who started carbs for breakfast?

BrianSharpe

I trust the Mayo Clinic like I trust the FDA or the USDA..............not at all.

The Mayo Clinic touts what the government says they should.............The food pyramid says we should be eating 6-12 servings of grains per day which is outrageously high and the Mayo Clinic is merely backing them up.

and your source of info that proves that 6-12 servings of is "outrageously high" is??????

BrettPGH

People probably thought it made sense because carbs are a food and breakfast is a meal where you eat foods..... I know it sounds crazy. I guess no one ever told them bread was poison and they just had to go on living their lives like everything was ok and not starving.

Thankfully modern society knows better and has people running around screaming about the evils of bread everywhere you look. And society has never been healthier because of it!

there is nothing wrong with whole grains in fact if you do a little research, you will find that the Mayo Clinic, that's right world reknown Mayo says that they are esstential for a healthy diet.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/whole-grains/NU00204

I trust the Mayo Clinic like I trust the FDA or the USDA..............not at all.

The Mayo Clinic touts what the government says they should.............The food pyramid says we should be eating 6-12 servings of grains per day which is outrageously high and the Mayo Clinic is merely backing them up.

I love when we get to this part of the debate. Apparently not only are carbs bad and people don't even realize it, but there's a huge government conspiracy to make sure we all think they're ok. Groups of scientists and high ranking public officials gather in dark rooms to trick everyone into eating foods humanity has been eating for thousands of years...

Is bread not being harmful simply not an option for you zealots?

BaconMD

whos bright idea was it to eat carbs and breads for breakfast? where is the logic? i would take an egg and bacon and a little cheese any day. makes me feel great with no crash!

Wheat is murder! Kill ALL the carbs!

YES!!! WE SHALL KILL THEM WITH OUR TEETH AND DIGESTIVE ENZYMES!!!

digitalsteel

I avoid grains because they are inflamitory. Making them a risk factor for heart disease. I eat saturated and monounsaturated fats because they are anti-inflamitory.

weathergirl320

this was more of a theraputic rant for me. i have celiac and went our to a b-fast place and it sucked i wanted waffles and pancakes and toast but cant. waah. oh well, i think bfast should just be all protein so that i dont miss out lmao!!

Picola1984

I tried 2 days last week just having a protein based brekkie and lunch whilst working.Sstupid move as I felt far more tired during the day

I see white bread as a naughty, and try to get my breakfast carbs from oats/fruit/veg and flax

bcattoes

I avoid grains because they are inflamitory. Making them a risk factor for heart disease. I eat saturated and monounsaturated fats because they are anti-inflamitory.

Don't be silly. Whole grains are not a risk factor for heart disease.

mes1119

balance.

a little carb, fat and protein in every meal with me...

OMGLeigh

If you are really curious about carbs for breakfast take a look at Will Kellogg (a vegetarian) and the practices he put in place at a sanitarium he worked at. He made grains easier to prepare and consume. Once people left their hard working farm jobs for the city, they needed something that wasn't as caloric as eggs and bacon.

mes1119

I avoid grains because they are inflamitory. Making them a risk factor for heart disease. I eat saturated and monounsaturated fats because they are anti-inflamitory.

obesity and lack of exercise is also a risk factor for heart disease.

I'll take my carbs so I can go on a 5 mile run. Limiting would lower energy levels and therefore make it more difficult for me to exercise.

digitalsteel

I avoid grains because they are inflamitory. Making them a risk factor for heart disease. I eat saturated and monounsaturated fats because they are anti-inflamitory.

Don't be silly. Whole grains are not a risk factor for heart disease.

I am not being silly... While whole grains tend to have a better nutrition profile, and fibre which is anti-inflamitory, they are still a risk for most western diseases. That includes heart disease.

ashleylucas21wechanged

I don't understand why people think carbs are the enemy. I eat a giant bowl of oatmeal for breakfast everyday, it gives me enough energy to get through my work day. I'll gladly take some eggs and bacon with my breakfast but it better include some carbs as well.

Before a long workout I always eat some kind of carb too, I feel like it helps me perform better. Think whatever you want about them, but I will NEVER stop eating them.

This.

People who can't have carbs aside............


Carbs give you energy. It's good to eat them in the morning because they burn off slowly and you don't need them as much later in the day when you're less active (unless you live a fairly active lifestyle). This is just one reasoning.

That being said... I still eat what I want in the morning.

_HeathBar_

obesity and lack of exercise is also a risk factor for heart disease.

I'll take my carbs so I can go on a 5 mile run. Limiting would lower energy levels and therefore make it more difficult for me to exercise.

*internet high five*

Thank you.

ashleylucas21wechanged

I'll take my carbs so I can go on a 5 mile run. Limiting would lower energy levels and therefore make it more difficult for me to exercise.

I've found the same. Especially in the mornings. If I've only had, say a protein shake for a quick fix, it doesn't take me as far.

cadaverousbones

Carbs give you energy dont they? So it would make sense to have it in the beginning of the day to give you fuel for the rest of the day. but you should probably not just have carbs, you need protein and fiber and stuff too.. right now i am actually having cracked wheat toast and scrambled eggs with potatoes and mushrooms..nom nom

agentscully514

I trust the Mayo Clinic like I trust the FDA or the USDA..............not at all.

The Mayo Clinic touts what the government says they should.............The food pyramid says we should be eating 6-12 servings of grains per day which is outrageously high and the Mayo Clinic is merely backing them up.

