The Hunger Games
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If it were adults vs adults (running man) would you feel the same way?
It's hard to really be upset over a fictional story about non-existant characters doing something that isn't real.
Its no more heart wrenching or disturbing than Watership Down about rabbits that murder each other in a land battle over equal rights, or The Last Unicorn-about a man who is enslaving an entire race because they keep him feeling young...
Because it has children in it (again, none of this actually happens) it makes it hard to stomach?
It's not the first (Lord of The Flies) or last book that's going to be about children that turn on each other for the benefit of survival...
I have avoided all of those.
But, again, no one has said the books should be banned or that no one should read them or that they're evil. We're allowed to censor our OWN reading material, aren't we? If I know something's going to bother me (fictional or not), why would I subject myself to it?0 -
You youngsters may never have heard of this short story, but from the way you are enjoying The Hunger Games, I thought you might like to read this:
http://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lotry.html
Just read this - that was disturbing. My favorite short story is "The Most Dangerous Game." The movie they did many many years ago was terrible.0 -
It's a good series, but it's about kids killing kids. If the concept itself upsets you so much, you probably won't enjoy it. If they'd done all the deaths right, this movie could have been rated R.
This is the part that has me smh. I read the books, I enjoyed reading them. BEST BOOK EVER? No. I've loved other books more. I liked these, and read them quickly, because I liked the writer's style of cutting to the chase. The story was engrossing, and I was interested in/cared about most of the characters. (Kinda got PO'd at Katniss during book 3, but that's beside my point)
But I just do NOT understand how they were able to turn this into a PG-13 movie. There are so many scenes that were WAY too intense for PG-13. I'll try to leave out any spoilers, but the very last part of the battle that occurs right in front of the President's mansion (hint: parachutes), HOW are we going to show that in a movie????? Cannot fathom it. :noway:0 -
I can't believe this thread was revived
Anyone want a cookie? I have a bunch... and I like to share.
And for the record, I would be more down with it if it were adults. Doesn't necessarily make any sense, I realize... but it's my head and I just try to embrace my neurosis :bigsmile:0 -
But one of my favorite movies is Battle Royale. /shrug
Didn't this just come out on Blu Ray?? I never finshed watching it! The damn DVD I had was scratched .0 -
I finally started reading this and got through chapter 6 last night, and honestly, I'm bored to tears and horrified all at once. I don't think I'm going to finish it.
It doesn't help that she writes in present-tense. I never cared for that style.
Honestly, I seriously disliked the first book immensely. The second one was phenomenal, and the third was good, but not great. While they are a continuation of the same struggle, the focuses are so different, that there are different feels to them.0 -
Perhaps I am a prude... But I can't not imagine how this movie (book) is so popular when it's based on kids killing kids. It makes me sick every time I see the preview. My best friend insists it's AMAZING and I need to see it with her when it comes out... but no way. Unless all the kid's revolt against the Capitol or something and they all live happily ever after, I'm OK without seeing it :ohwell:
Am I the only one that finds it all so odd? Then again, I threw up after Lord of the Rings *LOL* So... there's your perspective
yeah cause there's no way the parents in the book could possibly agree with you and the kids would not want to kill each other... jeebus crispies people - you are all so friggin ready to hate stuff you havent experienced.
Where did she say she hates it? She said the idea of the plot is stomach-turning. I feel the same way. And I still feel the same way now that I've started reading it. I'm not saying it's morally wrong (the book, not the kids killing kids thing) or that no one should read it. But not every book/movie/song/whatever is for everyone.
Hard as it is to believe, there are people who are turned off by the plot and others who have read (or tried to read) the books and didn't like them.
It is extremely hard to understand someone being turned off by a plot they haven't read. Its being turned off by other individuals recaps and opinions without experiencing something for yourself - that bothers me.0 -
It is extremely hard to understand someone being turned off by a plot they haven't read. Its being turned off by other individuals recaps and opinions without experiencing something for yourself - that bothers me.
I've been reading for as long as I have memories, and possibly longer. My mother started reading to me probably in the womb and never stopped. Before I had my daughter, I read three or four novels a week and once she was old enough that she didn't need my full attention, I started that up again. I have a bachelor's degree in English lit. My "text books" were novels. I know what I like.
I can kind of tell by someone else's synopsis of a plot (or by reading the back of a book or flipping through it briefly) if it's going to be something I'm going to like.
I'm far more disturbed that someone is THIS angry over whether a person likes a book when that person has no influence over whether you read it or like it. We're entitled to make up our own minds based on our own life experiences.
Several different people described these books to me. I was very turned off by what they told me. But I gave the first book a shot. And guess what? I'm finding out that my first instinct was indeed correct.0 -
THIS angry?? ... I said I was bothered.
