude is all anyone needs to read. I am willing to bet there is a postitve correlation between veganism and *kitten*-ism......eat a damn cheeseburger you'll feel better :wink:
  • april522
    april522 Posts: 388 Member
    Why don't we read your studies instead? Your holier-than-thou pompous attitude is all anyone needs to read. I am willing to bet there is a postitve correlation between veganism and *kitten*-ism......eat a damn cheeseburger you'll feel better :wink:
    I seriously spit water out from laughing at this! You know, it's the attitudes of this particular vegan that would TURN OFF someone that might be on the fence about being vegetarian or not.

    And she says "read the posts on this board" as if that proves one diet plan is better than the other. All the stuff posted here in purely opinions stated in some form or another.
  • anthony438
    anthony438 Posts: 578 Member
    lol!! thank you all so much I am willing to bet I burned a few calories with this laugh :laugh:

    granted they were meat eating calories but calories nonetheless:blushing:

    mmmmmm I want beef :love:

    Like I said, you could read the studies or just read the posts on this board.
    .

    Why don't we read your studies instead? Your holier-than-thou pompous attitude is all anyone needs to read. I am willing to bet there is a postitve correlation between veganism and *kitten*-ism......eat a damn cheeseburger you'll feel better :wink:

    Great, now I want a cheeseburger!

    DAMN YOU!!!!!
  • AlbertPooHoles
    AlbertPooHoles Posts: 530 Member
    Why don't we read your studies instead? Your holier-than-thou pompous attitude is all anyone needs to read. I am willing to bet there is a postitve correlation between veganism and *kitten*-ism......eat a damn cheeseburger you'll feel better :wink:
    I seriously spit water out from laughing at this! You know, it's the attitudes of this particular vegan that would TURN OFF someone that might be on the fence about being vegetarian or not.

    And she says "read the posts on this board" as if that proves one diet plan is better than the other. All the stuff posted here in purely opinions stated in some form or another.
    Thank God for the level-headed vegans out there, and knowing that the especially vocal, pushy, judgmental a**holes do not represent all of them.
  • hope516
    hope516 Posts: 1,133 Member
    Why don't we read your studies instead? Your holier-than-thou pompous attitude is all anyone needs to read. I am willing to bet there is a postitve correlation between veganism and *kitten*-ism......eat a damn cheeseburger you'll feel better :wink:
    I seriously spit water out from laughing at this! You know, it's the attitudes of this particular vegan that would TURN OFF someone that might be on the fence about being vegetarian or not.

    And she says "read the posts on this board" as if that proves one diet plan is better than the other. All the stuff posted here in purely opinions stated in some form or another.


    righhhhht????....

    so this is so totally off topic ((((my dumb meat eating brain makes me a tad ADD :grumble: )))) but you are a dead ringer for Courtney Thorne-smith... :laugh:
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