I love when we get to this part of the debate. Apparently not only are carbs bad and people don't even realize it, but there's a huge government conspiracy to make sure we all think they're ok. Groups of scientists and high ranking public officials gather in dark rooms to trick everyone into eating foods humanity has been eating for thousands of years...

Is bread not being harmful simply not an option for you zealots?

Note: I am NOT a conspiracy theorist in any way, but I am a realist. A number of years ago I did a consulting project for the USDA, and I learned that they aren't an impartial bunch of regulators. They also promote sales of US agricultural products, and they work closely with the producers. In addition to that, the agricultural lobby is HUGE and *very* rich, and they really really want USDA to recommend that people eat a lot of dairy and grains.

So no, I do not trust dietary recommendations from USDA, at all.

BrianSharpe

I am not being silly... While whole grains tend to have a better nutrition profile, and fibre which is anti-inflamitory, they are still a risk for most western diseases. That includes heart disease.

Source please????

digitalsteel

http://www.peertrainer.com/should_you_remove_gluten_from_your_diet.aspx

digitalsteel

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/#axzz1pgYH2dB4

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-grains/#axzz1pgYR1K9o

digitalsteel

http://www.peertrainer.com/should_you_remove_gluten_from_your_diet.aspx

Honestly, that was one of the worst things i've read in a while and I just finished Zoe Harcombe's book so that makes that article pretty bad

QFT

billtonkin

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/#axzz1pgYH2dB4

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-grains/#axzz1pgYR1K9o

I prefer http://www.marksdailysnapple.com myself.

BrianSharpe

http://www.peertrainer.com/should_you_remove_gluten_from_your_diet.aspx

Clinical trials? Research ?? The assertion that our ancestors did not eat grains is questionable at best, it would be reasonable to believe that our ancestors would not have eaten anything approaching a homogeneous diet. Those living in areas where grains grew wild would, no doubt, have observed animals eating the wild grasses and seeds and logic would dictate that a hunter gatherer society would eat whatever is readily available.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/#axzz1pgYH2dB4

I guess it would be too much to expect citations to support assertions.

Sorry, no sale.

Justforthebacon

People should stick with what works for them.

I for one will take the FAT and PROTEIN please since they are the two nutritious macro nutrients (carbs just provide energy and we can get that from fat – eaten or stored). When I eat carbs they come in the form of veggies as much as possible. I skip fruit and grains. Empty calories and not very good sources of vitamins (exception being C). Meat meat and more meat pls!

Acg67

People should stick with what works for them.

I for one will take the FAT and PROTEIN please since they are the two nutritious macro nutrients (carbs just provide energy and we can get that from fat – eaten or stored). When I eat carbs they come in the form of veggies as much as possible. I skip fruit and grains. Empty calories and not very good sources of vitamins (exception being C). Meat meat and more meat pls!

That sounds very much like a book I just read. The statement on fruits in particular.

digitalsteel

http://www.peertrainer.com/should_you_remove_gluten_from_your_diet.aspx

Clinical trials? Research ?? The assertion that our ancestors did not eat grains is questionable at best, it would be reasonable to believe that our ancestors would not have eaten anything approaching a homogeneous diet. Those living in areas where grains grew wild would, no doubt, have observed animals eating the wild grasses and seeds and logic would dictate that a hunter gatherer society would eat whatever is readily available.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/#axzz1pgYH2dB4

I guess it would be too much to expect citations to support assertions.

Sorry, no sale.

Perhaps video would be better for you? http://perfecthumandiet.us/

BrettPGH

Note: I am NOT a conspiracy theorist in any way, but I am a realist. A number of years ago I did a consulting project for the USDA, and I learned that they aren't an impartial bunch of regulators. They also promote sales of US agricultural products, and they work closely with the producers. In addition to that, the agricultural lobby is HUGE and *very* rich, and they really really want USDA to recommend that people eat a lot of dairy and grains.

So no, I do not trust dietary recommendations from USDA, at all.

Every conspiracy theorist I've ever heard from (and believe me, I've heard from A LOT) also considers themselves to be a realist. Like you they then go on to assert they're right with anecdotal, unverifiable evidence. Oddly enough it seems they too always "work somewhere" or "know a guy" who gave them the real truth the rest of us are just too common to get. They tell you to use your head, ignore large government agencies who have represented the public health and well being for decades, and trust them, complete strangers on the internet.

So no. Until I get solid evidence otherwise I will trust the United States Department of Agriculture over the story I read from agentscully51.

gsager

whos bright idea was it to eat carbs and breads for breakfast? where is the logic? i would take an egg and bacon and a little cheese any day. makes me feel great with no crash!

I think its called, balance.

Justforthebacon

I am following keto. It works for me. I haven't read Zoe Harcombe's book yet. I don't need to read her book to know the statement is true.

edit: plus I eat plenty of processed meat so I don't think I could follow her diet. I eat bacon daily. Hence my name.

digitalsteel

I find this evidence fairly interesting. http://www.gnolls.org/1086/the-lipid-hypothesis-has-officially-failed-part-1-of-many/

You may also want to check out some of the articals here if you want more in depth details http://www.gnolls.org/

tameko2

What the hell is breakfast? I don't eat it. I mean I do, but I eat it for lunch and I assume that's not what you mean.

(seriously - the person who first thought "I guess I will have carbs for breakfast" was you know, everyone in the course of human civilization who did not HAVE any other food readily available besides a store of grains? Which is more or less all of human existance? Just like the person who woke up and thought "I will have protein and fat for breakfast!" is every hunter ever who only had dried meat because thats what they'd learned to store?)