Congratulations on all your reading.0 -
All I can say is the movie is out! I'm going to see it tomorrow.
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This is the part that has me smh. I read the books, I enjoyed reading them. BEST BOOK EVER? No. I've loved other books more. I liked these, and read them quickly, because I liked the writer's style of cutting to the chase. The story was engrossing, and I was interested in/cared about most of the characters. (Kinda got PO'd at Katniss during book 3, but that's beside my point)
But I just do NOT understand how they were able to turn this into a PG-13 movie. There are so many scenes that were WAY too intense for PG-13. I'll try to leave out any spoilers, but the very last part of the battle that occurs right in front of the President's mansion (hint: parachutes), HOW are we going to show that in a movie????? Cannot fathom it. :noway:
That's scene happened in the last book.0 -
I'm concerned about the books a bit...but only because my 9 year old is reading them! I have read all 3 and I am allowing her to read them. She very badly wants to see the movie but I'm not sure that will happen. I think when you read we all have our own ideas in our imagination of how horrid the details of these murders are but when you see it on a screen from someone elses perspective it can bring a whole different idea into your mind.
The books are wonderful. So far I have read all three and my daughter is reading the second one. We have talked about it sooo much that my husband is now reading the first one and he too can NOT put it down(he is not even a big reader either).
It's a story but in all reality this kind of stuff is happening all around us. I think we are very narrowminded to pretend that we don't have children killing children all over the world. We just go about it a bit differnt and we have the option to ignore it.
The reasons I let my daughter read it:
1. The main character is a very strong girl
2. The main character sacrifices her own life to save her little sister...a great family lesson
3. It is a story of survival and again...a GIRL survivng when all the odds are against her at every turn.
4. I think it is a wonderful way for her to read literature in an entirely different atmosphere where there isn't always Rainbows and unicorns and the world IS a dark and scary place. It is a great way for her to be thankful for the life she has. even if it is a fiction story. It makes you realize that in all honsety our worl really isn't too far off from this story. We all watch the shootings and bombings and wars on the news every night...innocent people being sacrificed for the good of the majority.
It's a good series and I will have all three of my daughters read it as they get old enough.0 -
I've heard it compared to a japanese cult classic Battle Royale. Is this true?0
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I've heard it compared to a japanese cult classic Battle Royale. Is this true?
I have not read that, but from what I've read online and what others have said, the only difference is Hunger Games is teenagers and BR was adults.0 -
I've heard it compared to a japanese cult classic Battle Royale. Is this true?
I have not read that, but from what I've read online and what others have said, the only difference is Hunger Games is teenagers and BR was adults.
Have you had the chance to see BR? It is pretty good. I dont think that it is originally japanese, but I saw the Japanese one.0 -
I've heard it compared to a japanese cult classic Battle Royale. Is this true?
I have not read that, but from what I've read online and what others have said, the only difference is Hunger Games is teenagers and BR was adults.
Have you had the chance to see BR? It is pretty good. I dont think that it is originally japanese, but I saw the Japanese one.
No, I actually never heard of it until it was mentioned in this discussion (I think earlier in this thread)>
I started The Hunger Games a few days ago and after six chapters, decided it wasn't for me. So I don't think that BR will be, either. Just not my cup of tea. My daughter and many of my friends just adore HG, but I can't get into it. Every time I started reading it, I started longing for Harry Potter! lol
So, I decided to re-read HP instead of finishing HG. And I don't think I'm going to see the movie, either.0 -
Don't read Lord of the Flies , either, then. It's an entertaining series.
People killing others for the crowd's amusement isn't so far-fetched (gladiators, etc.). Reality shows are just one step away from that, really. Good old schadenfreude.0 -
New review for the movie:
spoilers included***********
http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-critic-reviews/the-hunger-games/
It says pretty much what I feared, by making the movie PG-13, it was stripped of all that was gripping about the book.0 -
I just started the second book yesterday. I really enjoyed the first one. I'll wait to see the movie either at home or when it's not so crowded at the theater.0
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Don't want to spoil it for anyone but it is more than just about kids killing other children. That's really only one part of the storyline in the first book. The second and third books have nothing to do with that, really.
That's encouraging
I needed to hear that. I'd be so much more down with this if it was adults... cause that's just good killing fun
I felt exactly the same. The previews gave me anxioty lol. A friend at work is obsessed and was pressureing me to read it. I saw a thread on here that kinda convinced me to give it a try. I read the serious in 4 days it was so good. My 14 year old picked the book up at school and while I was skeptical to let her read it she handled it great and finished it in two days.
Give it a try if you don't like it you don't have to finish it .0 -
Perhaps I am a prude... But I can't not imagine how this movie (book) is so popular when it's based on kids killing kids. It makes me sick every time I see the preview. My best friend insists it's AMAZING and I need to see it with her when it comes out... but no way. Unless all the kid's revolt against the Capitol or something and they all live happily ever after, I'm OK without seeing it :ohwell:
Am I the only one that finds it all so odd? Then again, I threw up after Lord of the Rings *LOL* So... there's your perspective
I'm guessing you didn't like Lord of the Flies?
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I don't think the books were "OMG AMAZING" but they were easy to read & had a good story. And I think people over look the teens-killing-teens thing because it's about more than that, that's just a little part of the whole. But I am definately going to see the movie, but not til next week and during the day so I can avoid all the teeny-boppers lol.0
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I don't know if kids should be reading this, but I must say that I LOVED the books, they definitely teach integrity. You really have to read them to understand how awesome they are!0
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i've read the books, and I enjoyed them. And they aren't typical of the genres I like. I also saw the movie at midnight, and it was pretty violent and gory. A few friends have kids in 6th grade, and they are going as a class field trip. While I'm pretty laid back, and don't do much censoring on what my kids see, I'd have issue with this movie, in a school setting, in 6th grade.0
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I've read the trilogy, and my 11-yo daughter has also read it (and is a HUGE fan).
Is it violent? Yes.
Is it brutal? Yes
Does it involve kids in brutal and violent situations? Yes.
But. It is not pointless violence. My daughter and I had a wonderful discussion when she had finished reading the books of the THEME, which is, "What will Katniss choose? Will she choose violence, or will she (in the end) choose peace? And will there come a point where she loses the option to choose, because she waited too long?" Those two choices are represented symbolically in the books (I'm not going to tell you what they're represented *by*, because that would be a spoiler, and anyway, it ought to be obvious when you've read them).
This is a morally and thematically sound and solid series. I would not hesitate to recommend them, even to children (I'm pretty careful about what my 11-you reads).
We're going to try to see the movie tonight :-)0 -
i've read the books, and I enjoyed them. And they aren't typical of the genres I like. I also saw the movie at midnight, and it was pretty violent and gory. A few friends have kids in 6th grade, and they are going as a class field trip. While I'm pretty laid back, and don't do much censoring on what my kids see, I'd have issue with this movie, in a school setting, in 6th grade.
Ugh. Then I am definitely NOT going! You cinched it for me.
There are even some parts of Star Wars where I need to turn away from the screen.0 -
I've heard it compared to a japanese cult classic Battle Royale. Is this true?
I have not read that, but from what I've read online and what others have said, the only difference is Hunger Games is teenagers and BR was adults.
No, Battle Royale is kids too... but the premise is slightly different. It was a Japanese novel and manga first before the film. Great movie, but way more violent than Hunger Games so I wouldn't recommend if anyone is already worried about that side of things.0 -
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This is the part that has me smh. I read the books, I enjoyed reading them. BEST BOOK EVER? No. I've loved other books more. I liked these, and read them quickly, because I liked the writer's style of cutting to the chase. The story was engrossing, and I was interested in/cared about most of the characters. (Kinda got PO'd at Katniss during book 3, but that's beside my point)
But I just do NOT understand how they were able to turn this into a PG-13 movie. There are so many scenes that were WAY too intense for PG-13. I'll try to leave out any spoilers, but the very last part of the battle that occurs right in front of the President's mansion (hint: parachutes), HOW are we going to show that in a movie????? Cannot fathom it. :noway:
That's scene happened in the last book.
There's going to be four films apparently though, so this will come up. I reckon (trying to hard not to give anything away here but don't read on if you haven't read!) they'll maybe play on the fact that certain things are kept from us at this point, as readers. There's things we don't see and only hear about afterwards, as Katniss does... maybe they'll just extend the period of time which we don't see, so visually it won't be as shocking. I could imagine there being a blackout at that moment.0 -
I've heard it compared to a japanese cult classic Battle Royale. Is this true?
I have not read that, but from what I've read online and what others have said, the only difference is Hunger Games is teenagers and BR was adults.
No, Battle Royale is kids too... but the premise is slightly different. It was a Japanese novel and manga first before the film. Great movie, but way more violent than Hunger Games so I wouldn't recommend if anyone is already worried about that side of things.
OK. Thanks. I don't know why I was thinking it was adults. I swear I read that somewhere! lol Either way, I'm not interested in any of it.
I don't know how it's possible, but Hunger Games (as far as I read) managed to horrify and bore me all at the same time.0
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